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S3 Ep20 God's Plan Dec 11, 2020

Can you make a plan and still be okay if it completely falls apart? Listen as the Gals explore Letting Go & Letting God.

Happy Holidays. Jingle Bells. Beginning of December!

1.27- So many places that we just don’t know and we just want to know all the time. Basis of human suffering. So we can make a plan and feel safe. 2020? Nope. No idea.

Most of us pretty much know this year that we just don’t know shit. Lockdown. Released to the wild. Able to travel, not able to travel?

2.29- How do you make a plan when there’s nothing to base your plans on? KM. KK is finding so much freedom because she was tied to the structure of her plans. Now just making plans to be happy in the moment, RHRN (haha).

3.25 Story has left the building. We’re all in the same boat, some of us are just going in circles. Row, Row…

4.02- question is, since we’re so aware we don’t know what’s happening, can we make plans at all? Can we let go of them at the same time?

4.49- KK is rowing gracefully down the stream but can she be okay if she hits the Titanic?

5.32- Elusive scenario, KK would have been paralyzed by the unknowing 10 years ago. Even 5 years ago, would have been iffy.

6.19. Now, become more relaxed in it all. Put too much pressure on the perfect plan. Mr. RHRN says he’ll be going to Bali before Christmas, but it’s always “this month” that he’s going. Plans for biz, life, love, kinda cool to make plans.

7.39- KM would really want her family from England here for the holidays.

8.41- Krishnamurti- sitting on a bench. “I don’t mind what happens.” In the midst of packing for a trip some years back. You know the kind of family trip…

9.08- Freedom in the “so what.” Revelation moment- KM changed. Stopped being a crazy maniac attached to how the family trip should have happened.

10.13- KK- minded in the moment about RHRN leaving before holidays. Made it mean something else. 10.41- Got rid of the story, take meaning off and ask, How is this going to serve me?

11.42 Letting go of our small ego plan and letting the Universe show up. Doesn’t always mean it will work out the way we think. 1

2.27- Wouldn’t have found the release if she gripped onto the small ego plan- the anniversary, holidays, etc.

13.18- Can create whatever you want on any day and make it special, it’s the intention behind it. 1

4.41- KK “Old Me” would have tried to control, control, control it. Putting the meaning on the holiday dates was just another way of setting herself up for disaster.

16.41- Deep, beautiful connections in simplicity. Look at how we think we know what’s good for us and look and see what happens.

17.25- Dirty energy vs clean energy. Wedding- not just an opportunity to get laid. Okay to be disappointed, we’re human. Okay to have been attached. Hard to learn to be unattached to the outcome. Perfect time for KK to have time with kids without Mr. RHRN. KK pattern is to contract, withholding. 3 years ago she probably wouldn’t have recovered, now just a couple days.

20.- ORiginally felt as if she had to give up something in order for her to get what she needed. Love is patient, not possessive. Devotion to wanting another person to be happy. Hard when we are in our ego/survival pattern, lose our ability to be flexible.

21.02- 2020 be clear in what you want to be doing.

21.16- Spirit’s in charge of the how. When you pay attention to the flow of love, life organizes around this.

21.48- “bloated nothingness” out of the way and let our Spirit lead, we’ll get much more of what we want.

22.30- taking a deep look at how she’s making decisions in all these different structures in her life. When those structures started crumbling, sigh of relief, permission to make decisions only for what she deeply, deeply desired. Self-honoring.

23.43-Present to what we’re choosing- must be here for ourselves, martyr complex. Need to love ourselves and our neighbors. Make sure your cup is full, bring the same love out to someone else.

24.44- Only way is to be in presence.

25.31- more whole, more fully-embodied.

26.37 You know it was the best thing because that’s what happened. Only way the Universe works is that what happens is what is meant to happen.

27.48- trying to make plans and waiting for all these knowings, which were uncertain at best. Over the last month, deprogramming of her mind for the judgments of those decisions. So that she could make decisions not from the old stories/patterns, was able to get ahead of the decisions. Made steps she wanted.

29.12- God’s plan unfolds from there.

29.35- Sufi prayer “in shala” /God-willing everything was encased in this. Even “see you tomorrow.”

30.26- Make plans you need to make “in shala.” Whatever it is, it will be okay.

31.10- who wants that kind of fucking responsibility!

31.32- God willing! Forcing our will to make things work. As if we know the grand plan.

32.41- So much more fun to be light, in the flow, and surrender to God’s plan. Instead of have to, have to, have to.

33.51- Instead of looking at things as failures or mistakes or shouldas. Even the things that aren’t working out are still working out and then have fun!

34.16 Make this plan and hold on loosely, don’t grab a hold and force it into being. If it doesn’t want to come in, let go. Sometimes it’s ripped out of our hands.

34.43- Number one way to not get what you want in life, truly/deeply want, is to hold on to what you think you should have as hard as you can until it almost kills you.

35.56- Get creative, wonder, ask others for insight. Such a place of play and joy in not having to own everything you think you have to own.

36.51- Make a fun plan. Set your intention to bring passion, creativity into your life. Make the plan with God. Joy, love, beauty, hope, not without challenges but still full of those things.

38.01- What if you’re outside of the ability to make a choice? Viktor Frankl- Jewish man in a concentration camp- made a choice, no matter where he was to participate with love, the highest level of who he could be and how it would affect his experience. Survived it as someone who brought value and care. “Man’s Search for Meaning.”

40.11- Sometimes you get stuck in a situation you don’t want to be in, so how do you sit with that. Things always pass.

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S3 Ep19 Lost That Lovin' Feeling Dec 02, 2020

Have you lost that lovin’ feeling? Listen as the Gals explore how to bring it back!

Oh, oh that lovin’ feeling! Juices flowing! Can’t wait!

Hot little topic today! 1:21- IN Love relationship and it’s juicy deliciousness vs I Love you, you’re my best friend, and I love hanging out with you. When the romance and deliciousness can get lost.

2:31. It’s gone! Where’d it go? The lie is you can’t get it back, once it’s gone, it’s gone.

Diff between being in Love and loving someone. In love, we have to be close, do things with them, and touch them.

3.07 KK in a juicy phase right now.

3.24. Old thinking- juiciness only lasts for a short while and then all the juice goes out. 3.50-Nursery Rhyme- KK and RHRN sitting in a tree.

4.08 You’ve got to have the loving feeling to stay in love!

4.20 Sometimes it does happen that you lose it, grab it back, you don’t have to go. 4.41 KK and RHRN a moment of looking at you, “I hate you.”

5.06- Past; wouldn’t know why she was having that reaction. Game over. Projecting and blaming leading to less love.

5.47- How do you go from being in love one day to wanting to punch him in the face the next day.

6.01- Realized she had gone silent on something, some behavior, some pattern. More she wasn’t speaking up, blame started to creep in from Mr. RHRN.

7.38- On one side RHRN is judging her for not enforcing “requests” to kids and on the flip side, RHRN is benefitting from her not saying anything when he doesn’t follow through on his actions.

7.54- Let’s pick it apart. Where is the breakdown? It’s in the “In Love.”

8.15- Second judgement comes into the frame, almost always kills “In Loving.” KK, “My pussy dries up.”

8.58- Minute he stepped into judging her, she felt like respect waned and he wasn’t in the “In Love” space.

9.10- Defense swings back to retaliate. Fuck it.

9.30- Hallmarks of being in love: generosity, abundance, creativity, possibility, laughter, joy, surrendered, cool, easy, flexible. Easy & Flexible are the fun part. Moment one goes away, it all goes away. We step out of love.

10.24- Don’t ever say, “are you on your period?” Goes downhill when KK behavior towards him changed. 11.08- When you’re in love, the common denominator is acceptance. 1

1.33 Love is patient, kind, and spacious. Even if it’s you judging yourself. 1

2.38- Middle ground of how to love herself enough by not getting taken advantage of AND still feel patient and kind. Difference between judgement and reflecting something so that you can live a better life.

14.17- It’s the little things that erode the “In Love.”

14.38- Alison Armstrong, “I want to be in love with everyone in my life, everyday.” In Love is a practice!

15.03- Minute we trigger each other, boom! We’re off to the races!

15.29- Ask how you’ve stepped out of your loving, how are you not communicating, why did I do that? Feels hard but it’s simple, really.

16.57- Creating really good agreements with each other creates/sustains the “In Loving.”

17.46- starts when KK begins to feel like she’s being taken advantage of: side glares, foot stomping, chuffing and RHRN feels like a kid who’s being punished.

18.17- way for her to show how she’s upset rather than making a loving request. In the past it’s been scary to make the request, so resorts to behavior. Resentment builds when they don’t respond the way she wants, even though she didn’t communicate it.

19.39- Ron Hulnick (USM)- If you ever want to fall out of Heaven, just have a judgmental thought about anything. Pulls you into your own story, not communication.

20.20- Sometimes we need to renegotiate our agreements.

21.01 aRe you willing to believe your partner is NOT a malevolent force in your life, setting out to piss you off or upset you? See them as innocent, even if it doesn’t make sense to you. 25.09- It’s important how fast you “fix” it. If you leave hurt feelings out there for too long, they start to fester and grow into the next one, and the next one.

26.13- What if we stopped telling ourselves the story that “In Love” can be broken. We resign to that’s what happens.

26.54 Enough insurrection moves that haven’t been cleaned up and not enough erection moves. 27.19- In Love equals a really nice sexual relationship that works for you, whether it’s loving, wild, tantric...Happens naturally if you’re in love.

28.02- we allow the little things in life to take over and build up instead of just saying the thing so that you can get back to the loving.

29.04- Eradicate the tension, has to start with You changing your behavior so that it can be received differently.

28.29- Risking your relationship for truth.

29.52- We’re all just these weirdly specific individuals who all like things the way we like them. 30.17- energy with which we tell our person things, doesn’t have to be big, heavy dark agreements. Where’s the levity, the humor? Can still have fun.

31.25- Who needs a spanking? 31.46- have to ask each other to stick to the agreements, builds the trust.

32.02- Early stages we give away our trust. If broken over and over, deteriorates the In Love. 32.42- Women get fluid, delicious when feeling safe. But if trust isn't’ there, then there’s a problem. Agreements need to be clear.

33.59 KK trying to find a place of safety and trust with RHRN.

34.39- Needs have to be met, but not all of them. A lot of people talk about one of the best ways to create the best partnership is to commit to making your partner the number one priority in your life & vice versa. Takes you out of ego, out of me, me, me. 35.43- We’re spiritual, you guys know it, we’re not hiding it. New Testament- “Love thy neighbor, as thyself.” All it means is that you get your needs met together.

36.47- have you noticed how smooth the conversations are when you’re In Love? 37.11 KK- Can I love him anyways? Are the little things worth destroying the deliciousness? These issues run deep, we make up the stories which drive our emotions.

s38.02- Add the story, stir it up, whaddya get?

38.23- It’s possible to stay In Love, possibly forever, if you’re willing to try out some of the strategies which have kept the Two Gals In Love? Deep commitment to ownership, owning your shit, forgiving it, and remaining in the Love. Reason above all else to do it? Hot sex? Because your life will flourish and so will everyone’s life around you. You got the power to stop being a Bitch, Baby, (insert whatever judgmental words you like).

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S3 Ep18 The Mother of All Wounds Nov 25, 2020

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S3 Ep17 Wild Granny Nov 18, 2020

Are your stories about your family really true? Listen as the Gals expose the roots of the Family Tree.

Earth shaking, earth moving under my feet...roots of trees starting to rumble from underneath and get really exposed.

1.22- Uncertainty in the world, go searching for safety back to our roots. Is this safe, will we be ok? KK isn’t sure her foundation is the safety net, even though she wanted it to be, just not the thing she thought it was.

2.14 Turn ourselves into pretzels to be safe. Whole 1st chakra- safety in tribe- food, safety, nurturing, but does it last?

3.17- piggybacking off last week’s episode on KK moving out of the country. Prob triggering their desire for her to be safe.

4.03 but KK didn’t hear it from her dad that way until she gave it time.

4.36- KK looking at family lineage, belief systems and questioning them and in the final stage of surrender and release of needing them to be her safety.

5.14- old story was Dad abandoned her, Mom was her Queen of safety.

6.04- Estranged through college and after, on this Mother Daughter journey of understanding, healing (epiphany- Im alone in the world, separation from blood family, and grieving that and feeling some relief in the release).

7.18 Overidentified w/ Mom but couldn’t be like her at her Dad’s.

8.09- At 30 just decided to stop trying to engage everyone, wasting time & energy.

8.32- realized recently that her Dad has been the one constant contact- whole story of her life is blown out of the water.

9.56- opened up space to where she doesn’t feel responsible to either Mom or Dad.

11.07- recent realization she had more familial ties on Dad’s side. Great Aunt made a comment about how KK is like her Great Grandmother. Grandma passed two days ago, not close but had a deep heart connection.

12.11- felt lost opportunity to get to know someone who she could have a real world connection w/ not felt like black sheep.

12.49- KM fairly frictionous relationship w/ her dad. Only in the last few years has she been able to admit she’s like him.

13.38- interesting to integrate the “other” parent.

14.45- KK Dad’s Grandma jumped a train to VA, while pregnant to escape abusive husband, landed in Kansas… considered a wild woman. Grandmother’s mom traveled to foreign countries by herself in the mid 1900’s.

15.07- just finding out the roots of the trees.

16.28- how hard it is to claim a part of ourselves when we don’t know where it’s coming from- you’re off, peculiar, different from the immediate birth family.

18.22- It is who (KK) is, always has been but always questioned bc she didn’t know it was in her lineage.

19.33- A-ha moment- Dad’s side- stories of men are passed down and celebrated, despite having wild women in their tree.

20.27- Grandfather (the abusive one) flew with Charles Lindberg and was shooting up the town below, “shot it up from the ground, shot it up from the sky.” image of this legendary man.

21.14- Do you know your lineage? Do you know who your gma ggma were? Do you know what they were involved in, were they politically active? Do you know if they were like you. Are the stories you think you know true and how have they affected your decision making and choices in life?

22.06- Can embrace the wild side. Honoring yourself and your truth.

22.43- what have you always known about yourself to be true but never let yourself have? Go digging to the bottom to find it.

23.23- KK has judged herself through Maternal lens, lifestyle didn’t fit in with hers. Now she knows it will be okay. Doesn’t have to let it change what she does. Even at this age she’s still worried about disappointing others.

24.55- KK’s gonna light it up from the ground, and light it up from the sky.

25.17- stories from family that we don’t belong but then we find out more information and it makes sense.

25.36- we create evidence to support our stories.

26.22- Stories are a big part of what we ruin our life over- hold a grudge, feels good to punish them.

29.06- GREAT PLace to do forgiveness work around parents, be completely free.

29.56- write your own story. Not allowing your lineage to limit us. Wild=negative connotation, disappointment, deemed bad.

31.16- Let’s find out who’s in our past, where can you free yourself up from a story you’ve made up about who you are in your family. Not in your lineage, maybe in a past life. Whatever we can do to support living as ourselves

31.49- Incredible timing since KK was craving this boost from her family.

32.37- KK’s new experiences have been based in ancestry, letting those stories support her. Accordion of time and space continuum- what is happening in which moment? Touching into an eternity of streak of gold in life that can carry her.

34.12- KK has hillbillies shooting up towns and KM’s has kings and queens, of course…

34.59- this is where shamanism is fun, can take you back into your lineage in a way that you wouldn’t normally go & flood you with wild stories of your life.

35.24- After last week’s episode, a friend reached out to her- how great a mom she is, told her story of her mom; she’s responsible for her own happiness. Appreciate feedback from listeners and share their stories.

36.52- Beauty of living in the spiritual context of life: KK asked for support she needed last week and it showed up

37.57- doesn’t matter who it is or what it looks like.

38.19- don’t have to ask in the perfect way, say the perfect prayer, you are always supported. Point of spiritual life is a context you live in and you are supported just because.

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Ep32: The Invisible Feminine Rerun Nov 13, 2020

In episode 32, The gals discuss the disappearance of feminine energy in many partnerships and how divorce rates have soared to nearly 70%. The Gals are stepping out on a limb here and boldly suggesting that the divorce rate is due to the absence of the feminine.

Katherine suggests that because everyone is working (even stay at home mom’s have long lists of work to do), no one is holding the feminine energy in partnership anymore. Due to that, relationships have become a battle for resources, (time and money) and power between two masculine energies. While we fight, who is holding the spacious, energetic, patient and kind power of the feminine?

For those who are in the more masculine role in a working or stay at home arrangement, wouldn’t it be nice to come home from work welcomed by a joyful, dancing naked in the kitchen type of person rather than the cranky, bitch-ass, sweats wearing, mope? As both partners learn to honor the self-care needs and practices of the feminine, everyone can start living the life they’ve dreamed of! This is a good thing, right? So why does Krista joke that “We are all fucked?” Listen and find out.

Does the absence of the feminine sound like a joke or, as the gals ask, is it possibly THE First World Problem we are facing today?

As usual, Katherine and Krista are looking for the ultimate holy fuck! Listen as they dive into the mystery of “Where is the Invisible Feminine?” and wonder where the entry point is. The Gals decide not to beat around the bush… but perhaps, truer to themselves in their feminine energy, tickling around the bush is where this energy lies…

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S3 Ep16 Who's Swipin' Your Happiness? Nov 04, 2020

Who you lettin’ swipe your happy? Listen as the gals flirt around with this one!

Where does our Happy come from? Get silly.

KK- when everyone loves me, validates me, tells me I’m a good girl...but for a fleeting second and it needs to be said again & again. 1.48 It’s a trap in the crap.

2.03 Moments of happiness and people want to swipe it, don’t want you to be happy. 2.33 Often happy people piss people off. 2.57. Shh. it’s a secret with Mr. Delicious, don’t tell him! KM woke up one morning chirpy but Mr. Delicious woke up not that way.

4.20- People tune out, should tune in. Does other people’s comments on your happiness make you unhappy? 4.48 People don’t believe it. Have to be processing all the time. As SP, we’re telling you, you can choose happiness.

5.17- Actually Joy, bubbling up with an infectious feeling of loving your life. It’s a choice. 5.55 So many excuses to NOT be happy right now but we don’t have to feel heavy. 6.46 Who’s feeling the love these days? Not just Love of the Heart- Abundance, Joy, Passion, Gratitude. 8.06- KK has been looking back at family upbringing and realized the idea of Happiness isn’t a prevalent one. She feels pulled back from Happy when she gets close to it. 8.55 People around her aren’t necessarily on board. 9.16- Little cracks, seeping in, starts to believe others. 9.43- Are we allowed to NOT sacrifice our lives and go for what we want? Are we allowed to be happy when others aren’t?

10.34- wanting support in happiness from ex, family, kids and if she had all that there would be a big healing. 12.23- not that it’s needed, KK just wants it. She’s still going to show up how she shows up, in joy.

13.04 Can we be happy in spite of all the things. Do you compartmentalize your happy?

14- How do you flirt with it, work with it? First thought- shut them out, cut them out. As a way of protecting the Dream. 15.36 Something so incredibly precious and beautiful in experiencing shared joy. 16.03- Lift your vision- you already have a circle of guides/angels, spiritual beings who are always on your team. 16.43- Let her earth family have their own experience. 17.29- we learn alot from the people who don’t support us.

18.20- Let’s just talk about the decision KK needs to make! Feeling called to move to Bali, exciting opportunities, Mr. RHRN will be there, amazing community. 19.10- Massive life change could happen, led by heart & joy, could be unlike any other thing she’s ever done in her life but was getting pushback, pullback. Kids are great & supportive.

21.04 How do we stay in our loving and happy place when the shit is hitting the fan and splattering the walls. Can we accept who they are while we’re accepting where they are?

22.55 choices come from fear or from love. Challenge KM all day long, she doesn’t care.

25.14 KM to KK what a huge opportunity for learning you’ve gifted yourself!

26.28- there’s a middle ground- not about hiding our secrets but about holding something and nurturing it til we’re secure enough inside us and with our community.

27.27- “Don’t harsh my mellow” KM saying from the 70s. 28.43- can we let go of them from a place of seeing them as whole, seeing them as purely accepting who they are in their truth and it doesn’t have to change anything for you. then go out and find people who support us.

29.11- Mr. RHRN is always supporting her and tells her to go for it. 31.23- Well behaved women rarely make history or never make history. KK moving is somehow deemed as she’s not behaving. 32.40- safer when we follow the rules. But not interested in following the rules, interested in being happy. `34.06- cannot let other people define our happiness. What blows our skirt up? What makes us feel like “wow, what was that” and then going for it.

37.23 when we do something to appease someone with an agenda, we destroy our happiness. How often have we catered to someone else, made sacrifices at the expense of our own happiness? 38.44 We never really know what’s at play, what Spirit has in store, just have to follow the thread of happiness. Sometimes you have to cut the thread if others aren’t on it with you. 39.59 Flip side- how are we trying to swipe someone else’s happy? Pull someone down, keep someone small, not support somebody because they’re afraid of the outcome.

40.53- David Whyte- the world was made to be free in. 41.20- we scare other people and it’s okay. We can acknowledge others’ fears and still do what we were going to do. 42.01- all that matters is how committed we are to our own happiness. 42.33 2 ways to look at the decision- destroy relationship with everyone around KK or it’s going to make it even more rich.

43.56- Classic 1st chakra stuff- presented w/ beliefs systems of history/past/heredity. Most elevated way to be in your 1st chakra is to chose the ones that work and chose the ones that don’t. Move on and love everyone in the process.

45.03- KK doesn’t have the answers, turns to Spirit everyday to be aligned.

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S3 Ep15 Get Off Oct 28, 2020

Are you tired of the merry-go-round of working on your relationship? Listen as the Two Gals explore when you decide to Get Off!

.51- KK has two words for us. What are they? Surprise Topic Episode. KM’s down for it, even if she squirmed in her pants. What kind of a surprise?

1.32- working vs. healing in your relationship or KM’s version working on your relationship vs. healing in your partnership. But that’s more than two words. KM is trying to Get Off… the MGR. (Turn me right round baby, right round)

2.34 vs. puts the idea of againstness, not really what they’re going for as spiritual psychologists. Building on the work in the relationship so they can heal. 3.08- anyone out there goes around the MGR of the same issues again and again. Dizziness, puking, churns up that 3rd Chakra. KK-last 2 relationships were really WORK. But she put her head down, bc they’re here teachers, etc. What kind of work was she really doing? What playground equipment was she working with? Usually likes stick ball but not while she’s on the MGR. Visuals galore!

5.07- MGR of working on your relationship is nothing gets resolved. 5.32. Idea is to Get Off the ‘work” and into the healing, comes from adding in the ability to widen the scope of possibilities.

6.23- exhaustion of being a good person, working on the relationship, not wanting to give up/get rid of, taking responsibility. It’s endless. 6.51- flying off (affair) and getting off (spiritual experience). 7.24- trying hard to keep it all together, continue to work, give up OR get off by taking steps.

How many times do the Two Gals get off in this episode?

8.37- Get off by deciding to do something different. Circling the toilet bowl or flushing problems down the toilet, just brings those issues into your next relationship because we're still on the MGR.

9.15- what happens when you feel as if you’ve done the spiritual “work” and applied healing to it? Answer? KM You have to get off together! 9.52- KK did the work for her own healing and Spirit said to step away.

10.33 When we go from the MGR to accessing spiritual healing, everything changes. We can relate to each other. We drop our ego defenses. 11.13- KM feels like she and Mr. Delicious Got Off together a lot but then they’d get back on, sometimes solo.

11.53- MGR meaning when you’re trying to blame your partner and instead begin looking at our part, our history, trying to own it, work through your own stuff. 12.24- getting shoved off/jumping off the MGR hurts, it’s painful. But if you make the choice, you have the whole playground at your fingertips.

13.04- Mr. D & KM noticed he had a flight pattern, to jump off and leave the playground. Leaving KM to go round and round and up and down on her own. KM would eventually get off and do her own work and they’d come back to center. 14.03- spiritual approach, stepping beyond psych solution of bargaining or solving the problem, brought them to love and remembrance, true release. Psychological approach- sort of like beating each other up because we go back to the patterns, thinking it’s the other, making it harder to come back together. 15.49- Letting trauma run the show, the system looks at us as broken. Psychologically, it’s ego.

16.34- ACIM- concept of not looking at the problem, that’s ego. Playing to our small self- wounded. What if we stopped looking for the wounds? What if we started looking for the best/highest self. Instead we look at issues from a higher plane of love.

19.13- Spiritual approach starts with, “I know the person sitting in front of me has everything they need to solve this problem, they’re whole and they have their own spiritual connection that is whole. I don’t have to fix anything.” This is the playground of healing.

19.59- are we programmed to be bored with that approach? The falsehood of the trauma drama of the ego creates passion, excitement.

21.03- Hold the phone, there’s something better! Money back guarantee- Healing from the spiritual realm is way more satisfying, sexier, provocative, possible, and miraculous.

22.40- MGR back and forth of ego drama. Now, KK is making plans for the future. Not spending hours talking about drama.

24.02- KM book Power Coupling- couples bring ego power to the convo, can be repulsive/repelling. What we want to look at is how to be together in communion by sourcing Spirit.

25.04- only reality in Fear is anxiety, depression, overwhelm, protection, safety, survival, survival. Change the context from Ego-Fear-Survival to Love. Don’t look at the surface, we see the loving essence/Divinity. Look past what you’re looking at with your ego. 26.26- tapping into 6th chakra- intuition, third eye. Spiritual healing transforms relationship to partnership. Heal wounds together.

29.14- What out- we’re going Deeper, Deeper. Into the Spiritual. Problems aren’t created in our lifetime- in our lineage, ancestry, dna. In our brain. Not going to get away from reactions but it’s how we come to them.

32.11- the stories we create are around our wounds, it’s our stuff that we go into relationships with. It’s not the other’s story. 32.42- what if your partner doesn’t have that spiritual ability/connection. Mr. RHRN doesn’t talk in this kind of lingo. So if your partner isn’t “spiritual” you can still do the healing work. 33.41- The essence you bring will be healing, you show up and hold the deep container, allowing your partner to show up the same way. Even if your partner slips out of it, they can slide back in.

34.18- KM: we all have spiritual partners, we just don’t always know we’re being consciously spiritual. We are all born with this innate ability. 34.52- open a space to look at your partner with innocence & vulnerability, being one and together.

36.37- when we tap into this, we can soften into the sweetness of someone’s divine essence.

40.15- If someone’s “working” on their relationship, is it a MUST that they move it into the healing? Do they have to go into the healing work? OR is it okay to draw the boundary and I’m done with this relationship? Yes, both are okay when it’s the best protection for you. For KK, that was Rico Suave. Just wasn’t safe to go to the next healing level.

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S3 Ep14 Bringing God to Work Oct 21, 2020

Should you give a HF about your business? Listen as the Gals explore bringing God to work.

Keepin it calm (or are they), not earth shaking, but how about some bed shaking with Mr. Delicious?

1.33- amazing exp of bringing God/Spirit/prayer to work with us. “Bring God to Work Day!” Confident about bringing God to our relationships but not really inc our spiritual life into our work, to get fabulous results.

2.25- All about Love & sex but what about business? Both gals upleveling business right now and need new capacity there.

3.17- KK had to take a look at what was staring her down. For her launch, Draw upon skills, faith, deep connection w/ God to get through challenging moments in biz. KM - for her it’s how she’s interacting w/ people in biz, spiritual principles have to be impeccable. Ego cannot take a front seat. Draw on compassion and kindness.

4.50- CSO- Chief Spiritual Officer (integrity & culture of the company is dependent on KM) in a new company that’s developing. CAme to KM in meditation, just like HFP did, 5 years ago. Now she has the momentum and decided to go for it!

5.56- Rev. M Beckwith- “You have to grow into something, or else you’d already have it.”

6.22- 3-4 months she’s been working on a project and really had to draw on faith, presence & deepest aspects of her highest self into her so that she can hold space for the company as CSO. Taking what she does in client sessions but bringing it into the culture of the company.

7.03- KK did a talk at a chamber of commerce; saged the room, invoked Spirit & called in the light, taking them on a powerful business journey w/ Spirit. Everyone really dropped into it. Really powerful experience. Walking into this old school business environment, “Father, Mother, God…” 8.31- Just by bringing God into the environment changed the entire meeting, people reacted differently with one another, like a portal opened up. 8.44- KM does similar things as CSO. Have to remind ourselves that there is no such thing as time and space, we’re all in the same room together (even if on a Zoom/web call).

9.43- essentially in a boardroom to call in calming space, looks for fear in the room, draws on infinite tendrils of her highest self- manage others egos, sometimes her own, other’s fear.

10.46- Madame Equanimity- gets to look at what’s going on underneath. Kinda like pulling out the weeds to keep the vision of the company clear.

11.50- working with people in a way that allows them to work through their patterns & habits in a way that supports their growth.

12.51- Actually much easier than the adages: “Push through your fear! Smash through it! Do it anyway! Overcome…” They just want to be of service in their lives/biz. 13.13- when you call in this essence, it connects you to any being/anyone else in that same mind frame, something more than yourself.

14.10- KK power for her recent launch came from her tools, a clean container (limiting self beliefs, hurts, patterns, habits), which her mentor said is really special. Had tools to move through the crunchy bits & crash through her glass ceiling. 15.24-These tools are so powerful in a biz sense, and can change the culture of biz.

16.33- If the biz owner has an abundant mindset, how would that impact bonuses, income, growth. How would it look if a biz owner worked through blocks around money?

17.11- KM holds space to help staff see their power, where they are getting slowed down, and what works one week may not work the next. Great practice in non-attachment. 17.40- Actually has no control- mirroring what the two gals have been working on in their partnerships. Next Level… Business 18.25- Same patterns in your relationships will follow you into the boardroom. Pulling off layers, exposing wounds,

Expansive compassion in a business setting now that they’ve matured and grown into the ability to hold for themselves, partnerships, where they’re manipulating, to just notice their reactions.

20.07- Breathe, wait, listen for heart rate to slow, before reacting. Everyone needs these tools if they’re wanting to respond favorably in their workspace. 21.32- what we need as humans to heal is to be vulnerable, which is the opposite of what we’ve learned to bring into a business.

21.56- Skills we can practice but until we do the deep spiritual work, you won’t get the full benefit. 22.19- find someone who can help you see where the block is, what scares you, what are your patterns.

23.03- Beauty of healing work is a deep settling into our common beingness as humans- healing works on both sides. The person in the boardroom was healed but KM feels like she also did too.

24.30- Race for the victim position- as Katie Hendricks calls it. 24.40-KK- feels like KM is being very humble and not acknowledging her own growth and work over the last 15 years which was the catalyst to open the healing portal. Nothing more satisfying than loving someone in a way that they feel cared for and seen. 25.20- in a biz setting, trial by fire bc of what we think we “should” be like in business. 25.37- High jump metaphor-victorious feeling of sailing over the top- higher bar than KM has ever been to and healing is THAT much deeper. Spirit said “Go Deeper.”

26.55- KK: Can we all be brave enough to bring Love into biz? Marianne Williamson- mentor of KM’s; should we use the word “God?” Always playing with it, not up to playing small. TCIM spiritual basis/book/bible- “it’s all about what you want to talk about & the environment you’re in. just be sure you’re doing it for yourself because God has no ego about what name you call it.” Not going to have fire & brimstone rain down on you or have God smite you, still part of her brain in paradigm that God is a being in heaven. Blasphemy!

31.36- KK- noticed clients' use of Spirit/God/Universe is indicative of where one is on their journey, a different level of opening up to acceptance. KM- “God” is the most personal conversation, those middle of the night moments- the dark night of the ego, Robert Holden. Has a warmth about it for her, a different level of care/nurturing.

34.48- KM; being a Minister and navigating feelings around spirituality, what word to use (Goddess/She/It/Spirit/Universe…) is what set her up to be a CSO. 35.14- Most amazing thing about bringing God to work is the freedom to know who you are and that every other person is of that same essence. Every moment is created by God, so it can’t be wrong. 36.19- KK- it’s not my creation, it’s God’s creation. Things come through us, when we are in the presence of God, and it’s full of love. 37.51- KK (in writing her poetry book) realized what happens when we truly let God work through us, not that “I” created it. 38.10- we have within us a microcosm of the God/Universe/Spirit. You are not the wave, you are the ocean. Letting go of the physical body, can tap into the energy of people around you. 39.34- Realization that we are not in control, releases the fear and anxiety of controlling the “right” thing. Now imagine that brought into your business.

40.20- Burnout- can happen at any age- responsibility that we need to do everything, give more than we have to give, martyr, please, give, give, eventually you get something back. Instead of beautiful dance of divine masculine/feminine which never depletes us.

41.22- M. Williamson- Don’t forget that time responds to you. If you’re calling your days “busy” or “overwhelmed” take charge, bless your day, ask for openness and space.

45.02- what does it really mean to bring God to work? Before you get there, you prepare- pray/meditate, you become the ocean, you walk in as that beingness, and take it from that place and everything you do has magical/miraculous quality. Consistently. Inspiring yourself. Can sound woo-woo but asking for the divine intelligence to come out (of my thighs in the bedroom or the boardroom).

47.47- if you find you’re not capable of doing this on your own, the Two Gals are here in support of your journey. Reach out.

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S3 Ep13 I Love You But... Oct 14, 2020

Codependent or Intimate?

Listen and Find out!

1:11 Katherine’s coach says she is doing really well. Katherine’s breakdown led to she and Mr Delicous … looking pretty “endy” … and relationship stuff… is Sprit pressing Katherine down the tube?

2:15: Awareness of not taking care of herself. Too open to the experience of being abandoned… Krista pushes Katherine to be specific…

2:57: something happens…and one of us (possibly Mr. Delicious) …heads for the hills and well the other…Katherine present and coping and stable and staying no matter what’s happening …

3:43: it’s been a year? Who is more evolved? Is it more loving to stay or go? and what is the story that keeps being repeated… “he just wasn’t that into you” I am just not sure that you are the right person for me…. Is it just a place to go to for Mr. Delicious … to avoidant land…? And then Katherine would just hold space love him …

6:06 Anxiously attached Katherine is having a wobbly experience …. Mr. Delicious, I love you and I am here… or I love you, but I am leaving… Katherine is left being a bit sacrificing… a consistent solid place is missing. She was holding loving within for him but what was happening to her?

8:30 Patterns interplaying … and Katherine gets to the end of her rope …

9:30 Krista has been thinking that Katherine has been maturing into a deeper quieter love… but in fact, Katherine’s light has been dimming after a year in this process. Her juiciness was getting dried up! Instead of feeling the joy intimacy and hot sexuality… everyone was missing it.

10:35: Protection: Does Katherine Need Something? Or is she needy (read “dependent”) …

How did this sneak up on her? Her Loving did not supplant her need for herself to be protected. As the teacher of “not sacrificing” Katherine finds herself on the downside of her needs… and how that leads to suffering… resentment… needs and still whole?

13:31 Katherine gets to have her needs. She needs to know her partner has her back He’s not going to wobble …

14:15: Dependency: unwilling to say what you need. NOT EXPRESSING NEEDS Makes you Dependent …

15:05: Katherine’s sudden realization: (from a nightmare): she realized that she was going to absolutely say “I NEED YOUR PROTECTION.” Krista points out that Katherine was at the “All bets are off” moment. Either Mr. Delicious was going to show up and provide, or she was going to find someone who was going to provide this need for her.

16:32: Katherine was Investing in something that was dissolving. It wasn’t providing for her.

The coming together – moving apart pattern was too threatening for her. Katherine’s trust was deteriorating … could she trust her man? Or herself? Everything starts to shut down…

17:40 Katherine WAKES UP literally at the point of no return… I have needs and I must get them met … Krista points out … her man needs to be needed but not your neediness… holding space or spiritual bypass. Trying to be nice but are we giving ourselves up?

19:00 as soon as Katherine says what is true, what she needs, he responds … jumps in and what else happens?

19:30 for Mr. Delicious: the story of “you are not the one” dissolves. He steps up and in as he sees he is desired! …. INTIMACY is created!

20:15: Dependency and intimacy? How do you tell the difference between the two? Authentic whole feeling … Dependency stickiness … Katherine gets authentic… so intimate… the Truth the deepest truth that we do not to admit makes us vulnerable …

21:26: Energy released back into the partnership. Heroes can lead to co-dependency, but this was authentic… pure intimacy... from codependency there is no trust. No one is really risking.

22:30: Mr. Delicious needs sex and connection … getting honest in the moment. without a plan will share. Right this minute I am feeling…

23:00 intimacy where your body opens you feel that connection emotional connection… authentic and clear... and we ask for the thing we need and what needs to be delivered.

24:00 Krista finds herself connecting emotionally and then feels a sense of her physical response… right here right now… stopped the co-dependent pattern as he was always on the brink of losing it. “He’s going to leave” keeps us from telling the truth.

26:00: For a while it was okay… Katherine could be honest and open and hold space with love. But at some point, she … the last time they went through the cycle Katherine could not open again.

27:44 Trust was finally broken when Katherine had not protected and cared for herself. It looks like the breakup is coming.

28:50 INSTANT healing and opening to Love for both can heal everything. Katherine and MR Delicious and in a partnership again... for the first time in a long time… long term relationship things begin to slide. how long to do stay? But is it really about time?

30:00: once we catch ourselves OUT OF INTEGRITY… not honest about who we are. “I see that I hate how this is BUT I HAVE BEEN LYING about that to myself” ~ Katherine When this happens and we take full responsibility for ourselves and DON’T BLAME HIM … that is where freedom is.

31:30: Start doing HONEST CONVERSATIONS Start with you: I need, I feel I need, something feels ... I feel scared ... I need to feel Protected... I need to feel cared for in this way...
This was the relationship breaker: partnership maker: moving forward? Or not? Own the pattern... but the investment in the intimacy is really the best thing ...
33:49 Relationship with myself. This is the last time. I will go forward but only once more.
Krista: can you fully get over it? Are you going to recreate the same thing?
35:03 Intimacy: I need to give him space for fun and what he needs... in the past be in live with being in love... so then he has to Run...
38:30: Mr. D gets to say : I need and get that need met... as Katherine and Mr. D sort out that co-dependency is going to show if she doesn’t keep her word to herself. Krista invites Katherine into the idea of “I am the One” ...
39:00 INNER CHILD WORK: I’m not the one... both Krista and Katherine both relate but Krista resists...
40:14: As his partner Katherine can support him by reminding him to do things that really fill him up!
40:45 Intimacy is leading them into a deeper sense of partnership. What will this next phase bring? ….

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S3 Ep12 Boyfriend Sex: Hot or Not? Oct 07, 2020

Who’s been waiting on pins and needles to see how Krista is doing after last week’s episode?

2:03- did healing work beforehand to tell Mr. RHRN she was upset. If he could have only heard how really upset she was. As predicted, he was shocked at how she felt. Brings back of knowing our feelings and reactions are the mental stories in our head.

3:04- Kat- one of the basic tenets of partnership is that you see your partner as innocent, when things go crazy in your head. KK… rrriigghhtt. (insert snarky tone here).

4:28- 1st time they were apart and he came back with softened energy, realized deeper feelings, he’s deepening towards her but she hasn’t caught up to that belief yet.

5:53- KK, belief that you have to Get your kicks somewhere else when you’ve been with someone for a long time. But RHRN feels the opposite.

6:27- need some space to miss your partner. Coming back together is delicious, creates excitement and juiciness. But it’s what KK is most afraid of. Maybe he can move to another country for a month or two and not fall on the floor. MAYBE.

7:41-important component is trust. 8.09- trigger for KK bc of where they started out.

9:07- trusting vs. trustworthy. Have to earn trust. Maybe this is what creates the delicious, juicy bf sex. 10:26- RHRN, would say how he loved gf sex and it felt counterintuitive to his wanting an open relationship. He says it gets better with time. Like a fine wine. KK finally has dropped into believing him. 11.18- KK starts out the gate with an open heart RHRN is more guarded, mulling it over and slowly opens his heart. KK Nowhere left to go but down.

12.40- new exciting & wonderful . Something about a Minivan and New years? What’s that about?

13.24- KM feels safer and more loving with bf sex. How do you keep it more juicy AND more loving. Everything to do with being able to trust your partner. Biggest problems with Mr. Delicious and KM, have revolved around trust. 14.41- one day in Hawaii, really connected and amazing sex, until trust broke and then there was Trouble in Paradise- listen to it all episode in archives!

15.15- boils down to not trusting ourselves. If KK doesn’t believe BF sex can get better, gets boring. But is she creating it and then it IS boring and she starts looking elsewhere to do all the things she’s fearful that Mr. RHRN would do.

16.46- “Oh, he’s gonna get bored with me.” Immediate projection, the indicator of KK’s patterns.

17.18- Diff for KM- not sure sex gets boring but same issues around trust. When trouble happened, trusting and ability to stand up for herself went away. So she holds back could lead to boring sex.

18.50 KK needs to open to the possibility to have experience she (thinks) she wants but part of her that believes it can’t be true. Growth. Exploration. Juicy Sex. Little voice saying, “I don’t believe it.” Fine line of trusting our trustworthy intuition vs being open to trusting.

20.18- Juicy Sex= feel cared for. Relaxed. Express ourselves fully. Be deliciously entertained and entertaining.

21.27- KK needs to get to the “Can It Last” phase. KM- Who’s responsibility is “lasting” anyways? “They” have to keep making it hot + juicy.

Big pause-

22.29-What if it’s about building and growing the trust? Be in the world with this person, travel, nurture through not-so-fun things. 23.37- as RHRN revealed his feelings, slowly awakening, and KK could feel him + dropped into a new level of trusting what he was saying.

24.26- let go of expectation of it looking our/a certain way. More space to grow into. 24.57- KM and Mr. D finds it’s up to him to express his feelings and be ready to choose, not her dragging/forcing/manipulating.

25.59- Did the Gals find the Key to Juiciness?

26.19- Two Gals big proponents of opening their hearts and freedom. Big on working through blocks, old stories, limiting beliefs and thought patterns. This all helps US more than it helps THEM.

27.36- we put conditionings on what the form looks like when the love/care/thoughtfulness comes to us.

28.39- the back & forth, the in & out, the flowing, the growing. Wait are we talking about sex again - play the edge of our trusting & depth of intimacy. 29.02- can go to all kinds of places, admit everything, show everything.

29.53- KK is noticing a part inside of her starting to awaken. Opening up & finding her voice in the world. You’ll have to listen to find out which part!

30.57- KK past relationships where it wasn’t okay for her to have a voice, vocalize, communicate. 32.32- releasing control, becoming vulnerable, feeling safe enough, and both partners need to be trusting and trustworthy.

33.01- You’re definitely going to want to ride this one all the way to the end as the Two Gals talk about chakras, kundalini, tantra, animal energy, pounding it out, poking holes, and (of course) SEX! 34.12- fully awakening our entire energetic system, our connection to the Divine again.

35.19- heart, vulnerability, intuition, compassion

35.52- Girls get to the bottom of the issue.

39.53- invested in keeping it juicy, squeezing the juice, tickling the taint, and not repeating patterns.

Listen as the gals explore what it takes to keep things juicy!

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S3 Ep11 Tempted to Freak Sep 23, 2020

Have you ever been tempted to do something you’ll really regret? Yet secretly hoping someone will save you from yourself?

Which one of the gals is in trouble NOW! HELP! I need somebody, HELP! TGSS is in session!!!

1:21- Hello, Repeat Pattern my old friend. Lather, rinse repeat. KK trying to not repeat the pattern with Mr. RHRN when he “ghosts” or goes too long between texts. KK gets all murdery.

But hasn’t just yet. In her body waiting to come out.

Episode with the party ___________

3:03 RHRN is out of town, spending a lot of time together since Shut Down. Feels good + safe, always reconnect time at night. Only 4 nights they haven’t been together, KK figures out it’s because she has her little freak outs.

4:39- Feels separate, abandoned. The silence brings a story to the surface- “I’m not important enough.” 5:49- got all cute and vulnerable in a text and then… crickets. Nothing all night or in the morning. The Genie was released from the bottle.

6.24- Here’s the story… phone’s in his hand or nearby, he can talk to his friend but not me…

One way or another he “steps away” and instead of thinking he’s busy, it’s the deep story having to do with value, abandonment...which one is it for KK

7.36- Now 2-3 days later and still nada. In his mind, he’s not even thinking about it, just enjoying his space, coming back hot + juicy for each other. KK needs little check-ins.

8:30- Oh, who’s got his time, his attention.

9:12- Did you make an agreement ahead of time to let him know what you needed? KK well, very soft agreement. 9:56- Jokingly before he left, “Oh, you need me to check in with you a lot while I’m gone.” kind of gave KK the impression that he got it and now it just feels purposeful and intentional.

11:09- You don’t care enough about me to pay attention. Many of us women have this and the men in our lives get the other side. Could he be getting a psychic message through the ethers?

11:53- LIGHT BULB MOMENT- He sort of likes it when she gets a little mad at him. HIs need for tension to create drama and have a sexy coming back together? She’s not the only one in this dance, he knows it’s a button.

12.57- KM reminds KK that this pattern has been with RS, and probably other people in her life. OH MAN! Belief established long ago. When we get triggered- FFFF

What’s KK's response? Ima fuckin kill you. FIGHT. KK recalls her dad and how he didn’t check in and when he did it felt fake. 14.48- Too upset to talk to him and wouldn’t talk to him as a punishment. Still has this same pattern with her dad but not the charge anymore. Pattern anyone?

15.46- but what if RHRN likes the punishment? That’s a whole other episode.

17.03- What does KK need to do so she doesn’t claw RHRN’s eyes out when he’s back?

Breathe. Take a break.

18.11- Little seed is still there, though she’s healing the reactivity with her dad. Inner- pay attn to little wounded one and her story.

So far so good… do you think she steps off the cliff?

19.44- reparenting the part of us that’s hurting. That little girl is important and valuable, way more important than a one second text. Story isn’t true. (Feels!) KK understands and loves her very much.

20.54- not let the little frantic inner one take over, she doesn’t have to punish anyone. There’s another way to handle the situation. Little One felt like she had to yell really loud or go really silent for someone to notice she’s hurting. 21.41- KK not willing to do regular things to reach out, Little One is running the story so much. Dancing harder on stage to see how good she is. KK doesn’t want to have to dance. Show up without having to beg/ask for it. 22.54 Feel like she’s put first. Begging feels gross. 23.28 KK Like asking someone to give you a birthday present without them doing it on their own. KA- Ah, but that’s not where I went so maybe that’s another touchstone for KK to pay attention to.

23.52- Gals pre-podcast and weren’t getting anywhere with solutions so they decided to do it IRL with you. 24.21- cyclical with menstrual cycle when she wants to be nurtured.

25.12- crushing neediness- 25 days so into you and those other days actually repelled. KK expresses need by pulling/pressuring- she thinks to ask for it or when she’s mentioned it before/asked for what she needs but they’ve stayed away. In Big Kid relationships we don’t just ask for what we want and get it…

27.00- choice point- pattern happening, communicating it but not getting what you need. You need to take action on your own behalf so you don’t jump, to invite them to get closer? Will she text right now? 28.33- Needs to do her healing work first before he responds, already operating. Clear neediness, expectations, any other gunk.

29.29- KA- how to communicate when it’s been a couple days and energy is still building. Make space for a partner to have life outside of you to have dignity in his process. 30.42- ask for what you really want when creating an (future) agreement. 31.10- deal conversation- respected for who you both are- KK doesn’t have to give up that she needs more contact just because it’s not easy for him and RHRN doesn’t have to give up that he’s going to remember just because it’s what KK wants.

31.49- Side comments are shaky, twisty, little traps- not agreements.

32.11- a friend brought up a cultural difference how “lying” is treated and that played into all of her fears. Rabbit Hole. 33.10- Power is found in the responsibility you have in the creation of a story. Buy into the misbelief.

33.31- People we love will fulfill what we need because they love us or we’ll make a new decision if they’re not capable. Needs to be room for both people to get what they need, may not look exactly like what she wants. KK- whatever, still not there. Feels like they’ve had this conversation enough times for him to really know what she needs.

34.46- KK feels if she can’t do this over a week, no way she can do this long term. (He’s probably moving out of the country in 2-3 months).

35.55- Try on a different idea- what if this nonchalant agreement sets it up for this pattern to keep happening? If she got really clear about her needs being as important as his and her responsibility to give herself what she needs, would she be willing to create a set of agreements that they create together?

36.18- Even the word “remind” brings up a story. KK- I shouldn’t have to remind someone I’m alive. 37.05- KM- Loving ourselves enough to ask for EXACTLY what we need so we don’t end up in these lack situations inside of us. Building expectations when we don’t firm up agreements.

37.39- KK- Fear in making an agreement he will say yes but not fulfill it. So how can she support herself? KM- If this person can’t show up and give you what you need, what is he actually telling you? KK- He doesn’t care enough.

39.10- when you make a strong agreement and the other can see how important it is, really understands it, they can respond in a way that surprises us.

39.58- KK Doesn’t feel like he’s constitutionally capable to check in, he wants to disappear/be off the grid. Not about getting an agreement but about the work she needs to do to change the story.

41.31- Face the truth of him (maybe) not being her person or what does he need to show up for her in this way? We THINK we know the answer but we just don’t.

42.37- hypothetical convo-

KK “I don’t know how this is going to happen but I need this level of contact with you.

RHRN “I don’t know how I’m going to do that?

KK- “Well, what do you need? “

RHRN- (Blow jobs) JK.

43.44- Byron Katie- Don’t pretend to be further along than you are. Be who you are today.

We will see!

44.12- The only thing KK is committing to is to text him after the show and not have it be hate filled. Authentically tell him what’s going on, after she’s done some healing work to soften the energy. Doing it differently already! Getting ahead of the drama.

We’ll see what happens, less cleanup?

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S3 Ep10 Does Your No Stick? Sep 16, 2020

Whether the bedroom or the boardroom do you hold true to your “no” when the pressure is on?

1.05- What’s Kat got cooking? That moment when a friend calls and you think everything’s okay and then, blah-Cartwheels out of her mouth. Cranky, life doesn’t fit. Couldn’t put her finger on it. Everything felt uncomfortable.

2.07- frustration around trying to create boundaries to take care of self. Boundaries within herself, not with someone else. 3.08- had a hard time holding her boundaries with a friend and then she just caved. How do you respond? Say okay? Bring it up in the moment, “did you NOT hear me say NO?”

4.14- oh tricky spot of people please /sacrificing. Kat was on the edge. The edge was when the person came back, even though she said no, and disregarded her no.

5.26- what if it was Man who doesn’t deserve a name? Rico Suave? Kris said no to both of them and yet they still reach out every couple months. Such a NO, don’t bother. Old Krista would have ppl please- indulge conversation, be nice. Is the universe testing her? Still keeps saying.

6.53- Alison Armstrong- sometimes have to up the pressure you bring. Nothing to do with anyone else. Is my NO really solid. Universe saying, are you really going to take care of yourself? No prob saying no to something/someone she doesn’t want to engage in.

8.01- How clear is your NO? Women get steamrolled over in the sweetness of saying No. How to turn that into a stronger, more powerful No. so that person gets it.

8.26 not coming off forceful or like an angry bitch. Can you stand in your power?

9.22- aa. Stand in the center of ourselves and come from a place with a deeper sense of self-commitment, that’s the pressure.

If the boundary was strong enough, Pressure wouldn’t push on us. More of a soft boundary.

10.11- wobble in our NO, then it turns to maybe Yes.

10.36- moment you can feel when the energy changes inside of you.

11.16- not talking about sex, though we know at one point or another we’ve all said no in the bedroom and didn’t mean it.

11.30 Landmark- whatever you do in one part of your life is what you do everywhere. Looking at it through the lens of self-empowerment through our No.

11.57- felt like a doormat all week. Gave her no away, a power leakage.

12.33- people don’t actually hear you’re serious the first time because they're self-serving. But if your boundary is really solid, it goes back as an echo. When we’re smooshy and permeable, it doesn’t have the force to receive it as a clear no. Receive it as a maybe and still get their way.

14.16- Should I sacrifice myself for THIS? Are you saying no to things that you’re not serious about? When you cave, you’re telling yourself that your needs are less important than other people in your life.

15.29- Why is that? Especially if it shows up in many areas of your life? 16.12- what is it underneath? Why is this happening? Somewhere inside of her telling her the story that she doesn’t need to take care of herself as much as she’s trying to take care of someone else.

17.07-bottom line- devaluing our own self/needs/wants. Become perpetrator to self.

17.53- not going back into regret, what could Kat have done differently? Perplexed.

18.38- in theory, No means No but in reality sometimes you need to explain why.

19.47- Kat had 5 situations- moment of choice when she says No, she wobbles.

20.18- willing to let her need to do a good job for clients for not being solid in her No.

21.17- consequence is her whole life shuts down. Way we tell ourselves these things really matters.

22.34- Then there’s the person trying to get their yes, what can you do to heal the pattern? Where did you push someone to get your way and say yes? Where am I doing this in my own life

23.38- ooh tell me more. Kat realized she was manipulating herself. Invalidated her no, convinced herself why she didn’t need the boundary. No one can do it to you without your permission.

25.03- when we do this to other people, we lose as well. Do this in relationship negotiations so everyone gets needs met.

26.11- Women are wired to please, instinctually for survival. But when you’re trying to live into a divine life, you can’t continue to give yourself up to people who have an agenda. Leaves you with a life of lack.

27.24- Kat went back to “fix” and take her power back.

27.58- don’t worry, you can martyr me. Started with some loss of confidence within her.

Katie Hendricks- will often say, what happened just before? Where did you take a little self-esteem hit?

29.33- in any new relationship, always pushing up against someone’s edges. Minute you say yes when you mean no, other person notices when they can get their way. It snowballs from there. 1. You’re gonna lose the partnership one way or another. 2. Lose yourself, stay in position, building a lifetime of martyrdom with someone who knows they can get their way.

Until you speak your truth and walk out one day.

30.49- is relationship/job worth it when they take advantage of you or you allowed them to take advantage>

31.42- most humbling part of it all is realization that she did it to herself. 31.58 Gave up everything even though it wouldn’t work for her.

32.17- you have a moment to go back and course-correct. Don’t be afraid to go and undo the situation or feel hopeless. Suck it up to learning lessons.

33.06- won’t be resentful but grateful for the lesson to learn to not do it again.

33.45- when you hold for yourself, the next opportunity meets you where you are. Get confused in the indecision- supposed to happen to me or that’s my healing (happens often in the spiritual realm). Surrender to spirit’s plan. Happened five times! Moved from personal to business situations. Little hiccups when stakes are low and outcomes are manageable. AS opposed to what would happen in the business situation with financial repercussions.

35.08- Message of spirit: Every single one of us is as valuable as the other. Non-negotiable.

36.47- Suggesting that you are clear on what you need first. Was your No heard? How many times did you have to say it before it’s heard? How good is your No skill?

37.08- Are you the Wall or are you Permeable? Doesn’t have to be a mean wall. Season for everything. Time for discussion. Time for permeability. 37.44- what are you bargaining yourself away for? Tune into the nuances of the no. why would you give up your No, once you’ve said no? You know better when you know better. Holding the line to hold the line or to prove a point but could maybe switch things

38.16- pay attention to when you say no, mean no, and still give it up.

Inviting you to have a stronger, clearer, more depth in your NO.

When it comes from a loving place, no resentment, sliding into yes later.

38.38- In saying a nice clear no, you’re getting better at spreading your love.

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S3 Ep9 How Bad Is Your Bad Boy? Sep 09, 2020

Bad. Dishonorable & Clinically Ill

Hot, Hot, Hot and using their powers for good.

When Krista is hot, she has to remove things. Strip Poker on the Podcast?

Just a little tease…

Are you bad to the bone? How bad is bad and what kind of bad when we say bad to the bone. Living on the Edge

2.01- “There’s no good men out there”. Really? Two Gals don’t believe it.

“All men are narcissists” Not really, just because they put themselves first doesn’t make them narcissist. Everyone has narcissistic tendencies and then there’s the clinical diagnosis. Krista ponders needing to have these qualities because she is a public figure- confidence, clarity, and courage are different

3.57 What is clinically unhealthy? What is dysfunctional/dishonorable? What is sexy, dark night, wild? 4.40- big loves of Krista’s life have had an element of dark knight- super sexy, edgy, but not clinical. Well… maybe one. Borders unhealthy

5.36- BDSM- one of those grey areas. But difference is care you take for each other and rules to follow. Play acting, fantasy- no space for unhealthy/clinically. Lines are clear, so broken rules would show up faster. The crazy shows up faster. The container keeps it safe but we don’t go into the same container in relationships.

7.21- We navigate this territory when in relationships. Have to discern darker territories and feel if it’s just darker territory, are we intrigued or scared? Discernment in women is key and we need to be aware, especially when man is manipulating and using power against someone.

9 ½ weeks- makes the woman crawl across the carpet, has to be degraded and he enjoys it.

Times in Krista’s life when self esteem was so low, she’d have crawled across the floor. But the healing happens and you realize, I’m not crawling across the floor for some fucking ring. Self-respect, worth more.

9.23- Unhealthy/clinically ill- someone who will make you feel safe and then take power and use it over you. Yes, healing needs to happen. But we also have to be careful because we can be carried into scenarios and not realize it.

Calculated bad boy vs. dark knight

10.31- One relationship for Krista was about 5 years ago “yea but in the beginning…” said the right things, felt safe, stayed longer bc she returned to the times when she felt safe.

11.53- do what you can to save the relationship, despite having your face on the floor. you have to be able to tell the person and your comm how you feel. Important to be authentic.

13.01- could see the enjoyment behind his behaviors and Krista was hiding from Katherine about how she was feeling and the situation she was in. She was met by her partner where she was in her healing, hadn’t built herself back up yet. Now, she wouldn’t even see them or have access to them.

13.43- Katherine noticed the tendency to fall silent at the moment when she needed her community the most. 15.13 She felt as though she needed to stay to keep everyone safe. How it was okay to sacrifice herself but not okay to sacrifice others. No matter what story is, it’s not okay/never give up self worth, self value for whatever someone holds over you. Katherine calls bullshit on it!

17.36- Krista got to the I don’t give a fuck point, didn’t matter what “he” would do with what he held over her. Had grown so much and pulled her power back.
Katherine not only was she worried for herself but other people.

18.11 The only thing that matters is that we don’t fall silent. We need to speak up to everyone in our lives.

19.22- not saying women are off the hook. Katherine has been dishonorable, been bad to the bone. It’s about awareness of if someone is getting off on hurting/manip someone.

20.29- is it just a cut or an oozing, deadly disease? Discernment is the key factor.

22.18-The Man with No Name- clinical side, scared + protecting others. Physically, emotional, hiding. Purposely tried to keep from friends.

Golden Eyes- pushing into unhealthy/dishonorable. Was just starting the podcast, more willing to step into her authenticity but didn’t disappear. He said your friends are bad for you, kept her distant from friends.

RHRN- dark knight energy. No energy around hiding, keeping her away from friends.

Shades of mentally clinically ill to bad to dishonorable.

24.24- Alison Armstrong- so many women characterize men as dark, throw around “narcissist” “dishonorable is a changing state.” Not what you aspire to but washes over you when you’re full of fear. He can live on the edge but still keeps his word or he can fall in and out of whether or not he keeps his word or he doesn’t care about keeping his word, makes you feel like you aren’t capable of being safe. Bargain with the devil.

27.16- You get to the “come to Jesus moment” no matter what world, lawyers, anyone is saying only you and God know the truth.

27.42- Krista has an AHa moment! After she broke up with him, to get back at her, he told her ex-husband every secret he had on her. When Krista found out, there was a pressure release for not having to carry the secret anymore. Worst Nightmare= Greatest Gift= Complete Freedom

30.03- smart ways to care for yourself if in an unsafe situation. Always tell your people.

31.49- don’t be afraid to check it out if you think he’s clinically ill but don’t get held up with it. Some are just dishonorable. 32.12- Maybe you’ve dismantled his ball structure. Duh, duh, duh!

32.31- what is the level of fear you have when they walk in the door? Notice your body. Feel into what’s happening. Be curious why you respond in that way. Get authentic, talk.

35.24- watch for the energy of dependency, different from being connected.

RHRN, stepping into a better version of self. Only reason she’s not getting out of bed is his sexy.

TMWNN- couldn’t get out of bed

GE- trying to get out of bed but was a Sisyphean act

36.18- One who shall not be named- Katherine

Mr. Delicious- always challenging each other to be more ourselves, more committed/loving/empowered to selves and can sometimes create friction. Not fireworks or drama but an intensity of settling in more deeply to who they are as a human.

37.48- Partnerships grow. Can question what’s going on but in a healthy way. Can’t judge someone because you don’t know what their level of capacity is. Listen with your heart.

40.03- As a friend, it's harder to support someone if they’re not being open and honest. IF we don’t listen deeply (or only disapprove) to our friends, we will silence them.

43.15- give everyone the dignity of their process. Space and time to realize what you need to take care of yourself.

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S3 Ep8 How Good Is Your Good Girl? Sep 02, 2020

Sugar & Spice & everything nice, that’s what good girls are made of.

Does being a good girl really get you what you want?

1.09- What does the empowered woman look like these days?

2.06- Why do we feel the need to pretend to be something we’re not? What do we think we’re going to get?

No man wants us to be the Virgin Mary. Old ancient instinctual behavior to be taken care of. Is that what we want or do we want to be empowered.

3.31- Keep my mouth shut, don’t speak up, get chores done- I’ll be a good girl.

Virgin/Whore- take us to a business party and present us as a beautiful wife, but jump their bones when we’re home.

4.15 Lady in the street but a freak in the bed. American culture that we’re supposed to be asexual in certain areas of our life but doesn’t match what we’re asked to be at home.

Boobalicious. Red stockings. Ferragamo. Powerful in her knowing of her beauty & strength. Not about being a rebel. 40 years later she’s still the same.

5.47- women who embody magnetic persona, super empowered but how did they get there?

Empowered decision making. Don’t give a fuck about what anyone else says, auth themselves, are who they are at all times. They’re pleasing themselves. No pretending.

7.08- can't make healthy decisions if you don’t know who you truly are. Can’t build the life you want. Want alive, juicy, fulfilled.

9.22- Social media jealousy/judgy, indicator you’re ready to step up into that space. When you get into action, things happen! Turned into inspiration.

11.02- sharing self with the world vs persona showing to the world.

11.23- 3rd season of HFP. Girls show up in a whole new way. Blossoming into whoever the fuck they want to be.

12.16- Krista’s come a long way baby! Started this pattern as a little girl. Tomboy, tough, beat up the boys. In front of teachers, perfect little girl. Depended on how safe/unsafe she felt and also who she wanted to please.

13.37- wake up one day and you’re 40 and who the fuck am I? Who’s running the show? Which parts to keep, which to ditch. Ended up in an integrated space.

15.04-Embodying bad girl swinging in and sprinkling in the spiritual and good girl and healing. More drama in the beginning days of HFP. Exhilarating but doesn’t get you what you want.

16.58- Truth telling is the hardest thing we can do. But first you have to figure out what your truth is. Are we willing to commit to what we want?

17.29- Empowered woman receives as much as she gives. If everyone is in Giver Mode, then no one is left to receive. “Better to give than receive.” Especially for women.

19.20 If we don’t give men what it takes to open us, then we can’t receive and they can’t give to us. No one gets what they want. Why keep pretending? 20.12- Don’t really know who we are. Trying on different personas.

20.41- Being loved by everyone is the booby prize. Left with not a single meaningful relationship. Only known 1” deep. When you’re pretending, you’re only giving the tip (of the iceberg, yourself).

22.14- Woman not fully able to release into orgasm because you don’t want to completely lose control. Katherine’s orgasm face. He’s not afraid to show us a minute later.

24.29- When we’re in a different place of healing, there’s no shame, guilt, actually pretty funny.

25.39- We’re ashamed to be ourselves. Shamed to fit in the mould, not rock the boat. Puts a lid on the opportunity to be a woman- sensual, coolest thing, feelings all over the place.

27.29 So busy playing the Good Girl but Secretly fantasizing 50 Shades of Gray. But if we’re pretending in our Puritan frocks, hiding from them, hiding from ourselves. Not like if they poke us in the right place and we’d open up.

28.28- Risky business/positions/ truth telling. Peeling layers back to find who we are to gain the confidence. Then we can really step into OUR LIFE- not what your mama wants, not what your husband or kids want. I just don’t give a fuck what anyone else thinks for the first time in her life. Give others permission to also not give a fuck.

Scares the hell out of her on a daily basis. Being deeply honest keeps us on a razor’s edge. When you feel something in a moment, hurt/sad/scared, totally own it as your feeling and then tell someone. Caveat- not blame on the Other, it’s yours.

32.12- Pretending robs others the opportunity of interacting with you from an authentic place. Ping Pong People Pleasing. No one speaks up. How did I get here? Life is truth. Truth is life.

First time you say “It’s okay” and it’s not okay, you’re lying to them and yourself. Resent grows and you fucking lose it. It’s deadening to the relationship.

Byron Katie- Don’t pretend you’re more evolved than you are.

Don’t pretend you’re not jealous, you’re not angry.

Own the feelings to get to the healing.

34.26- Pretending or People pleasing, operating from the Disempowered Woman.

This is who I am. This is what I want. This is what I’m going to do to get it.

Make a decision from our false self. Get a result. Make another decision from our false self. Get another result. All based on false self.

Don’t have to settle for Good Enough, you can live an Epic Life. The life YOU choose!

38.04- The Good Enough was everyone else’s Good Enough. Still haven't busted through our Mama’s 1950’s belief system yet.

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41.28- coming through to who you are, you get who you’re matched with. Friends, lovers.

43.24- we have to choose exactly what the life we want to live looks like, it’s that we’re coming into clarity and living what’s true for us every single day. Not blaming.

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S3 Ep7 Let's Make A Deal Aug 26, 2020

In Season 3, Ep. 7, Let’s Make a Deal!

Krista & Katherine tell us how they got what they really, really wanted. Or did they?

Sometimes what we really, really wanted or what we really, really needed and really, really couldn’t get wasn’t really, really what we thought it was at all. Really!

Just a little recap in case you missed Ep. 6:

Mr. Right Here, Right Now gave Krista what it was she really really needed... After six months and Krista allowing him to take the lead, their partnership has a totally different playful flavor!

Surprised? The Two Gals sure were! Mr. Right Here, Right Now is more of a freedom kinda guy, whereas Krista wanted to be the Queen Bee in the Kingdom of Monogamy. But was that what she really needed now?

So, what do you do when two people see different ways of living their lives but still love each other? They’re building a life together, buying groceries. You know, real world investments but where was the foundation?

Krista thought the big C would be the stabilizing factor but what was it? What finally lined up that created the foundation? There might still be uncertainty and triggers but with something solid to build bricks on top of, it sits differently for her. Even Mr. Right Here, Right Now is showing up differently after seeing she loved him enough to not take his “no” away. He still has his freedom but doesn’t seem to be actively seeking it as much!

But Krista’s not alone on the Let’s Make a Deal stage. Enter Mr. Delicious and Katherine!

They’re engaged? Are they engaged? Engaged? Are we? Diving deep into the abyss of cohabitating, working together, a son at home, and COVID-19. Oy! She was getting the words from Mr. Delicious and the actions would stick, intermittently, but something tended to kick its way to the surface. The see-saw of stability and instability was alive and well!

Where are they finding their way? Katherine and Mr. Delicious explore the opportunity in conflict where each person can find peace. It means being open to curiosity, flexibility, and staying present to find if what you need is right where you are or is it time to start loving from afar?

Making a deal; It’s all about the details. It’s about knowing yourself enough to get your needs met. Because loving yourself is the best way to be loved by another person.

The Two Gals had no idea when they were watching the TV game show Let’s Make a Deal, that they’d really be needing to Make a Deal! Even Mr. Right Here, Right Now and Mr. Delicious don’t know about the deals going on inside their heads!

Tune in to hear when the Two Gals gamble on the “hidden prizes” and if they turned out to be just what was needed or a whole lot more.

We love you… and,

As always, Spread the Love!

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S3 Ep6 Getting What You Really Really Want Aug 19, 2020

Compromise to make it go away?

Better today than yesterday. “Let’s give 'em something to talk about!”

1:04- Krista wishes she didn’t have to talk about it. Finding self doing things differently.

Growing up. Or maybe just growing. When we know better we do better. Moving through it more smoothly but not necessarily in the moment. Mr. RHRN and Krista navigate social gatherings being in an open relationship dynamic. Constant convo- is it open? Who’s going to get their way?

Freedom and space for him. Open relationship. Committed to her but if attracted or wants to have physical experience, should be able to do that. Feel safe and loved for Krista.

2:58- Krista feels differently, not comfortable with it yet.

Building life together. Open with flirty creative ideas. My man! Romantic notion.

Mr. RHRN- can never own someone

Alison Armstrong- until a woman feels safe, she doesn’t feel loved.

4:10- Growing pains around this situation. Got triggered when he “disappeared” at a party. Next time, checked in more but still disappeared. Still tend to have to clean up after the situation. Element of feeling like they’re not there together. Feelings of abandonment. Would like to enjoy romantic moments together.

5:50- Deep breaths. Expansion to be free and authentic. Kisses in the middle of conversation, important to her, even if not his normal tendency. Last party- felt really safe. Into me in public. Gives him lots of space. But was it too much for Krista’s comfort? RHRN giving a woman a massage & she was triggered & flipped out. Freak out!

8:11- Let go of fear and her “worst nightmare” happened. Set her off. So upset. In her not-so conscious mind, she said she was having a man over. Which she wasn’t but so hurt and angry needed to go for the jugular. When we stop feeling safe & loved, our survival system kicks into high gear. Kill or be killed. Caught HIM off-guard and walked off. She tried to make it better but he wasn’t having it. Was it the death of the relationship?

11:33- As time goes on, the stories inside us can grow into big monsters. As do we! So much fun. Snowball of an Orgy Story running through her mind. Finally fell asleep and woke to a text at 5am. Exhausted. Emotionally spent. Spent next 24 hours unpacking emotions and how they felt and what it meant. If we can’t separate yourself from the story and emotions, they end up driving the show. We either take the person down with him or they’re going down alone. Animal brain.

Fight/Flight/Freeze/Faint. Don’t have to use all four- can flip between them.

13:51- Initially Fight mode- don’t touch me mfer! Krista from the Block. Not playing this song again.

Flight- wanted to leave the party. Stepped back into loving to control how she reacted.

Couldn’t breathe, can’t go through this again.

15:11- How did we get here? I don’t have the answers.

Holy Spirit I surrender this to you, show me the way. In the moment of turning it over. Don’t need to hurt if walking away from it, just simply walk away. It’ll be okay no matter the outcome.

16:28- Forgiveness. Connect to our highest self. Fight/Flight/Freeze/Faint. Don’t have to use all four- can flip between them.

17:19- Heart wants what the heart wants but the mind, past trauma, and personal boundaries are challenged. Possibility of sacrificing can show up for many women.

Think you’ve moved out of fight but still in fix mode. Rather than reflection with higher self.

18:04- Katherine asks , “You could easily have done what? “

Rationalizing Brain- too much to drink, overreacting. It’s my fault, it’s no problem.

19:18- seduced into pleasing the other person. Turn it over to our higher self/Holy Spirit. But take it back.

His mind didn’t think it was a big deal. Not the behavior she wants. Doesn’t want to be policing him. Can’t relax at a party.

20:26- She wants to be the one watching the moon with her man.

Truth is there was probably some attraction between them.

21:03- Betrayal, people saw him, what were they thinking. Shame around it.

Set it up. We have a beautiful relationship, tell everyone, something happens.We’ve got this, we’re solid” I’m an idiot. Waste of time.

22:46- He thinks he’s given her enough to her emotional bank account to have certain freedoms.

But what isn’t being cared for? Cuddly at home, all is good. Then go out and bam. Possibility smacks her in the face.

23:48- Katherine asks? Who do you become in that space. What do you need to stay Krista, instead of Lunatic, Fuck YOu, I hate you, I don’t want you in my life, Get out.

25:12- Get even more aware of, what did you do differently? Didn’t give in but what exactly did you do? Held her line that she’s not the open relationship type of person. This isn’t who I am. To make you feel safe, do you need me to commit to you, I don’t want to lose you.

Old Krista- say yes, it would make me feel safe. This Krista- I don’t want you to commit to me because I’m asking you to. I want you to do it on your own.

27:07- About to sacrifice his own happiness. Instead, he got to decide where he wanted to take it. Desperately Seeking Commitment (Old Krista)

28:01- Desperately Seeking Future (RHRN)- says he’s never been happy. No synapse connection. Do what I want. Go where I want. Fuck whoever I want. That’s his idea of happiness. But he wasn’t even happy in those times. It’s the idea of it but never really real. Reprogram what happiness feels like. Neural pathways need shifting/evolving.

30:01- Are you willing to risk your relationship for yourself?

Each person can’t be true to themselves if that’s the case.

If I become okay with letting it all go, I will show up for myself.

Relationship > You = Sacrifice to your detriment = victimization

32:07- Come Hell or High water, you’re going to keep your commitment to me. I’ll do anything to keep you here. Make it work, no matter what. Doesn’t create beauty or healthy relationships.

Freedom. Clarity. Choices. BOOM!

33:52- I love us both so much, I’m not going to allow us to sacrifice for each other.

In giving him the choice, is the little hit worth what it destroys? He finally realized he was going to lose her, felt it really deep. Freedom gave him space to say “I Love You.” 6 months and haven’t gone there. Felt that way but never said it.

Minute we give it up to HS, it shifts the conversation.

37:46- She held back, sat back, and let time come when it felt natural, hoping he would be the one to say it first. Energy got clear. Put herself first. Found her way back.

Create the drama and ends up being a manipulation.

38:43- Let the man be the man and the declaration come from him. Trusted her intuition, what was inside their partnership. The intuition of the relationship itself.

Saying I Love You out of responsibility or obligation, not a free-flowing expression, it’s something that’s fabricated. Allowing him to be in the masculine.

39:56- Big moment from a strange place. Something opened, something deepened, so In Love feeling. Journey- giving him space to open his heart. Heart opens at these Wake Up moments to shake us to what’s important, what’s valuable, what serves us.

41:34- Same scenario could create a manipulation, grabbing hold from a place of loss, not a place of love. Minute rules come in, never works. Both people must be in complete integrity for themselves.

42:02- Pathway to partnership is both people being clear and coming together in the clarity to see if they fit. As opposed to enmeshment. Step into their own integrity, heart expansion, both can get what they need. No one is compromising in the moment. Still no answers. Feels like more clarity. A coming together. Solution out there somewhere, or in there somewhere. Communication. Clarity. Over Compromise. Freedom.

43:55- Teaser for another time. “Problems never resolve on the level of consciousness where they were created.” Einstein- When we invite ourselves into a higher consciousness, slowly negotiate what works for both to have needs met.

45:08- Sprinkles of Possibility. Willing to be Creative and Exploratory.

Creating from Partnership over creating from relationship.

Partnership, can be in processing for a while. Get really real. Space changes. Works perfectly.

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S3 Ep5 Sexless Aug 12, 2020

1:42. Fear of Commitment- (cue the scary music) Duh, duh, duh!

Fear is around change by myself or with someone else. “Normal” way of dealing is only one of two things. Stay the course or cut and run. But are commitments much more than that? Could they be fixed and/or fluid? What happens when one partner becomes debilitated, illness, or incapacitated?

As Spiritual Psychologists, the Two Gals are always asking what the lesson is.

Our caller is feeling like he’s stuck between two choices- stay or go. So, he’s staying and sacrificing.

Shame. Guilt.

What happens if needs aren’t being met and you seek solace outside of the relationship? Tormenting to endure something like this. What happens when there’s still so much love?

Horrible experience with the illness and then put oneself into horrible experience too.

5:42. Yes/No. Good/Bad. Stay/Go. Hard to justify leaving.

Partnership invites you to look at the situation differently. Creates many grey areas. What else could happen? Fear of abandonment, hurting someone,

6.24. Partnership is the key word. Care about someone else’s happiness as much as your own.

Long term relationships can be tough to move into partnership. Partnership requires involvement.

7.19 Cute part? INteresting? Partnership with self is your responsibility first and foremost before partnership with anyone else. We get caught up here. When love is in the picture, there’s a certain level of sacrifice. But does there have to be? Health & vitality diminishes. Can make you feel like a horrible person because you want to get out of this situation. Completely goes against societal norms.

9.43 Is making the sacrifice a service to the other person? Or is it a disservice. You can end up being depleted and not having anything left for anyone. Death of love. Not always an immediate consequence but can happen slowly over time.

11.12- Life changes. Things happen. What are the solutions? Short term or Long term?

Get clear on what each of you need. Alison Armstrong- we decide together what the solution is. Equanimity. No sacrifice on either side. Has to be balanced in order for the partnership to thrive.

Sacrifice because we love the Other but when we stop sacrificing we can stay in our loving and hold the container of partnership longer.

14.22 Self-sacrifice = depletion & resentment.

15.01- what happens when one says, “I can’t do this anymore. You can’t give me what I need and I can’t give you what you need.”

Soup slamming…

16.13 Fly away! Fill your needs. Let go of the ego worry of abandonment.

Beauty of partnership, don’t have to let go of the loving.

16.54- Desire for partnership. We thrive on connection as humans. If you continually pass up the opportunity for connection, how does that serve anyone?

17.26- Katherine gives him the low down- at a loss for words. That’s a first!

Remind him it doesn’t equal healthy living. Maybe she “stays sick” because it keeps the system in place. Not in a way that’s faking the illness but a need is getting met. That the caretaking needs to happen with Self first. Allow him to feel into fear. Conversation and transparency within the partnership will elevate the situation. What if change didn’t have to look like abandonment?

Resentment is a form of abandonment because you’ve pulled back your loving.

20.58 Partnership is about each person thriving, not about staying together.

Compassion. Kindness. Creativity come back into play.

Be curious to what solutions exist when you get out of this or that thinking.

Love comes back in!

Openness to new ideas.

What happens in the Poconos, stays in the Poconos!

23.37- requires full expression of love from one to the other to invite her into the conversation. Be open to novel solutions. Only work if both partners feel safe.

Something’s wrong. I need something different. This is what it is. Can we be creative?

Freak Out! I’m so (not) excited! Freedom!

25.06 Mr. Right Here Right Now- not a stay or go situation but still don’t know what the final solution will be. Stepping into what makes each other happy. My healing work continues and my heart stays really big. Can we just relax and let it unfold?

27.33 Ongoing with breath, heart, soul, and mind. An invitation to your partner to love you.

Regular relationships come from our instinctual need to be around people. But this doesn’t fit any mold. Need to surpass our instinct. Need to be highly vulnerable, present, intimate, and ask for what we need.

Spirituality that allows each human to be holy, whole, and sacred.

29.17 Override response and sit in my loving when flight/fight gets triggered. (Krista)

Easier to get angry, runaway, and bail. When I get quiet enough to hear him, I feel resonant.

I love you. I care about you. You’re important to me. AND there’s something I’m not getting.

Can you have the conversation and maintain through all the feels and still be there?

Both men and women.

33.00 Impossible to hold through someone’s upset when you’re upset.

Cultivate this through consistent meditation, breathwork, calming CNS, regular walks, taking care of you. If we really want a diff outcome, a great place to start is to visualize a different outcome.

Is Divorce really the only option? Lives get trashed. Is it necessary just because someone has another desire?

35.25 Partnership model isn’t “I need multiple partners, you say I need more excitement.” When we choose partnership, we remain open.

Partnership allows for change. A Relationship shuts it down. When you find yourself in relationship, how do we shift the narrative? In a gentle way. Change is the only constant.

Something can be presented in a way you never thought of before. Let go of the mental to tap into the spiritual. Rest your brain, use your mind. Visualize that you want peace, serenity, kindness, and love. Open the heart and let creative solutions flow through.

Happy & Free to be themselves.

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S3 Ep4 Girls Just Wanna Have Fun Aug 05, 2020

Listen Bitches!

Do you ever substitute drama for fun?

Girls wanna have fun? Katherine sure wants to have fun…finally! Krista says Katherine is done with the drama mama…

Coming from Krista, that’s pretty bold! Throw in a period and who’s laughing now?

Kat had a little drama and so HFing over it now. Bring out the wine and tequila! Bonus? Adult children can make drinks now! Thank you Covid.

Emeshed much? How much do your kids really know you? Just throw a pandemic in and then it’s no holds barred. Have you gotten caught having “fun?” Wanna guess which one of the Two Gals did?

2.53- Having fun in the boudoir… hours of fun. Collapsing in exhaustion and ecstasy and the door creeks open. In one of those slow motion movements, Mr. Right Here Right Now and I turn to see… want to guess?

Thank you, Universe. That is was the Basking in the After Glow, best moment to be caught having sex, by your kids. I wonder what my son is thinking…

4.34- The Two Gals preparing for podcast. Covid19 alert on phones. Shifted energy into a celebration that we are not going to invest in the drama of the Great Outside. Pay no attention to the voices behind the curtain! Pushed through the reactivity to stop the fun and lean into the drama and leaned into the FUN instead!

Adrenaline kicks in and can sometimes feel “fun.” Nothing really “good” happening. Not going to bury our heads but just not going to freak out. Take a beat and breathe.

Where’s the fun been? Hard to give permission to have fun- serious issues in culture, health system. Who are we to be having fun?

Adrenaline is not the same as fun. American culture walks around depleted from life because we’re surrounded by adrenaline and the high it creates. Survival/Ego based. Temporary state.

Sustained fun, joy-filled THAT’S FUN!

With all that’s going on societally, it’s common to be shamed for having fun right now. How do we get that hit, that fix, if we can’t express our fun? Buy into the drama.

10.34- Is it okay to be living the good life now? Krista turns to her spirituality. In our resonance with God, we are here to be happy in honor of God. Be joyful, be happy, be creative, be loving. That’s God!

We can feel all that is going on AND be in our joy. We don’t have to step out of it.

Universal Beingness, that is God, is who we are.

11.59 Think about watching kids play. They’re just carefree, fully involved in the fun itself. We get to do the same thing, despite the pressure on us.

12.30 Want to know what Katherine postulates?

Highest spiritual attainment is joy. Joy exists in most intensely painful moments, at times.

Beauty in the release of pain but still joyful for the expression of God found in that moment.

Fun is slightly different but full of joy.

Have to have joy before fun. Have to embody it.

13.35- Krista realized a couple years ago that she’d never had fun unless it was from an activity. Crafted moments of happiness. Not generated from inside.

Common denominator is connection. Being connected to who we are with, ourselves, and the divinity that we are. Start with connection to divinity? Gals might not agree on this. Ah the mysteries of life.

Enneagram 7- Katherine?

Dali Lama- so funny, jokes around, pokes people in the belly, bows then bursts out laughing. He can’t contain how big the Spirit is in his body. He’s not blind to the suffering but brings the joy, humor, and fun despite it all.

16.30- Leader of his country, sp leader of his people, Chinese came in and took everything. He was asked why he wasn’t angry that everything was taken. His response, “You’re absolutely right. So then, why would I give him my mind?” POWERFUL.

Why give up your joy? It’s so easy for us to give it up for the drama but the reverse isn’t true?

Might as well face it we’re addicted to… drama.

18.32 Wanna hear about the real life training kids are getting these days? Who’s the better parent? The world is changing and kids need to take on new roles. Shift happens!

19.11 Expressing the Repression of our Joy!

So ready to have joy!

Perfect time to be stepping away and releasing the reins on their lives. Krista’s been raising them on her own for 5 years. As one by one they leave, things release more.

22.00 Pulling back the veil on what real life is! This is what change looks like! The Episode that was almost not aired!.

Through Covid- no more 6:30a wake ups, no effing lunches to make, no pulling them out of bed,

20 years of doing something out of programming, Life Sucking, to do it and now the fun of Covid is the freedom of schedule. I’m not a 6:30a wake up cheerful kinda gal.

Fun Robbers-

So hard to not follow what’s societally appropriate, what matters,

Today, are you willing to give yourself a day off from seriousness?

Are you willing to give your life the fullness of JOY, no matter what’s going on?

24.07 Mr. RHRN bucks the system. His brain doesn’t think that way. He questions our cultural norm. Lives his life from Fun! That’s all he wants and anything else makes him angry. Or is he just saying out loud what we all think?

26.41- having an opinion and being able to debate can be fun. Katherine wants her freedom! Freedom to talk about what she wants to talk about. You can disagree without hating each other. But that’s not how it is any more! Or is it drama?

Our brains are drawn to go to the heaviness. We have a hard time sitting in the Fun.

30.15 Fun can’t be had if we shut down the Field of Loving:

openness, loving, kindness, compassion, creativity, and curiosity.

The Against-ness that comes out from someone needing to make themselves right or wrong. (Krista)

When the judgment comes in, is when the ego identity takes over.

Can still have Fun in the Friction if we just treat each other as humans.

Can we still be Light beings and embrace the Fun and still go out and do the work?

If we can’t have fun, what the fuck is the point? There’s always going to be something in the world that needs healing, that needs dealing with.

We have to maintain our energy, light, loving, joy, and fun in order to be solid Light Beings and go out and impact change.

Existential Exhaustion. Months and months of worrying about things we can’t get clear answers on. Finally, just give it up.

You have self-leadership. The Two Gals advocate that you love each, enjoy each other. Argue but don’t destroy each other.

You’ve officially got permission to go and have some FUN! It gives the next person and the next person to have fun. So that you can inspire others to see the way through. Joy is infectious. Joy is absolutely possible!

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Special Edition: Naked Athena Jul 29, 2020

:47 Disarm a military invasion of Portland

1:27 Naked Athena legs splayed open

1:40 look who she is being… full of light, calm and centered

2:00 fully embodied feminine and divine masculine taking action in alignment with her wholeness

3:02 embodied grace… apparition… full of light

3:37 being peace being love

4:04 simplicity of her presence powerful change

4:52 combined action of the divine masculine and feminine

5:30 Athena not a Goddess of War but in the Truest for a bringer of Peace

6:09 Military walked away nothing to do.

6:36 Healed feminine and a wounded feminine discussion Krista

7:32 Grace and Balance she didn’t fight she was healed in a loving space

8:15 Our bodies are no our life. Temple of her body was in touch with the eternal flame of her love. No protection. The Naked vulnerability of her subdued everyone.

9:40 She knew she is the light She is being fed from her intuition and guided in grace.
10:36 living her truth rather than being a spectacle.

11;30 Feet are bleeding. So uplifted she is the embodiment of the divine masculine and feminine form

1217 Modern Day Divine embodied feminine.

12:50 Action from the healed divine feminine and the healed masculine, you are one with the divine and it inhabits you.

14:45 Power of being connected to the divine if complete faith and trust.

15:50 What being peace does .. fill the streets with Silence… women

16:42 Julia Butterfly Hill, Lady Godiva, Rosa Parks action from the feminine Goddess the power love state, God filled state.

17:55 Local naked woman in Ojai Krista… she had no real agenda except to be a spectacle. No Power. Unhealed feminine. More rebellious, againstness, attention grabbing spectacle. Joke salacious

20:02 Athena respectful response. instinct of the masculine to protect … still he is playing the externalized masculine

22:56: extreme vulnerability and she is just holding space in her message of peace, nothing to do but soften. It was not that she was naked she was vulnerable in her nakedness.

24:40 masculine response is a good sign if they are moved to care for women

25:39 Beauty. She brought beauty into a dangerous dark situation. Watching a flower opening.

26:40 we are powerful and we are coming from Source. That is where her power Is coming from. Or we can come from

27:41 Angelic apparition in the form of this beautiful woman. And Katherine has had Men show up as angelic apparition

28:20 Angelic presence “come to earth” ground peace , love beauty, grace, honor, serenity, inspiring moments of reminder that there is a lot of power in silence

29:30 Open to hear the divine wisdom. We all have the capacity but are we doing the work?

30:22 Dance of infinity play and dance together ~ happens in side watch her… she is in the divine feminine and dance with the masculine.

32:25 MLK learning about peace in Selma, first march and second peaceful march. Kneeled and prayed .

33:29 Military response shift .. they were disarmed. The grace of that is that we all have this power. Cultivate, work it, and choose your path to power.

34:37 What would have happened if she was black?

35:20 Black woman stood next to her. This is beyond the body feminine coming forward and quietly walking away.

36:34 Brilliant Angel landed to show us that peace in possible.

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S3 Ep3 Love Quiz Jul 22, 2020

:50 Katherine surprises Krista with a Love quiz

1:11 Is Krista prepared to answer these vulnerable questions

1:40 go to the link to take the quiz along with Krista https://intimatepartnership.com

2:00 Question #1

2:34 Krista’s answer

4:30 Krista realizes they can deepen in their spiritual practice together

4:44 Krista gets curious if her and Mr. Right Here Right Now use sex to compensate for other deficits in the relationship

5:30 Question #2

5:58 Krista’s answer

7:48 Question #3 Is Krista Connected?

8:54 Krista’s answer. She realizes that they don’t share a lot of their day to day life. But their level of sharing is extremely open and honest.

11:48 Question #4 Decision Making

13:10 Krista realizes she is desiring more than she is experiencing.

15:07 Krista’s answer

15:50 Question #5

17:23 Krista realizes that each partner could be operating at different levels

18:05 Krista’s answer

18:23 Question #6 A Question about Sex

20:05 Krista’s answer

21:10 Question #7 Are your needs being met?

22:08 Krista’s answer reflects her weakness in having needs

23:25 Question #8 Can you count on your partner?

24:36 Krista’s answer

27:02 Krista realizes she finally feels worthy of love

27:26 Question #9 Emotional Life

28:50 Krista’s answer-

29:23 Reveals a big piece of her relationship with Mr. Right Here Right Now

31:30 Krista’s answer

33:37 Question #10 Do you take time for yourself?

34:36 Krista’s answer

36:00 The gals discuss how they are growing beyond their journaling practice and reflecting on how that is part of the spiritual evolution and growth.

37:05 Question #11 What do I want in my life?

37:56 Krista’s answer

38:28 Question #12

39:35 Krista’s answer

45:18 Krista receives the results from her quiz

46:40 Katherine is offering a free partnership plan consultation to take the quiz results to a new level and create the partnership of your dreams.

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S3 Ep2 Getting Even Jul 15, 2020

1:00 Life is complicated and crazy right now… the world is so big but all the same issues mirroring back and forth from the microcosm to the macrocosm

1:35 protection and safety

2:08 does it start with us or does it start outside us … first place of influence in right here in our lives

2:30 Krista is reflecting on Mr. Right Here Right Now … Appreciating the moment and peace and blissful disappearing into him.

5:20 Krista moving into the openness in the moment flowing into sexual energy … and Mr Right Here Right Now rebuffs her advances for work …

7:28 Krista’s “getting even” persona shows up… and even while she knew it was a story … she couldn’t get the e-motion to stop… from the story of shame from rejection …

8:07 This is what happiness feels like…. very expanded and joyful …. into an immediate feeling embarrassed and hurt

10:13 Was Krista trying to control her expanded state when she added sex into the mix?

11:04 Was it her upper limit that created the rejection? “oh I’ll go the extra mile to make sure I can keep this happiness. True happiness came from the freedom … but trying to capture it knocked it down.

13:47 punishing him was the first place the wild woman inside wanted to go … Krista considers which way would be best to approach for Krista to use with this one.

15:59 where did the conflict start with the night before in Mr Here and Now’s delicious attention? Or in the morning… what is authentic impulse, what is Krista doing to try to give back to him or trying to send him out the door happy… so he’ll come back! yuck!

17:49 super connection in the Oneness… stepped into oneness across the boundary of separation… once we think about the “other” fall to earth when we become two.

19:17 I am the cause … me doubting the love, going into fear about losing love creates the loss. Fear of losing is what breaks the connection.

20:30 The choice for tonight is how to settle myself so that I can choose back into the love.

21:07 What is fear? Anything that is not love.

21:35 Mr. Delicious was completely giving to me last night, and the morning of blissful love, an exhaustion from the trying to be good, the effort was so hard. We were coming together in the loving that is outside the trying… how the flow works in a quiet blissful gentle place.

24:08 Leaning in first sexually Mr. D questioned “was I really available?” some part of me was topping out and feeling the need to reciprocate. Unconsciously I broke the field .. this is not going quite right he had the experience of being rejected.

26:54 We are talking about expansion when you hit the outside edge of our comfort zona. Breakdown… Gay Hendricks: Upper Limit and noticing the effects of our choices.

28:24. take responsibility and let the story go, working inside ourselves to return to our own loving.

29:12 the gift of these men and what they have given us, from our investment in relationship is keeping Krista out on the edge. “we are happy, what is the problem” underneath Krista still feels the desire to own him and keep him for her safety and security.

30:39 Krista needing reassurance, the edge is very present in the moment rather than in the form of the relationship.

32:00 Mr. Delicious commitment issue keeps revolving around whether there was 100% commitment… exploring love …what “destabilizes” you so that you can experience more love. Making the commitment to love instead of each other.

33:00 Safety in freedom or in security. Mr. Here and Now and Krista how can we give what they need…both will have to expand into new territory.

35:13 Each person is honored, or you don’t stay. If each of you can come together in these needs from each other. Alison Armstrong episode talking about making decisions together about what is true for each of you.

37:12 Fear “it is so good how will I get this back if he leaves” … when we grasp at the relationship, we can lose everything.

38:42 Can our safety come from somewhere else? Can we find the safety we need in our own loving that is sustainable and powerful?

39:05 can we expand into the field where we can both meet?

39:30 we should be able to withstand lower vibration without derailing us…if we can’t, we are choosing to unravel.

40:00 The idea of the Podcast today is that we are responsible for creating fields of loving that we include other people, when they break, we have to look at ourselves.

40:30 Can Krista and Katherine pull it off before the guys get home?

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S3 Ep1 Committed to Who? Jul 08, 2020

4:16 Katherine sees herself as a Stradivarius violin.

5:00 Mr. Delicious is judging Katherine’s love of roses and diamonds which is an issue because it is the true essence of Katherine.

6:00 Katherine is seeking her maestro.

7:15 Katherine’s love of flowers and diamonds was not accepted by her family either.

8:40 When Katherine doesn’t feel honored she doesn’t feel loved.

9:35 Katherine requires things that Mr. Delicious doesn’t believe in.

10:00 Can he love her anyways?

10:50 Katherine doesn’t want to feel shame in wanting them.

11:14 If Mr. Delicious judges Katherine, her body can’t open

13:44 The part of Katherine that makes her, HER, wasn’t being accepted by Mr. Delicious

14:15 Mr. Delicious had begun the process of Endurance.

15:30 Katherine isn’t ok with just being accepted for who she is. She wants to be honored.

16:00 The Devil is in the details. Mr. Delicious fell in love with Katherine’s light and beauty but has now begun to find fault in the aspects of her that actually give her the light essence.

16:35 Krista discusses how she fell in love with Mr. Right Here Right Now because of his free spirit and youthful energy. But now how she is finding “fault” in some of his childlike traits that actually make him, HIM.

17:14 Mr. Right Here Right values Krista’s grounded-ness but this grounded-ness can also come off as stiff. The complete opposite of him.

18:00 If Mr. Right Here Right now curtails his freedom, it will be deadly to the relationship.

19:15 Mr. Right Here Right Now’s choice to live freely has nothing to do with Krista. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t care for her. It is him honoring himself and his needs.

19:42 By him maintaining his needs, he creates more respect from Krista

22:48 Can we honor the other person without sacrificing ourselves

25:00 The art of being present.

26:00 Krista found herself picking at Mr. Right Here Right Now’s personality. He called her out and asked if that was really what she was upset about.

26:50 Krista questions investing her time in this relationship

27:15 Krista realizes she wasn’t feeling “chosen” by him.

27:40 Krista didn’t feel safe and secure so the conversation with him was scary

28:00 Krista was trying to be the “cool” girlfriend instead of telling her true feelings.

29:15 We don’t know the future so how do we know what to commit to?

29:50 Katherine’s two commitments are number one to herself, and number two, to loving Mr. Delicious

30:27 What does “til death do us part” mean?

32:00 Mr. Right Here was afraid of hurting Krista and being turned into the bad guy for being exactly who he is.

33:00 Krista commits fully to loving Mr. Right Here Right Now until one of them needs to make another choice. If things change, the commitment is to not make him the bad guy and continue loving him. Not staying with him. But not hating him.

36:10 Love is being created from power, not victimhood.

38:40 Krista reflects on being present with the loving and reminding herself she is happy NOW. Does she have to give up that happiness just because their relationship changes?

40:00 Katherine remembers a revelation that Krista’s ex-husband had that showed his commitment to Endurance

41:20 His endurance created Krista’s endurance.

42:35 Do you feel safe to speak your needs to your partner?

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Special Edition: Growing Up Black in America with Cedi Ali Rajah Jul 01, 2020

7:06- Curiosity versus “I have a view point. What do you think about this “thing” that I already think I’m right about.”

8:20 Krista discusses that white people need to be in the space of curiosity and get of the “trying to convince” phase.

9:25 What does Heart-Centered Listening mean?

10:30 Cedi talks about putting heart-centered listening into practice.

12:05 Pre USM Cedi thought that connection meant “you getting me” but through the work he has learned how to be a clear, safe space to “get” another and reflect back to that person “I get you. When people feel heard they feel loved.

13:29 Cedi tells his story of being a black man in America

13:45 Double Consciousness- Black Americans have a part that is instrinsically African and yet their culture is American. There are warring aspects of themselves at odds.

14:30 This shows up for Cedi when he is moved from Sugar Hill the suburbs to the ghetto of Detroit

15:20 His arrival to Detroit coincides with crack cocaine

17:00 Cedi sees first hand what money can bring.

17:36 Becomes clear that he will not die in the ghetto. Chooses the path of academia.

19:45 Cedi has bad coat karma. He tells the story of what his coats meant to him growing up in the ghetto.

24:50 Choosing between life and a coat.

26:50 Adapt to the ghetto or don’t survive

27:04 Katherine asks how the systemic sense of no escape, affect Cedi?

28:00 Even in the middle of the ghetto he knew “Sugar Hill” existed so he knew there was something else out there beyond the ghetto.

29:00 Cedi discusses black on black crime.

30:24 Cedi understands the context for why the crime happens in the ghetto.

31:00 Doesn’t excuse poor choices though.

32:30 Cedi discusses coping mechanisms for surviving the ghetto when he didn’t feel the same as the other black men in Detroit.

33:40 Krista asks about Cedi’s experience of being a black man at the University of Santa Monica which was predominantly white.

34:10 Cedi discusses going to Agape for the first time.

35:50 Cedi was shocked by the way a white man treated him.

39:00 Cedi discusses context is everything when saying, “I don’t see color.”

40:34 In the spiritual context where people are seeking to grow together as humans, that context gets transcended.

42:39 The history is so important but when we talk spiritually, we are only talking in the Now, but it doesn’t mean that the NOW isn’t surrounded by the context of the history.

44:33 A black man needs a peace plan when being pulled over by a cop. Cedi has a run in with a cop and he uses his spiritual psychology tools to cope with the situation.

47:55 The experience brings Katherine to tears causing her to say “I’m sorry.” She recognizes the white privilege she has had in her life has afforded her certain experiences.

49:53 Cedi expresses appreciation toward Katherine but invites Katherine not to feel bad for a system that she didn’t set up. He loves that she cares but doesn’t want her energy to be spent in feeling bad about the situation. Invites her to be more in the “doing,” like the podcast.

53:48 Katherine asks about the skill of Self-Forgiveness and how can we use this skill appropriately.

55:17 What does forgiveness actually mean? Cedi understands the concept of self-forgiveness

56:36 Guilt reinforces the judgment that started the issues in the first place.

56:50 Is it okay for white people to put their fists in the air at marches?

57:10 The question reinforces that there is consideration for race.

58:46 Krista discusses her take away around shame/blame and justification from a psst interview Cedi was a part of where the moderator said it’s ineffective to sit in the shame because it’s a waste of energy. Krista brings up the concept of spiritual bypass.

1:01:00 Healing must come before the “we are all one” message.

1:01:58 Must respect where people are. It helps to use heart centered listening.

1:03:00 Discussing being in a spiritual context like Agape versus the Facebook context. The intent needs to be love, not bypass.

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Special Edition: Voulez Vous Coucher Avec Moi, Ce Soir? Rerun Jun 17, 2020

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Special Edition: A Taste Of Alison Armstrong Rerun Jun 10, 2020

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Special Edition: Blue Lips Sink Ships Rerun May 20, 2020

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Special Edition: Stop Chopping The Balls Rerun May 13, 2020

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S2 Ep40: Altered States May 06, 2020

:35 Krista teases about the “journey” she has been on

:55 Katherine announces that the gals will be changing their name in order to get their message out more fluidly.

1:30 Their website will be twogalssoulschool.com but they will continue to keep their podcast name as The Holy Fuck Podcast.

2:09 Posts can be shared with friends more easily under the name of Two Gals Soul School

2:50 The gals also announce they are going to take a few weeks off for Spring Break.

3:55 Shamanic Journeys and Plant Based Medicine

4:15 Katherine’s experience was more natural while Krista’s has been more induced.

4:44 Krista discusses her judgments about people being able to drink a drink and have a spiritual experience when she had to work so hard to have hers naturally. She decides to do what she’s been judging as a way of getting over her ego side.

5:37 Krista thought she was going to be able to take a summer vacation and have some Plant Based experiences.

6:00 Krista’s summer travel plans have been postponed so she finds a way to go on a “trip” in her own bedroom

7:25 Krista discusses how female lineage came through in her plant based experience

8:00 Missy Eliot appears in Krista’s trip

8:41 An English, protestant woman appears in Krista’s trip

9:12 Krista has an awareness of how the angry, rigid old woman has been a part of her decision making.

9:43 Krista’s Korean daughter “appears” in her trip with a disapproving energy.

10:40 An old crone appears in the mirror

11:22 Mr. Right Here Right Now performs a clearing on Krista to rid her of the women from her past

11:55 Krista puts a necklace on that transforms her into an Egyptian Queen. Her empowered “Self” came through.

12:34 Her empowered Queen was here all along but she was buried underneath all the “old” women.

13:15 Mr. Right Here Right Now’s face continues to morph, showing Krista all of the different personas of his past. Past lives of them together or just his past lives.

14:45 The Egyptian Queen represents that life is meant to be enjoyed.

15:00 The “old” ladies have been making decisions for Krista’s life that feel repressed and rigid.

16:22 Krista releases the guilt she feels around enjoying her life during this challenging Covid time.

16:54 Katherine reflects that both gals are bringing the Queen energy into themselves and expressing it out to the world through the HF podcast.

17:33 Katherine shares her shamanic experience and how grounding it felt.

18:30 Katherine has an ancestral experience guided by an Ojai Shaman.

19:24 A Scottish Queen appears in Katherine’s experience and she has an understanding that it is was war time and the Queen feels helpless. She feels the grief but also stands firm against the forces of darkness

20:42 Katherine has lived in war torn places before.

21:53 Native American medicine woman appears.

22:39 Katherine realizes that the medicine woman represents her deceased, twin sister and the Scottish Queen represents Katherine.

23:30 The medicine women had a lot of similarities to Katherine’s sister.

24:45 Katherine remembers that her lineage includes her family from Oklahoma which might represent the Native American energy that has crept into her DNA.

25:37 Katherine laughs that someone in her Waspy family must have been with a Native American woman.

26:15 The gals discuss how we create our identities from what we think is our ancestral background.

26:40 Krista discusses the difference in her DNA and her sister’s DNA even though they share the same parents.

28:10 The Scottish Queen felt like Katherine but the medicine woman only felt like a piece of her.

28:58 Altered states allow for healing

29:25 Katherine discusses the awareness of how the empowered women live inside her whereas Krista’s experience was more about letting go of the “repressed women.”

30:35 Katherine decides to become a minister after her sister died.

31:20 Krista talks about how the repressed energies have stopped her from allowing herself to be sexy and free in the world.

31:55 The gals discuss taking their clients through past life healing processes.

32:25 Healing happens past, present and future helping us heal our family lineage.

33:14 Krista shares how her daughter is unknowingly experiencing the same repressed lineage through her Asian roots.

33:48 What can Krista do to help her daughter clear the lineage without having to take the next 20 years to do it.

34:23 As Krista heals her daughter can too.

34:50 Krista realizes that the Asian lineage and repression caused issues in her marriage.

36:36 Family belief systems get passed down through the generations and can be healed and cleared through forgiveness.

37:28 Krista didn’t want to take off her necklace because she felt so powerful with it.

38:00 The gifts of shamanic and plant based experiences and stories.

39:14 Krista realizes that she needs to move into forgiveness with the “Old” ladies instead of remaining in judgment towards those aspects of herself. She wants to invite them in with acceptance and embrace them.

40:33 Now that the ”journey” is over, the real work begins.

41:15 Krista realizes that the African American women in her trip represent the fun, lively side of herself.

41:52 The gals go on Spring break and look forward to the mischief they can get into.

42:20 Two Gals Soul School

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S2 Ep39: Safety First Apr 22, 2020

:31 When you can’t go outside you might as well go within.

1:10 Krista on vacation for the Covid 19 experience ~ pre USM she would be in complete terror. Now she is not going to the dark places she would have gone to before.

1:50 Katherine explores the wide variety of experiences that everyone is having. Honoring experiences of stuckness … In the past, Krista might have been fixating on things she couldn’t change.

4:12 We never know what is really good for us.. Krista was previously upset about her house not selling but is now finding the gift in it.

4:44 Honor all experiences of what we each have to do. All those who are out in the world and have to continue to work through this. Everyone is challenged..

5:56 Being at peace about things we cannot control is helping the Gals navigate this time.

6:43 compassion for everyone…

6:57 Safety on everyone’s mind.

7:24 do you feel loved by words or by actions?

8:24 Krista is “embracing the Gift” of Mr. Right Here Right Now being forced to stay in the states, solidifying their connection before he goes.

11:49 What is the gift that Golden Eyes gives Krista that makes this time even more special?

14:31 Healing that was happening with Mr. Right Here Right Now, is slightly irritating to Golden Eyes

15:00 Transformation of relationship from romantic to friendship. Not abandoning each other is better than having to choose.

16:00 Being Loved by Golden Eyes? What does that mean? How can we see that? Why is that safe now?

17:00 Krista’s body signals that she is safe/not safe. How does that show up?

19:00 Krista gets her two men differently than she ever imagined before…

19:40 The subtle signs of safety/not safety start showing up with these two men. What creates that?

21:00 What times have been totally unsafe with Mr. Delicious … or totally safe full body experience of calm and loving …

22:57: Women can’t feel loved until they feel safe ~ Alison Armstrong

24:00 What does Mr. Right Here Right Now drop into Krista’s world, as a big surprise?

26:00 Safer to let him step more fully in first.

27:00 What is it that is making Krista start feeling like she can fall in Love? Even without the container “words”.

29:00 Highest values for women and men: freedom and safety- how do they interact to create love?

30:00 Katherine explores that she had to feel safe to explore engagement to Mr. Delicious. Safety first, then love, then engagement.

31:00 Choice is safety too.

32:30 What does Krista learn about the 70% that was good in her marriage.

33:13 Katherine shares about what is possible if we truly step into partnership, we can transition the form of our partnership into anything.

34:08 Why did Krista have to be the ‘bad person’ in her marriage?

36:00 Katherine asks “Is love big enough to hold a variety of containers? Can we make it safe enough? How does the Truth bring love forward, no matter what the truth is?”

38:00 Congruence between words and actions, you will feel safe. Those are the signs that things are good.

39:00 What if you do know if you are safe and loved?

39:20 Krista has an Ahah moment! What has changed the most?

39:40 When will Krista fully be able feel and say what she really wants?

41:40 When Krista holds herself accountable for what she wants, changes some things she is up to, and gets more honest… that’s when the safety really starts to unfold.

42:00 What is the big surprise for Krista when she gets more focused on what she wants?

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S2 Ep38: Unwavering Apr 15, 2020

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S2 Ep37: When One Is Not Enough Apr 08, 2020

4:35 Not even a pandemic can stop Krista from finding “trouble” to get into.

4:44 No matter where you go, there you are.

4:55 Katherine has to work through “victimhood” at one of her FB posts

5:45 Katherine recommits to her beliefs and gives her courage to continue to share her message of love.

6:00 In times of crisis, people’s true colors come out.

7:30 Katherine reflects that she wants to improve on having compassion for other people’s fear.

7:00 Everything is for us. This belief allows Katherine to move through an issue and call back her power.

10:00 Nothing is over until its over. As long as it’s unhealed it will keep coming back to give you another opportunity to heal. Sometimes that comes from new situations and sometimes the same person shows back up to try again.

10:30 Golden Eyes is back

10:50 Krista reflects that because she is the one who has changed so much, she is able to see and hear Golden Eyes through a new lens.

11:15 Krista explains how Mr. Right Here Right Now has come into her life to heal the two aspects that she was not able to heal with Golden Eyes.

12:25 In times in crisis, it’s easier to let go of past issues. This time is allowing Krista and Golden Eyes to drop the hurt and heal.

13:15 One of the things Krista has been healing with Mr. Right Here Right Now is her confidence in communication.

13:44 You are really in partnership with your partners wounded child.

14:40 Golden Eyes reflects on the fact that he was driving Krista crazy.

15:15 Krista realizes she’s not crazy by being in partnership with Mr. Right Here Right Now.

16:20 Krista explains how Golden Eyes is responding to her in a new level of understanding which allowed her the experience of expressing herself.

17:30 Krista’s heart has softened so Golden Eyes could let down his defenses.

18:49 Krista’s unattachment to the outcome makes speaking your truth easier.

19:10 How do we give space for the “wild thing” in our life? Krista reflects that because she has integrated and accepted this side of her, she no longer has the experience of needing to “bust out” and do anything chaotic.

21:15 Krista’s journey through whether she wants a monogamous relationship, committed partnership or multiple partners.

22:00 Krista feels out of her integrity that she hadn’t been able to tell Mr. Right Here Right Now about her discussions with Golden Eyes.

22:50 Krista is leading a double life.

23:00 Krista has a “morning man” and a “night time man”

24:10 Golden Eyes asks what it means for Krista to be in an open relationship?

24:50 Does Krista have to choose between the two men?

25:22 Krista throws out the joke, “I want them both!”

25:57 Krista is surprised by both men’s responses.

26:40 Mr. Right Here Right Now is supportive of Krista’s happiness

27:10 Krista’s old self had to do wild things in order to fulfill herself. Now, she has normalized the desires of her wild self and allows that side of herself to be fulfilled and expressed on a daily basis.

27:42 For the first time in her life, Krista realizes it’s ok to be herself.

28:05 Katherine reflects that the more authentic version of Krista is the less afraid version.

30:15 Krista explains Mr. Right Here Right Now has more of a closed heart so it makes it easier for him to be in an open heart.

31:00 Katherine explains that Mr. Right Here Right Now doesn’t have what I need because he has other people in his life to take care of.

31:46 Because Mr. Right Here Right Now doesn’t have as many emotions it made it safer for Krista to express herself with him because he wasn’t reactive versus Golden Eyes has an open heart so Krista is more of a trigger for him.

34:10 Katherine reflects that because the world has a little more gravitas, Krista was able to see some of the things that have been missing with Mr. Right Here Right Now.

35:20 Krista was feeling alone in the quarantine but realizes that Golden Eyes was there for him.

36:25 Katherine wonders if some men would love to have more than one man to take care of their partner’s needs. Would it take the pressure off? Krista believes there is truth to that.

37:37 Will competition between the two men benefit Krista by keeping everyone sweet and loving?

39:00 We are all in time-out right now. It’s a great time to reflection our needs and desires.

39:55 The quarantine has forced Krista and Golden Eyes to take space, and rebuild from a non-physical place. This is allowing for the emotional issues to heal without the pressure of sex being the go-to coping mechanism.

41:07 Katherine says it’s easier to live in your house with a lot of people if you are telling the truth.

41:50 What is the solution to the wild side inside you? Be open to that aspect of you at all times and integrate it into your daily life. You must show that side to the people in your life so they can learn to accept it or walk away.

44:50 Krista reveals an inner desire that she will be able to integrate her healing with Mr. Right Here Right Now and bring it back to Golden Eyes so that maybe one day she doesn’t need two men. One could be enough.

45:30 Krista looks vital and radiant with her newfound freedom and honesty.

46:05 The antidote to the crazy is authenticity.

46:50 you must go back and heal the shame you are feeling toward the aspect of yourself that you are hiding or suppressing.

47:20 You must be okay with your “shameful” parts before you can ask someone else to be okay with it.

49:05 Krista feels truly loved by these two men because they were in complete acceptance of her.

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S2 Ep36: Blinded Apr 01, 2020

:30 Krista and Katherine join each other via Zoom during the Coronavirus

1:30 K & K let go of the perfection and show up get the message out.

2:30 What part of what is going on is our stuff and what part is another person’s stuff?

3:15 This is a time to explore what we truly want

3:45 Why are we really here?

4:00 This is a time to really see the people we care about through the lens of love instead of through the lens of our hurts.

5:00 It’s time to let the wounds heal so we can expand in our loving

5:10 Katherine expresses how she feels lucky to feel love

5:20 Krista reflects on how Katherine’s junk has been sitting in the middle of her and her love for Mr. Delicious

5:30 When we clean out the gunk clogging our pipes, we can pull back the veil and see our loved ones more clearly and experience more joy

5:58 When the veil is pulled back, the love is there waiting.

6:00 When the healing happens, we are able to see our loved ones purely without our arguments, betrayals, and unworthiness in the way. Seeing your partner as if you are seeing them for the first time. Return to the field. How long can we stay in the field?

7:13 You don’t have to have a partner to feel the love

8:00 Krista discusses one of her client’s journeys through loneliness over the last year and how she is now more prepared than most to handle this quarantine. Her inner work has prepared her for this new paradigm.

9:00 Can we maintain our wholeness when we return back into the world after the isolation is over. Can we return to the world a new, evolved species?

10:00 Quote from Byron Katie- “Being WITH is loving.”

11:49 Katherine’s “settled” feeling has come from her healing work

12:20 The gals realize they are having a tandem experience in isolation.

12:50 Krista has been wanting to express herself to Golden Eyes and has been ruminating on all the “should haves.”

15:10 Golden Eyes comes back into the picture to do more healing.

15:25 Krista ponders what would happen if she let this new, more healed version of herself have a conversation with Golden Eyes.

16:00 The tendency to pick up the same old story and begin new conversations from an old perspective versus going into a new conversation with an updated version of yourself.

17:30 Krista finally finds her voice with Golden Eyes

17:50 If you are still ruminating on a topic, it isn’t healed.

18:40 Krista and Golden eyes have a conversation between two souls NOT their wounded warriors.

19:30 The world is not showing up for us anymore! We have to show up for ourselves.

19:50 Our expectations are being washed clean right now with the virus.

20:50 Katherine gets called out on FB for having a different point of view. Even her crusade of love somehow upset people.

21:30 Other people’s “stuff” got in the way of them seeing Katherine’s loving.

22:43 Perception checking

23:00 Krista reflects that her old self would have built a story around something Golden Eyes said, but her healed self-had the ability to perception check with him, allowing her to stop the “story” in her head from gaining steam and creating a problem

24:58 Hanging out with someone’s soul is really intimate. Do we create dramas and “stories” to save ourselves from the intimacy?

26:00 While Katherine is in a committed engagement and Krista is in multiple partnerships, what they have in common are “ground rules for partnership” that feel safe regardless of whether it’s monogamous or open.

27:00 Krista discusses how weird it felt to have a “safe” feeling with the return of Golden Eyes especially in light of what they have been through in the past. Familiarity felt good in comparison to the newness of Mr. Here and Now. Stability in the Instability.

28:30 The entire world is having to shut down and stay in place, rest and reflect.

29:00 The return of Golden Eyes is a prime example of what pulling back the veil of hurt looks like and the miracles that can be achieved when we see someone purely from their loving soul and not from our wounded child.

29:29 People have the opportunity to rediscover their partners during this time of solitude.

32:00 We are getting to see how powerful our connections are even though we can’t be together.

32:40 How challenging times often serve us in returning to our loving.

33:00 In the future can we learn how to return to love without there needing to be a challenge or trauma.

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S2 Ep35: Endurance Mar 25, 2020

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S2 Ep34: Spread the Love Mar 18, 2020

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S2 Ep32: Mr. Here and Now 2 Mar 12, 2020

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S2 Ep33: What Do You Desire? Mar 11, 2020

14:00 Reference to the Book, “Open Her” by Karen Brody.

16:40 Power Differential and manipulation blocks the fulfillment of desires

22:00 Acting out a desire versus being the desire

24:00 Way of the Superior Man- Need a balance between the masculine and feminine to feel really sexy

27:00 Krista would much rather fulfill Mr. Right Here Right Now’s desires than be vulnerable and ask for hers to be met

29:00 being asked about her desires in the bedroom opened up space within Krista to allow for new desires to be explored in the rest of her life

30:00 A new plan is awakening within Krista that has been fueled by the sexual energy and creativity that has been flowing

32:30 Krista is allowing herself to experience the right here right now and is letting go of the need to plan for the future.

33:48 Krista is building the strength to respect her desires regardless of whether Mr. Here and Now is actually here. She learns to detach the desires from the man.

35:00 Krista has fears around finding another man who can please her sexually

36:00 If you are having a hard time finding a partner, check the energy you are putting out into the world

37:00 Does fulfilling desires have to do with another person

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S2 Ep32: Mr. Here and Now Mar 04, 2020

In Ep:32 we meet Mr. Here and Now! Is he simply the updated version of Golden Eyes/Rico Suave? Or does he have way more in store for Krista? And what does that have to do with Life Busting?

As Krista leans into this “new relationship possibility” she realizes this may not look like anything she has fallen for in the past. Previously she was begging for freedom from monogamy and now that it is here… she is intrigued (and terrified!)

Is she finally getting what she’s been asking for? What is in store for her as she steps out with the “fast” crowd? As she finds herself in a truly open structure, she starts looking around in a bit of a daze. This daze leaves Krista shaking her head as Mr. Here and Now drops hints like “It’s fine to have romantic experiences with more than one person.”

As she begins to bring this home to herself she starts wondering “Am I wasting my time?” Can Krista have a short term, closed container or is she still bent on creating a thinly veiled box and problems that don’t exist because she is scared of getting exactly what she says she wants?

After 47 years of building “the dream life,” Krista is looking at all the possibilities of “Life Busting,” This will either mean trying to rebuild something familiar or expanding into a life that is totally different and wildly fun.

Katherine notices that all of this paradigm shifting behavior is on the heels of Krista’s intention of getting clearer about her divorce and new life. Listen and hear the unfolding of Krista’s new commitment to being free and all that she is receiving from it! www.holyf*ckpodcast.com💋

S2 Ep31: Sex and Self-Betrayal Feb 27, 2020

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S2 Ep30: Secrets and Lies Feb 19, 2020

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S2 Special Valentine's Day Episode: Love You Feb 12, 2020

~Adventures Through Valentine’s Day

~The difference between Love ya, Love You, and I Love You

~The real meaning of Self-Love

~Practicing non-attachment new relationships

~Moving Through Divorce Emotions on Valentine’s Day

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S2 Ep29: A Taste Of Alison Armstrong Feb 05, 2020

Alison Armstrong’s exploration of human behavior began in 1991, with her decision to study men, “To find out how I was bringing out the worst in them. And hopefully, how to bring out the best.” Her success in understanding men naturally led to studying women’s behavior and making vital connections between the two.

Armstrong distinguishes human instincts that compel both men and women to behave in ways that contradict and undermine our own purposes, goals, values, needs and relationships. She offers partnership-based alternatives giving millions of people access to more fulfilling lives, loving relationships, stronger families and productive organizations.

Armstrong is a sought-after speaker and thought-leader amongst people with the desire to live empowered lives. Alison’s philosophy and approach is frequently referenced and taught by other authors, speakers, business consultants and therapists.

To find out more about Alison’s current offerings, go to www.understandmen.com

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S2 Ep28: Relationship Roadblocks Jan 29, 2020

Things get a little tense today as the Gals take on an uncomfortable subject! Divorce, Separation and completion of the Marriage ~ and is completion a gateway for what you need to do next? ~ the gals weigh in on the part these phases play in dating and the readiness for partnership. See if these things are true for you too.

In episode 28, Krista attempts to get clarity on whether she is looking for a long term relationship or just sex and games. Katherine proceeds to call Krista out in a big way bringing up some uncomfortable tension that is palpable through the airways. Does it bring up the same discomfort for our listeners too? Facing the truth can jar us out of our stuck-ness, but doesn’t always feel good upon discovery.

When Katherine magnificently facilitates Krista into some challenging territory Krista gets angry! Tune in to hear what Katherine touched on that might be a source to Krista’s dating debacles and see if this phenomenon is true for you as well.

What is getting in the way of Krista’s dating life? Listen and find out what two opposing desires are battling inside of her, keeping her in a world of dating confusion. What is she afraid she won’t be able to do and where does she discover her fear comes from? What assumptions did Krista make about herself since her marriage didn’t work out and are they true?

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S2 Ep27: The New Year Fizzle? Jan 22, 2020

Did you sizzle, fizzle, or dribble over to 2020? Did New Years actually happen? With the 2020 expectations of “clear vision” being bigger than ever for the gals of holy fuck, the New Year wasn’t exactly the super happy, end of holiday time that the gals had anticipated. Instead, the Mid-January doldrums took over.

And on top of that, ‘The man” aka FB and Instagram (and maybe a few others), are blocking theholyfuckpodcast from posting! What is getting in the way? As the gals ponder whether they are “hiding” behind something, they begin to ask some spiritually minded questions. “Why am I creating this experience? Do I not want to be seen? How is this situation I am creating serving me in my growth?

After a family filled, love connected holiday, the gals nests are empty again, leaving a sense silence everywhere. With their spiritual practice gone by the wayside, they find themselves needing to recommit to their practice, and also to what is for the highest good of all concerned. Re-focusing on their spiritual practice gives the gals the boost they need to stop pushing, let go, and surrender…What will they discover on the other side?

Facing the truth that they are not in charge, the gals invite us all to remember something we truly hate to remember. Listen to hear what that is ~ if you dare.

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S2 Ep26: The Penis Whisperer Jan 15, 2020

Did someone say Penis Whisperer? Boner Babe? Dick Doctress? Well, the gals did because they interviewed Shari James, the ultimate Snake Charmer. Shari is an RN and ex-stripper who takes men on the spiritual journey of healing their erectile dysfunction without using pills. Shari shares with the gals her process for turning men from limp biscuits to Super Cocks. Her unique coaching practice has had amazing success healing not just the soft packages but the whole man. This episode isn’t just for men as you women out there can find out how to support the men in your lives to Update the RAM and their hard drives and reboot the booty time.💋

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S2 Ep25: Naughty of Nice? Dec 18, 2019

This might just be the funniest episode yet! In episode 25, the Gals tell tales of sex, lies, and pumpkin pies. While Katherine was enjoying a nice, wholesome Thanksgiving with her family, Krista was ethically slutting it up in Ojai. While she got hot and randy with a new fellow, her integrity definitely came into question. What trouble did she find herself in that had her questioning herself as a woman, friend, and spiritual being? Who pulled up and witnessed her wet, walk of shame?
The gals explore the ways in which people pretend to want the same things when in actuality they desire to be fully themselves. What’s your relationship truth? Marriage? Polyamory? Sluts r’us? Are you pretending to be more “normal” than you really are?
Why is so damn hard to be yourself? Are you really monogamous pretending to be polyamorous? Or are you a free-fucking polyamorous being shoving yourself into the monogamy box?💋

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S2 Ep24: Dramarama Dec 11, 2019

In episode 24, Katherine makes an announcement that could change the way the gals talk about dating. Will this be the end of their naughty talk or will the big news make way for new topics of conversation?

As the gals continue to talk about relationships and life changes, the word Significance becomes the source of exploration. This challenging concept gets the gals digging beneath the surface of their life’s issues to see what’s really going on. Is an illness just an illness or is it a way of finding significance? Is relationship trauma just a saga to tell to your friends or is a self-created drama built to facilitate connection?

Does your drama create your life? What would you be doing if you weren’t afraid of exposing yourself and who you are? The Gals touch on what is real significance and what are the signposts that you aren’t really there.

Where are you sourcing your significance? Are you are drawing upon drama or positivity to generate your significance in the world? Or are you possibly sucking your significance from other peoples’ achievements? Maybe even your children’s lives?💋

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S2 Ep23: My Penis Is A Dick Dec 04, 2019

In this wild and woolly episode the gals go “behind the bedroom door” with Horatio and his partner, Rita, as he shares his story and “swinging” sexual lifestyle.

The gals learn a thing or two as he opens up about his “openly monogamous" partnership with his wife and some of their experiences together.

Horatio shares his three rules of online dating having had a 101 drinks to meet his now wife!

In this constantly surprising conversation the gals poke and prod him to share more and more about what his actual lifestyle choices are, warnings for those who are pressuring partners to join them, and the 4 most important guidelines for enjoying this lifestyle and ... wait for it, how you can get involved too!

This episode will have you laughing, gasping and feeling your own sexual responsiveness, as the plot twists and turns, for your own personal enjoyment!💋

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S2 Ep22: Wacky Spiritual Occurrences Nov 27, 2019

In episode 22 the gals discuss the wacky world of spiritual awakening, past lives and kundalini syndrome. Krista tells the tale of fire shooting out of her body, a near death experience, seeing the face of Christ and being reborn. Anyone interested in hearing how this non-religious, cussing, non-God gal found herself in the midst of dying on the cross?

Hear how the story unfolds and leads to a spontaneous chakra clearing with a medical crisis in the wake. Can anyone say boob explosion?

Krista is not alone in this phenomenon as Katherine has had a similar experience. Find out what life changes Katherine made in the aftermath of her awakening.

Dive into the bizarre yet common symptoms of spiritual awakening…💋

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S2 Ep21: Cheater Cheater Nov 20, 2019

When Katherine and Krista interview Sharon Pope all sorts of things come to light!

Sharon is a certified Master Life Coach and Seven-Time #1 International Best-Selling Author on love and relationships. She has been featured in many publications including the New York Times, and is most recently the author of Stay or Go: How to Find Confidence and Clarity, So You Can Fix Your Marriage, or Move Forward Without Regret!

Sharon has developed somewhat of a specialty as a non-judgmental coach who can hear her client’s stories of betrayal and cheating. Are they the same thing? What is really beneath the decision to “step out?” Listen as the gals relate their own experiences and those of others they know while Sharon sorts through lots of juicy questions and has some brilliant nuggets to give to all Holy Fuck listeners! Discover the role of intuition on the “cheating journey.”

Krista has some good pearls of wisdom that has Sharon taking notes as the conversation steers towards empowerment and speaking up for our needs.

The Gals conversation leads to questions of: What is an affair anyway? Does “just the tip” count? Is an affair the kiss of death? What is the juicy secret that is necessary for reconciliation?

With close to 50% of women and 60% of men admitting to what they call cheating, The Gals are thinking that many our audience will have some of these questions too!

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S2 Ep20: Intimate Partnership Nov 15, 2019

Krista is interviewing a very special guest about her newest book “Intimate Partnership ~ The Essential Guide to Feeling Sexy, Connected, and Whole." The book actually launches tomorrow and is available for free on Amazon for TWO DAYS!!! Check it out! (don’t buy it with one click, just free)

Listen while this special guest is revealed!

As Krista reads her bio, see if you can guess who it is!

What is this book about? Intimate Partnership, of course.

This book is written as a love letter to women (and couples) who want to re-kindle the sexy and get the most out of their partnerships!

Packed with ideaS! And yes, practices, to take your intimacy with yourself (!) and your lovers to a new level!! This book talks about sex, love, romance, and intimacy, and how those vital components must be in your partnership to create the best connection and the most pleasure for both of you!

In this episode the Gals will be getting the down low on the secrets of hot and holy partnerships, diving in with playfulness, flexibility and somewhere a long the line, someone mentions … cellophane.

Once your sex life is firing on all cylinders, get ready to hear the biggest secrets of this book which the Gals and you, (if you are listening) are hearing about for the first time ever, today!

The book launches tomorrow! It is being featured at this event by the publisher, register for the event to get a free copy, link in bio. .💋

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S2 Ep19: At Play In The Throne Room Nov 06, 2019

In episode 19, Krista might sound like a spoiled brat but if you listen long enough, an intelligent moment of maturity might be revealed…
What’s a girl to do when the King leaves the castle? Well, find a sexy Knight- that’s what! But will that cause trouble in the kingdom or tantra on the throne? As Krista remembers a powerful dream, she realizes her Inner Queen is taking a stand and is ready to claim her crown. But just as she does, her “King” leaves the castle. Instead of feeling sorry for herself, she embraces the gallant knight who enters her chamber to please, entertain and fulfill her every desire. Should the High Court send them to the gallows, or will her King be benevolent and grateful that his Queen is being attended to in his absence?
Katherine unveils her theory of the courtly stages of relationship as the Gals weave a fairytale full of courtly archetypes with Krista sitting high on her barstool, looking for Knights and Jesters to fulfill some of her “needs” while her King is out conquering the world. On the other side of the countryside is Queen Katherine getting all her “manly” needs met with King Delicious and all her “queenly” needs met as she dreams of having handmaidens waiting on her hand and foot.
Speaking of Truth, whose truth are the Gals following? As they toss around the idea of stages of maturity and growth in relationship, the Gals take a closer look at what they need and reveal their own particular stages. If you listen to the end, you might just discover YOUR regal archetype!💋

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S2 Ep18: Vacation in Paradise? Oct 30, 2019

In episode 18 the Gals follow Katherine on vacation … she dutifully took Krista’s saucy book with her hoping that it would work its magic, but found something else needed to be attended to first.

As Katherine and Mr. Delicious got to the beautiful island of Kauai, what did the Goddess of Volcanic Fire have in store for them?

The Goddess Pele is reputed to have had a turbulent romantic relationship with her lover. Despite her power, he was able to transform her lava rock into fertile soil… What was the name of the restaurant where Mr. Delicious wined and dined Katherine on the last night of vacay? You guessed it! Lava Lava.

Pele definitely had her way as their dreams of a blissful sacred union were dashed. With some serious news from home and their own struggles tossing them like two ships moored together in a big storm, their romantic fantasies turned into hot, volcanic explosions- and not in the sexy way! Did they survive their Pele-like experience?

Listen to hear what happens when our two star crossed lovers get tossed out to sea, learn to ride the waves, and discover the life saving choice that brings them safely back together on the shores of the fertile ground of love.💋

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S2 Ep17: Faking It Oct 23, 2019

What is the “it” that you fake? Well, you will get to hear how Krista fakes it loud and clear! As the Gals explore relationships and partnerships they land in a very sticky place!

What is happening between Katherine and Mr. Delicious? When she wakes up on their 7th month anniversary in tears, she realizes that it’s time to dig deep. She knew that something was off. She knew that nothing felt quite right. But is she brave enough to speak about what is going on inside her little anxious being?

As Katherine wonders what is “wrong” with her and why she is feeling disconnected and unwilling to “spread the love” she wonders how on earth is she going to the tell the truth when she doesn’t understand the feelings she is having or where they are coming from?

We have all heard that the truth will set you free. Listen as the gals discover the scary moments of truth telling and how it all worked out for Katherine. Or did it?

Be Brave. Spread the love peeps.💋

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S2 Ep16: The Queen Has Left The Hive Oct 16, 2019

In episode 16, Krista exposes her dirty little secret.. Will she disappoint the listeners with her revelation? Or will she inspire them to a new level of authenticity?

As Katherine and Krista do a follow up to Krista’s online Bumble journey, she reveals the latest in her swipe right adventure! Has it been full of sexy, honey milk baths or has the sting of reality created trouble in the hive? The girls talk honestly about honesty and Krista exposes the ways in which she has been hiding the truth from the listeners. Is she a complete phony or is she protecting her loved ones?

The gals also giggle over Krista’s complicated relationship status as she comes to the conclusion that” it’s not all black and white!” Katherine on the other hand has a completely different set of “boxes”, ones with the intention of “locking it down.” But if locking it down means eternity, is she really ready? Listen to find out which box Katherine definitely won’t be checking (unless she moves to another state), and see why Krista is judging her unique relationship status (or should we say “statuses?”) This episode is definitely Buzzzzzworthy!💋

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S2 Ep15: Blue Lips Sink Relationships Oct 10, 2019

In episode 15, the gals say “hell no” to compromise as they talk romance, sacrifice, and the inevitable outcome of resentment. Many of us ladies (and men too) grew up learning to sacrifice our needs for the good of others. Why is it considered “nice” to sacrifice for others when all it does is hurt them (and for sure us!) in the end?

Katherine has a big ask for Mr. Delicious. Does he say yes to her request out of obligation or does he find a way to consciously provide for her needs and his? This is where *Power Coupling Katherine’s first book, starts to take hold. Her position (!), is that both partners can truly be empowered and in Love!

Krista on the other hand finds herself knowingly sacrificing her needs by justifying, justifying, justifying her sex life away! How long will she continue this tendency before the resentment sets in? OR is the resentment already there?

Listen to the gals of Holy Fuck as they uncover the damage that is done when we sacrifice even a tiny spec of ourselves for love. When we refuse to sacrifice, the sex gets hot and no one has blue lips (or blue balls anymore!)

* Katherine’s book Power Coupling; Coming Together When Things are Falling Apart available now Free as an eBook on her website! www.katherinemcclelland.com get yours today!)💋

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S2 Ep14: A Name To Know Oct 10, 2019

In this episode, The Gals take a serious look at rape and our culture of blaming the victim or looking the other way.

They dedicate this episode to Chanel Miller AKA Emily Doe, also known as the woman sexually assaulted while unconscious outside a Stanford party by Brock Travis 4 years ago. If you have or haven’t heard of this case, this young woman will break your heart with her story and we are here to support her and all women who have been hurt, harmed or endangered in anyway to stand in their voices and speak the truth.

Now in her mid 20’s, after 4 years of trauma and eventual healing, she has written a book. She has stepped out of the shadows of the anonymity that has surrounded her and is now proudly standing tall in the telling of her experience. Her book Know My Name was released September 24.

Katherine and Krista talk about how hard it is to speak up about deeply personal experiences with those who care for us, and notice the monumental amount of bravery it takes for a young woman who has been sexually assaulted to speak on her own behalf in the public eye.💋

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S2 Ep13: Anxious In Love Sep 25, 2019

Wondering why your relationship is fraught with stress and anxiety? Or are you enjoying the bliss of a peaceful partnership? In episode 13, the gals discuss the book that is blowing Krista’s mind, and giving them their next opportunity to explore themselves in partnership.

In the book, “Attached,” Amir Levine and Rachel Heller share the three types of people in relationship: Secure, Anxious, and Avoidant. Listen as the girls discuss how their relationship tendencies of ebb, flow, push and pull are creating harmony, chaos and everything in between.

They may also create a little sexual tension… but at what cost?

Katherine and Krista get to wondering, can your “type” mature? Mr. Delicious is showing signs of possible avoidant tendencies … (although to be fair, it’s a more mature, more secure version of avoidant) and Katherine is on the anxious spectrum (albeit maturing and more secure). Even though the book warns us not to pursue this unhealthy combo healthy, Katherine and Mr. Delicious are bringing their more healed versions of themselves to the party and proving that the tools of spiritual growth really do work.

As for Krista, she is discovering how her Anxious aspect has been challenged in the world of Avoidant personalities not only in dating but with her children, family and marriages.

Both gals recognize that less healed versions of themselves spark matches from hell while their more mature versions create matches made in heaven.

Which type are you? Listen and find out!💋

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S2 Ep12: Choosing In Sep 18, 2019

As Katherine is freshly home from the “meet the parents” trip, Krista begins cross examining her on the status of her partnership with Mr. Delicious. Katherine is committed to knowing who this man is which in turn makes it necessary for her to truly know herself. Is Katherine in a needy, dependent mode or has she left that behind? For the first time, Krista hears the difference between relationship and partnership and has an a-ha moment about her past choices and present reality. Listen to find out if you in a Relationship or Partnership and what the heck the difference is!💋

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S2 Ep11: Bumblin' Around Sep 11, 2019

Living in a small town makes it really hard to find someone your friends haven’t screwed! That’s why Krista’s ego feels assaulted as she realizes her life has brought her to the point of adding a dating app to her phone.

In episode 11, Katherine and Krista discuss online dating as a spiritual journey as Krista describes the process of preparing her bio for Bumble. She struggles with summarizing herself in five words, finding the perfect picture and whether she knows herself enough to “sell” herself. Wouldn’t it be easier if Katherine would just write it for her? What should she put in her bio and what is she afraid to say? And is the thing she is most scared of saying possibly the thing that SHOULD be said?

Well, Katherine definitely has some advice for Krista as far as online dating goes! As Katherine recalls her online dating flop, she begs the listeners to promise to abide by her number one, online dating rule. Listen and find out what it is.💋

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S2 Ep10: Abundantly Unclear Sep 04, 2019

In episode 10, the gals get talkin’ about The Abundance Book by John Randolph Price and the profound ways in which it has shifted their lives.

What‘s the truth about abundance and where do we find it? Well, Krista keeps having the experience of abundantly creating dubious happenings while her gal pal keeps manifesting hotties with the bodies. What limiting belief is keeping Krista reliving the same old story over and over and how can she complete this phase and attract what she really wants? And what the hell does she want anyways?

On the flip side, Katherine explores her old ideas about where money comes from and whether or not she is willing to receive it directly. She explores that in the past she has blocked her receptivity and has had to have a man to bring all her “good” to her. And we aren’t just talking money, but yes, that too.

In her current relationship with 100 hours of meditation behind her Katherine is supporting a new reality; resisting the old temptations to see her good coming through a man she is looking at her ability to be open to receive. That’s making a difference in every area of her life as she embraces her ability to open up to what is coming directly through her, and see what happens.💋

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S2 Ep9: Friends With Benefits...Beneficial? Aug 28, 2019

Cozy, yummy nighttime sex with a truly good friend… what could possibly go wrong? As Krista and Katherine discuss some past “friends with benefits” experiences, they realize that only 1 out of 4 of them seemed to have been a winner. The gals get curious on this current topic and wonder, “How does it work? Or does it?

Krista has a head on collision with sadness from the loss of an important “friendly friendship” when she announces that she is going to date other men. Katherine on the other hand realizes that what one person calls friendship, the other might call convenient sex. Is the emotional fall out worth the temporary gasm? Well leave it to the gals to find out!!!

Whether there is alcohol involved or a conscious set up of boundaries, the gals get clear on friends with benefits. Can they really separate romance from sex or does it always leave one person wanting?

Tune in friends! (Without sexual benefits of course!)💋

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S2 Ep8: Pulled Up By The Ponytail Aug 14, 2019

Are you experiencing a lot of drama in your breakup? Do you notice that even though the relationship is done there can still be ongoing antagonism and emotional baggage being unearthed?

Krista and Katherine discuss times when they’ve invited unhealthy interactions with partners who have been unwilling to fully let go of the drama. Can anyone say block your ex? Have you? Or does the drama continue? What are you waiting for?

Listen to discover how Katherine and Krista were contributing to this cycle and how they’ve healed, grown and learned some key elements of standing up for themselves. What choices did they make to bring themselves into a more honoring and respectful relationship with themselves and their exes.

Find out what else is possible after healing as Katherine discusses the ways in which Mr. Delicious combines the masculine with the poet- creating a sexy, passionate polarity that drives her wild.💋

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S2 Ep7: Stop Chopping The Balls Aug 07, 2019

In episode 7 the Gals talk balls… well, emasculating them that is…

Katherine and Krista dive into the reasons they find themselves emasculating their partners and the ways it is so NOT SEXY! Does it really make us safer to bring our men down or does it leave us exposed and wanting?

The Gals discuss what you call it when you take women out of the feminine. E-feminate? Maybe not… but it sounded good in the moment.

While Krista and Katherine relate sexually as heterosexual women in their relationships, they discuss how the masculine and feminine is present in all of us in differing amounts and with differing needs.

Listen to hear what the Gals discover is a great alternative to emasculation and actually leaves their men capable of ravaging them (in the best way) … And… more importantly, them wanting it.💋

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S2 Ep6: BDE With Andrea Levoff Jul 31, 2019

We got so caught up having fun with Andrea the first time, we never got to the “Fuck” of Holy Fuck! So we are back with her chatting about flirting, truck nuts and the powerful awakening to the divine feminine … aka getting your juju back!
The Gals navigate Andrea’s journey with her, as she shares her own ups and downs of her sexual desire and expression … kids, homes and all the other trappings of life.. Can they knock the sexy out of your body?
As we reclaim it, we begin to wonder how much BDE we want? Don’t know what BDE is? Better listen and find out what this seriously BIG topic is about!
Katherine shares that at close to age 60 (Holy Fuck!), free of stress, expectation and #metoo moments, she is having the best sex of her life. Wanna hear what Katherine sounds like fully empowered? Let’s just say “BVE as an Italian kitten…”
Krista shares her mis-belief that her sex life had ended in her 30’s and what that did to her psyche and marriage. Thank God she was completely wrong!
If you are feeling a bit disconnected and perhaps a little like your sexy time has come and gone, listen to Andrea share how her BDE supports how she feels as a woman! This is a lesson for everyone!
All our love to you. Share the love. ~ the gals at The Holy Fuck Podcast!💋

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S2 Ep5: Can Love Survive Divorce? Jul 24, 2019

What happens when Krista is navigating lots of change and doesn’t do her morning meditation? Does she possibly attempt a God smack down? Listen to find out what the Universe does with that!

As Krista begins to reveal her divorce journey, The Gals look to the wounds and challenges of their divorces and see the opportunities for continued healing. How do we speak up and support ourselves AND be open, trusting and full of love? Can love survive divorce or does it always have to be adversarial?

Listen as The Gals explore the 5thchakra, shame, and the continued pursuit of love through divorce.

Tune in!💋

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S2 Ep4: The Dance of the Devil Jul 17, 2019

In episode 4, the gals get jealous!! And can you blame them with all the hot men around and the gorgeous California girls right behind them?

As Katherine explores committed relationship, vulnerability sets in. The dance floor brings its own special magic when Mr. Delicious is tangoing across the room with one too many beauties.

What is really going on? Is it intuition that he is up to no good? Or is it a sign that Katherine has a green monster camping out on her shoulder making her anxious and unwilling to take her eyes off him?

This leaves Krista re-evaluating the source of her jealousy with Rico Suave and the lack of jealousy with Nurture Man. Is jealousy an indicator of her level of engagement with each relationship?

The Gals wonder …Do we get more vulnerable the more in love we are?…Or is it a sign that something is amiss and has not been addressed?

Tune in!💋

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S2 Ep3: Dope Ass Mom Andrea Levoff Jul 10, 2019

In episode 3, Katherine and Krista get to find out what a dope Ass mom is with comedienne, blogger, influencer and sexy babe, Andrea Levoff. Andrea discusses how her journey through school helped her find her true self and step more fully into her unique passions. She also discusses motherhood as a spiritual journey and shares how she uses morning pages, visualization and the art of forgiveness to remain a Dope Ass Mom.

Andrea gives us lots of tips and tools as to how to move through fear and manifest your dreams through taking inspired action! She even shares her heartfelt dream as a way to put it out to the world and make it happen! This courageous mom is definitely transforming her life in a spiritual, sexy way!

Did someone say truck nuts??? Listen while Andrea discusses her path from momdom, rapper, comedienne, to influencer. You might even get to hear a sample of “Ice Ice Baby!”💋

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S2 Ep2: Purge The Nasty Jul 03, 2019

Change continues with Krista having the opportunity to let go yet again, and with Katherine changing past patterns by embracing more commitment and intimacy.

Rico Suave reappears for what could be the demise of Golden Eyes and Mr. Nurture Man re-enters the picture proving to be a strong contender. Krista magnificently finds her way through a minefield of potential judgments and drama.

Katherine invites Krista to wonder where her definition of love comes from. Is Krista’s definition still supporting her or does it need an update?

As Katherine opens to more intimacy she is beginning to discover the power of “rising in love” vs. the old way of “falling and losing herself in love.” In this discussion, the gals explore the trajectory of attraction, love and intimacy and the many places we “fall into” our old belief systems hindering the real experience of loving. They also explore how to go forward with our new belief system supporting us.

Listen to find out where K and K find themselves on the path to the holy grail of sacred union (can you say holy fuck?) Are they finding it? Or not …💋

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S2 Ep1: Change, Change, Change Jun 26, 2019

In the Season 2 opener, the gals change it up by getting off their couches, putting the bon bons away, and getting back on the mic. But that’s not all the change coming their way.

As Krista prepares for her daughter to leave for college and her best friend to move to England, Katherine continues to embrace the changes that new love brings, especially with her son returning for the summer. No more sex on the couch for Katherine!

Even when they are looking forward to the things that are changing, they discover they still need to honor ALL that comes with it. Listen as the gals discover how fear and other emotions can unexpectedly rear up and stop them in their tracks.

Are the gals going to live in fear around all the fucking change that is happening or are they going to slow it down, feel their feelings, let go of the drama, and embrace the excitement of something new on the horizon? Tune in peeps! 💋

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Ep39: Spring Break Apr 17, 2019

It’s Spring Break Holy Fuckers!! We are so out of here! (But not to worry we are just on holiday!)

In Episode 39, the Season One Finale, Krista’s life has hit max capacity and Katherine’s life needs some time to enjoy new love, so the gals are being led by Spirit to rest, have some fun, and possibly some sexy time (well at least for Katherine)!

It has been a wild ride this year as the Gals have got married (so to speak), and given birth to their crazy new lives! This rapid pace of expansion has Krista’s exhaustion level at an all time high so it’s time for the gals to learn a lesson in self-care, honoring their personal needs above everything else. and spending some time with their inner children. (Not to mention Spirit was totally blocking the creative flow from flowin’.)

So the gals are taking their own advice, and having some Faith (Ep:38) that a break is the natural, next step for the podcast. But not to worry! The gals are using their R&R time to regroup and vision for season 2, coming soon!

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Ep38: Faith! Living Outside The Box Mar 27, 2019

‘Cause you gotta have faith! In episode 38, the girls surrender to the unknown and allow a path of discovery to guide them to a lesson in faith. As the path unfurls, Krista discusses the continuing saga of her and Golden Eyes and the ways in which the “safety box” she has created for them is not so safe after all. Katherine on the other hand moves through some heart palpitations around commitment. As she is very much living in a committed relationship, she notices that she is feeling tender about shouting it to the world. Can the gals surrender their preconceived notions of safety and relax into the possibilities of the unknown?

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Ep37: I Like My Story...But Is It True? Mar 20, 2019

As Krista and Katherine were commiserating on the phone, the book, “I Need Your Love- Is That True?,” by Byron Katie literally jumped off the bookshelf, knocking Katherine on the head. But was the book meant for Katherine who was in the throes of new love or for Krista who was in the quagmire of breakup, struggling to find a way out of hurt and despair?

Find out how Krista stops herself from using a false story as the basis for a life changing decision ultimately creating an energy shift from calling it quits to creating possibility with Golden Eyes.

Listen and learn the Byron Katie meditative questioning process that forever changed the way Krista and Katherine view life and the many “stories” that come along with fucking being human.

And listen to the end for a “special” outtake!

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Ep36: Keeping Love Alive Mar 13, 2019

Krista and Katherine explore beginnings and endings as their relationships change form (AGAIN). Does the love survive or not? Can you let go of a relationship without letting go of the love?

Krista explores the new phase of her relationship with Golden Eyes. While digging out of their prison of expectations they find themselves in a tunnel of love. Can they relax into the journey even before they see the light? What will be waiting for her and Golden Eyes when they get there? Will it be The Best Friendship Ever or the Most Incredible Love Story of All Time? Krista is battling letting go of expectations while still holding out for the latter!

Katherine makes the self-honoring choice to shut down the Transatlantic Sexting Spree, while

opening the window for another lover to climb the ladder to her secret garden. See how the shutdown actually opened her up to more loving and having the relationship she wants in her life-Here and Now! Boy (Girl!) has she grown. This has been an interesting journey from long distance lovin’ to love in her own backyard.

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Ep35: Voulez Vous Coucher Avec Moi Ce Soir Mar 06, 2019

The gals were gifted a video by an interested party (Interested in getting to “know” Katherine better that is.)

In episode 35 the gals are intrigued by the concept of clarifying the meaning of sex with your new partner prior to having sex. “What does it mean to you to have sex with me?” With this question the Gals explore many different meanings people can attach to having sex.

The timing is perfect to contemplate this topic as Katherine is waxed and ready to see where her hot date will lead. Will they decide to just snuggle? Will breakfast be expected in the morning? Or will sex for one of them be too much of a commitment? Is it just fun or is there a spiritual experience behind it!

Stay tuned…

As for Krista, she wonders how these important questions can be used in an existing relationship to enhance a sexual partnership that has many miles on the road!

Check out “The Other Safe Sex Conversation” by Steve Bearman from the Interchange Counseling Institute

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Ep34: Revenge Angel Style Feb 27, 2019

Revenge...Is it sweet or does it eventually bite you in the ass?

Have you ever wanted someone else to hurt as much as you are hurting? Yep, like that! The little town of Ojai, CA is just the place to test your spiritual fortitude! Whether it’s the second grade teacher in the car next to you or the person you DON’T want to see, chances are that’s the ONLY person you WILL see on your walk! You’re Spirit Guides are showing you that’s the one person you need to heal with! Some will choose a gunslinger strategy like Hatfields and McCoys (shooting across Main Street) while others will be more aligned with peace building (like K & K are trying desperately to do.)

The Gals find themselves saying phrases like… “It’s not fair! Why me? Why won’t he go away? What did I do to deserve this???” It is easy to see the victim story come alive and it’s so understandable to want to hurt someone who hurts us. But it’s a lie ya’ll. K & K talk about powerlessness, gossip, and withholding sex as a type of revenge. Are you punishing your loved ones in order to have more power? The Gals know these temptations all too well! These responses feel good for a minute or two, but then they keep you in the fight! Katherine clearly relates after 10 years of ‘going around’ with a person in her life and Krista begins to look inside herself for where her projection and self-judgment is hiding as she demonstrates her real desire to find peaceful power, not against-ness and blame.

Find out what she uncovers (even though it is hard to say) and discover real forgiveness, the type of forgiveness that ends with The Gals saying “thank you” for showing them their own wounds, helping them heal into the more loving women they are today. So much so that K and K send a special message of gratitude to the men in their lives for all the love they have shared and received. This is Spiritual Gangsta work at its finest.

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Ep33: Transatlantic Sexting Feb 20, 2019

In episode 33 Katherine discusses how inspired she got from the podcast on Sexual Transmutation and how it led her to start a sexy texting spree with Mr. L. Find out whether he is up for the challenge or whether life with Katherine scares the fuck out of him.

Krista and Katherine talk about texting and how easy it is to get your knickers in a twist when your partner doesn’t respond the way you want. What does it mean when he “takes too long to respond?” If you truly believed you were worthy would someone’s text response hurt you?

Do you get hurt by the stories you make up about other people’s texting patterns?

The gals discuss when they are the most vulnerable and when they are the most playful. Men, make sure to listen to find out if your woman has the same pattern!

Find out what Krista missed out on this weekend, proving to herself that Golden Eyes doesn’t love her. Does he truly not love her or is she too busy looking for all the things he does “wrong” instead of looking for all the things he does “right?” The gals discuss how love can get tricky if one is always looking for validation that someone is going to “disappoint” them instead of looking for validation that someone is going to “surprise” them.

Find out the extraordinary healing Katherine experienced through text. What did Mr. L say that had her system having a holy moment.

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Ep32: The Invisible Feminine Feb 15, 2019

Does the absence of the feminine sound like a joke or, as the gals ask, is it possibly THE First World Problem we are facing today?

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V-Day Quickie Feb 13, 2019

In this quickie episode, Katherine and Krista create the 2019 Valentine’s Day challenge: How much love can you give?

Valentines Day is for everyone ya’ll not just the happily coupled lovers. K and K explore ways in which we can all take the pressure off and turn the sexy on (with or without a partner!) How can all of us spread more love even if we don’t have any sexy D or P on the dessert menu?

The gals share some of the good, the bad, and even some ugly from their past Valentine’s Days. Listen as Krista gets tongue-tied and Katherine gets thrown for a loop by an older woman.

Are you willing to join the challenge and be more of a giver this year?

Don’t worry! You’ll get yours. (Besides, it’s fun switching positions.)

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Ep31: Power Coupling Feb 06, 2019

Is it just us or is it gettin’ ‘Hot in Herre’?

Is sex the answer?

In Episode 31, The gals explore whether sex is just a fuckfest or if it’s really the key to opening the door to your highest intelligence.

Krista and Katherine talk about the hot topic of sexual transmutation and what it takes to do the deed. Are you just spreading your seed to the wind or are you using your powerful sexual energies to tap into your genius and your ability to create?

They explore how to focus sexual energy to manifest success while NOT sacrificing lots of hot and holy sex! Katherine is so fucking inspired by this topic that she’s figured out how to harness her sexy energy for creating, even while she’s single. Krista on the other hand, explores whether her and Golden Eyes will be able to transmute their motherfucking journey into genius.

The gals shift the emphasis from traditional male and female relationships (think husband and wife) to the masculine and feminine energies that show up in all types of partnerships. Tune in to find out the three vital components to this passionate entry point to your highest mind. Is this kind of sexual partnership the new think tank?

Find out how fostering your relationship with your lover can inspire your genius to new heights and how discarding the person who gave you the gift of sexual life force can be the undoing of your genius.

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Ep30: Wet and Wild Jan 30, 2019

Is it just us or is it gettin’ ‘Hot in Herre’?

In episode 30, Katherine and Krista talk about sensuality versus sexuality and whether we have to have one to have the other. The gals explore all the ways sensuality enhances their experience of life and how the vulnerability of sharing themselves in this way is scary even though it’s the only sure fire way to experience deeper intimacy.

Do you get turned on with red velvet and rose petals? Or are floggers and cuffs more your flavor? Trying to guess what someone will like can actually have us tripping over land mines. See which one Krista exposes.

The topic of how to turn up the heat for their men really get the gals wondering! They stumble onto a shared passion they have both previously provided for their men. And, Katherine weighs in on sensuality and the single life, keeping things hot and holy as always.

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Ep29: Opening Jan 23, 2019

In episode 29, The gals discuss why it feels like some men seem to have a magic wand to opening them and in other situations even a crowbar wouldn't do the trick!! Katherine and Krista talk about the 7 important male archetypes from the juicy book “Open Her,” by Karen Brody. They reflect on how men in their past relationships embodied certain archetypes creating a safe space to feel “open” to intimacy and sex while with other men they found themselves clamping their legs together like a mouse trap!

This podcast is for you if you are a man who can’t seem to figure out why your woman is giving you the cold shoulder OR if you are a woman who can’t quite figure out why your va jay jay is sayin’ the no no!

Did someone say emotional masturbation? Well, Katherine did! Listen and find out why!

Is your man The Poet or The Dark Knight? The Director or the Sage? Explore these traits with the gals from Holy Fuck learn what it is that will open YOU to more sex, joy and intimacy. And buy this book! It’s a must read!www.holyfuckpodcast.com

Ep28: Pro-Creating With Spirit Jan 16, 2019

Deciding between a new baby or a house remodel? Or maybe pondering the fulfillment of your life’s purpose?

Well, in episode 28, Katherine and Krista reveal that they are deciding whether they want to have a baby. Well, maybe not an actual baby but making it sexy definitely makes it much more fun to contemplate and adds some juicy bits to the conversation!

How do you know what you want? Yes or No? Stay or Go? Argh… the waiting is the hardest part! Sometimes you just gotta’ stop and get out of your own way- ya know?

Krista and Katherine discuss their experiences in the pre-manifestation stage of pro-creation, connecting with what is truly meaningful rather than the idea of what you ‘Should’ do.

Each share their own powerful experiences and how this practice of Co-Creation changed the way they approach new projects. This way of being is about asking and listening, being in the question of what wants to be birthed, and bringing your heart’s desires from imagination to reality.

And that is much more fun than choosing from “should” and then “trying” to get excited about it later. Like, have you ever dated someone you “should” like only to have it be a total bust? (You “should” want sex because you are super horny but Sex is definitely off the table because it feels like a chore?) Yeah, like that…

This is about receptivity. This is about listening. This is love in action and Spirit in motion. Something always comes. However, it’s usually NOT what you were THINKING about. Far from it…

And since K and K created Holy Fuckthis way, this podcast has turned into an actual thing! Imagination to reality- fun, heartfelt, and exciting too! They had no idea what they were doing and yet, they are having fun and exploring this Spirit inspired adventure without a map. Everyday.

Hold on to your hats. It’s a wild ride and definitely worth i

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Ep27 Part 2: Quickie Sesh! Healing After Betrayal Jan 11, 2019

In this healing quickie, Katherine facilitates Krista through the fear that was triggered as her partner, once again, leaves town. As Krista replays the past, fear from an earlier betrayal threatens to derail her intention to be loving while he is away.

In this session, Katherine and Krista demonstrate the process of self-forgiveness and the healing that is possible. This frees Krista and her partner to let go of an old pattern and stay connected across the time and space of his travels.

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Ep27 Part 1: Risky Business: Recommitting After Betrayal Jan 09, 2019

In episode 27, Part 1, Krista’s past partner has the desire to recommit to her based on a life changing experience, and Krista realizes that full commitment from both is necessary. Krista explores an opportunity to reconnect after betrayal, allowing herself honesty, presence, clarity and intuition in order to take full responsibility for her experience. Katherine highlights some of the integral steps Krista took to be free to love again, as Krista re-evaluates the issues from the past relationship and what she needs in order to consider going for round 4!

Krista shares the miraculous experience that resulted from healing and reconnection with her partner. After a brief reprieve, she is immediately faced with the next opportunity to heal and release her story in order to stay in love.

As they put the soap opera behind them, you’ll see what it takes for two commitment-phobes to fully reopen their hearts.

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Ep26: Fuck Letting Go Jan 02, 2019

In episode 26, The gals lean in as last week’s episode on “letting go” begins to get real. Katherine’s commitment to letting go creates an opportunity for listeners to see her experience of anxiety and separation from Spirit as growing pains of her spiritual expansion. Katherine and Krista demonstrate what happens when “two or more are gathered” in this healing. They reference the story of the life of Jesus and his connection to Mary Magdalene as an example of spiritual healing and personal connection with God.

The gals also discuss the deeper context of the title “Holy Fuck.” It’s not just about sex but applying the “holy” perspective to the “fucking” challenges of everyday life. Katherine notices that her own father’s anxiety in his later years could possibly have been connected to his never having let go and therefore never having known there was a “universal net” that will always catch us when we leap. This is the faith part ya’ll.

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Ep25: LET GOd Dec 26, 2018

In episode 25, the gals are excited for the potential of the New Year but realize that “letting go” is essential to manifesting their dreams. How do you let go you might ask??? Well, the gals discuss their own opportunities and experiences, giving some guidelines to this somewhat elusive concept. They invite listeners to reflect on their own mis-beliefs, judgments, stories, and forgiveness opportunities as they take on letting go in their own lives. Learn the ancient Hawaiian practice of Ho’oponopono and how Katherine intends to use it.

In a previous episode Katherine honored and brought forgiveness to a past relationship. The story continues to unfold with a “serendipitous” reconnection after many years of estrangement from a past love. Who will this mystery man be?

Speaking of mystery men, through her own exploration of letting go, Krista reconnects with an important man from her past. Having done his own work he arrives on the scene available and ready to commit. Will she be able to let go of her past hurts and judgments?

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Ep24: Holy Fuck! It's The Holidays! Dec 12, 2018

In episode 24, the gals MIGHT offer you the Top Ten Tips for a Happy Holiday, which you MIGHT be hoping would include excess and splurging in every direction. And yes, that often leads to lots of sex! (Some great, some regrettable!)
Instead, as the gals are prone to do, they are going to invite you to another holiday party plan.
Whether you are single with older children (like Katherine and Krista), coupled, or with kids, recently widowed or have lost your parents this year (as Katherine has), the Gals are stepping into it in a new way and sharing their own journeys as a way to keep you from feeling alone, resentful and disconnected. Instead, you will get the opportunity to discover YOUR perfect holiday.
Listen to find out what the gals discover about staying in the party all the way, and making your holiday dreams come true.
And, don’t worry. With this plan, you can still do all the things you love; eat, drink, be merry and have lots of sex ~ we just want you in the center of your own party while you are thoroughly enjoying yourself in every way.

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Ep23: Slow the Fuck Down Dec 05, 2018

In episode 23, Katherine and Krista open up the conversation of self-worth and how it relates to dating. Krista realizes her level of self-worth was creating a relationship with Rico Suave that matched her at the exact level at which she was valuing herself. Ouch! This helps her recognize why that iteration of the relationship needed to come to an end. As Krista’s checks in with her values and gets more clear on her worth, she immediately begins to create a different experience for herself in the dating world. During this exploration Katherine notices some differences between men and women that might also be a source of misunderstanding as all of this unfolds. What happens when Krista stays in her integrity? Will she get what she desires and can she even overcome her insecurities to actually receive it? Let’s just say her sexy, first date is the perfect opportunity for her to practice!

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Ep22: Going To The Chapel Nov 28, 2018

In episode 22, Katherine and Krista put their big girl panties on and discuss their fear around creating an empire and how expansion (and Facebook!) is challenging their sense of safety. See how all their buttons are being pushed with regards to getting legal with the biz and taking themselves seriously as business women. How will two gals who are commitment-phobes deal with partnership? Find out as you hear about the gal’s first fight and how they moved through the misunderstanding to create an even more powerful, honest partnership. Katherine also shares Gay Hendrick’s theory called the !0 second sweaty conversation!

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Ep21: C'est La Morte Nov 21, 2018

This episode might not be the sexiest but it’s definitely the most controversial. In episode 21, Katherine discusses the passing of her mother and the ways in which her mother affected her decision making in her first marriage. As the story twists and turns, Katherine has a huge awareness that she decides to share publicly for the first time. This is a very hot-button topic and it’s sure to raise some eyebrows, but the gals navigate it from the most authentic, soul-centered perspective, demonstrating how masterful they are at the skills of spiritual psychology. See how Katherine’s self-honoring choice regarding a past decision created shame that has been waiting 25 years to be healed. Observe how Krista invites Katherine into the process of self-forgiveness, creating a powerful, healing moment that frees Katherine from her hurtful, self-judgments.

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Ep20: Back On The Horse Nov 14, 2018

Krista and Katherine are changing places in the open heart department as Katherine’s last few weeks have left her heart deeply open and Krista’s experiences have left her cold, cold, cold. But not cold enough to keep her from getting back on the horse! Noticing that there may be a sense of addiction in some of the Gals past love choices, Krista adopts the Way of the Ethical Slut and turns what could be a girl’s oxytocin nightmare into a balancing act with the most important rule yet. Her partner gets politely admonished not to “fall in love” and told that it’s all about the sex baby! Find out how this all plays out and best of all, find your own rules!

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Ep19: Messy Meltdown Nov 07, 2018

In episode 19, the gals draw inspirtation from a touching poem by Christopher John Stubbs that speaks to men in a message of how to BE with their women during times of distress. As Katherine returns from an out of town visit with Mr. C, previously disclosed in last week’s episode “Long Distant Lovin', we will find out why this poem is the perfect fit. Find out if the skinny dipping and snuggling made for a sexy weekend or whether Katherine and Mr. C's plan to protect themselves put a wet blanket over the sizzle. Did Mr. C run or hold when Katherine’s “stuff” triggered her into a messy meltdown from the stories about "feeling ignored?" Do women really want men to save us from ourselves? Find out what the secret ingredient to connection was as Krista doesn't let Katherine escape the conversation without divulging the juicy deets!!!

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Ep18: Long Distance Lovin' Oct 31, 2018

Mr. L and Mr. C enter the long distance running for capturing Katherine’s heart… or is it the other way around? From 1/2 way around the world to 1/2 way across the country, Katherine spreads her men out globally. Krista uncovers a hidden truth that is operating beneath the surface in Katherine’s long distant set up, pressing the issue with Katherine until Katherine admits her secret relationship strategy. Does Katherine want to have her cake and eat it too? Are the stories she is making up in her head allowing the cake to be a tasty one? Listen and find out!

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Ep17: Past Lives Present Drama Oct 30, 2018

This is gonna get woo woo! Krista is a grown, ass woman so how come she is struggling so much with neediness and physical longing? In today’s episode of the Holy Fuck Soap Opera, 8 weeks have passed after the break up, and Krista discusses how her and Rico Suave got assistance from a past life counselor to heal the energetic ties and past life karma that have been preventing them from gaining closure on their relationship. Katherine also talks about experiencing grief after discovering her past life experience and lineage. Even if you are skeptical of past lives, there is much to consider about how mysterious tethers between two people can sometimes make breakups complicated.

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Ep16: Fuck My Feelings Oct 25, 2018

Episode 16 takes place two weeks after the “Not So Happy Ending” episode. In this episode Krista discusses falling off her spiritual pedestal into the depths of pain, loss, anger and grief. The dark days pushed Krista to the edge causing her to seek some support. Stay tuned to find out how Katherine and Krista worked the spiritual process to bring Krista back into her loving and her power.

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Ep15: Outtake of The Not So Happy Ending Oct 24, 2018

After the “Not so Happy Ending” episode, the recording was inadvertently left on, and this extremely tender moment between Katherine and Krista was captured. The tears flow as this very raw conversation continues behind the scenes. Krista commits to loving more fully in order to move through this painful experience and Katherine shows how powerful it is to BE with someone who is suffering. The gals demonstrate how loving is always the way through.

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Ep14: The Not So Happy Ending Oct 23, 2018

Two weeks after the “Fuck the Rules” Episode, finds Krista drinking a bottle of wine in order to tell the unexpected series of events that created a messy, shitstorm in her life! Of course Katherine joins her with a beer and a burp! The gals dive deep into how relationships serve as beautiful opportunities to grow but how constant growth can be emotionally exhausting. This episode is loaded with the raw, aches and pains of partnership and loneliness but also with the beauty of friendship. Krista discusses how her tribe of women lifted her up and out of her free fall.

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Ep:13 Fuck The Rules Oct 22, 2018

Is that a break up text? Listen and find out whether the honeymoon bliss is over for Krista and her new man. Perception is everything! The gals discuss validation seeking, making up stories in their heads and breaking the rules they think are keeping them safe. Katherine also gives Krista some spiritual prep before she enters into a potential breakup conversation. The saga with the mysterious man continues.

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