The Grill Room

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Graydon Carter’s Golden Years Apr 29, 2025

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The one and only Graydon Carter, architect of Vanity Fair’s golden era, joins Dylan for a candid conversation about the magazine industry's past, present, and future. Fresh off the release of his new book, ‘When the Going Was Good,’ Carter reflects on his legendary tenure with VF, dissects the publication’s decline after his departure, and grapples with the broader headwinds facing today’s media industry writ large. He also offers reasons for optimism, his vision for his digital-forward venture Air Mail, and much more.

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Google’s D.O.J. Showdown & YouTube-NFL Murmurs Apr 25, 2025

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Julia Alexander returns to The Grill Room to chart the media industry’s biggest flashpoints: the D.O.J.’s landmark-in-the-making legal battle against Google and the implications for its ad-tech empire; the tantalizing potential of a YouTube–NFL alliance; and Brendan Carr’s escalating campaign against the media.

The Grill Room Podcast is presented by bp. See all the ways we’re investing in America: https://www.bp.com/InvestingInAmerica

Jen Psaki in Her Prime Time Apr 22, 2025

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MSNBC’s Jen Psaki joins Dylan for a candid convo about her next chapter: hosting the network’s forthcoming nightly show. With today’s political discourse more combustible than ever, Psaki reflects on how she’s drawing from her tenure as White House press secretary to navigate a political-media ecosystem in overdrive. She also dishes on what it takes to cut through the noise in today’s oversaturated landscape—and why thriving in the chaos means doing everything, everywhere, all at once.

Zuck’s Trump Trial & F1 Deal Chatter Apr 18, 2025

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Julia Alexander reunites with Dylan for a deep dive into the media industry’s most compelling flashpoints: Formula One’s fantasy of a $180 million rights deal, the growing anxiety around non-football sports rights, Mark Zuckerberg’s F.T.C. showdown, and more. As Julia explains, with audience engagement plateauing, streaming giants are under pressure to reinvent the playbook—because where engagement lags, monetization follows.

The Grill Room Podcast is presented by bp. See all the ways we’re investing in America: https://www.bp.com/InvestingInAmerica

Who's Afraid of Michael Wolff Apr 15, 2025

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The inimitable Michael Wolff stops by The Grill Room to discuss his new profile in New York magazine of Warner Bros. Discovery C.E.O. David Zaslav. Wolff digs into his head-spinning financial incentives, how Zaz became an “accidental media mogul,” and the challenges WBD faces from tech giants like Amazon and Netflix. Then they speculate on the future of the media businesses and CNN’s place in the shifting landscape.

The Grill Room Podcast is presented by bp. See all the ways we’re investing in America: https://www.bp.com/InvestingInAmerica

MrBeast Recession Signals & MLB Ratings Moneyball Apr 11, 2025

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Puck’s resident streaming guru Julia Alexander swings by the pod to discuss a handful of hot-button media topics: the MLB’s crafty use of the “torpedo bat” to boost ratings, the challenges and opportunities for CNBC in the looming SpinCo era, and the early signs of stagnation in the creator economy.

The Grill Room Podcast is presented by bp. See all the ways we’re investing in America: https://www.bp.com/InvestingInAmerica

C.E.O.s and Market Woes Apr 08, 2025

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Bill Cohan stops by the Grill Room to diagnose the anxiety plaguing media executives as MAGA’s economic “detox” takes hold. Bill and Dylan discuss the $11 trillion market loss since the election, the global headwinds to corporate earnings, and whether consumers are due for another bout of inflation—a perfect storm that is tickling the media industry’s 2008 era PTSD.

The Grill Room Podcast is presented by bp. See all the ways we’re investing in America: https://www.bp.com/InvestingInAmerica

Zuck’s UFC Move & Trump Ad Market Shock Apr 04, 2025

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Julia Alexander joins Dylan for a wide-ranging symposium on the state of the media industry: the future of TikTok, Meta’s UFC play, Radhika Jones’ exit from Vanity Fair, the impact of A.I., and how Trump’s global trade war is ricocheting through the advertising market.

The Grill Room Podcast is presented by bp. See all the ways we’re investing in America: https://www.bp.com/InvestingInAmerica

The Washington Media Whisper Network Apr 01, 2025

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Jon Kelly swings by The Grill Room to chronicle the current media moment in Washington D.C.--the evolving major players, the business models, and the after hours schmoozing that lubricates the whole town.

The Grill Room Podcast is presented by bp. See all the ways we’re investing in America: https://www.bp.com/InvestingInAmerica

The Atlantic’s Goldberg Mine Mar 28, 2025

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In this special crossover episode with The Powers That Be, Dylan connects with Peter Hamby to discuss the chatter swirling around The Atlantic, which made headlines this week after E.I.C. Jeffrey Goldberg revealed that he was added to a group chat filled with high-ranking national security officials discussing war plans. They discuss why the imbroglio has boosted the magazine’s reputation among the political and media elite, before turning to what CNN’s latest hires reveal about Mark Thompson’s digital transformation master plan.

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