The Holistic Housing Podcast

Jim Johnston Returns Feb 17, 2022

Jim Johnston, NACCED Board President and Manager of Municipal Development at Allegheny County, PA Economic Development, joins the show to take a walk down memory lane. We discuss his time with NACCED and his career in community development, including Pittsburgh’s cultural transformation from an immigrant-rich steel town to a modern tech and robotics hub, and how partnerships make all the difference in successful projects. Plus, we celebrate being together for the first time in two years, and ask, when were emoticons invented? And did Kenny Rogers wear rhinestones? Laura also announces a show hiatus – we’ll see you on the other side! Follow the show on Twitter at @HousingPodcast and send us a note at podcast@nacced.org. Please subscribe and give us a five-star rating. Thank you for listening!

Adaptive Reuse in a Virtual World Jan 20, 2022

Repvblik co-founder and principal Richard Rubin joins the show to discuss how his company reimagines and transforms existing infrastructure to become workforce housing. We discuss the future of office space, how adaptive reuse helps address the labor shortage, and how to reckon with pandemic-induced questions about quality of life, as we inch our way closer to the “metaverse.” Plus, Laura learns what Branson, Missouri is, and Cameron shares some fun facts about a well-known (but maybe cursed?) Washington hotel ahead of NACCED’s annual Legislative Conference. Follow the show on Twitter at @HousingPodcast and send us a note at podcast@nacced.org. Please subscribe and give us a five-star rating. Thanks for listening!

Creating the Urban Dream with Clay Grubb Dec 19, 2021

In the last episode of 2021, Clay Grubb, CEO of Grubb Properties based in Charlotte, NC joins Cameron and Laura to discuss Clay’s career growing up in the family business (including his time as a 12-year-old mortgage collector), why cars are the enemy of affordable housing, the need for more essential housing, and how solutions truly do come from all sides of the political spectrum. Plus, what role did Lexington BBQ play in ending the Cold War? And, we debut a new question: if you were a vending machine, what would you vend?

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An Emergency, not a Crisis Nov 11, 2021

In his book, Sunbelt Blues: The Failure of American Housing, Andrew Ross examines the state of housing in Osceola County, FL. Once the main approach to Disney World, where vacationers found lodging on their way to the Magic Kingdom, the fifteen-mile Route 192 corridor in Osceola has become a site of shocking contrasts. At one end, global investors snatch up foreclosed properties and park their capital in extravagant vacation homes for affluent visitors, eliminating the county’s affordable housing in the process. At the other, underpaid tourist industry workers, displaced families, and disabled and elderly people subsisting on government checks cram themselves into dilapidated, roach-infested motels, or move into tent camps in the woods. We discuss how ineffective government planning, property market speculation, and poverty wages have combined to create this catastrophe, and what solutions are available.

Plus, in this episode, Laura continues to advocate for Christmas music out of season, and Cameron drops a Sherlock Holmes reference. Follow the show on Twitter at @HousingPodcast and send us a note at podcast@nacced.org. Don’t forget to subscribe and give us a five-star rating. Thank you for listening!

Meet Cameron Wheeler Oct 21, 2021

It’s time to meet your new co-host! In this episode, Laura interviews NACCED’s new Membership & Operations Associate, Cameron Wheeler, on his work and interests. Topics include: storytelling, federalism, fruit, livin’ simple, and just why NACCED’s local government members are so special. Plus, how DO you pronounce Wawa? And, Cameron answers just about every questions that’s ever been asked on the show, and Laura finally has a hot dog ally.

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Building With Heart Sep 17, 2021

Arroyo Village is an award-winning, first-of-its-kind community in Colorado to encompass a continuum of care for people experiencing housing instability that includes a homeless shelter, permanent supportive housing and affordable housing under one roof. In this conversation, we’re joined by two of Arroyo Village’s leaders, Laura Rossbert of Shopworks Architecture, and Dontae Latson, CEO of Rocky Mountain Communities, to discuss building using trauma-informed design to create opportunities and hope for people in need.

Plus, Laura D. reps the NHP Foundation Symposium (nhpfoundation.org) and asks, is it too early to listen to Christmas music? Follow us on Twitter at @HousingPodcast, rate, review, subscribe, and send us an email to podcast@nacced.org. Thanks for listening!

Keep Your Head to the Sky Aug 19, 2021

How do we bring agencies and governments together to achieve a comprehensive national housing strategy for the US? Atlanta Housing Authority CEO Eugene Jones, Jr. joins the show to discuss this question, bringing the perspective of a career in housing that has taken him from San Francisco to Atlanta and many places in between. We also discuss Eugene’s book, Housing Humans, and just what can be done about Atlanta’s traffic (and that Georgia heat). Plus, we celebrate the show’s four-year anniversary, Sarah says farewell, and Laura declares that the show must go on!

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Bee in the Moment Jul 15, 2021

Cache County Director of Economic Development Shawn Milne joins the show to share his perspective on what it’s like to work in in the nation’s fastest growing state, Utah. We talk the importance of housing workers near jobs, why housing should be a nonpartisan issue, and how serving in elected office taught Shawn the benefit of political moderation.

Plus, the show starts with a comedy of errors, Sarah has an announcement, and we wonder, is Shawn really just in town because he is a Freemason and needs to steal the Constitution or something? We may never know!

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The Address Book Jun 17, 2021

Why do street addresses matter? Author Deirdre Mask joins us to talk about her book, The Address Book: What Street Addresses Reveal About Identity, Race, Wealth, and Power. In this fascinating look at the history and impact of addresses from West Virginia to Kolkata and everywhere in between, we ask: why are some people resistant to having an address? How can addresses prevent public health crises? Is being unreachable a new status symbol? Will digital addresses become a thing? All that and more!

Plus, we celebrate being back in the studio together for the first time in 14+ months, Sarah is mostly uninterested in thinking about the future, and Laura needs more snacks.

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Failure is Always an Option May 20, 2021

Maggie Jones, Assistant Director for Community Development at Tarrant County, TX, joins the show to talk all things change-making. Hear what’s it been like to adapt as a local government professional providing community services during COVID, why change does not have to equal loss, and how working at a Greek restaurant was the perfect customer service training.

Plus, Maggie knows more about Jeeps than any other person on the planet, Laura enforces the rules of a new game a little too stringently, and Sarah is open to trying to the new trend of cooking cicadas. Thank you to the NHP Foundation for sponsoring this episode, and be sure to learn more about NHP’s annual symposium at NHPFoundation.org!

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An Ideal Community Apr 29, 2021

In this episode, we’re joined by Ken White, Director of Resident Services at Operation Pathways, which provides services for residents of multifamily housing. But they’re not just services – they’re resident-led programs that empower individuals and families to set goals, learn new skills, lead healthier lives, and achieve greater independence and quality of life. Ken tells us how Operation Pathways walks with these residents in their journeys, prioritizing dignity and creating community. Plus, did you see the pink super moon? What do they call sandwiches in Massachusetts? And prepare to feel completely one-upped by Ken’s pandemic hobby, which was learning how to build staircases. Wow. Find us on Twitter at @HousingPodcast, rate, review, subscribe, and send us an email to podcast@nacced.org. Thanks for listening!

Breaking the Homelessness-to-Jail Cycle Mar 18, 2021

People incarcerated more than once are 13 times more likely to experience homelessness than the general public. What can be done to break the jail-to-homelessness cycle? Urban Institute researcher Sarah Gillespie joins to discuss: why the public should care, how the housing first model provides stability and dignity, myths around homelessness, and whether homelessness really is solvable.Plus, Sarah G. has a spaghettios for adults to share, Sarah M. has pre-registered for the vaccine, and Laura is so discombobulated by daylight savings time she forgets to say the spiel at the end about subscribing (do it!). Find us on Twitter at @HousingPodcast, rate, review, subscribe, and send us an email to podcast@nacced.org. Thanks for listening!

Talking About Co-Living Feb 25, 2021

Atlanta-based PadSplit has helped over 1,000 renters access safe, stable, furnished housing, at a fixed, weekly rate. Founder and CEO Atticus LeBlanc joins the show to discuss PadSplit’s unique co-living model, serving primarily frontline and working class individuals, who are able to save money, build credit, and in some cases, go on to buy a car or even their own home. We discuss the ongoing need for zoning reform and a more equitable distribution of housing, and how now is the time to ask: do the people who serve you live in your community? If not, why – and are you willing to do something about it? Plus, Atticus shares his daily practices for staying mission-focused, Sarah recommends a life-changing alarm clock, and Laura appreciates it when dogs have a first and last name. Subscribe and rate the show wherever you listen! Send us a note to podcast@nacced.org and follow us on Twitter at @HousingPodcast.

Let Your Homeostasis be Happiness Jan 14, 2021

What, if any, role can your local police department play in addressing homelessness? Officer Mike Keen, the Homeless Outreach Program Coordinator for the Arlington County, VA Police Department, joins the show to answer that question. Officer Keen’s homeless outreach program breaks down silos between local government departments in order to assist people experiencing homelessness to acquire the services and resources they need. We talk jail diversion, crisis intervention, decriminalizing homelessness, community policing, and the value of working together. Plus, Mike picked up a new skill during COVID, Sarah wants to play the steel drums, and Laura loves squirrels (now and always). Please subscribe to the show and give us a 5-star rating! Send us a note at podcast@nacced.org and follow us on Twitter at @HousingPodcast.

The Dignity of Work Dec 10, 2020

We’re joined at the end of 2020 by Ben Hobbs, Special Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy at the White House. Ben talks his roots in Ohio (including his first business selling chicken eggs), solutions to eliminating poverty that go beyond government programs, and America’s eternal ability to resiliently recover from difficult times – even a pandemic. Plus, Sarah declines to share her number one song from 2020, and Laura manages once again to make aliens a focal point of the conversation. Joyfully recorded in-person at Podcast Village! Subscribe to the show and rate it wherever you listen. You can email us at podcast@nacced.org and follow the show on Twitter at @HousingPodcast. Thanks for listening!

Putting a Face on Who We’re Helping Nov 19, 2020

In this Thanksgiving edition of the Holistic Housing Show, NACCED members Jessica Facciponti and Joe Riddle discuss their careers in the context of diplomacy, advocacy, and recovery. Located in New York and Florida, respectively, they share on-the-ground stories about working with the public, serving as liaisons between constituents and elected officials, and their work on NACCED’s housing and community development policy efforts at the national level. Plus, there’s at least five minutes’ conversation about gravy, Sarah learns what hashbrown casserole is, and Laura learns where Arkansas is.Please subscribe and rate wherever you listen, send us an email at podcast@nacced.org and follow us at @HousingPodcast. Thanks for listening!

Do We Care Enough? Oct 15, 2020

Alan Mallach, Senior Fellow at the Center for Community Progress, joins the show to discuss what’s next for America after COVID-19, including the much-discussed future of cities, and long-term trends in work and the economic recovery. Plus, Alan shares his policy recommendations for America’s next president, Laura gives stock tips (buy outdoor heaters!), and Sarah is ensuring America’s election security. Don’t forget to subscribe to the show and give us a five-star rating wherever you listen. You can email us at podcast@nacced.org and follow the show on Twitter at @HousingPodcast. Thanks for listening!

A Good Time to Think Big Sep 24, 2020

Claudia Aiken and Vincent Reina, researchers with the University of Pennsylvania’s Housing Initiative at Penn, help local governments develop and operationalize affordable housing programs. This year, that has meant a focus on rent relief programs funded by the CARES Act. Claudia and Vincent tell us what has worked to build and communicate programs for hard-to-reach populations, how “home” means much more than physical infrastructure, and why now is a great time to bring an innovative mindset to the work of housing. Plus, Claudia has fond memories of (overly) civically-engaged bike riders in her hometown, Sarah decides to dress her dog as a ghost, and we ask, would you rather live 500 years in the future, or the past? You can find Claudia and Vincent at @ClaudiaAiken7 and @VrainBK and follow UPenn’s @WeitzmanSchool and @PennPraxis. Follow the show on Twitter at @HousingPodcast. Subscribe to the show and please give us a five-star rating!

The Scarlet E Aug 27, 2020

In this episode, your hosts are joined by Professor Emily Benfer to discuss the eviction crisis caused by COVID-19. Emily, a co-creator of Eviction Lab’s Housing Policy Scorecard, explains the circumstances that led to 30-40 million people being at risk of eviction, the downstream societal costs of housing instability, and how health, housing, and racial justice are deeply involved. We take a look at how this moment has uncovered disparity in America and provides an opportunity to reset the US’s policy trajectory toward justice. Plus, Sarah and Laura celebrate the show’s three-year anniversary, and get to see each other in person for the first time in five months! You can find Emily on Twitter at @emilyabenfer. Subscribe to the show and give us a five-star review wherever you listen, follow on Twitter at@HousingPodcast, and send us a note to podcast@nacced.org. Thanks for listening!

Housing Is Everything Jul 23, 2020

The National Network to End Domestic Violence (NNEDV) is a network of providers helping survivors heal from domestic violence (DV). In this episode, we speak with Debbie Fox, NNEDV’s Senior Housing Policy & Practice Specialist, about how different forms of housing, like shelters, safe homes, and transitional housing, are critical for DV survivors. Hear about Debbie’s early and formative experience as a care coordinator in a DV shelter, and her belief in the important work of unlearning violence as an answer to conflict. Plus, we learn about Debbie’s many musical talents and ask, what’s up with the fox stealing newspapers in Laura’s neighborhood? And are “trash bagels” the term Sarah uses for sub-par bagels, or the name of DC’s newest punk band? You can follow Debbie and the NNEDV at @theDebbieFox and @NNEDV. Follow the Holistic Housing Show on Twitter at @HousingPodcast and NACCED at @NACCEDNews. Subscribe to the show, give us a five-star rating, and send us a note to podcast@nacced.org. Thanks for listening!

The Journey to Justice Jun 18, 2020

Offender Aid and Restoration (OAR) works with men and women who are returning to the community from incarceration. In this episode, we are joined by OAR’s Executive Director, Elizabeth Jones Valderrama, who explains OAR’s upstream and downstream approach to restoring individuals to society, and fighting the roots of racism that lead to higher rates of incarceration. Learn about OAR’s partnerships with local governments, law enforcement, and volunteers, and the steps individuals and communities can take to undo, challenge and break down racism and to begin to see each other as human beings. We also learn about Elizabeth’s ten rescue cats (technically, her husband’s), and her family’s Costa Rican traditions (including music night!). Plus, everyone prepares for the real Mayan apocalypse, which is apparently this weekend. Follow OAR at @OARJustice and follow the show on Twitter at @HousingPodcast. Don’t forget to subscribe to the show, give us a good rating, and send an email to podcast@nacced.org!

Flexibility is the Name of the Game May 28, 2020

As a rising number of Americans face joblessness and homelessness due to the COVID-19 pandemic, what can be done to ensure housing stability? Emily Hamilton, Research Fellow at George Mason University’s Mercatus Center, proposes that market-based solutions like zoning reform are an evergreen solution to building affordable housing. We talk repurposing unused commercial space for housing, the ins and outs of converting a basement to an ADU, and why Emily is very pro-renter. Plus, we debut a brand new game of “or” (Alleys or rooftops? Jane Jacobs or Marc Jacobs?), discuss why the RV is summer’s hottest new accessory, and the pros and cons of quarantining in a ghost town out west. Follow Emily on Twitter at @ebwhamilton and follow the show on Twitter at @HousingPodcast. Don’t forget to subscribe to the show, give us a good rating, and send an email to podcast@nacced.org to suggest a guest or send effusive fan mail.

Pray for the Oysters Apr 30, 2020

Recorded in the middle of the COVID-19 pandemic, this show has it all: a conversation with NACCED President Mary Keating and Vice President Christy Moffett on how local governments are responding to the public health crisis, the low-down on the CARES Act, speculation about the aliens landing, and a conversation about hope. Plus, Laura asks, are oysters alive when you eat them? Listen to find out! Follow the show on Twitter at @HousingPodcast and don’t forget to subscribe to the show, give us a good rating, and send an email to podcast@nacced.org!

Alt 137 Mar 12, 2020

In this truly far-out episode, National Housing Law Project (NLHP) Director of Government Affairs Noelle Porter joins us to talk all things tenant rights. Learn how NLHP’s network of legal aid attorneys works to fight discrimination at the local level and supports low-income renters facing eviction. See if you can keep up while she covers fair housing issues like disparate impact, but also sings a song she made up about umlauts to the tune of “MmmBop.” Plus, Sarah is exasperated by panic buyers, Laura is outed as a tool for the propaganda machine (whoops), and Katelynn surprises no one with the fact that she shares avocado toast with her dog, Klaus. Follow the show on Twitter at @HousingPodcast and don’t forget to subscribe to the show, give us a good rating, and send an email about what you’re hearing to podcast@nacced.org!

Cities and Homes of the Future Feb 13, 2020

Jonathan Lawless (@JonathanLawless), VP of Affordable Housing at Fannie Mae, joins the show to talk all things urban living and design: the lifestyle tradeoffs of living in an urban center, how the concentration of jobs fuels urban growth, the upsides to manufactured housing, and why 3-D printed houses are just so cool. Plus, Jon Regales with tales of visiting the Tesla factory (robots everywhere!) and everyone wonders, will people still want to live in cul-de-sacs in 25 years? And just what the heck is aspartame, anyway?

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Solving the Problem Upstream Jan 09, 2020

Happy new year! 2020’s first episode comes in strong with the thoughtful, smart insight of Quicken Loans Community Fund VP Laura Grannemann. Since co-founding the Fund, Laura G. has been tackling some of Detroit’s most persistent housing problems. Learn how Laura’s team created an awareness-raising campaign using personal outreach between neighbors to prevent property tax foreclosures, stabilize communities and prevent homelessness. She also shares why listening, communication and humility are required for successful partnerships, along with the unexpected agricultural hobby she’ll be picking up in the new year.

Plus, Katelynn describes the breakfast of champions (bananas and Red Bull), Laura D. gets distracted by monkeys,* Sarah reveals her love for Valentine’s Day, and everyone reflects on the best way to shop (or not) in Target.

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*Proof that Laura D. did not imagine a restaurant staffed by monkeys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_24JotmPysk

The Cowboy Rides Away Dec 12, 2019

We’ve got your last episode of the decade right here!

In this episode, Steve Johnson, longtime Director of HUD’s Entitlement Communities Division, looks back on his career in community development. From sharing his favorite stories of how local governments utilize the CDBG program to creatively serve their communities, to advice for the next generation of community changers, we learn that digging in and solving problems takes everybody – the federal government, local governments, and advocacy partners like NACCED.

Plus, Steve expresses great disdain for hot dogs, the gals regale with tales of a celebratory Christmas lunch at Filomena, and everyone learns what “yerd” means.

This episode sponsored by ZoomGrants! Simple, intuitive, fully customizable online grants management software for local governments, foundations, and much more.

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Millennial Homeownership is not a Myth Nov 07, 2019

You’re in for a treat this episode, because former host Heather Voorman drops by to talk millennial homeownership, why the world needs more “third spaces” (and little libraries), and what renters and young folks can do to invest in the community they call home. Plus, Laura reveals the one thing no one will ever take from the free space in an apartment building (answer: Fritos), the gals play a community development word association game, and one very important new question is debuted. Spoiler alert: Heather knows how to make balloon animals.

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Lobsters for Thanksgiving Nov 07, 2019

Your HOME girls are back and recording in a new studio! In this episode, Sarah, Katelynn and Laura get you caught up on just what’s been going on with NACCED while the show’s been on hiatus, while also being totally wowed by their new surroundings at Podcast Village. Totes legit and profesh. Plus, Laura threatens to give out pocket Constitutions to trick-or-treaters, Sarah clarifies that her family does NOT live in a cranberry bog, and Katelynn promises to make everyone lumpia. Then everyone reveals the Twitter pseudonym they’d use if they were a politician (a la Pierre Delecto).

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We're In A Moment Jun 21, 2019

In this summer solstice edition of the Holistic Housing Show, Dr. Tiffany Manuel tells us why affordable housing is having a moment – and it’s time to move! As a messaging and communications strategist, Tiffany is a pro at teaching advocates to make their case through storytelling in order to make lasting change at the systems level. Plus, Katelynn receives a lil’ fan mail, Laura gets paranoid about airport security, and Sarah reminds everyone that Beach Sarah is way better than City Sarah.

Tiffany is the President & CEO of The Case Made and you can follow her on Twitter at @DrTiffanyManuel.

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Happy summer!

Meet Katelynn Harris! May 23, 2019

In this much-anticipated episode of the Holistic Housing Show, Laura and Sarah introduce their new co-host, NACCED’s new Policy Director, Katelynn Harris. Katelynn shares about her journey from the beaches of NC to the mountains of NC, to the affordable housing world of DC, and why her passion for housing is personal. Plus, the crew is joined by three special mystery guests – all NACCED members! – who ask thought-provoking and laugh-inducing questions of the new co-host. Also discussed: why Dolly Parton is perennial and Shania Twain “is a mood;” what policy change Katelynn would make with a magic wand (good one, Elizabeth!); and everyone learns what a Catahoula is (google it).

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Housing Opportunities Made Equal Apr 17, 2019

In this special Fair Housing Month episode of the Holistic Housing Show, Laura and Sarah are joined by Heather Crislip, President & CEO, and Monica Jefferson, Vice President & COO, of HOME of Virginia. HOME fulfills its mission to ensure equal access to housing for all people by addressing housing discrimination in all its forms. Heather and Monica share what housing discrimination looks like – including the still-prevalent practice of redlining - and HOME’s role in a significant legal case that changed the insurance industry. Plus, Laura and Sarah tease not nearly enough information about the impending arrival of their new co-host, learn what the term “fintech” means, and everyone shares their opinion on mashed potatoes. Listen carefully, and you’ll hear a new special question debuted at the end!

Also mentioned in this episode: National Fair Housing Alliance; The Color of Law; Spoonbread Restaurant (thanks for the recommendation, Monica!)

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Here’s What We Ought to Do Mar 08, 2019

In the 20th episode of the Holistic Housing Show podcast, Sarah and Laura are joined by NACCED’s own David Sacks, Community Development Manager for Henrico County, VA. David, famous to longtime listeners as a writer of complex and witty letters to the show’s hosts, shares why community development is more about moving slowly toward improvement than the one-and-done of fixing problems; the impactful experience of working with populations different than yourself; and the myth that there’s no room for creativity in local government. Plus, Sarah and Laura discuss the recent NACCED Legislative Meeting and everyone agrees that Stevie Nicks is eternally cool.

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Grow Up and Google It Feb 22, 2019

In this 19th episode, Sarah and Laura are joined by Elizabeth Strojan, VP of Government Affairs at the NYC Dept. of Housing Preservation and Development, for her second appearance on the show. Together, they commiserate the loss of former host Heather Voorman, who has moved on to a fabulous new role with the Homebuilders, and discuss who could possibly fill her shoes (must have intense love for Diet Coke). Elizabeth shares updates on NYC’s Housing New York plan and how important it is to find common ground when advocating. Plus, Sarah talks about getting certified in an inclusionary zoning workshop, Elizabeth discusses the joys of working with super smart cool people in housing (and who would play tambourine in her band), and everyone agrees that life is about being comfortable with what you don’t know. And Elizabeth answers the question, for the rest of your life, which would you rather have: a milk mustache or Cheeto fingers? The answer may surprise you.

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Rock On, Rural America Jan 18, 2019

In the 18th episode of the Holistic Housing Show, the NACCED team is joined by Housing Assistance Council (HAC) CEO David Lipsetz. A rural Midwesterner himself, David shares how HAC empowers some of America’s most impoverished rural communities to grow their capacity and thrive. Also discussed: how public policy incentivizes city living and urbanization, why rural and urban America need not be at odds, why USDA is in the housing business and why values like community and humility matter. Plus, he teaches us new words like “sniglets” and “metropollyanna.” The Angels receive more fan mail, discuss first jobs and favorite home appliances, and debut brand new, hard-hitting questions (Which would you rather fight in hand-to-hand combat – an alien or a zombie?).

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Contested City with Gabrielle Bendiner-Viani Dec 07, 2018

In the 17th episode of the Holistic Housing Show, Charlie’s Angels are joined by Gabrielle Bendiner-Viani, author of the recently-released “Contested City: Art and Public History as Mediation at New York’s Seward Park Urban Renewal Center” (SPURA). Gabrielle shares how she and her students from the New School utilized art and dialogue to engage with residents, governments, nonprofits and other partners to re-envision NYC’s SPURA area after over 40 years of displacement, demolition and stagnation. Her book asks, how can we create a public planning ecosystem where people can disagree, with respect? Visit ContestedCityBook.com to learn more and check out her work with Buscada.

Plus, we read a hand-typed letter from podcast superfan David Sacks; divulge almost too much information about our mysterious friend @AnimalHoPo (who gave us a goats-in-trees 2019 calendar, naturally); reflect on a great year, and debut a few new questions for our guests (When you see a dog, what do you say?).

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Expanding Housing for the Working and Middle Class Nov 09, 2018

In this 16th episode of the Holistic Housing Show, your venerable hosts are joined by Randy Shaw, Founder and Executive Director of San Francisco’s Tenderloin Housing Clinic and author of the just-published “Generation Priced Out: Who Gets to Live in the New Urban America.” Randy, long an advocate for tenants’ rights, and whose personal, unofficial campaign slogan is “Legalize apartments!” offers a blueprint for what cities can, and should, do to make cities more livable for working Americans, including overcoming NIMBYism, restrictive zoning and generational divides that lead to a lack of housing. Also, learn the answer to, why the heck is it called the “Tenderloin District?” And, in this special election week episode, find out which NACCED member won her city council race (oh yeah!) and what movie taglines Laura, Sarah and Heather can claim as their life’s theme (and you can, too!).

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A Call to ACTION Oct 12, 2018

This lively fall episode of the Holistic Housing Podcast opens with a special guest appearance from the listener who won our “podcast bundle” at the NACCED conference, and a discussion of things like “Can a vegetarian, in good faith, eat ants on a log?” (thanks @AnimalHoPo for the suggestion). Next, Laura, Heather and Sarah are joined by Peter Lawrence, Director of Public Policy and Government Relations at Novogradac & Company, LLC. Peter discusses his career in housing, starting with his auspicious beginning as President of the student housing co-op at his undergrad alma mater, UC Berkley. Plus, learn whether Peter can do a South African accent; who his extremely well-known mentor at the University of Chicago was (and whether this person offered him a stay in the Lincoln bedroom in later years); his work founding the ACTION campaign; and what tax credit programs, beyond LIHTC, could ameliorate America’s affordable housing needs.

Special thanks to Novogradac & Company LLC for sponsoring this episode!

Public Housing and America’s Values Sep 07, 2018

In this episode of #housingpodcast we speak with Ben Austen, author of the bestselling “High Risers: Cabrini-Green and the Fate of American Public Housing.” For Ben, the Cabrini-Green story is not just a piece of sensational American history, but the story of America’s values and a microcosm of the existential identity issues facing today’s cities: who can afford to live there? How do we build equity into communities that are constantly changing?

Plus, we kick off the show with lots of excitement about the show’s mention in a recent Washington Post article about White House staffer Ja’Ron Smith, which was based almost entirely on the show we did with him last fall. Hey-o! Then, Charlie’s Angels discuss not one, but two pickle-based seasoning methods (thanks, KFC). And anyway, does Ben think a hot dog is a sandwich – or maybe it’s a hand-wich? At the very least, we know where the best dog in Chicago is – Portillo’s, started by a former Cabrini-Green resident.

Be sure to catch Ben at NACCED’s annual conference coming up Sept. 23-26 in Minneapolis, MN, where he will be the keynote speaker and signing books. While there, you’ll have a chance to bid on a special Holistic Housing Show bundle during the silent auction – including a $50 gift certificate and t-shirt from our studio/restaurant, Chatter, and the opportunity to call into the show on a future episode!

Doug Ryan Explains It All Aug 10, 2018

In this 13th episode, Charlie’s Angels are joined by Doug Ryan. Doug, the Senior Director of Affordable Homeownership for Prosperity Now, also serves as an adjunct instructor at American University’s Department of Justice, Law & Criminology. In this wide ranging conversation, Doug discusses his experience working in local government, why homeownership still makes sense for a lot of Americans and how bringing new players into the economy benefits everyone. Plus, who is Fudgie the (ice cream) Whale? And is Doug a punk rock guy at heart? Bonus game time: Charlie’s Angels try to stump Doug with true and false facts about manufactured housing (does Kid Rock live in a manufactured home? Should you visit the RV hall of fame? Tune in to find out!). The Angels also mark the podcast’s one-year anniversary and regale the audience with tales of taking former #housingpodcast guests out to eat hot dogs at Ben’s Chili Bowl to celebrate. Many shameless plugs for the upcoming annual conference (#NACCED18!) are made.

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Building Community While You’re Building a Community Jul 27, 2018

In this episode of #housingpodcast we talk to Rachel Reilly, Director of Impact Investing for Enterprise Community Partners, about a very important economic development topic: Opportunity Zones! This new community investment incentive connects private capital with low-income communities across America. It’s new, it’s innovative, it’s got a lotta potential, and it’s coming to a census tract near you. Plus, Rachel shares what it was like serving in elected office in DC (sometimes people in the grocery store yell at you), her life-changing experience riding a train cross country for the “Millenial Train Project” and how everyone has the ability to change the world they live in, right where they are. Also, Charlie’s Angels dish on NACCED’s cowboy-tastic summer meeting in Nashville and give you tips on what to do if a wild cougar takes a nap in your living room (don’t try to remove it via telepathy).

Special thanks to our sponsor, the Regional Development Funding Corporation of Pittsburgh! https://rdfcpgh.wordpress.com/about/

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Jack of all Trades: Manuel Ochoa Jun 15, 2018

In this summery edition of the #housingpodcast, Laura, Heather and Sarah are joined by Manuel Ochoa, the Director of Federal Affairs for the National Association of Latino Community Asset Builders (NALCAB). In a career that has taken him from the DC government to HUD to the nonprofit sector, Manuel shares his experience on disaster relief, what community asset building means (wealth and business creation!) and why it’s important to be a jack of all trades in the affordable housing policy world. Plus, learn about his teenage years in Miami where he may or may not have worn shoulder pads and pink blazers, and if, given a magic wand, what he’d do to CDBG (spoiler alert: double it). Plus Charlie’s Angels discuss the absurdity of “IHOB” and other marketing campaign failures, the discovery that a Seattle hot dog includes cream cheese and grilled vegetables, and a shout out to a very special listener who has been inspired to see what she can do to address housing issues in her community.

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The One Where They Talk About South Dakota May 18, 2018

In this tenth (!!) episode of the Holistic Housing Podcast, the NACCED crew is joined by Bob Simpson, VP of Multifamily and Green Finance for Fannie Mae. Bob shares his perspective on the positive multi-generational effects of healthy and affordable housing, how Fannie Mae is investing in people and not just properties, why Fox was totally wrong to cancel “Firefly,” and why watching Star Trek is a better investment than business school (you’ll learn the same stuff). Plus, Charlie’s Angels tackle issues like whether ketchup ice cream is worth trying and whether Harry and Meghan are going to last. And don’t forget to listen all the way to the end for a special bonus conversation with one of Pittsburgh’s favorite sons, NACCED Board Member Jim Johnston, who is, as it turns out, highly superstitious when it comes to hockey.

Don’t Stop Thinking About Tomorrow Apr 27, 2018

On this episode of the #housingpodcast, the NACCED crew are joined by Diane Yentel, the oft-quoted and influential CEO & President of the National Low Income Housing Coalition. This conversation touches on everything from benefits cuts to getting out the vote, and why it’s critical to build the political will to solve issues like homelessness. We also learn that not only is Diane a pro at coalition building (and maintaining a highly relevant Twitter feed), but she’s also very good at coming up with a theme song on the spot. Plus, find out what Diane’s TED talk would be about, hear Laura do a terrible impression of a robot, and Sarah reveals she has an alternate personality that only comes out at the beach. As usual, Heather asks all the smart questions. What a show!

A Tribute to Community Development Mar 23, 2018

Recorded during NACCED’s Community Development month, this multi-perspective episode features the voices of community development professionals from across the country. In-studio, Charlie’s Angels are joined by Jennifer Daniels, Planning & Community Development Manager for Arlington, County, VA. Then, we hear from members in Salt Lake, Essex, Allegheny, Los Angeles, and Henrico Counties. Themes emerge related to the people-centered focus of community development work, the diversity of this profession (because it’s everything from rehabilitating inmates to improving sidewalks), the importance of understanding each communities’ culture, and most importantly, why we’re all in this together. Plus, Heather and Laura reveal their new theme songs, the team debates the merits of Sonic’s new pickle juice slushie, everyone celebrates the increase in CDBG funding, and we roll out some new and surprising questions, like – is ravioli a pop tart? This episode feels like a conversation with friends – typical of this great, big NACCED family!

Putting the Granny Back in “Granny Flat” Feb 16, 2018

In this extra-lively episode of the Holistic Housing Show, the NACCED team is joined by Jon Coppage, Senior Fellow at the R St. Institute in Washington, DC. Jon’s work as a researcher and speaker takes him across the country to study what makes for healthy communities, whether that’s in the availability of accessory dwelling units, a neighborhood’s walkability, or multi-generational living. Plus, learn why Jon’s hometown, Winston-Salem, really isn’t trying to kill you with its two main exports (donuts and tobacco), and how Jon may be a “Simple Man” (according to his theme song) but according to her Chinese zodiac, Laura is just “simple-minded.” The NACCED team also tries to stump Jon with a game of “Trump Quotes: Real or Fake?” Also discussed: why it’s generally good advice to avoid “ecstatic love traps,” no matter your Chinese zodiac sign.

“Debate Kids: All Grown Up (and Making Housing Policy)” Jan 19, 2018

In this episode, the illustrious Director of Public Policy for Enterprise Community Partners, Emily Cadik, joined the NACCED crew to talk tax reform, the value of mentoring and how to form coalitions. Also on deck: Emily’s experience with the famed Corn Palace of South Dakota, Laura’s experience talking about hot dogs with people in Trump Hotel, the revelation that all debate kids turn into policy wonks, and how tying housing to infrastructure is like “trying to make fetch happen

A Conversation with Derek Hyra Dec 14, 2017

In this episode of the Holistic Housing Show, the NACCED team are joined by American University Professor Derek Hyra to discuss his work on gentrification and equitable urban development in DC’s famous U Street/Shaw neighborhood. Derek discusses his book, “Race, Class and Politics in the Cappuccino City,” and the how true social integration in a newly gentrified area will lead to a prosperous neighborhood. Plus, learn what it means to “live ‘The Wire;’” what it was like to run for Congress and why a NACCED conference after party is the best after party around.

R-O-C-K In the USA Nov 17, 2017

On the 4th episode of the Holistic Housing Show, Charlie's Angels are joined by Charlie himself: Chuck Robbins, the Director of Housing and Community Development for Clackamas County, Oregon. Chuck shares his love of not just great Oregon beer, but also public service, and how his involvement with NACCED connected him with incredible housing experts across the country. Plus, we discuss the eternal question: when is it just too soon to listen to Christmas music?

The Ja’Ron Smith Guide to Self-Actualization Oct 27, 2017

On this episode, Sarah and Laura are joined by Ja’Ron Smith, the Director of Urban Affairs and Revitalization at the Executive Office of the President. Ja’Ron shares how his experience growing up amidst poverty in Cleveland shaped his determination to make a difference in Washington, where he now works in the White House on domestic policy issues ranging from infrastructure to prison reform. Learn about the administration’s goal to bring all voices to the table when it comes to developing affordable housing policy that works, what Tupac can teach you about self-actualization, and just how desperate Laura is to attend the White House Christmas party.

Katy Perry, Meditation, and Tax Reform Sep 29, 2017

On this episode of the Holistic Housing Show, the NACCED team is joined by Eric Enderlin and Elizabeth Strojan from the New York City Housing Development Corporation. Eric, NYCHDC's President, and Elizabeth, NYHCD's Director of Government Affairs, share what led them to work in affordable housing, why access to fair housing matters for all people, and what's so great about the LIHTC program. Plus, find out what their theme song is! And why does Elizabeth like jazzercise so much?

Cliff Taffet Kicks it Off Aug 18, 2017

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In the Holistic Housing Podcast’s inaugural episode, Laura, Heather and Sarah are joined by Cliff Taffet, who recently retired after 26 years at HUD, where he served as General Deputy Assistant Secretary. We asked what led him to HUD (spoiler alert: avocado farming), what he’d do with a magic wand and his advice for a younger generation. You don’t want to miss it!

The Holistic Housing Podcast brings together thought leaders, policy makers and program implementers across the affordable housing, community development and economic development field. Guests discuss their experiences and solutions on topics like gentrification, workforce development, homelessness, urban revitalization, sustainability, placemaking, the American Dream and so much more. Through these conversations, we illustrate how housing affects quality of life and in turn, every individual’s ability to lead a successful life.

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