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    Government

    The GovNavigators Show

    Welcome, everyone, to the The GovNavigators Show – a government focused show that won’t make you seasick. 

    We hope to enlighten and enliven your week with news and insightful, entertaining guests all on the topic of government management.

    Check out more at www.govnavigators.com 

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    Copyright: © 2026 The GovNavigators Show

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    Latest Episodes:
    Pop-up Episode: Honoring the Labor Movement Sep 01, 2025
    Show notes

    In this special Labor Day pop-up episode of the GovNavigators Show, Adam and Robert reflect on the importance of the labor movement, tease some big news for the Navigators family, and preview what’s ahead as Congress returns to town. With the fiscal year’s end approaching, expect debates over rescissions, reconciliation, the NDAA, and the President’s Management Agenda—plus the looming possibility of a government shutdown.


    Jason Miller on the Future of Federal Procurement Aug 25, 2025
    Show notes

    This week, the GovNavigators welcome Jason Miller, Executive Editor at Federal News Network, for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of federal acquisition and IT leadership. From the long-awaited FAR overhaul and GSA’s contracting shifts to the evolving role of the federal CIO, Jason unpacks what these changes mean for agencies, industry, and small businesses alike.

    Show Notes

    OMB: Improper Payments Memo

    EO: Improving our Nation Through Better Design

    Events on the GovNavigators' Radar

    August 25, 2025: A Hole in One with ACT-IAC

    September 16-18, 2025: Partnership for Public Service’s GovHR Conference

    September 18, 2025: GAIN 2025 (Marketing Conference)


    Unlocking Federal Real Estate: Efficiency, Partnerships, and the Path Ahead Aug 18, 2025
    Show notes

    This week on the GovNavigators Show, Adam and Robert sit down with George Guszcza, President and CEO of the National Institute of Building Sciences, along with Tom Scott and Paul Firth of Alvarez & Marsal, for a timely discussion on modernizing federal real estate. From shifting work patterns and aging infrastructure to public-private partnerships, our guests highlight the challenges and opportunities facing agencies today.

    Show Notes
    OPM Award Guidance
    Jason Miller Op-Ed: DHS Contract Reviews
    DOJ Guidance
    New Grants Guidance

    Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
    Celonis: Public Sector Process Intelligence Day (08/19/25)
    Data Foundation: Virtual AI Forum: Data and Policy in the Age of AI (08/20/25)
    ACT-IAC: A Hole in One (08/25/25)


    Remember the Mission: Darren Ash Reflects on His Career in Public Service Aug 11, 2025
    Show notes

    This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam meet with Darren Ash, former federal CIO of multiple agencies, most recently at the Department of the Interior. Ash shares wisdom gained over an expansive career in government, including how IT innovation can transform public service.

    Show Notes

    NEW EO: Improving Oversight of Federal Grantmaking

    GSA: Adding Leading AI Software to Award Schedules

    GAO: Ruling on DOT Impoundment

    NIST: Updated Digital Identity Guidelines

    FOR ADAM'S FELLOW EM-DASH LOVERS: Wisdom from Poe


    Events on the GovNavigator’s Radar

    August 19, 2025: Celonis’ Public Sector Process Intelligence Day

    August 20, 2025: Data Foundation’s AI Virtual Forum: Data & Policy in the Age of Artificial Intelligence (Nominate presenters by 7/31 here; register here.)


    Empowering Public Servants with Karen Lee Aug 04, 2025
    Show notes

    Karen Lee, co-founder of FedsForward, joins the GovNavigators to talk about her journey through federal service, the challenges of transitioning in and out of government, and how her organization is building scalable tools to help civil servants navigate career change.

    Show Notes

    FedsFoward Website

    The Data Foundation

    FCC Rural Healthcare Program


    Upcoming Events
    August 5, 2025

    • Data Foundation’s Evaluating for Efficiency: Lessons from GAO and IGs

    August 19, 2025

    • Celonis’ Public Sector Process Intelligence Day

    August 20, 2025

    • Data Foundation’s AI Virtual Forum: Data & Policy in the Age of Artificial Intelligence

    Understanding Federal Procurement Consolidation with Brian Friel Jul 28, 2025
    Show notes

    This week, the GovNavigators sit down with Brian Friel, Co-Founder of BD-Squared, for a discussion on how federal procurement looks in the age of consolidation. An expert in procurement data, Friel offers great insight into how past efficiency efforts have led us to this administration's push to rid the federal government of duplicative and unnecessary contracts.

    Show Notes:

    • Leadership shakeup at GSA
    • M-25-31 (OMB memo on procurement consolidation)
    • America's AI Action Plan
    • Three AI-related EOs released

    Events on the GovNavigators' Radar

    July 28-29th: AGA’s Professional Development Training

    July 30th: Rare HSGAC markup scheduled

    August 5th: Data Foundation’s Evaluating for Efficiency: Lessons from GAO and IGs

    August 19th: Celonis’ Public Sector Process Intelligence Day

    August 20th: Data Foundation’s AI Virtual Forum: Data & Policy in the Age of Artificial Intelligence


    The Performance Playbook with Nick Mastronardi Jul 21, 2025
    Show notes

    This week on the GovNavigators Show, Nick Mastronardi, founder and CEO of Polco and a former Air Force economist, joins the show to talk about transforming local government with data. Nick shares his journey from national security to civic tech, explains how cities are using performance metrics to make better decisions, and reveals what 400 jurisdictions have taught him about trust, ROI, and the power of listening at scale.

    Show Notes

    • Government Finance Officers Association
    • Bloomberg Cities Network



    The Past, Present, and Future of FEMA with Eric Leckey Jul 14, 2025
    Show notes

    This week on the GovNavigators Show, Adam and Robert dive in with Eric Leckey, former Associate Administrator for Mission Support at FEMA, about the state of emergency response management. With hurricane season upon us and the administration considering big changes to the agency, Eric reveals how FEMA has adapted overtime, and offers valuable insight into what may be on the agency's horizon.

    Show Notes

    • Kerr County Relief Fund
    • FEMA Review Council

    Events on the GovNavigators' Radar

    July 17th: GovExec Government Efficiency Summit

    July 17th: Shared Services Leadership Coalition Webinar


    From OMB to IRS: Danny Werfel on Making Reform Stick Jul 07, 2025
    Show notes

    This week on the GovNavigators Show, former IRS Commissioner Danny Werfel joins us to unpack the Trump administration’s rapid-fire push to modernize the IRS—and what gets lost when speed outruns strategy. Drawing on decades of federal service, including senior roles at OMB and DOJ, Danny reflects on his team’s detailed IRS transformation plan, contrasts it with today’s approach, and raises big questions about transparency, workforce cuts, and cybersecurity risks. Plus, a bonus deep dive into the future of financial reporting under M-25-30, the limits of paperwork-based oversight, and why civics literacy might be the government’s most underrated reform tool.

    Show Notes

    OMB: M-25-30

    IRS: IRS FY25 Budget Justification

    JHS: Johns Hopkins School of Government and Policy

    GAO: GAO Report on IRS IT Modernization


    Pop-up Episode: Celebrating Independence Day! Jul 01, 2025
    Show notes

    The GovNavigators prepare for Independence Day weekend in this special pop-up episode of the GovNavigators Show. Unfortunately, leadership in Congress likely won't be enjoying the fireworks, as the administration insists everyone stay in town until the "Big, Beautiful Bill" is on the President's desk. Meanwhile, Russ Vought calls for a shakeup in federal auditing, and HUD gets a new headquarters.


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