The Habit

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Daniel Grothe Thinks Small. Dec 06, 2021

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Daniel Grothe is a pastor, a rancher, and the author of The Power of Place: Choosing Stability in a Rootless Age. In this episode, Daniel Grothe and Jonathan Rogers talk about embracing obligation, the value of thinking small, and the possibility that God is a materialist.

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Jill Phillips Goes Deeper Into Love. Nov 29, 2021

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Jill Phillips is a singer-songwriter and the star of the Gullahorn Happy Hour along with her husband, Andy Gullahorn. She’s also a Marriage and Family Therapist. Jill will soon be releasing a new album called Deeper Into Love, a collection of songs that take a journey through grief, healing, and redemption.

In this episode, Jill and Jonathan talk about the gap between the truth and how it feels, integration and disintegration, and going boldly into the house of grief.

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Carolyn Leiloglou Follows the Rules (Sometimes) Nov 22, 2021

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Carolyn Leiloglou writes books for children. Her picture book Library's Most Wanted was a 2021 WILLA Award Finalist. She was also a 2018 finalist for the Katherine Paterson Prize. Her poems and stories have appeared in children's magazines around the world, including Highlights, Ladybug, Cricket, and Clubhouse Jr.

In this episode, Carolyn and Jonathan discuss rule-following, characters who take themselves too seriously, and other things.

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Carolyn Weber was surprised by Oxford. Nov 15, 2021

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Memoirist Carolyn Weber is the author of Surprised by Oxford and Sex and the City of God. This conversation between Dr. Weber and Jonathan Rogers was recorded in front of a live audience at New College Franklin, where Dr. Weber is a professor. They discuss St. Augustine, spiritual memoir, and the idea that "selection is the hardest part of creation."

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Elizabeth Harwell on The Good King's Feast Nov 08, 2021

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Elizabeth Harwell's new book is The Good King's Feast—An Invitation to the Lord's Table. It's a picture book that helps children understand Communion. In this episode, Elizabeth and Jonathan Rogers discuss writing for children and what it means to invite them into a story that they are already a part of.

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Luci Shaw and Ned Bustard Put the O in Hope Nov 01, 2021

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Luci Shaw is one of the great living Christian poets. She has been a pioneer and a role model for generations of other writers. Her poem, "The 'O' in Hope" has become a picture book illustrated by Ned Bustard. In this episode, Luci and Ned speak with Jonathan Rogers about generativity, metaphor, the changes in Christians' attitudes toward art and creativity in recent decades, and other matters.

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Hannah Hubin on Collaboration Oct 25, 2021

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Hannah Hubin is a writer, poet, lyricist, and the originator of All the Wrecked Light, a stage show that explores Psalm 90 through song and spoken poetry. In this episode, Hannah and Jonathan discuss collaboration as a way of reaching beyond one's own limits and what it means to pray, "Establish the work of our hands."

Hannah is in the middle of a Kickstarter campaign to produce a studio album of All the Wrecked Light. Find out more at kickstarter.com/projects/hannahubin/all-the-wrecked-light.

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Sad Stories Told for Laughs: Dave Barnes Oct 18, 2021

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Dave Barnes is a singer-songwriter, a standup comedian, and a cohost of the Dadville podcast. This episode, the 2021 finale of the Sad Stories Told for Laughs series, was originally released in video form as part of the Rabbit Room's onllne conference, Hutchmoot: Homebound. In this episode, Dave talks about awkward radio promotions, disastrous shows, and doing standup comedy for patrons who thought they had come to hear music.

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Sad Stories Told for Laughs: Don Chaffer Oct 11, 2021

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Don Chaffer is a singer-songwriter (Waterdeep), a composer-lyricist-librettist (Son of a Gun, The Unusual Tale of Mary and Joseph's Baby), and a professor (Lipscomb University's School of Music). His stories are often sad and often funny—and often at the same time. In this "Sad Stories Told for Laughs" episode, Don Chaffer talks to Jonathan Rogers about the difference between embarrassment and shame, ironic distance, and other matters.

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Alan Noble Says You Are Not Your Own. Oct 04, 2021

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Alan Noble is Associate Professor of English at Oklahoma Baptist University and editor-in-chief of Christ and Pop Culture. His new book is You Are Not Your Own: Belonging to God in an Inhuman World. Tim Keller has said “Alan is, I hope, the beginning of a new generation of scholar-writers who can bring the insights of [more esoteric thinkers and philosophers] down to earth and apply them in the most practical, compelling, and helpful form.”

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