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Episode 244 - Insights from the Maryland State Police Part 1 Mar 24, 2025

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Welcome to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, and in partnership with Vertical Valor Magazine.

In this two-part series, host Jon Gray welcomes members of the Maryland State Police at the 2024 ECHO Public Safety Aviation Conference in Richmond, Virginia.

During the conversation, we discuss the importance of networking and education in public safety, and personal journeys into aviation and law enforcement.

The guests share insights into their roles as trooper paramedics, the challenges of maintaining proficiency in a large unit, and the unique considerations involved in transporting and caring for K-9s.

The discussion highlights the significance of collaboration among agencies during emergencies and the value of training and experience in the field.

This conversation explores the various aspects of public safety enforcement aviation, focusing on canine transportation missions, recruitment and retention challenges, paramedic training, multi-agency responses, and DUI enforcement experiences.

The speakers also share insights from their military backgrounds and discuss the complexities of operations involving the Coast Guard and other agencies.

Thank you to our sponsors Precision Aviation Group, Robinson Helicopter and Wysong Enterprises.

Episode 243 - "The Gap" Factory Training vs. Advanced Specialty Training Part 2 Mar 20, 2025

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Welcome to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS and in partnership with Vertical Valor Magazine.
In this two-part series, hosts Jon Gray, and Tony Webber host a conversation on the urgent need for mission-specific training for pilots and aircrews in public safety aviation.
Join us as we discuss the critical gaps between factory training and the specialized skills required for various mission sets, such as aerial firefighting and hoist rescue operations.
Our guests, who are all Hangar Z alumni, include SR3’s Dave Callen and Rob Munday, and Riverside County Sheriff Aviation’s Mike Calhoun.
The conversation shares personal insights and experiences, emphasizing the importance of leveraging existing knowledge and resources to enhance training programs that ensure safety and efficiency in the field.
We will navigate the intricate world of helicopter training, covering everything from cost-effective solutions and original equipment manufacturer (OEM) training to the challenges of securing approval for specialized instruction.
As we explore the complexities of multi-mission agencies and special operations, we’ll discuss the balance between utilizing autopilot systems and maintaining essential hand-flying skills, all while highlighting the significance of preparation and sound decision-making in high-pressure situations.
This conversation is a call to action for professionals in the field to embrace continuous learning and collaboration. Whether you’re a seasoned pilot or hoist operator or new to public safety aviation, you won’t want to miss the invaluable insights shared in this episode.
Thank you to our sponsors BLR Aerospace, Precision Aviation Group and SHOTOVER.

Episode 242 - "The Gap" Factory Training vs. Advanced Specialty Training Part I Mar 17, 2025

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Welcome to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS and in partnership with Vertical Valor Magazine.
In this two-part series, hosts Jon Gray, and Tony Webber host a conversation on the urgent need for mission-specific training for pilots and aircrews in public safety aviation.
Join us as we discuss the critical gaps between factory training and the specialized skills required for various mission sets, such as aerial firefighting and hoist rescue operations.
Our guests, who are all Hangar Z alumni, include SR3’s Dave Callen and Rob Munday, and Riverside County Sheriff Aviation’s Mike Calhoun.
The conversation shares personal insights and experiences, emphasizing the importance of leveraging existing knowledge and resources to enhance training programs that ensure safety and efficiency in the field.
We will navigate the intricate world of helicopter training, covering everything from cost-effective solutions and original equipment manufacturer (OEM) training to the challenges of securing approval for specialized instruction.
As we explore the complexities of multi-mission agencies and special operations, we’ll discuss the balance between utilizing autopilot systems and maintaining essential hand-flying skills, all while highlighting the significance of preparation and sound decision-making in high-pressure situations.
This conversation is a call to action for professionals in the field to embrace continuous learning and collaboration. Whether you’re a seasoned pilot or hoist operator or new to public safety aviation, you won’t want to miss the invaluable insights shared in this episode.
Thank you to our sponsors Aerodyne Electronics Manufacturing, CNC Technologies and Metro Aviation.

Episode 241 - The Role of Airbus and Loft Dynamics in LAPD Operations, with Chief Pilot Kevin Gallagher Part 2 Mar 13, 2025

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Welcome to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Vertical Valor Magazine.

Thank you to our special sponsor Airbus for making this recording possible.

In this two-part series, hosts Jack Schonely and Jon Gray highlight how the Airbus AS350 series helicopters make LAPD’s mission sets possible through a conversation with LAPD’s Air Support Division chief pilot, Kevin Gallagher.

In this series, Kevin shares how his early interest in law enforcement propelled him into the world of air support, providing valuable insights into his training experiences and the challenges faced in this demanding role.

We talk about the critical skills that contribute to success in air support, discussing the transition from tactical flight officer (TFO) to pilot, the significance of higher education in aviation, and the evolving nature of crew resource management.

Kevin will also shed light on the pressing challenges the LAPD faces, particularly in staffing and recruitment, while emphasizing the vital role of the Air Support division in ensuring effective law enforcement operations.

We explore topics such as aviation safety, training protocols, and the collaboration between air support units and other emergency services.

We also discuss how the Loft Dynamics H125 simulator will transform training and safety at LAPD and beyond.

Thank you to our sponsors Airbus, Garmin and Onboard Systems Hoist & Winch.

Episode 240 - The Role of Airbus and Loft Dynamics in LAPD Operations, with Chief Pilot Kevin Gallagher Part 1 Mar 10, 2025

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Welcome to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Vertical Valor Magazine.

Thank you to our special sponsor Airbus for making this recording possible.

We explore topics such as aviation safety, training protocols, and the collaboration between air support units and other emergency services.

We also discuss how the Loft Dynamics H125 simulator will transform training and safety at LAPD and beyond.

Thank you to our sponsors Airbus, Dallas Avionics and Onboard Systems Hoist & Winch.

Episode 239 - From Combat to Creativity: The Story Behind Helo Girls™ and Aviation Advocacy Part 2 Mar 06, 2025

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Welcome to The Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS and in partnership with Vertical Valor Magazine.
In this two-part series, hosts Jon Gray and Jack Schonely talk with Kodey Bogart. During this series we explore Kodey’s career and impact within the aviation industry, highlighting her remarkable path from military service as a Black Hawk pilot to her current role as an industry safety expert and author.
During the conversation, Kodey shares her insights on the critical importance of safety practices in aviation, the vital role helicopters play in emergency response, and the growing collaboration between drones and helicopters in disaster situations. We discuss the significance of community service, particularly in the context of hurricane responses.
Kodey reflects on her time in flight school and her military deployments, emphasizing peer support and the evolution of crew responsibilities. She recounts memorable missions, the unique camaraderie formed during high-stress situations, and the challenges faced during the transition to civilian life from the military.
We also dive into the pressing issues within law enforcement aviation, such as recruitment and retention, and explore advocacy for women in aviation. Kodey also discusses her children's book series, Helo Girls, which aims to educate and inspire children.

Thank you to our sponsors CNC Technologies, Garmin and SHOTOVER.

Episode 238 - From Combat to Creativity: The Story Behind Helo Girls™ and Aviation Advocacy Part 1 Mar 03, 2025

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Thank you to our sponsors Anodyne Electronics Manufacturing, Metro Aviation and Wysong Enterprises.

Episode 237 - Baja Racing and Law Enforcement Aviation Part 2 Feb 27, 2025

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Welcome to The Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS and in partnership with Vertical Valor Magazine.
In this two-part series, hosts Jon Gray and Jack Schonely talk with Eric Hannum, who is not only a law enforcement pilot but also a chase pilot for a professional off-road truck team racing in the SCORE Baja series in Mexico.
Eric shares his journey with the Riverside County Sheriff's Department, emphasizing the critical importance of personal connections in recruitment and the need for aviation units to collaborate with patrol officers.
Our conversation explores the concept of cognitive diversity within the field, as Eric and Jack share their personal experiences and insights—from the lessons learned in jail facilities to impactful incidents that have shaped their careers. We’ll also touch on the innovative training approaches being implemented in aviation programs.
Eric talks about off-road racing in Baja, California, which highlights the importance of teamwork and preparation. We discuss the complexities of tactical flight officer (TFO) training and what it takes to select the right candidates for this critical role.

Thank you to our sponsors Canyon AeroConnect, Summit Aviation and Trakka Systems.

Episode 236 - Baja Racing and Law Enforcement Aviation Part 1 Feb 24, 2025

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Welcome to The Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS and in partnership with Vertical Valor Magazine.
In this two-part series, hosts Jon Gray and Jack Schonely talk with Eric Hannum, who is not only a law enforcement pilot but also a chase pilot for a professional off-road truck team racing in the SCORE Baja series in Mexico.
Eric shares his journey with the Riverside County Sheriff's Department, emphasizing the critical importance of personal connections in recruitment and the need for aviation units to collaborate with patrol officers.
Our conversation explores the concept of cognitive diversity within the field, as Eric and Jack share their personal experiences and insights—from the lessons learned in jail facilities to impactful incidents that have shaped their careers. We’ll also touch on the innovative training approaches being implemented in aviation programs.
Eric talks about off-road racing in Baja, California, which highlights the importance of teamwork and preparation. We discuss the complexities of tactical flight officer (TFO) training and what it takes to select the right candidates for this critical role.

Thank you to our sponsors Canyon AeroConnect, Summit Aviation and Trakka Systems.

Episode 235 - Tim Tucker: A legacy of 54 years in aviation Part II Feb 20, 2025

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Welcome to The Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Vertical Valor Magazine.

In this two-part series, hosts Jack Schonely and Jon Gray are thrilled to welcome Tim Tucker, a seasoned aviator with an extraordinary 54-year career in aviation.

Tim shares compelling stories from his time flying the Bell Huey helicopter during the Vietnam War, detailing the unique missions of the 57th Assault Helicopter Company, famously known as the Gladiators. This episode offers a deep exploration of military aviation and the personal experiences that shape a pilot's career.

As the conversation unfolds, Tim discusses the complexities of inserting and extracting recon teams in hostile situations, the vital role of fast movers in support missions, and the importance of crew trust during combat. He also reflects on his transition to flight instruction, his contributions to the Robinson R22 helicopter's development, and his impactful collaboration with Frank Robinson.

We'll hear about the evolution of helicopter training and safety courses that have significantly reduced instructional accidents, his experiences with foreign pilot licensing, and the key lessons learned throughout his extensive career. Tim talks about his role as a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) designated pilot examiner, highlighting common mistakes pilots make during check rides and the necessity of understanding airspace regulations.

With memorable anecdotes and practical safety tips, this episode is packed with insights for every helicopter enthusiast. Join us in celebrating Tim's achievements, including his recent induction into the Flight Instructor's Hall of Fame, and learn about the innovative techniques he's championed throughout his remarkable journey.
Thank you to our sponsors Precision Aviation Group, SHOTOVER and Vertical Magazine.

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