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Hi everyone,
The 3-hour vaccine death debate between Denis and Tracy has now been released! Anyone can access it now here in the Substack app/website or in the Spotify/Apple links below. I hope it helps shape your perspective on this contentious topic.
Takeaways:
* Tracy criticizes Denis' paper on the number of deaths caused by COVID vaccines, arguing that the estimate of 17 million deaths is implausible.
* Denis defends his paper, explaining the methodology and selection of countries in the study.
* The debate becomes heated as they discuss the accusation of cherry-picking countries.
* Technical difficulties interrupt the discussion briefly. There are inconsistencies in estimates of excess mortality and the causal link between COVID-19 vaccines and deaths.
* Methodology plays a crucial role in determining the accuracy of these estimates.
* Accurate information and fact-finding are essential in understanding the impact of COVID-19 vaccines on mortality.
* Further discussion and analysis are needed to address the discrepancies between different studies and estimates. There is a temporal association between booster rollouts and excess mortality.
* The causes of excess mortality are complex and can vary between countries and age groups.
* The peak in mortality after the pandemic announcement is a significant phenomenon that requires further investigation.
* Analyzing mortality data in countries without age stratification requires additional considerations.
* The consistent association of excess mortality with booster rollouts suggests a potential link.
* Quantifying excess mortality and the vaccine dose fatality rate can provide insights into the risk of death. The correlation between vaccine rollout and excess mortality is a topic of debate, with different interpretations and perspectives.
* Communication plays a crucial role in conveying scientific findings, and the choice of words and statements can impact public perception.
* Traditional methods may not always capture vaccine mortality, and there is a need for more comprehensive data and analysis.
* The case of Sweden's excess mortality highlights the complexities of interpreting data and the importance of considering different factors.
* Improving data collection and reporting is essential for a better understanding of the impact of vaccines and other interventions. Clear communication and agreement on recording and distribution processes are important in collaborative conversations.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
07:19 Tracy's Criticisms of Denis' Paper
12:20 Denis' Response to Tracy's Criticisms
27:17 Discussion on the Selection of Countries
34:00 Technical Difficulties
38:36 Addressing the Accusation of Cherry Picking
40:18 Excess Mortality and Vaccine Rollout
45:20 Cherry Picking and Projection
49:48 Analyzing Denmark's Data
52:30 Causality and Correlation
58:03 Excess Mortality by Age Group
01:03:36 Temporal Relationship between Vaccination and Mortality
01:10:20 Discussion on Causality and Uncertainties
01:16:01 Clarifying Statements and Limitations
01:19:25 Introduction and Setting the Stage
01:21:15 Inconsistencies in Estimates and Causal Link
01:23:14 Discussion on Methodology and Excess Mortality
01:36:19 Desire for Accurate Information and Fact-Finding
01:45:45 Proposal to Show Additional Graphs and Discuss Discrepancies
01:51:26 Graphs Showing Excess Mortality in Peru
01:54:10 Graphs Showing Excess Mortality by Age Group
01:55:01 Association between booster rollouts and excess mortality
01:59:05 Exploring the causes of excess mortality
02:00:09 Examining the New Zealand data
02:01:10 Consistent association of excess mortality with booster rollouts
02:02:35 Analyzing mortality data in countries without age stratification
02:03:08 Understanding the peak in mortality in Ecuador
02:04:36 Exploring the peak in mortality after the pandemic announcement
02:07:40 Considering the initial vaccine rollout and booster rollout
02:09:53 Comparing excess mortality in different periods
02:11:45 Quantifying excess mortality and vaccine dose fatality rate
02:19:14 Addressing the inconsistency in excess mortality patterns
02:25:36 Examining excess mortality in Sweden
02:35:29 Discussion on Vaccine Rollout and Excess Mortality
02:40:17 Clarifying the Claims and Interpretations
02:46:35 Debate on Communication and Provocative Statements
02:53:07 Why Traditional Methods Don't Pick Up Vaccine Mortality
02:59:59 Sweden's Excess Mortality and Interpretation
03:04:55 The Need for Better Data and Reporting
03:08:26 Debrief and Final Thoughts
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