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Bothsidesism Isn't What You Think Dec 31, 2025

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Holy Post Media is no stranger to accusations of both-sidesism. Skye and Kaitlyn talk about why they believe pointing it out on both sides isn't simple equivocation or conflict-avoidance, but instead a responsibility… depending on the context.

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0:00 - Intro

0:58 - Theme Song

1:18 - Defining Both-Sidesism

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11:30 - False equivalency

16:58 - Are we just placating conservatives?

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32:34 - Is the Far Left Real?

50:33 - Forest Fires and Campfires

1:06:31 - End Credits

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701: Mailbag! Decompressing, Demonology, & Dreams for 2026 Dec 24, 2025

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We've reached the end of 2025, so we thought it's a good time to answer questions from the Holy Post community. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn cover a wide assortment of issues, from how they decompress after a difficult podcast, and how they pick which politicians to interview, to their favorite movies, and who is best at changing a tire. They also tackle theological questions about the nature of grace, the limitations we will still have in the new creation, and why demons may not be fallen angels. They also give their predictions for 2026. Along the way, Phil has weird ideas about hair, Skye wants to be a mango, and Kaitlyn makes a big announcement.

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0:00 - Show Starts

3:15 - Theme Song

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8:42 - Holy Post Team as Veggies

14:30 - Can You Be Ethical and Non-Christian?

21:41 - Stories and Conflict in Heaven

25:45 - Republicans on Holy Post

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32:15 - Will Skye Fix Flat Tires?

36:33 - Is Salvation Free?

39:12 - Impactful Movies

42:39 - Self-Care

52:06 - Pluralism and Faithfulness

1:09:41 - End Credits

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700: What Every Christian Can Learn from A.A. with John Ortberg Dec 17, 2025

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Last weekend was filled with terrible news, including a mass shooting in Australia, another at Brown University, and the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss these events and why rediscovering the biblical practice of lament is better than just "thoughts and prayers." The Catholic Church has taken a nuanced and principled position on the deportation of immigrants. Why do evangelicals find that so difficult? Then John Ortberg talks with Skye about his latest book, which applies the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous to Christian spiritual formation. It's called "Steps: A guide to transforming your life when willpower isn't enough." Also this week, the U.K. is building a giant Möbius strip for God.

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0:00 - Show Starts

2:00 - Theme Song

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4:56 - Mass Shooting in Australia

14:08 - The Murder of Rob Reiner

17:55 - Lament

24:37 - The Catholic Church and Immigration

28:37 - Murkiness of the US Immigration Crisis

37:10 - UK Prayer Mobius Strip

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52:45 - A Wimpy Step One

1:00:14 - Showing Up

1:12:10 - Giving Up Control vs Giving Up Agency

1:24:06 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Deportation and the Catholic Church:

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/268183/cna-explains-when-is-a-deportation-policy-intrinsically-evil

Mobius Strip of Prayer in the UK:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/11/uk-answered-prayer-monument-landmark-richard-gamble/

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Steps: A Guide to Transforming Your Life When Willpower Isn't Enough by John Ortberg: https://amzn.to/4q9YSJN

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699: The Limits of Liberalism & Punishing Immigrants with Matthew Soerens Dec 10, 2025

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Two writers from the New York Times say the liberal values that have flooded our culture with online gambling, pornography, and cannabis have backfired, but secular progressives, like Ezra Klein, admit that they don't have a framework for explaining why. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the benefits and limitations of liberalism as a political and social philosophy, and why those on the left are increasingly aware of their need for religion. Matthew Soerens from World Relief is back to discuss why the Trump administration's immigration policies are so different in his second term, how the President's ever-changing rhetoric is causing chaos, and why America is accepting the collective punishment of immigrants. Also this week, raccoons are on a mission to be the pets of the future.

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0:00 - Show Starts

4:45 - Theme Song

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7:40 - Racoons Got Cuter!

14:35 - Ross Douthet on Liberalism's Failures

28:45 - The Economy Can't Form Ethics

41:30 - Black and Latino Voices

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54:57 - Interview

57:03 - Afghanistan and Immigration

1:03:07 - Dehumanizing Rhetoric

1:21:12 - Christian Persecution and Immigration

1:31:14 - End Credits

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Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Raccoons Getting Cuter?

https://allthatsinteresting.com/north-american-raccoon-domestication

Ross Douthet Piece on Liberalism

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/02/opinion/liberalism-postliberalism-affordability.html

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698: De-Christianizing America & Re-Christianizing Advent with Rich Villodas Dec 03, 2025

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The government of Israel has been criticized for building fences in Gaza and the West Bank, but now it's geofencing American churches. Will its plan reverse the decline of evangelical support for the Jewish state? Donald Trump says he's making the country more Christian, but data shows his immigration policy favors secular immigrants and rejects Christians. Rich Villodas is back to talk about his new book for Advent, "Waiting for Jesus." He says we should use this season to resist consumerism, commercialism, and Christian culturalism. Also this week, a giant flightless parrot has issues Down Under.

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0:00 - Show Starts

4:43- Theme Song

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7:35 - Toucan Butt Disease!

14:35 - Israel Geofencing Ads Around Churches

29:00 - Deportations Making America More Secular?

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52:10 - Interview

54:06 - Church Calendar Explained

1:03:50 - Spirit of Herod

1:17:37 - End Credits

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Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Kakapo Crusty Butt Disease!

https://www.popsci.com/environment/kakapo-antibiotics-crusty-bum/

Immigration Crackdown Making Us Less Christian?

https://religionnews.com/2025/11/18/why-trumps-immigration-crackdown-may-make-america-less-christian/?utm_source=RNS+Updates&utm_campaign=506d68c8ac-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2025_11_19_01_03&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c5356cb657-506d68c8ac-387424458

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Waiting for Jesus: An Advent Invitation to Prayer and Renewal: An Advent Christmas Devotional by Rich Villodas: https://amzn.to/3Me8e8v

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What Does the Magi Story Really Tell Us About Jesus? (From this week's Curiously Kaitlyn) Dec 02, 2025

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We're popping a Curiously Kaitlyn episode into your feed this week because we're starting a brand-new Advent series, and—let's be honest—the nativity story gets weird. Kids notice all the odd details we learned to ignore, and suddenly you're fielding questions you did not prepare for in Sunday School.So instead of scrambling for answers all by yourself, you can join us all month as we explore the questions your kids (and most adults!) are genuinely curious about. First up: Who exactly are the wise men, and why do they show up in the nativity scene at all? If you enjoy the conversation, make sure you're subscribed to Curiously Kaitlyn wherever you get your podcasts. We've got a whole month of Christmas episodes coming your way. 0:00 - Theme Song

2:05 - What's Up With the Star?

9:00 - How Many Wise Men?

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17:00 - Why's this in the Bible?

27:00 - Balaam and the Magi

37:37 - End Credits

697: Cancelling "Judeo-Christian," Defending Slavery, & Rethinking Gaza with J. Ross Wagner Nov 26, 2025

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The term "Judeo-Christian" has been used by the Religious Right for decades as a positive shorthand for biblical values in the culture, so why are conservative Christians now rejecting the label? And why are Christian defenses of slavery and the Confederacy gaining popularity 160 years after the Civil War? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn explain how the rising influence of Christian nationalism drives both trends. J. Ross Wagner, editor of the new book, "Being Christian After the Desolation of Gaza," talks to Skye about how both American and Palestinian Christians are reexamining evangelical support for Israel. Also this week, a woman has been hiding in the New Testament for nearly 2,000 years, and there's a new horror movie about a teenage Jesus. What could go wrong?

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0:00 - Show Starts

3:29 - Theme Song

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7:10 - Jesus Horror Movie?

13:44 - Hidden Woman in the Bible?

20:20 - Judeo-Christian No More?

31:50 - Slavery Debate Continues

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55:25 - Interview

58:20 - Why Was This Written?

1:03:50 - Pro-Israel and Antisemitism

1:13:31 - Christian Palestinian Response

1:22:00 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Christianity Today Article on Jesus Horror Movie:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/11/the-carpenters-son-nicolas-cage/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Christians%20from%2045%20Countries%20Petition%20China%20to%20Release%20Pastor%20%7C%20Hindu%20Nationalists%20Attack%20Missionary%20Bus%3A%20CT%20Daily&utm_campaign=CT%20Daily%20Briefing%20-%2011-14-2025&vgo_ee=A9uyoW2d0AIM3QLf0XsIr2KqZu31%2FZWwqyRndI7tytjVfTLPKU7FMTrl8ZnNdw%3D%3D%3AGQRnuGbB%2B00KGOB7ZwEM%2FCWGl7W8Ep9S

Woman Hidden in the Bible:

https://greekreporter.com/2025/11/21/lost-greek-woman-bible/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=GreekReporter/magazine/Greek+Reporter

The Right Rejecting the Judeo-Christian term: https://religionnews.com/2025/11/18/on-the-right-judeo-christian-values-are-out-and-christian-nationalism-is-in/?utm_source=RNS+Updates&utm_campaign=506d68c8ac-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2025_11_19_01_03&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c5356cb657-506d68c8ac-387424458

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Being a Christian After the Desolation of Gaza by Bruce Fisk and J. Ross Wagner:

https://amzn.to/482NkBU

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696: Transcending Our Political Divisions & Labels with Andy Beshear Nov 19, 2025

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Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss a New York Times column by David Brooks. He says America's divisions will only heal when we abandon shallow labels and war metaphors, and instead see one another as fellow pilgrims on a journey. America's Catholic bishops issue a stern rebuke of the Trump administration's dehumanizing rhetoric and policies, which makes Phil wonder why evangelical leaders can't do the same. Then, Skye talks to Kentucky's Democratic governor, Andy Beshear, about why he's so popular in a state that Donald Trump won by 30 points, and how his party can begin to narrow the "God gap" with voters. Also this week—an A.I. vacuum cleaner has an existential crisis.

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0:00 - Show Starts

3:32 - Theme Song

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6:20 - AI Roomba Has a Breakdown

16:08- David Brooks on Pilgrimage and Pluralism

45:50 - Catholic Bishops Critical on Immigration Law

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52:21 - Interview

54:48 - What Went Wrong with Democrats?

1:03:42 - Fire with Fire Approach?

1:09:06 - Democrat's Aversion to Religious Language

1:13:30 - Pro-Life Democrats?

1:21:51 - How Will Democrats Change?

1:25:32 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Roomba Butter Breakdown:

https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/llm-robot-vacuum-existential-crisis

David Brooks Article on Pluralism:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/13/opinion/christian-nationalism.html

Catholic Bishops on Trump's Immigration Policies:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/us/bishops-trump-immigration.html

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695: Analyzing the Blue Wave & Why the Church Still Matters with Carmen Joy Imes Nov 12, 2025

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The Democratic Party swept the off-cycle elections last week, but this isn't the first blue wave we've seen in the Trump era. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss what it means and the significance of New York City electing a Muslim, democratic socialist as mayor. Does Mamdani represent the death of New York, and possibly America, as one Baptist leader claims? Old Testament scholar Carmen Imes is back to discuss why she hasn't given up on the church, and we shouldn't either. Her new book is "Becoming God's Family: Why the Church Still Matters." Also this week—how social media is making Christianity dumber and what to do about it.

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0:00 - Show Starts

3:54 - Theme Song

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6:30 - Blue Wave or Just a Wash?

12:12 - Buzz Around Mamdani

24:00 - Critics of Israel Called Anti-Semetic

30:11 - NYC, Immigration, and Voting Rights

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54:47 - Interview

1:05:00 - Why's the Old Testament Relevant?

1:13:00 - Struggles for the Church

1:28:28 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Fareed Zakaria Article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/11/08/democrats-elections-populism-economy-culture/

Washington Post Article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/11/08/zohran-mamdani-class-warfare-new-york-mayor/

Anti-Intellectual Christianity on Tiktok:

https://juicyecumenism.com/2025/11/07/anti-intellectual-christianitys-rise/

Other Resources:

Becoming God's Family: Why Church Still Matters by Carmen Imes: https://a.co/d/inzSS5d

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French Friday: The Nazi Rot on the Right Nov 07, 2025

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Open Nazi rhetoric is gaining traction on the right, and the response from conservative institutions has been inconsistent at best. Skye and David trace the roots of the problem, the incentives that fueled it, and the late-breaking backlash that may signal a tipping point. They also look at ICE's increasingly aggressive "Kavanaugh stops," the risks of expanding executive power, and why election integrity could be threatened when extremism and state authority begin to reinforce each other.

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