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269. The Biology of Good and Evil | Frans de Waal Jul 11, 2022

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Frans de Waal is an acclaimed Dutch primatologist and ethologist. He's written and published numerous books, including 'Chimpanzee Cultures,' 'Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are?', 'Mam's Last Hug,' and his most recent book, 'Different: Gender Through the Eyes of a Primatologist.'

In this episode, Frans de Waal and I discuss a number of things, including the instinct for reciprocal cooperation, the characteristics of sex and gender, the necessity of play, reconciliation, how we mismeasure animals, and much more. Thanks for watching.

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—Chapters—

[0:00] Intro

[6:44] A Background in Ethology

[9:46] The Social Organization of Chimpanzees

[12:11] Supporters Make Chimps Dominant

[15:56] An Instinct for Reciprocal Cooperation

[17:37] Female Choice in Sexual Selection

[22:45] Biology's Victorian Beginnings

[24:37] Bonobo's Collective Dominance

[27:42] Characteristics of Sex and Gender

[31:02] Preferences in Types of Play

[33:26] The Origin of Antisocial Behavior

[35:43] The Necessity of Play

[37:13] How Play Teaches Self Control

[41:01] Self Socialization

[46:18] Interference in Boys' Development

[51:34] The Behavior of Reconciliation

[57:29] Differences in Male and Female Aggression

[59:35] Peace Making vs. Peace Keeping

[1:01:59] The Conundrum of Compassion

[1:03:11] Competitiveness In Males and Females

[1:06:20] Disliking the Facts of Sex Differences

[1:11:36] How We Mismeasure Animals

[1:21:24] Anthropomorphizing Animals

[1:23:26] Consciousness in Animals

[1:27:15] Sentience

[1:31:16] Self Consciousness and Embellishment

[1:35:50] Unconscious Olfaction

[1:38:53] Problems with Virtualizing the World

[1:40:41] Frans de Waal's Intellectual Heroes

[1:42:20] Closing Comments

#fransdewaal #reciprocity #primatology #jordanpeterson #animalbehavior #dominance

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268. Live Not By Lies | Rod Dreher Jul 07, 2022

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Rod Dreher is a senior writer and editor for 'The American Conservative.' He is the author of three New York Times bestsellers: 'Live Not By Lies,' 'The Benedict Option,' and 'The Little Way of Ruthie Leming,' as well as the books 'Crunchy Cons' and 'How Dante Can Save Your Life.'

In this episode, Rod Dreher and I discuss his latest book, 'Live Not By Lies,' the continuous emergence of Communism in the West, ideology as a substitute for religion, the importance of courage, and more. Thanks for watching.

—Links—

Follow Rod Dreher on Twitter: https://twitter.com/roddreher

Read Rod Dreher's articles: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/author/rod-dreher/

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https://www.amazon.com/Rod-Dreher/e/B00JV2IX3O%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share.

—Chapters—[0:00] Intro

[1:25] Live Not By Lies

[2:32] A Story from Communist Czechoslovakia

[4:55] Our Old Idea of New Totalitarianism

[9:13] Czeslaw Miłosz and "The Captive Mind"

[12:26] The Appeal of Communism

[14:50] The Weaponizing of Original Sin

[18:36] Applying the Story of the Kulaks

[22:43] The Emergence of Woke Capitalism

[27:37] The Line Between Good and Evil

[29:48] Solzhenitsyn's Rules for Responsible Conduct

[31:31] Scapegoating and False Morality

[37:28] The Fragility of American Elites

[42:06] Vaclav Havel, The Myth of the Green Grocer

[48:34] Fighting for the Right to Be Unhappy

[56:37] Ideology as Substitute for Religion

[1:00:56] Heroism as Anti-Ideology

[1:09:52] Preparing for Persecution

[1:12:33] A Message from the Church to Men

[1:13:39] Courage

[1:18:04] Rod Dreher, "Live Not By Lies"

[1:20:07] Jordan Peterson's Daily Wire+ Deal

[1:21:15] Daily Wire+ Intro

[1:21:54] History of Rod Dreher's Religious Belief

[1:27:08] Sexuality as the Last Temptation

[1:32:45] Kierkegaard's Three Stages of Life

[1:34:45] Journey Through Catholicism

[1:36:36] Becoming an Orthodox Christian

[1:45:00] A Respite from the Political

[1:48:11] The Purpose of Prayer

[1:50:23] The Jesus Prayer

[1:54:36] Closing Comments

#roddreher #livenotbylies #aleksandrsolzhenitsyn #jordanpeterson #communism #christianity

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267. Trudeau vs. Canada | Rex Murphy Jul 04, 2022

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Rex Murphy is a Canadian commentator and author, primarily on Canadian political and social matters. He was the regular host of CBC Radio One's Cross Country Checkup, a nation wide call-in show, for 21 years, before stepping down in September of 2015. He currently writes for The National Post, where his articles are published weekly.In this episode, Rex Murphy and I discuss the strange times in current Canadian politics, the perpetual scandals of Justin Trudeau, media censorship and the appalling Bill C-11, fascism on the Left, Zoom parliament, and much more. Thanks for watching.—Chapters—[0:00] Intro[3:24] Trudeau's Irresponsible Roe v. Wade Comments[9:21] Strange Political Times in Canada[10:33] Zoom Parliament[14:19] Talking Across the Aisle In Person[16:50] Fascism on the Left[22:41] Bill C-11: "The Online Streaming Act"[35:35] Trudeau's Perpetual Scandals[42:50] Interference with the RCMP[46:04] Trudeau's Overweening Narcissism[50:20] An Appetite on Display[58:38] Trudeau's Unprecedented Spending[1:03:25] Killing Alberta Oil[1:04:25] Dependance on Russian Oil[1:06:03] How the Green Movement Empowered Putin[1:10:33] A Panoply of Utopian Nonsense—Again[1:15:03] Communism in Eastern Europe[1:15:45] Communist Parallels in the Progressive Movement[1:20:34] "The Great Reset" and Trudeau[1:21:21] Who the Hell is Klaus Schwab[1:26:00] Closing Comments—Links—Follow Rex Murphy on Twitter: https://twitter.com/rexmurphy1Follow the RexTV Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Ri...Read Rex Murphy's articles at The National Post: https://nationalpost.com/author/rmurphynp/Read Rex Murphy's book, 'Canada and Other Matters of Opinion': https://amazon.com/gp/product/B0031TZ...// SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL //Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/jordanbpeterson.co... Donations: https://jordanbpeterson.com/donate // COURSES //Discovering Personality: https://jordanbpeterson.com/personality Self Authoring Suite: https://selfauthoring.com Understand Myself (personality test): https://understandmyself.com // BOOKS //Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life: https://jordanbpeterson.com/Beyond-Order 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: https://jordanbpeterson.com/12-rules-... Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief: https://jordanbpeterson.com/maps-of-m... // LINKS //Website: https://jordanbpeterson.com Events: https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Blog: https://jordanbpeterson.com/blog Podcast: https://jordanbpeterson.com/podcast // SOCIAL //Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson Instagram: https://instagram.com/jordan.b.peterson Facebook: https://facebook.com/drjordanpeterson Telegram: https://t.me/DrJordanPeterson All socials: https://linktr.ee/drjordanbpeterson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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266. Gay Parenting: Promise and Pitfalls | Dave Rubin Jun 30, 2022

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In this episode, Dave Rubin and I discuss the evolution of his lifestyle, the recent Leftist push of transgender ideology and the uncharted territory of gay fatherhood.

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265. Meritocracy or Else | Dr. Adrian Wooldridge Jun 27, 2022

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Dr. Adrian Wooldridge is a political editor at The Economist and author of the new book ‘The Aristocracy of Talent: How Meritocracy Made the Modern World.’

In this episode, Dr. Wooldridge and I discuss how his new book has been received, the history of meritocracy, how IQ testing shaped educational policy, group-based judgement, and the importance of defending liberal individualism.

—Links—

Follow Dr. Wooldridge on Twitter: https://twitter.com/adwooldridge

‘The Aristocracy of Talent: How Meritocracy Made the Modern World:’ https://amazon.com/Aristocracy-Talent...

More books by Dr. Wooldridge: https://amazon.com/kindle-dbs/entity/...

—Chapters—

[0:00] Intro

[1:06] Reviews of ‘The Aristocracy of Talent’

[3:47] Measuring the Mind, History of IQ Testing, & British Education

[7:22] 11+ System vs. the Modern Prolonged Educational System

[10:22] Workplace Selection Tests

[11:58] IQ Literature & IQ Testing for the US Military

[14:55] Michael Young’s ‘The Rise of the Meritocracy’

[16:58] Pareto Distribution, Matthew Principle, & Creative Achievement Tests

[18:22] History of Meritocracy

[22:43] Conflating Moral Worth with Intellectual Ability

[24:25] Conceptual Inadequacy & “Bell Curve Liberals”

[29:45] Blank Slate Argument & Ethnic Differences in IQ Testing

[34:59] White Working Class in England

[37:45] Perception of Meritocracy in the UK vs. US

[42:21] Judging People as Group Members

[48:17] Distinction Between Affirmative Action & Diversity

[51:36] Idea of Meritocracy as Propaganda for the Elite

[54:00] Openness of Competition of Examinations

[56:10] Foucault & the Complexity of Perception

[59:55] Social Justice, Economic Efficiency & Growth Rates

[1:05:35] Challenges to Western Dominance

[1:10:59] European Ladder of Opportunity & Plutocracy

[1:14:32] Ethics: Levels of Analysis

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264. Beyond Order: Rule 2 - Imagine Who You Could Be, and Then Aim Single-Mindedly at That. Jun 23, 2022

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In this episode of the Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, we continue our dive into Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life. This compilation episode is focused on Rule 2: "Imagine who you could be, and then aim single-mindedly at that." It includes interviews with Dave Rubin, Tom Bilyeu, Chris Williamson, and more.

Videos Included:

00:00 - Rule 2 Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life -

02:27 - Rubin Report: An Emotional Return & 12 More Rules for Life

12:47 - Aubrey Marcus: Jordan Petersons' EMPOWERING MESSAGE to Take Responsibility For Your Life

33:13 - Impact Theory: Jordan Peterson on Constructing Your Identity, Chaos and Order, and the Escalating Culture Wars

41:38 - Modern Wisdom: Jordan Peterson - Take Control Of Your Life

47:28 - Beyond Order The Illustrator - Juliette Fogra on JBP

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263. An Interview with my Father | Walter Peterson Jun 20, 2022

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This past Sunday was Father’s Day. In this episode, I discuss my family history, relationships, growing up, learning to read and write, raising children, and marriage with my father Walter Peterson.

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—Chapters—

[0:00] Intro

[1:00] The story of the 3rd floor

[3:32] Family settling in Saskatchewan

[8:57] Breaking 10 acres

[10:42] Jordan’s grandfather

[12:00] Walter's school caboose

[12:57] His childhood

[18:38] Growing up on a farm

[23:14] Wood-gathering & feeding workers

[25:04] Typical clothing

[26:48] Was it a happy childhood?

[27:45] Farm chores

[29:20] Walter’s grandfather

[36:18] His grandmother & learning to read

[42:19] Joe Rogan & touring

[44:13] Spending time with grandpa

[44:52] Walter's dad

[45:55] Moving out

[49:02] Raising kids now vs. then

[55:12] Walter’s mom

[57:40] His sisters

[58:41] His old friends

[1:00:24] Walter's reading, writing, & going to school

[1:03:00] Jordan skipping school

[1:05:21] Jordan's great grandfather's band & the guitar he made Jordan

[1:07:14] Walter meets his wife

[1:12:30] Deciding to be a teacher

[1:15:10] Marrying age & ceremony

[1:16:57] Why family matters & Walter’s best years

[1:18:27] Walter on Jordan's childhood

[1:19:48] Jordan's early memories of reading with his Father

[1:24:08] The most challenging part of marriages

[1:26:06] Jordan's mom

[1:26:35] Personality & Jordan's parents

[1:28:18] Current restrictions

[01:29:07] Walter's best relationships

#FathersDay #Personality #Childhood #Canada #Family

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262. Beyond Order: Montreal Lecture | Jonathan Pageau Jun 16, 2022

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We had the honor of having our dear friend Jonathan Pageau host this Beyond Order lecture in Montreal on May 23rd, 2022. Jonathan opens the show by describing how he first heard (and subsequently met) Jordan. This event, then, serves as a continuation of the conversations they first had. Throughout this hour-and-a-half-long event, Dr. Peterson and Jonathan Pageau discuss perception, symbolism, values, and the relationship between perception and the cognitive scientist’s attempts to understand consciousness.

—Links—

Check out Jonathan Pageau’s YouTube channel:

https://youtube.com/channel/UCtCTSf3UwRU14nYWr_xm-dQ

Websites:

https://thesymbolicworld.com (speaking)

https://pageaucarvings.com (carving)

https://orthodoxartsjournal.org (writing)

—Chapters—

0:00 — Intro

4:55 — Dr. Peterson enters the stage

8:00 — Perception, Cognitive Science, and the problem of bodyless AI

11:30 — The visual cliff experiment & perceiving the world

18:30 — The awe of infinity & complexity of the Heavens

21:00 — Awe, imitation, & why humans celebrate

28:00 — The role of sacrifice & delaying gratification

32:00 — Egyptian gods & ancient symbolism

36:00 — Pyramids vs. mountains in The Bible

44:00 — The cost of not aiming properly

52:30 — Bottom-up vs. top-down conceptualizations of the world

57:00 — Sam Harris

1:05:00 — Why the Diversity, Inclusivity, and Equity types are taking on STEM

1:10:00 — Is it possible to create values from scratch? Nietzsche, Freud, & Jung

1:16:00 — Why go to church?

1:22:00 — Q&A

#Perception #BeyondOrder #JonathanPageau #Symbolism #Values #SamHarris

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261. Avoiding School Shootings and the Boy Crisis | Dr. Warren Farrell Jun 13, 2022

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Dr. Warren Farrell is a political scientist, activist, speaker, and author of The Boy Crisis. He has been interviewed by Oprah, Barbara Walters, Tucker Carlson, Peter Jennings, and many others. Dr. Farrell conducts communication workshops, and his writings have been frequently featured in The New York Times.

In this episode, Dr. Farrell and I discuss issues that lead to mass homicides committed by young men. We also talk about child-rearing and boundary enforcement, discriminating between male competence and male power compulsion, and the importance of recognizing and rewarding a father’s contributions to their children’s development. Dr. Farrell and I also share a personal message to anyone who may be harboring vengeful fantasies.

—Links—

The Boys Crisis - https://warrenfarrell.com/product/the-boy-crisis/

Follow Dr. Farrell on Twitter: https://twitter.com/drwarrenfarrell

Website: https://warrenfarrell.com

Couples’ communication course: https://warrenfarrell.com/couples-communication/

More books by Dr. Farrell: https://amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3AWarren+Farrell+Ph.D.&s=relevancerank&language=es&text=Warren+Farrell+Ph.D.&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1

—Chapters—

[0:00] Intro

[2:51] The Boy Crisis & Mass Shootings

[8:57] A Lack of Father Figures

[9:29] Differences Between Mothers, Fathers, & Boundary Enforcement

[13:42] Why Family Dinners Matter

[15:43] Frans de Waal, Chimp Behavior, & the Human Moral Ethos

[18:45] Why Involved Fathers Matter

[22:59] Psychology of School Shooters

[25:41] Dr. Farrell’s Similarities with the Uvalde Shooter

[33:25] Effects of ‘Toxic Masculinity’ & ‘Male Privilege’ on Young Men

[37:03] Male Competence vs. Male Power Compulsion

[42:15] Saying ‘No’ & Expecting Girls to Share Rejection-Risks

[44:49] Crumb & Psychopathological Fantasies

[47:00] Conflicting Emotions & Motivations

[49:22] “A Billion Wicked Thoughts”

[53:58] “When only one sex wins, both lose”

[54:12] On Feminism

[57:36] Empathy, Facades, & Male Vulnerability

[1:03:51] Why Play Matters

[1:12:33] Teasing, Bullying, & Resilience

[1:17:32] Rewarding Dads

[1:20:36] Appreciation Training

[1:24:07] Character Development

[1:29:07] Status, Negotiation, & Reconciliation

[1:33:34] Opponent Processing & Handling Criticism

[1:43:46] Words for Anyone Harboring Vengeful Fantasies

[1:46:51] Setting Families Up for Success

#Masculinity #MassShootings #Communication #Men #Uvalde

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260. Beyond Order: Rule 1 - Do Not Carelessly Denigrate Social Institutions or Creative Achievement Jun 09, 2022

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This compilation showcases clips surrounding Rule 1 from Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life: “Do not carelessly denigrate social institutions or creative achievement.” These conversations feature the likes of Steven Pinker, Theo Von, Jonathan Haidt, Ben Shapiro, and more. We hope you enjoy part 2/14 of this compilation series!

—Chapters—

[0:00] Rule 1: Beyond Order

[2:46] The Rubin Report: An Emotional Return

[9:09] Juliette Fogra, Illustrator

[16:51] Identity Building, Chaos, & Impact Theory

[19:04] Ben Shapiro’s Sunday Special

[23:29] This Past Weekend with Theo Von

[38:30] The Tim Ferriss Show: Psychedelics & The Bible

[42:32] Andrew Doyle Speaks Out

[49:12] Steven Pinker & Jonathan Haidt On the Enlightenment

[54:08] How to Start the Most Controversial Magazine on the Planet

[01:03:58] Cambridge Q&A