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Reflections on International Law Weekend 2025: An International Law Chats x Just Security Podcast Crossover Episode Nov 03, 2025

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International law professors Chiara Giorgetti, Milena Sterio, and Rebecca Hamilton join Just Security’s Managing Editor, Megan Corrarino, to discuss takeaways from the American Branch of the International Law Association (ABILA)’s Oct. 23-25 International Law Weekend.

In this special episode co-produced with ABILA’s International Law Chats podcast, which Giorgetti and Sterio co-host along with Alison Macdonald KC, the guests — each of whom also participated in International Law Weekend — discuss the weekend’s theme, “Crisis as Catalyst on International Law”; takeaways from panels on topics ranging from the proposed Crimes against Humanity Treaty to international environmental law and more; and how international lawyers and law students might think about their role in the present moment.

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International Law Chats - an ABILA podcast
Crisis as Catalyst in International Law by Michael P. Scharf (October 16, 2025)
Crisis as Catalyst: Past, Present, and Future of International Law by William J. Aceves, Amity Boye and Jessica Peake (October 21, 2025)
A Series on the Occasion of ABILA’s International Law Weekend 2025

Murder on the High Seas Part III Oct 21, 2025

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Since early September, President Donald Trump has ordered a series of U.S. military strikes on vessels in the Caribbean Sea the administration claims are linked to drug trafficking groups, leaving 32 people dead. One recent strike left two survivors, briefly detained by the U.S. military, and now reportedly repatriated to Colombia and Ecuador. The latest strike was reported by the Trump administration to have targeted suspected drug traffickers affiliated with a Colombian rebel group. The White House continues to defend the killings as part of a so-called war on “narco-terrorists,” while legal experts have resoundingly rejected the administration’s claims to wartime authorities.

Tess Bridgeman is joined by Rebecca Ingber and Brian Finucane to assess the latest strikes, the brief detention of two survivors, where the campaign may be headed, and what it signals for executive power, accountability, and oversight moving forward.

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Tess Bridgeman, Brian Finucane, Rebecca Ingber, The Just Security Podcast: Murder on the High Seas Part II What We Know About the U.S. Vessel Strikes One Month In (October 7, 2025, also available on YouTube)
Tess Bridgeman, Brian Finucane, Rebecca Ingber, The Just Security Podcast: Murder on the High Seas? What You Need to Know about the U.S. Strike on the Caribbean Vessel (September 9, 2025, also available on YouTube)
Collection: U.S. Lethal Strikes on Suspected Drug Traffickers (Just Security)
War Powers Resolution Reporting Project (Reiss Center for Law and Security)

Murder on the High Seas Part II: What We Know about U.S. Vessel Strikes One Month In Oct 07, 2025

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Since early September, President Trump has ordered the U.S. military to conduct multiple lethal strikes on boats in the Caribbean Sea suspected of drug trafficking, resulting in at least 21 deaths.
What do we actually know about the people killed and the vessels targeted? What legal justification is the administration putting forward for the killings— and is it viable? Is there anything to stop the President from making further “terrorist” designations, of citizens or non-citizens, and ordering the military to kill those he designates, including within the United States? What checks exist — from Congress, courts, or within the executive branch itself — on the president’s claimed authority to order killings in these circumstances?
On this episode of the Just Security Podcast, cross-hosted with the Reiss Center on Law and Security, host Tess Bridgeman and co-host Rachel Goldbrenner are joined by experts Rebecca Ingber and Brian Finucane to analyze the facts, the law, and the broader implications of this military campaign in the Caribbean.

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This is a joint podcast of Just Security and NYU Law School’s Reiss Center on Law and Security.

Executive branch reporting on the vessel strikes, on Tren de Aragua, and related resources:

48-Hour Report pursuant to the War Powers Resolution (September 4, 2025) (Note: For a living resource containing this and all other publicly available reports submitted pursuant to the War Powers Resolution since its enactment in 1973, see NYU Law’s Reiss Center on Law and Security’s War Powers Resolution Reporting Project)
Notice to Congress Under 50 U.S.C. §1543a (Section 1230 of the FY 2024 National Defense Authorization Act) (undated, made public October 2, 2025)
National Intelligence Council, Venezuela: Examining Regime Ties to Tren de Aragua (April 7, 2025)

Listeners may also be interested in Just Security‘s Collection: U.S. Lethal Strikes on Suspected Drug Traffickers (updated, Oct. 3, 2025), including:

Mary B. McCord and Tess Bridgeman, What the Senate Judiciary Committee Should Ask A.G. Bondi on Drug Cartel Strikes (Oct. 3, 2025)
Marty Lederman, Legal Flaws in the Trump Administration’s Notice to Congress on “Armed Conflict” with Drug Cartels (Oct. 3, 2025)
Daniel Maurer, US Servicemembers’ Exposure to Criminal Liability for Lethal Strikes on Narcoterrorists (September 24, 2025)
Ben Saul, The United States’ Dirty War on “Narco Terrorism” (September 22, 2025)
Annie Shiel, John Ramming Chappell, Priyanka Motaparthy, Wells Dixon and Daphne Eviatar, Murder by Drone: The Legal and Moral Stakes of the Caribbean Strikes (September 17, 2025)
Brian Finucane, Asserting a License to Kill: Why the Caribbean Strike is a Dangerous Departure from the “War on Terror (September 15, 2025)
Marty Lederman,

Misogyny’s Role in Violent Extremism Sep 18, 2025

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Leading scholar on domestic violent extremism and prevention strategies, Cynthia Miller-Idriss, joins Just Security Senior Fellow Tom Joscelyn to discuss her new book, Man Up: The New Misogyny and the Rise of Violent Extremism. They explore the intersection of gender, radicalization, and violence.

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Man Up: The New Misogyny and the Rise of Violent Extremism (Princeton University Press) by Cynthia Miller-Idriss
Just Security’s Domestic Violent Extremism archive

What Just Happened: CISA and the Fate of U.S. Cybersecurity Sep 16, 2025

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The Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA) of 2015 is set to expire at the end of this month on September 30, 2025. The Act removes barriers to companies sharing information about cyber threats, addressing privacy concerns and requires the federal government to share threat information. Many consider CISA one of the foundations of U.S. cybersecurity efforts.

As Congress considers whether or not to reauthorize CISA, former Deputy Assistant Director of the FBI cyber division, Cynthia Kaiser, joins David Aaron to discuss the importance of the legislation and highlight the risks of failing to reauthorize it.

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“The Next Cyber Breach Will Not Wait: Why Congress Must Reauthorize CISA 2015” by Simin Kargar for Just Security
Just Security’s CISA coverage
Just Security's Cybersecurity coverage

Sen. Elissa Slotkin on a New Vision for American National Security Sep 11, 2025

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Last week, Senator Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) unveiled a new “national security war plan,” centered on reviving the middle class, winning the global tech race, and rethinking how Americans are protected in an era of shifting threats and changing geopolitical realities.

Senator Slotkin joins Just Security’s editors-in-chief Ryan Goodman and Tess Bridgeman to discuss the relationship between economic security and national security, the tools Congress should use to defend against threats to our democracy, the role for congressional oversight in domestic use of the military and in the recent military attack on a suspected drug smuggling vessel in the Caribbean, how the United States should engage with China in an era of increasing competition and cooperation, and a range of other national security and foreign policy priorities.

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Senator Elissa Slotkin’s launch of her new vision for American national security and foreign policy at the Council on Foreign Relations.
Just Security’s AI and Emerging Technology Archive
Just Security’s Congress Archive

Murder on the High Seas? What You Need to Know about the U.S. Strike on the Caribbean Vessel Sep 09, 2025

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Last week, the United States carried out an unprecedented strike against a vessel suspected of narcotics trafficking in the Caribbean, destroying the vessel and reportedly killing 11 people on board. This action raises highly concerning questions about the process followed within the U.S. government: how and by whom was the strike authorized? Why was it carried out by U.S. armed forces? And what kind of accountability or pushback might we see from Congress, in courts, or within the government itself?

Rebecca Ingber and Brian Finucane join Tess Bridgeman to unpack the attack, the limited justifications the administration has put forward to date, and what to expect from here.

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Legal Issues Raised by Lethal U.S. Military Attack in the Caribbean by Brian Finucane
Labels, Not Law, to Justify Lethal Force: Venezuela Boat Strike by Mark Nevitt

What Just Happened: John Bolton Search Warrants Aug 26, 2025

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David Aaron is joined by Mary McCord and Zachary Myers to discuss last week’s search of the office and residence of former National Security Advisor John Bolton. The experts unpack what the execution of these warrants means, and what we should expect next in this unfolding investigation.

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Letter from Adm. Michael S. Rogers, Director, NSA submitted in United States v. Pho, 1:17-cr-00631 (GLR), ECF 20-1 (Sept. 18, 2018)
Willfulness and the Harm of Unlawful Retention of National Security Information by David Aaron (Dec. 2, 2022)
“Secret Evidence in Public Trials” by David Aaron (June 6, 2023)
Just Security Podcast: Insiders’ Views of Espionage Act Trials (July 17, 2023)
Just Security’s coverage of John Bolton

What Just Happened: Federalization of DC Law Enforcement, Legal Authorities and Updates Aug 20, 2025

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The Trump administration’s unprecedented federalization of policing in Washington, D.C. raises significant legal and policy questions about the Executive Branch’s power over the Metropolitan Police Department and the use of National Guard forces from D.C. and other states, among other pressing topics. To break down the latest developments, host David Aaron is joined by Brian Netter, Legal Director at Democracy Forward and former Deputy Assistant Attorney General at the Department of Justice, and Mark Nevitt, associate professor of law at Emory University and former Distinguished Military Professor at the U.S. Naval Academy and a member of the Just Security editorial board.

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“Trump, the National Guard, and the District of Columbia” by Mark Nevitt
“One Week of Trump’s DC Takeover Attempt: An analysis of the president’s use of military, police, and security services in the nation’s capital” by Joseph Nunn and Spencer Reynolds
“How to Truly Keep Washington, DC Safe: President Trump’s militarized approach undercuts what’s been working” by Donell Harvin

Just Security Podcast: What Just Happened - Federalization of Law Enforcement in Washington DC with David Aaron, Carrie Cordero, and Donell Harvin

What Just Happened: Federalization of Law Enforcement in Washington DC Aug 14, 2025

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This week, the Trump administration took over command of the D.C. police department, and surged federal law enforcement officers and National Guard units into the city. While the United States has a long tradition of leaving most policing to state and local agencies, federal law enforcement has specific powers, and there are well-established limits on the use of military forces for domestic law enforcement, but the rules for DC are particular.

In this episode, host David Aaron is joined by Carrie Cordero, General Counsel at the Center for a New American Security and former Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for National Security and Senior Associate General Counsel at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and Donell Harvin, Visiting Fellow at the National Security Institute at George Mason University and former Chief of Homeland Security and Intelligence for the District of Columbia. Together, they unpack significant legal and policy considerations concerning the Executive Branch’s recent actions and the open questions still in play.

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Center for a New American Security, The 21st Century National Guard: Expanding Missions, Modernizing Authorities
Just Security’s Federalization of DC Policing, Law Enforcement and National Security Archives

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