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319. Detransition: The Wounds that Won't Heal | Chloe Cole Jan 03, 2023

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Dr Jordan B Peterson sits down with 18 year old de-transitioner Chloe Cole. Chloe was indoctrinated, affirmed, and set on an irreparable path at the age of 15, and now finds herself abandoned by the community and the doctors that lead her over the edge.

Chloe Cole is an 18 year old de-transitioner from The Central Valley of California. She started her transition at 12 years old, puberty blockers and testosterone at 13 and a double mastectomy at 15 years old. She is now a strong advocate against gender ideology.

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(0:00) Coming Up

(1:00) Chloe's story, the beginning

(1:57) Early puberty, negative emotion across gender

(7:24) On the spectrum, the tomboy

(9:00) Puberty, expectations and the shock of reality

(10:35) Manifestations of negative emotion

(14:30) Gender dysphoria, key traits

(16:30) Ken Sucker, leaving kids alone

(18:00) Homosexual attraction

(21:30) Mentality, creativity, early interests

(25:00) Image orientation, social media

(27:00) Feminist ideology, the dread of womanhood

(30:00) Negative emotion levels, societal hierarchies

(32:50) Burying maternal instinct, the non-binary wave

(35:10) Lacking community, the draw of LGBT+

(38:48) Alternative pathways, therapy and deception

(42:00) How therapy is supposed to work, the three questions

(47:30) So-called therapy, affirming care

(51:00) Flat out lies, “less than 3 percent regret rates”

(53:00) Parents coerced

(55:05) Speedy approvals for affirming procedures

(57:08) Mentality through transition, 8th grade

(1:00:00) Radical change over practical steps

(1:03:50) Fractured sense of self, sexualization

(1:06:00) Autogynephilia, fact of the fantasy

(1:10:15) Androgens, testosterone, porn addiction

(1:12:00) Complete disorientation, online dating

(1:14:00) Effects over time, mental and physical effects

(1:15:25) 15 years old, sexual assault, re-affirming

(1:19:45) Chest binders, further steps towards the edge

(1:21:00) Double mastectomy, “part of the process”

(1:24:25) Suicide, medication and intense depression

(1:27:00) Flocking toward surgery, pushed across age groups

(1:28:50) Breast deformity, justification and denial

(1:30:00) Sexualization by doctors

(1:33:00) Removal of stitches, aftermath and horror

(1:35:00) Regrowing nerve endings, mismatched feeling

(1:36:10) Return of feminine characteristics

(1:39:00) Tiffany fields, crucial contact

(1:40:35) Regret, shame, the illusion breaks

(1:44:00) 16, desire for motherhood

(1:46:00) Play, chimpanzees and comparable gender affiliation

(1:49:00) De-transitioning, lack of guidance

(1:51:45) Hypocrisy in patient-led treatment

(1:52:30) When the community turns on you

(1:54:40) Core of Chloe's claim, malpractice and negligence

(1:57:30) Lasting complications

(2:00:00) The legal front, upcoming battle

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318. Autism, Academics, and Animals | Dr. Temple Grandin Dec 29, 2022

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Dr Jordan B Peterson and Temple Grandin discuss the pros and cons of visual and verbal thinking, as well as categorization, animal welfare, targeted activism, and the importance of hands-on learning opportunities.

Temple Grandin is a Professor of Animal Science at Colorado State University. Facilities she has designed for handling livestock are used by companies all around the world. Her work has also been instrumental in implementing animal welfare auditing programs, now used by McDonalds, Wendy’s, Whole Foods, and many other major corporations. Temple has appeared on numerous shows across platforms, such as 20/20, Larry King Live, and Prime Time. Grandin is an accomplished author, with books such as Thinking in Pictures, Livestock Handling and Transport, and The Autistic Brain. A few of her other publications, Animals in Translation, as well as Visual Thinking, have even made it to the New York Times Bestseller List. In 2017, Grandin was inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame, and in 2022 she was honored once again as a Colorado State Distinguished Professor.

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(1:00) Intro

(3:00) Visual thinking and categorization

(6:32) Thinking in words, comparative invention

(8:50) Associative thinking, dreams

(12:00) Thought process

(13:00) Autism, things out of place

(16:40) Skill loss, screened out

(20:00) Two types of visual thinking

(24:50) Skillsets geared toward visual thinkers

(26:00) Grandin demonstrates associative thinking

(28:15) Dreams and association webs

(30:50) Cohen, shop taken out of schools

(33:45) Virtualization, exposure learning

(36:30) Removed from the practical

(38:00) Citations, proof

(41:30) Recommendations for visual thinkers

(46:23) Working in tandem

(47:50) Broad and pointed design

(55:40) Gap between the practical and abstract

(59:30) Competition, neuro diversity

(1:02:00) Privileging of the semantic

(1:04:00) Vintage textbooks, object visualization

(1:07:00) Mechanics are not being replenished

(1:08:30) Fragility of our power grid

(1:10:40) Behavior of cows, follow the leader

(1:16:45) Stopping cattle, novel attractors

(1:18:50) Voluntary exposure

(1:23:55) Humane slaughter, distress

(1:27:00) How the plants work

(1:28:20) Grandin on her early career

(1:33:35) Animal welfare, targeted activism

(1:36:40) Why cattle?

(1:38:34) Facing fear and backdoors

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317. Radical Leftist turned Conservative Activist | Amala Ekpunobi Dec 26, 2022

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Dr Jordan B Peterson and Amala Ekpunobi discuss her early life being raised in a far left household, the instances that caused her to question the all-encompassing ideology she had been fed, and her rise to providence as an internet and podcast personality, advocating for the truth across party lines.

Raised in a far-left activist household, twenty-two-year-old Amala Ekpunobi was once a student organizer for the left. Unanswered questions–and a search for the truth–led her to a complete ideological transformation. Passionately sharing her new conservative values online, Amala became a viral social media sensation. Now the host of PragerU’s popular show “Unapologetic with Amala,” she inspires millions of young people every day to discover the truth, defend their values, and lead better lives.

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(1:34) Intro

(4:36) Amala and PragerU

(9:00) Being a voice of reason

(11:10) Notoriety helps

(15:30) Viral vitriol

(17:40) Pressure under truth

(20:05) Ego and humility

(21:00) Young Peterson and the NDP

(25:00) Siren calls of the left

(29:00) Fault in the ethos of compassion

(35:35) Argument and affirmation loops

(43:30) Bullies and reaction

(45:50) The axiom behind pride

(50:20) Greta Thunberg, making an oracle

(53:43) Starting early, rise of the activist

(56:56) Then and now, self verification

(1:01:30) Knowing your thoughts

(1:04:34) Argument and the cycle of growth

(1:13:28) Peterson on managing his humility

(1:17:00) Importance of reminders

(1:20:00) Behavior and the public eye

(1:24:00) Nobility despite tragedy

(1:27:00) Trait neuroticism, Wim Hof

(1:29:14) Accountability

(1:34:46) Conflict delayed is conflict multiplied

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316. Parenting and the Narcissists of Compassion | Stephanie Davies-Arai Dec 22, 2022

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Dr Jordan B Peterson and Stephanie Davies-Arai discuss parenting and the pitfalls of compassion when linked to trans ideology.

Stephanie Davies-Arai is the founder and director of Transgender Trend, the leading UK organization calling for evidence-based healthcare for gender dysphoric children and young people and fact-based teaching in schools. She is the author of Communicating with Kids with a background in teacher training and parent support. She was shortlisted for the John Maddox Prize 2018 for the schools guide Supporting gender diverse and trans-identified students in schools. In 2020 Stephanie was an intervener in the High Court in support of Keira Bell and Mrs A, who brought a landmark case against the Tavistock Gender Identity Development Service in a claim that under-18s are not old enough to consent to treatment with puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones. In 2022 Stephanie was awarded the British Empire Medal as founder of Transgender Trend for services to children in the Queen’s Jubilee Birthday Honours list.

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(2:40) When we dislike our own kids

(4:00) The importance of duality in parenting

(6:40) Optimal family dynamics

(10:35) Post-Freudian world, the dismay in peace

(19:43) Camps of discipline

(24:55) Parenting books, lack of scrutiny

(27:24) The terror in total freedom

(31:50) Sam Brinton, subjective truth

(40:00) Gender identity is the new counter culture

(47:45) Creativity and negative flux

(53:12) Twenge, self confidence, affirmation

(58:52) The folly of self consciousness

(1:05:11) Depression spirals

(1:08:30) Demi-Boys and unstable categories

(1:15:57) Anxiety, women, and social contagion

(1:21:00) Objectification and over correction

(1:27:55) The job of your therapist

(1:35:08) Compassion and the lie of self harm

(1:39:00) Facing the narcissism of compassion

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315. The World is Not Ending | Bjørn Lomborg Dec 19, 2022

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Dr Jordan B Peterson and Dr. Bjørn Lomborg discuss the present sense of impending doom that has swept the western world- and specifically today's young people. Together they break down the ideas of social credit and easy activism, and paint the picture of a world we can strive for, without the demonization and destruction of the one we currently inhabit.

Bjørn Lomborg is a Danish author, having written numerous books on climate change such as “False Alarm,” “The Skeptical Environmentalist,” and “How to Spend $75 Billion to Make the World a Better Place.” He is the president of the think tank Copenhagen Consensus Center that focuses on doing the most good, for the most people, with increasingly limited budgets. Previously, Lomborg was the director of the Danish government's Environmental Assessment Institute.

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(1:30) Intro

(3:15) Symbolism of the climate cult

(13:35) Battle for balance

(19:17) Don’t panic

(23:20) the Messianic urge

(30:00) When it’s the end of the world

(34:00) Hyper simplified moralism

(40:00) The correct use of science

(46:00) The better solution, delayed gratification

(51:33) The problem with “need”

(53:45) Wealth for the typical person

(58:00) Imposing degrowth, inviting totalitarianism

(1:05:00) Flawed predictions, the real fight

(1:12:49) The wrong comparison, the right idea

(1:19:30) Indoor air pollution

(1:22:00) Education, double for nothing

(1:30:03) Zone of proximal development

(1:34:12) Ethical wealth

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314. Consciousness, Chaos and Order | Dr. Robin Carhart-Harris Dec 15, 2022

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Dr Jordan B Peterson and Dr. Robin Carhart-Harris delve into the world of psychedelic research, their utility in therapy, and the impact they can have on neuroticism. They also explore broader aspects of psychopathology, brain imaging, optimized play, and the way trauma can warp our perspectives of the world.

Robin is the Ralph Metzner Distinguished Professor in Neurology and Psychiatry and Director of Neuroscape’s Psychedelics Division at the University of California, San Francisco. He moved to Imperial College London in 2008 after obtaining a PhD in Psychopharmacology from the University of Bristol. Robin has designed human brain imaging studies with LSD, psilocybin, MDMA and DMT, and several clinical trials of psilocybin therapy for severe mental illnesses. Robin founded the Centre for Psychedelic Research at Imperial College London in April 2019, was ranked among the top 31 medical scientists in 2020, and in 2021, was named in TIME magazine’s ‘100 Next’ – a list of 100 rising stars shaping the future. His research is creating system-level change in mental health care.

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(1:00) Intro

(2:50) Implicit learning

(7:52) Tuned perceptions, warped vantage points

(12:00) Rebirth, rapid new learning

(16:00) Alcoholism, unlearning pain

(20:22) Neuroticism, Freud, and the disconnect

(24:00) Cascading depression

(30:10) Functional depression

(35:30) The source of psychopathology

(46:48) The psychedelic experience

(49:47) Genetic mutation, error correction

(53:30) Micro and macro environments

(56:33) The multitude within

(58:39) Pageau, optimized play

(1:04:00) When play is absent from the system

(1:07:25) Depth of play, levels of engagement

(1:09:55) Local minima

(1:13:29) Psychedelics and antidepressants

(1:17:40) Creative surging under influence

(1:21:30) Every benefit has a cost

(1:23:32) Terrance and Dennis McKenna, false positives

(1:26:15) Paranoid Schizophrenia

(1:29:26) The feeling of confidence vs. uncertainty

(1:33:33) Exposure therapy, building up bravery

(1:35:00) Brain imaging, mapping experience

(1:38:40) Entropic brain principle

(1:40:00) Between order and chaos, Marduk

(1:44:16) Signatures of criticality, the Alpha Rhythm

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313. Debt Free Government and Fundamental Values | John Anderson Dec 12, 2022

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Dr Jordan B Peterson and John Anderson discuss the impressive erasure of Australia’s federal debt during Anderson’s employment as Deputy Prime Minister. They also go into the importance of economic reform, the regression in progress seen through the lens of climate change, the spirit of democracy, and the inherent worth of man.

John Anderson is a sixth-generation farmer and grazier from New South Wales, Australia, who spent 19 years from 1989 in Parliament. He served as a senior Cabinet minister in the reformist government led by John Howard (1996 to 2005), one of the most successful governments in Australian parliamentary history. This included six years as Leader of the National Party and Deputy Prime Minister. Despite no longer holding office, Anderson continues to serve the interests of Australia's rural and regional communities. In 2018, Anderson started an intellectual talk show/podcast hybrid, “Conversations with John Anderson,” that seeks out thought leaders from around the world to discuss and debate hard and necessary topics.

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(1:27) Intro

(3:35) Wiping out AU’s federal debt

(11:00) When a GOV should invest

(15:00) 2008, delayed gratification

(20:15) Nearly thrown out after 3 years

(26:30) Change of leadership

(28:35) Netanyahu, response to economic reform

(32:00) Climate ethos

(38:18) The ones thrown overboard

(42:15) Colonial energy standards

(44:55) The reverse of progress

(47:16) The limits-to-growth model

(50:30) Elevation from poverty

(54:49) 15 percent greener

(1:01:25) Informed principles

(1:08:35) Democracy as a spirit

(1:10:00) BLM, slavery, Wilberforce

(1:15:30) Am I not a man and a brother?

(1:19:55) Axiomatic worth, divine prosperity

(1:28:04) Pain, reality, looking on the cross

(1:34:00) Suffering, the pattern of being

(1:42:50) Contemplation, fierce aim

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312. The Great Climate Con | Alex Epstein Dec 08, 2022

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Alex Epstein discuss the undeniable need for fossil fuels, the toxic underlying nihilism of the “climate concerned” left, the need for balance between conservation and human progress, and the unexplored worth of wild potential.

Alex Epstein is a philosopher and energy expert who argues that "human flourishing" should be the guiding principle of energy and environmental progress. He is the author of the new bestselling book Fossil Future: Why Global Human Flourishing Requires More Oil, Coal, and Natural Gas—Not Less. He is also the creator of EnergyTalkingPoints.com—a source of powerful, well-referenced talking points on energy, environmental, and climate issues.

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(3:36) Fossil Future

(6:17) The metric for success

(12:28) Nature viewed as a god, Fusion

(16:49) Hostility toward impact

(21:33) How the climate cult evolved

(24:09) What drives the anti-capitalist ethos?

(30:30) The planet has gotten 15 percent greener

(33:20) Conceptions of Earth

(35:24) The world without humanity

(38:48) The underlying Nihilism

(43:00) Worth of man to the Left

(45:14) The toxicity of modern environmentalism

(50:35) Moral monopoly, Bjørn Lomborg

(59:35) Climate Denier, propaganda

(1:05:00) 50+ years, a complete failure as a movement

(1:07:20) Keeping the third world poor

(1:12:10) Actual concern for the poor

(1:15:00) Climate Reparations

(1:16:30) Moral Aesthetics

(1:20:10) Importance of conservation

(1:23:30) Existential guilt, sufficient value

(1:28:03) Delicate nurture dogma, wild potential

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311. Does Israel have the Right to Exist? | PM-Elect Benjamin Netanyahu Dec 05, 2022

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Israel Prime Minister-Elect Benjamin Netanyahu discuss the history of Israel, its status as an embattled nation, the importance of the struggle for statehood, why and how the PM came back from political demise, and his vision for the future.

Benjamin Netanyahu was recently reelected as Prime Minister of Israel, having previously served in the office from 1996–1999 and 2009–2021. From 1967–1972 he served as a soldier and commander in Sayeret Matkal, an elite special forces unit of the Israeli Defense Forces. A graduate of MIT, he served as Israel’s Ambassador to the United Nations from 1984–1988, before being elected to the Israeli parliament as a member of the Likud party in 1988. He has published five previous books on terrorism and Israel’s quest for peace and security. He lives in Jerusalem with his wife, Sara. In his newest book "Bibi: My Story" the newly reelected prime minister of Israel tells the story of his family, the story of his people, his path to leadership, and his unceasing commitment to defending his country and securing its future.

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(4:03) Moses and the first settlers

(10:55) Response to the Palestinian claim

(16:07) The basis for a claim

(22:55) Making something of it

(26:04) The refugee problem

(30:00) Ultimatums and progress

(33:34) Herzl, Bipartisan world support

(39:38) the Balfour Declaration, Hitlerism

(44:40) The importance of power and productivity

(50:50) PM Netanyahu’s goal, the three pillars of peace

(51:48) Steps toward economic freedom

(55:55) The fat man thin man diet

(59:50) Brush with political demise

(1:04:00) Bibi: My Story

(1:04:40) What guides a leader vs a politician?

(1:10:00) The Abraham Accords, Obama

(1:17:00) Israel and Donald Trump

(1:18:38) Why has the process stalled with Biden?

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310. Viral: The Origin of Covid 19 | Matt Ridley Dec 01, 2022

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Matt Ridley go in depth to explore the Covid 19 outbreak, scrutinizing the lack of criticism, the inherent red flags widely accepted as benign, the possible motive for a multi-government cover up, and ultimately the demise of the scientific enlightenment as it bends to a more fearsome pandemic: totalitarianism.

Matt Ridley is a British writer, journalist, and public speaker. His books collectively have sold over a million copies, and have been translated into 31 languages. His books include The Red Queen, The Origins of Virtue, Genome, Nature via Nurture, Francis Crick, The Rational Optimist, The Evolution of Everything, and How Innovation Works. He is also frequently published in the Wall Street Journal, and in the Times (London), as a columnist. As a speaker, Ridley has seen over two million views for his TED talk, “When Ideas Have Sex.” Ridley focuses on the area of science for his writings, and held the role of science editor at the Economist for nine years.

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(4:25) The origin of the Covid 19 outbreak

(7:39) Adapted for humans

(11:42) Immediate effectiveness

(13:50) Inserted genetic information

(16:29) Early concerns of engineering, the pangolin problem

(20:00) Reputation management, potential cover up

(25:00) The smoking gun, Project Defuse

(28:24) The impossibility of ethical science in a totalitarian country

(33:50) When presumptions don’t add up

(37:00) Framing the pandemic as political, a distraction

(45:16) 80,000 animals tested in Wuhan, 0 infected

(50:30) The lack of criticism for the Chinese government

(53:53) Potential darkness, spreading totalitarianism

(57:03) China envy, recalling the USSR

(1:01:23) Other possible motives

(1:05:24) The sad evolution of scientific inquiry

(1:09:30) The demise of the enlightenment

(1:17:15) The antagonism between religion and science

(1:22:07) Truth over consequence

(1:28:01) The conflation of religion as a faith and as an institution

(1:36:00) The spirit of inquiry

(1:38:37) Dawkins; not seeking the answer, following the questions

(1:43:20) The truth will set you free

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