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593: Pro-Israeli, Pro-Palestinian, Pro-Peace with Todd Deatherage Nov 29, 2023

Show notes

With a spike in antisemitism around the world since the October 7th attack in Israel and the horrible scenes of Palestinian suffering in Gaza, Jews in the U.S. are wrestling with what it really means to be pro-Israel. Phil and Skye are joined by Holy Post pundit Mike Erre to discuss a thought-provoking sermon by American Rabbi Sharon Brous. She asks, is it possible to support one's own tribe without diminishing the human dignity of others? And how does this relate to Christian communities who feel "under siege" in America? Then, former State Department official, Todd Deatherage, shares about his 15-year effort to help Americans understand that the Israeli-Palestinian situation is not a zero-sum conflict. He says evangelicals need to stop viewing Israel as a "lucky rabbit's foot," and embrace a vision for biblical peacemaking in the region that is both pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian.

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0:00 - Intro

1:38 - Show starts

4:46 - Theme Song

5:02 - Sponsor - With God Daily

6:46 - Rise of anti-semitism

13:42 - Oppressors or Oppressees

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53:53 - Interview Intro

1:03:19 - American Evangelical's relationship with Israel

1:14:34 - Pro Israel and Pro-Palestine

1:35:19 - End Credits

Links mentioned in news segment:

‎The Ezra Klein Show: The Sermons I Needed to Hear Right Now on Apple Podcasts

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447?i=1000635157164

Bari Weiss' speech at The Federalist Society

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V-kyy2zoz4

Other resources:

The Telos Group - https://www.telosgroup.org/

Voxology podcast - https://voxologypodcast.com/

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Are the Kids Alright? EPISODE 5: How to Walk Alongside Gen Z with Tanita Maddox Nov 24, 2023

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Whether you're a parent, a youth pastor, a teacher or a young person yourself, you've probably seen all of the headlines concerning Gen Z. Rates of depression and loneliness are surging, their relationship with technology is kind of troubling, and they are leaving the church in droves. We've talked about these trends a lot on the Holy Post, but we're not alone. Tenx10 is a new collaborative discipleship initiative whose mission is to make faith matter more for this younger generation. We've partnered with Tenx10 to create this series and to hear from experts in each episode about the challenges young people and those who care about them are facing. One of those experts is Tanita Maddox. Tanita is the Associate Regional Director for the Western Mountain Region for Young Life and has worked in youth ministry for the last 30 years. She wrote her doctoral thesis on sharing the gospel with Gen Z and brings a unique insight and understanding of Gen Z that has served parents, employers, and educators in their understanding of the next generation. I sat down with Tanita to find out if the kids are going to be alright.

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592: The Evangelical Bro Code & Debriefing America's Border Crisis with Matthew Soerens and Carmen Imes Nov 22, 2023

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Why do so many women find Christian organizations difficult places to work? Katelyn Beaty says the "bro code" within evangelicalism is to blame. She's back to define the different parts of bro code and why it needs to change. Then, immigration is once again a hot political debate, and it ranked as the top issue for many white evangelicals in recent elections. Last month, a group of Holy Posters visited the Southern border to see what's really happening, meet with church leaders on both sides, as well as border agents. Skye and Kaitlyn Schiess are joined by Old Testament scholar Carman Imes and World Relief's Matthew Soerens to debrief their trip. Also this week—dead pet psychics and air passengers horsing around.

0:00 - Intro

1:28 - Show starts

3:09 - Theme Song

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4:30 - Show resumes

6:56 - Animal News

11:20 - Flight News

15:10 - Pet Psychics

27:46 - Evangelical Bro Code

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51:30 - Holy Post Border Trip Debrief

1:29:08 - End Credits

Links mentioned in news segment:

Plane turns back to JFK after horse escapes on board

https://www.cnn.com/travel/horse-escapes-on-boeing-747/index.html#:~:text=A%20Boeing%20747%20en%20route,people%20familiar%20with%20the%20episode.

Gospel singer almost booted off Delta flight for singing new single

https://nypost.com/2023/11/13/news/gospel-singer-almost-booted-off-delta-flight-for-singing-new-single/

She Charges $550 for 90 Minutes and Has a Wait List of 7,600 People

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/pet-psychics-for-animals-dogs-paranormal-charge-156ec320

No Woman Can Crack the Evangelical Bro Code

https://katelynbeaty.substack.com/p/no-woman-can-crack-the-evangelical

Other resources:

Skye's explainer video on immigration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgfp5ngxqBI&t=11s

The Border is a Mess. What Can Christians Do To Help?

https://www.holypost.com/post/the-border-is-a-mess-what-can-christians-do

The Torah is Pro-Immigrant. Nehemiah Was Not

https://www.holypost.com/post/the-torah-is-pro-immigrant-nehemiah-was-not

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Are the Kids Alright? EPISODE 4: Why Gen Z is Leaving the Church with Ryan Burge Nov 17, 2023

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Whether you're a parent, a youth pastor, a teacher or a young person yourself, you've probably seen all of the headlines concerning Gen Z. Rates of depression and loneliness are surging, their relationship with technology is kind of troubling, and they are leaving the church in droves. We've talked about these trends a lot on the Holy Post, but we're not alone. Tenx10 is a new collaborative discipleship initiative whose mission is to make faith matter more for this younger generation. We've partnered with Tenx10 to create this series and to hear from experts in each episode about the challenges young people and those who care about them are facing. One of those experts is Ryan Burge, a political scientist, pastor, and Holy Post Pundit. He is known for his deep understanding of data about religion and 60 Minutes has called him one of the "leading data analysts on religion and politics" within the United States. Over the last few years he has written several great pieces about the religious trends among Gen Z. Phil Vischer sat down with Ryan to find out if the kids are going to be alright.

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591: The Social Gospel Strikes Back & Plodding Through Life with Drew Dyck Nov 15, 2023

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Striking auto union workers are quoting the Bible, progressive politicians are citing Jesus, and religious language is returning to more liberal causes. While everyone is focused on the rise of Christian nationalism on the political right, have we been ignoring a resurgence of the social gospel on the political left? Then, Drew Dyck is back to discuss his new book, "Just Show Up." He says the evangelical culture's focus on changing the world for God warps our vision of a faithful life, and he argues there is deep significance in committing to simple, unspectacular callings. Plus, Phil coins a term that makes it into the Washington Post. And, an alcohol company has appointed a robot as its CEO. What could possibly go wrong?

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Bonus Interview with Drew Dyck

https://www.patreon.com/posts/92890085

0:00 - Intro

1:28 - Show starts

2:56 - Theme Song

3:18 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling

4:27 - Kaitlyn's Other Podcast

7:27 - Christian Nashvillism

19:32 - AI CEO

26:42 - Modern Day Social Gospel

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52:30 - Interview Intro

Drew Dyck

55:22 - The problem of trying to do great things for God

1:07:52 - Finding Your Identity

1:21:52 - Living a quiet faithful life

1:25:23 - End Credits

Links mentioned in news segment:

There's another Christian movement that's changing our politics. It has nothing to do with whiteness or nationalism

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/13/us/social-gospel-movement-uaw-strike-blake-cec/index.html

Why a bucolic Tennessee suburb is a hotbed of 'Christian Nashville-ism'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2023/11/08/nashville-suburbs-christian-nationalism/

Polish alc-bev firm Dictador hires AI CEO to lead its ops

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/hello-mika-polish-alc-bev-firm-dictador-hires-ai-ceo-to-lead-its-ops-robot-says-she-has-no-weekends/articleshow/105063641.cms

Other resources:

Just Show Up: How Small Acts of Faithfulness Change Everything (A Guide for Exhausted Christians)

https://amzn.to/3QZgdGA

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Are the Kids Alright? EPISODE 3: How Technology is Forming Young People with Felicia Song Nov 10, 2023

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Whether you're a parent, a youth pastor, a teacher or a young person yourself, you've probably seen all of the headlines concerning Gen Z. Rates of depression and loneliness are surging, their relationship with technology is kind of troubling, and they are leaving the church in droves. We've talked about these trends a lot on the Holy Post, but we're not alone. Tenx10 is a new collaborative discipleship initiative whose mission is to make faith matter more for this younger generation. We've partnered with Tenx10 to create this series and to hear from experts in each episode about the challenges young people and those who care about them are facing. One of those experts is Felicia Song, a professor of Sociology at Westmont who studies the place of digital technologies in contemporary life. She regularly speaks on digital practices, social media, the digital media industry, parenting in the digital age, and spiritual formation at universities and colleges, churches, schools, parent groups, and conferences. Kaitlyn Schiess sat down with Felicia to find out if the kids are going to be alright.

0:00 - Theme Song

0:18 - Intro

1:32 - Digital Natives

13:46 - Managing our Tech Addictions

32:51 - Tenx10 Info - Go to tenx10.org for resources on how to help the younger generation care more about faith

34:02 - Debrief

48:48 - End Credits

Links and Resources

Tenx10 - https://www.tenx10.org/

Restless Devices: Recovering Personhood, Presence, and Place in the Digital Age by Felicia Wu Song - https://amzn.to/3QVahyo

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590: Who's the Most Pro-Life? & the Bible on Immigration with M. Daniel Carroll Nov 08, 2023

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Democrats are pro-choice and Republicans are pro-life. Right? According to Ryan Burge it's not that simple. He says a closer look at the data reveals more nuance to the issue, including a significant number of Black and Latino Democrats who are strongly pro-life, and pro-life Republicans who support traditionally progressive social policies. In a post-Roe America, the abortion issue is getting a lot more complicated. Then, Skye talks to Old Testament professor M. Daniel Carroll about a theology of immigration. He says that before Christians adopt a political policy about immigration they first need a biblical vision of immigrants themselves. All of that, plus smashing pumpkin records.

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0:00 - Intro

1:25 - Show starts

2:42 - Theme Song

2:59 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling

4:13 - Pumpkin Boat Record Broken

13:31 - Abortion rates rising post Dobbs decision

23:14 - Misconceptions about pro-life supporters

41:40 - Sponsor - World Relief

42:52 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food

44:06 - Interview Intro

M Daniel Carroll

48:34 - Stories of migrants in the Bible

56:56 - Addressing the fear around immigration

1:04:55 - Illegal Immigration

1:16:29 - End Credits

Links mentioned in news segment:

Man floats down the Missouri River in a pumpkin to break world record

https://krcgtv.com/news/local/man-floats-down-the-missouri-river-in-a-pumpkin-to-break-world-record?fbclid=IwAR39zL07xqpGc0W0K85JJBpBTKOftLQsTb5Rze4yyf8fvfSLqvxLfLx-93w_aem_AeyHt700Q2v6hf63L8-u2dDRRQa0_tM9KsfOCYs8kGnL2hksIXwh55NXRBLlGtB3V0E&mibextid=S66gvF

Abortions Rose in Most States This Year, New Data Shows

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/09/07/us/abortion-data-bans-laws.html#

Two Misconceptions About Abortion

https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/abortion-as-a-wedge-issue?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1561197&post_id=137780230&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=6smb2&utm_medium=email

Other resources:

The Bible and Borders: Hearing God's Word on Immigration by M Daniel Carroll R

https://amzn.to/47dE4rg

Racism and Immigration Explainer Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgfp5ngxqBI

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Are the Kids Alright? EPISODE 2: Smartphones, Social Media, and Loneliness with Jean Twenge Nov 03, 2023

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Whether you're a parent, a youth pastor, a teacher or a young person yourself, you've probably seen all of the headlines concerning Gen Z. Rates of depression and loneliness are surging, their relationship with technology is kind of troubling, and they are leaving the church in droves. We've talked about these trends a lot on the Holy Post, but we're not alone. Tenx10 is a new collaborative discipleship initiative whose mission is to make faith matter more for this younger generation. We've partnered with Tenx10 to create this series and to hear from experts in each episode about the challenges young people and those who care about them are facing. One of those experts is Jean Twenge, a professor of psychology at San Diego State University, and an author with an expertise in generational differences and technology. She's known for her books iGen, Generation Me, and The Narcissism Epidemic, and she's argued that smartphones were the most likely cause behind the sudden increase in mental health issues among teens after 2012. Skye sat down with Jean to find out if the kids are gonna be alright.

0:00 - Theme Song

0:18 - Intro

1:32 - Epidemic of Loneliness

11:41 - Solutions

32:51 - Tenx10 Info - Go to tenx10.org for resources on how to help the younger generation care more about faith

34:02 - Debrief with Kara Powell

48:48 - End Credits

Links and Resources

Tenx10 - https://www.tenx10.org/

Generations by Jean Twenge - https://amzn.to/3FOwCXH

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589: Guarding the Wall of Separation Between Church & State with Warren Throckmorton & Michael Coulter Nov 01, 2023

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The Republicans in Congress have finally chosen a new Speaker of the House, and he's a Bible-affirming, young Earth creationist, election denying, Southern Baptist. What does Mike Johnson's rise say about the growing influence of Southern fundamentalism in politics? Then, Phil interviews Warren Throckmorton and Michael Coulter about their book, "Getting Jefferson Right," and the attempts by Christian Nationalists to revise American history to remove the wall os separation between church and state. Also this week—the war between Israel and Hamas is getting worse and so is antisemitism around the world. Plus, Charlie Kirk says Halloween is in the Bible and it's forbidden!

Holy Post Plus: Getting Schooled - Singleness 101 https://www.patreon.com/posts/92056149

0:00 - Intro

1:04 - Show starts

2:02 - Theme Song

2:25 - Sponsor - New Testament for Everyone

Learn more at www.newtestamentforeveryone.com 3:39 - Holy Post Border Trip

7:29 - Charlie Kirk on Halloween

12:59 - Latest on Israel and Gaza

28:10 - New Speaker of the House

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52:31 - Interview

Links mentioned in news segment:

Charlie Kirk: "Halloween is a dark, dark day. Not a fan of it.

https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-halloween-dark-dark-day-not-fan-it

He Seems to Be Saying His Commitment Is to Minority Rule'

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/27/mike-johnson-christian-nationalist-ideas-qa-00123882

Evangelical Mike Johnson 'Raised Up' as House Speaker

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2023/october/mike-johnson-house-speaker-evangelical-congress-bible.html

Other resources:

Getting Jefferson Right by Warren Throckmorton and Michael Coulter

https://gettingjeffersonright.com/

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French Friday: Liberty U., Israel, & Social Identity Theory Oct 27, 2023

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Liberty University, the country's largest Christian college, is facing a record-breaking fine of $37.5 million for failing to report crimes, including sexual assaults, that occur on its campus. David French and Skye Jethani discuss the case and its similarities to other scandals within Christian institutions. Why is there a culture of cover-ups within American evangelicalism? French points to the "siege mentality" of the culture war, and Jethani unpacks the way strong group identities make us dismissive of our group's evils while magnifying those of others. They then apply this other news stories including Israel's war with Hamas and the ongoing mess in Congress. Plus, they get nerdy about new sci-fi shows from Apple.

0:00 - Theme Song

0:17 - Silo

2:55 - Latest Liberty U. Scandal

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26:30 - Social Identity Theory

54:19- End Credits

Other resources:

David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench

The Worst Scandal in American Higher Education Isn't in the Ivy League

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/22/opinion/liberty-university-scandal-education.html

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