Gwyneth Paltrow and goop’s Chief Content Officer Elise Loehnen chat with leading thinkers, culture changers, and industry disruptors—from doctors to creatives, CEOs to spiritual healers—about shifting old paradigms and starting new conversations.
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“The reality is challenging, and then, of course, our fears about what might happen magnify immensely the actual situation,” says psychiatrist James Gordon, MD, author of The Transformation. Gordon returns to The goop Podcast to offer strategies that can help us during periods of prolonged stress: We learn how the amygdala and vagus nerve react to anxiety and how to ease it. Because stress can impact our digestive system, Gordon outlines mindful eating habits. He recommends certain supplements (like daily probiotics, vitamin D3, and omega-3 fatty acids) to help us maintain balance. He takes us through soft-belly breathing and a short meditation, and he explains other ways to release deep emotional tension through movement (shaking, dancing, chanting). Also helpful: laughter. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Family counselor, school consultant, and educator Kim John Payne shares tips, guidelines, and resources to help parents and children adjust to this new normal. Kids feel safe, says Payne, when they sense their parents are in charge—even, and perhaps especially, in uncertain moments. Start smallish, suggests Payne: Declutter your home. Remove obvious triggers. Creating a calming environment can reduce feelings of disorientation, says Payne, which he believes are at the root of so-called misbehavior. For kids who are currently out of school, Payne says, it’s important to set up rhythms and rituals at home that mimic the structure they’re used to. But also: Be easy on yourself. Embrace boredom. It’s a doorway to deep creativity. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We need people who are willing to turn within and see: How am I part of the problem?” says global activist Layla Saad. The New York Times–bestselling author of Me and White Supremacy has become known for helping people examine—and talk about—the ways we unconsciously uphold racism. White supremacy may not be something you’ve chosen, says Saad, but it’s in the water, and it’s conditioned all of us in myriad ways. The critical inner work that Saad inspires can be difficult and messy, but it is so necessary. “The payoff is that you get to live out your values,” says Saad. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Our relationships are the foundations on which we build everything else,” says Vivek Murthy, MD. And when they’re strong, he believes there’s nothing we can’t face together. The former surgeon general of the United States joins Elise Loehnen from the front lines of the COVID-19 pandemic to share what we need to prioritize right now. He outlines the three things hospital systems require to function well (space, equipment, and people) and how to best support them. He traces the expected impact the coronavirus pandemic will have on adults, children, and the economy. He explains the importance of testing and how it guides our public health efforts. And he also shares a few moving stories that remind us of ways we can be present, connect, and show up for others who need help. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We don’t deal with grief enough,” says Jhené Aiko. Today, the LA-born-and-raised singer and songwriter plays GP new tracks from her album Chilombo (which she translates roughly to “wild beast”). They talk about the ways sound healing—specifically, singing bowls—have aided in Aiko’s grieving process. And how we can find different ways to make space for our emotions and move through trauma. Aiko tells GP how she’s learning to live as herself, fully. “I’ve always been a little wild,” says Aiko. When making Chilombo, she wanted to be unafraid to express all parts of herself—confidence, grace, a peacefulness, and a wildness, too. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
In this special episode, Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Matt Richtel highlights what he learned about the immune system while researching his latest book, An Elegant Defense. Host Elise Loehnen asks him how these lessons apply to us today as we try to slow the spread of the coronavirus and stay healthy. Our immune system, says Richtel, doesn’t need a boost as much as it needs balance. “Stress, sleep, and nutrition are the three ways we best understand to keep our immune system in balance,” says Richtel. Listening to him made us feel a little less stressed and convinced us that staying present right now and using tools (like, say, a daily meditation practice) could help pull us through this time. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
The Vagina Monologues author and playwright Eve Ensler joins Elise Loehnen to share her heartbreaking, honest, and hopeful story of healing her personal trauma. Ensler wrote her new book, The Apology, as a letter from the perspective of her late father, who sexually and physically abused her throughout her childhood. She describes her deeply transformative writing experience, how it felt like she was channeling, and why she believes the imagination is sometimes more accurate than anything else. She talks about how our culture would change if we received the apologies we were owed and how we all carry some kind of wound. Facing our trauma, Ensler says, is worth it, because on the other side are the love, the pleasure, the freedom we deserve. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Award-winning investigative journalist and New York Times–bestselling author Gerald Posner is telling the wild, true, and urgent story behind America’s now trillion-dollar-a-year pharmaceutical industry. In Pharma,Posner begins with the Sacklers: Before they became the family driving the rise of Oxycontin, they orchestrated the birth of medical advertising and all the monetization that came after it. Moving forward in time, Posner tells us how menopause became medicalized for profit in the ’70s—with devastating health consequences for women. And in the present day, Posner reveals the underbelly of health care, including the ways bribery can interfere with patient care. It’s not all doom and gloom, though: Heroes emerge, and Posner reveals that even dark, complex figures like Arthur Sackler did some good. And after all he’s learned, Posner is able to look at the scope of our current health care and offer solutions for a better future. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“There is always something one can do,” says former UN ambassador Samantha Power. The Pulitzer Prize–winning author of The Education of an Idealist shares her extraordinary story: As President Obama’s former foreign policy and human rights advisor, she’s spent time both in war zones and in the situation room. She knows the internal struggle of feeling that the world should be different than it currently is. Power teaches us the strategy she’s used to slice outsize problems into bite-size pieces by “shrinking the change.” She talks about the universal sensation of feeling small (and what to do about it), the power in fear (and rejecting fearmongering), and why it’s so important for women to be involved in political issues. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“When we see a woman who stepped out of line, we want to put her back in her cage,” says Glennon Doyle. The New York Times–bestselling author of Untamed and founder of Together Rising joins Elise Loehnen for a conversation about the moment she decided to stop abandoning herself. Like many of us, Doyle spent the majority of her life feeling that she had to be “good.” And then she quit pleasing so that she could be free. Today, Doyle shares a recipe for bravery and a new definition: Being brave is not being afraid and just doing the daring thing anyway, says Doyle. Being brave cannot be judged by anyone else. It can only be felt by you. “Being brave,” says Doyle, “ is hearing your inner voice on the inside and speaking it on the outside.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We’re fighting ourselves to get to a goal instead of getting into a flow state to get there,” says holistic nutritionist and author of Body Love Every Day Kelly LeVeque. As a health coach, LeVeque is familiar with the uncomfortable pendulum swing many of us feel we’re stuck in. She helps her clients make peace with—and celebrate—their food choices. In the process, they let go of guilt and shame, create healthy lifestyle habits that last, and follow a way of eating that’s nutritious and doable and never about deprivation. In this episode, LeVeque also shares her “fab four” smoothie formula and answers questions about weight loss, hunger, hormones, and supplements. For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Ibogaine made them ready for change,” says researcher Deborah Mash, PhD. Mash has been studying the effects of ibogaine since 1992. A psychedelic compound derived from the bark of a shrub native to western central Africa, ibogaine is being used as a potent addiction disruptor (specifically for opioid use). Ibogaine may have the power to reset opioid tolerance and bypass many of the withdrawal symptoms that people endure when coming off of these drugs. Mash shares the extraordinary stories, people, and challenges behind the science, the studies, and the funding. And: what the future of ibogaine as a treatment for drug addiction might look like. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“The trauma was playing out in my decisions because it hadn’t healed,” says spiritual writer Lalah Delia. The author of Vibrate Higher Daily joins Elise Loehnen to share her journey out of survival mode and back to herself. Today, they talk about knowing your energetic worth, rediscovering circles of healing and ways to hold communities together, and what happens when we allow our energy to express itself freely. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“The thing all great ideas have in common,” says Kevin Systrom, “is that they all seem crazy at the beginning.” The cofounder and former CEO of Instagram joins GP to tell her how he created one of the most popular companies in the world—and what we can learn from it. They talk about mistakes, taking chances, what you don’t knowyou don’t know, being a leader, and leaving room for creativity when you’re trying (hard) to achieve a mission. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Why do I have to be super sweet to get something done?” asks Issa Rae. The actor, writer, and producer of Insecure joins Elise Loehnen to talk about owning our power as women. Rae admits that she used to avoid speaking up—but now recognizes how important it is to use her voice to make change. She is honest about how much power she feels she has in our current culture and the progress we still need to make. Rae shares her passion for telling stories and her goal to “stay grounded and relatable.” Rae and Loehnen talk about insecurities and being awkward—and what that even means and how it affects us. (After you listen, be sure to see Rae’s newest project, The Photograph, in theaters now. And for more info, head to The goop Podcast hub.)
“The fear is kind of like the gas in your tank,” says Julia Louis-Dreyfus. The actor and producer sits down with GP to talk about motherhood, family life, how she looks back on her career (Second City, SNL, Seinfeld, Veep), and where she’s going next. They talk about marriage and what makes a relationship get “cozy” over time. They talk about acting, humor, laughter. And they talk about their experiences with post-partum depression. Louis-Dreyfus shares the mindset she cultivated when she was diagnosed with breast cancer. And, she tells us about her newest project Downhill, which she produced and stars in, and which comes out on Valentine’s Day. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“This generation of women has worked very, very hard,” says writer Ada Calhoun. “And yet, not everyone has what they want.” The author of Why We Can’t Sleep joins Elise Loehnen to talk about the pressure to be perfect. They talk about the ways women—particularly Generation X women approaching midlife—have taken on the stresses of caregiving, building a successful career, and having enough money. They talk about why many of us live in a state of fear and anxiety, and how we can support ourselves and others to shift out of this space. It’s okay to be frustrated, Calhoun reminds us. It’s okay to start putting ourselves first. And knowing that we “can do anything” doesn’t mean we have to do everything. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
The good news, says New York Times–bestselling author Seth M. Siegel, is that we know how to fix our water systems and we can afford to do it. The bad news is there’s a lot wrong with the water we’re drinking right now: We still use the same water technologies that were put in place a century ago. Lead contamination in water pipes is still affecting the majority of our water lines. Remnants of medicines and pills can make their way into our water. To fix a problem, we have to know there is a problem. But information on the safety of our water, and water testing, is kept from the general public. And parallel solutions like bottled plastic water tend to cause more harm. According to Siegel, we have both the capital and the technology to save our water for good—we just need to demand change. Head to Siegel’s website to get involved and if you’re in Los Angeles, come see him at goop Lab the evening of February 26. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“You don’t need to wait for biotechnology,” says William Li, MD. “Foods can actually activate and boost our body’s health defenses.” The Harvard physician and author of Eat to Beat Disease reports on the remarkable things the body is capable of when food and medicine are used in tandem. He explains which foods have powerful properties that can help us prevent and heal from illness. For example, Li says that mangoes can support our circulation and stem cells and feed our microbiome (our bacteria like the fiber). The peels of fruits like apples and pears can help grow blood vessels. Dark chocolate can mobilize stem cells. Coffee—yes—can protect telomeres and help them grow longer, reversing cellular aging, says Li. And that’s just some of the good news he shares. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“What part do I play?” asks Robin DiAngelo, academic and author of White Fragility. DiAngelo’s critical, urgent work asks us to question what we thinkwe know about racism, the conversations we avoid having about racism, and the roles we might (unintentionally) be playing in upholding inequality. For example, says DiAngelo: “We white women have to stop using sexism to protect racism.” In this conversation with Elise Loehnen, DiAngelo calls on white people to let go of guilt and to pick up responsibility. When you break free from the urge to defend yourself and start doing the inner work: It can be fantastically liberating, says DiAngelo. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Valter Longo, PhD, author of The Longevity Diet, sat down with Elise Loehnen at In goop Health to share what he’s learned about our ability to optimize our health largely through diet and lifestyle changes. Longo, who is the director of the USC Longevity Institute, continues to conduct a wide range of fascinating research on different forms of fasting: What kind of fast is safest? How does fasting affect the body? Could particular forms of fasting have beneficial outcomes for particular health concerns? (Some of this research contributed to the development of ProLon, a five-day fasting-mimicking meal kit that is growing in popularity, in part because you actually eat during the program.) Beyond fasting, Longo explains what he believes to be the best way to eat (and when) based on the research. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“My job is not to tell you something,” says BJ Miller, MD. “My job is to help you receive something.” The palliative care physician and coauthor of A Beginner’s Guide to the End joined GP on stage at In goop Health. He brought his dog, Maysie, which you’ll hear them talking about. Miller shared his own incredible personal story and wise insights about what it means to live a good life and die a good death. GP asked him about dealing with regret (which Miller says is normal and nothing to be ashamed of) and becoming comfortable with—even grateful for—what’s outside of our control and knowledge. And they talk about connection: “One of the most beautiful things we can do for each other is to be affected by each other,” says Miller. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“The reason we don’t change,” says Shauna Shapiro, PhD, “is because most of us are missing this essential ingredient of self-compassion.” The psychology professor and author of Good Morning, I Love You joins Elise Loehnen to explain why we can forget about self-esteem and why “heartfulness” may be more meaningful to you than “mindfulness.” When we find ourselves in cycles of negative self-talk, how do we pull ourselves out of it? Shapiro suggests talking to yourself the way you would to a close friend who is struggling. She also has a series of tips and tools for training our minds and bodies to feel and remember the positive, the beautiful, the surprising, and the magic in life. “It takes about twenty to thirty seconds to encode a positive experience into our long-term memory,” says Shapiro. Listen to find out how. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We can decouple shame from your sexuality,” says sex therapist Michael Vigorito. Vigorito joins Elise Loehnen to talk about how removing judgment can help us reframe our thinking about sex, desire, and the label: sex addiction. Vigorito prefers the term “out of control sexual behavior.” It doesn’t mean that someone is out of control, necessarily, but that they feel out of control. Often, Vigorito finds that problematic patterns of sexual behavior can be a disguise for other, deeply rooted issues—which he helps clients get curious about and untangle. In this episode, he also helps us carve out a space for ourselves, our partners, and even our children to feel safe while exploring the varied layers of sexuality. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Most humans live as if past and future—and especially future—were more important than this moment,” says renowned spiritual leader Eckhart Tolle, author of The Power of Now and A New Earth. In this special conversation with GP, Tolle teaches us how to not resist our experience of the present moment, and why the feelings that we do resist have a way of—persisting. GP asks Tolle about the relationship between the ego and soul, and how we can come to see that we are not our thoughts. Tolle explains how we can release pain-bodies—an accumulation of old emotions. And of course they talk about the meaning of it all: “The world is not here to make you happy,” says Tolle. “It’s here to make you conscious.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub. And check out this free seven-day program with meditations by Tolle and Kim Eng.)
“Do what only you can do with your particular talents, gifts, and flaws,” says Jennifer Freed, psychological astrologer and author of Use Your Planets Wisely. In this episode, Freed joins friend Elise Loehnen to explain how we can use astrology to explore our own divine possibilities and potential. Freed reminds us that we are all a work in progress—moving away from primitive behaviors and toward our evolving selves is not a linear path. But regardless of how winding the path is, Freed believes we all have specific roles to play in making the world a better place. And that astrology can help us understand our roles—and show us new ways to relate and connect with other people. “Happiness isn’t in getting everything we want,” says Freed. “It’s having an experience of mattering to others.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Conflict is really what sharpens our ability to love,” says John Gottman, PhD, who is the cofounder, with his wife Julie, of the Gottman Institute for relationships. (They’re also coauthors of the new book, Eight Dates.)Today, they join Elise Loehnen to share the tools for communication and conflict resolution that make a relationship work. We learn about perpetual issues—and how to talk about them in a way that’s productive, instead of pushing them aside. Which doesn’t mean we get to change our partners—when we try to do this, problems tend to follow, say the Gottmans. “You don’t want to fall in love with who they want to be,” says John. “You want to fall in love with who they are.” And, according to the Gottmans, you want to build a wall around your relationship—rather than a wall between you and your partner. Oh, and find six seconds to make out every day. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Only 20 percent of our longevity and health in old age is genetically determined,” says David Sinclair, “The rest is up to us.” The Harvard genetics professor and author of Lifespan joins Elise Loehnen to break down the science behind the aging process and our well-being. He explains why it’s good for us to experience “biological stress,” how we can absolve harmful stress, and which supplements and health interventions he believes will keep us young, and which he predicts will forever change the future of medicine. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Not only do we feel connected to one another, but we feel connected to something bigger than ourselves,” says Kelly McGonigal, health psychologist, Stanford University lecturer, and author of The Joy of Movement. Collective joy, McGonigal says, is what happens when we move our bodies in unison. It can help us reduce stress and anxiety, quiet our minds, maintain our health—and even makes us feel better about humanity. When we let go of the idea of exercise as something to help us lookbetter, we can tap into the pleasure of movement and feel good. It is through moving our bodies, McGonigal has found, that we are able to connect to our spirit and reveal our true selves. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Investigating what’s underneath the rage can help us then articulate—more clearly—our values,” says Rhonda V. Magee, professor of law at the University of San Francisco and author of The Inner Work of Racial Justice. Magee sat down with Elise Loehnen at In goop Health and gave a master class on how we can remain grounded, compassionate, and true to ourselves in a world that often feels complex, difficult, and divided. She teaches us how to explore our feelings based on what’s happening in our bodies, to reframe our thinking, and to learn what is sometimes hard for us to see. Keep listening to the end, when Magee explains how to use the four steps of RAIN: recognize, accept, investigate, non-identification. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Cleo Wade—poet, activist, and author of Where to Begin—joins Elise Loehnen to talk about why she’s hopeful. She reminds us that simple words can turn into bigger actions. She helps us identify the things that get in our own way, which are often self-inflicted rules we impose on ourselves and each other that simply don’t work. We have a responsibility, Wade says, to tell our stories—and to find ways to open up to the stories of others. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We’re not just fully human,” says theologian Meggan Watterson. “We’re also fully divine.” In her book Mary Magdalene Revealed, Watterson explains why the recovered gospel of this controversial figure—which was ordered to be destroyed in the fourth century—has the power to change the way we see our history, present, and future. Together, Watterson and Elise Loehnen examine the roots of femininity and how women throughout history have always grappled with their sense of self-worth. They talk about love, why we’re worthy of it, and our responsibility to express it: “What would love be,” Watterson asks, “if we didn’t have things to practice love on?” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“It’s not as simple as choosing not to care—you’re caught in a bind either way,” says Alicia Menendez, MSNBC anchor and author of The Likeability Trap. Menendez joins Elise Loehnen to talk about why many women are presented with two options: being a good leader or being liked. She urges us to stop responding to situations with the hope we will be more liked. And instead, she suggests that we ask ourselves whether we are being clear with our vision and executing it well. Through her research, Menendez has identified principles that good leaders follow—which sometimes means making decisions that other people don’t like. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Courage is not an absence of fear,” says Mellody Hobson, co-CEO and president of Ariel Investments. “It’s overcoming it.” Hobson, who experienced financial instability throughout her childhood, set out to understand money. And once she did, she decided to spread that knowledge to help others feel financially empowered. Hobson believes in the power of women: When we surrender our dreams of being rescued by someone else, we realize how powerful we can become. She also believes that diversity isn’t just “the right thing to do.” Creating and fostering a more diverse workplace, where your conference rooms reflect the world outside, is the smart thing to do. Together with Loehnen, Hobson explores how we can see, understand, and embrace difference—and at the same time, not allow difference to influence how we consider a person. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Sophia Bush—actor, activist, and host of the podcast Work in Progress—joined Elise Loehnen on stage at the last In goop Health summit of the year. “You’re very often reduced to the thing that’s the least interesting about you,” Bush said, “because it makes other people feel comfortable when they’re in the presence of successful women.” It can be scary to leave the box that other people put you in. It can be intimidating to use your voice or platform for social change. And it can be challenging to really listen to people you disagree with. But Bush proves that this is all also thrilling, important, and incredibly rewarding. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I felt empty and alone,” says Demi Moore, “but oddly not lonely.” The actor and author of the new memoir Inside Out joins GP to talk about what happened after the things she had been hiding from “came spilling out.” Moore describes the process of becoming vulnerable and learning to identify the misperceptions we hold against ourselves and others. One of the biggest traps, says Moore, is needing to place blame. This can keep us from accountability, from forgiveness, from moving on. There is so much meaning to be found in our lives when we back away from binary thinking and allow ourselves to feel compassion for how complex we all are. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“How are you going to live your life in a way that is kind, and loving, and honest, and with integrity?” asks Sarah Hurwitz, former speechwriter for Michelle and Barack Obama and author of Here All Along. In her new book, Hurwitz rediscovered Judaism for herself, and today she shares some of the principles and traditions that could help anyone to create a more fulfilling life. She talks about different ways to feel spiritual, what it really means to tell the truth, and what she’s learned about gossiping. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
GP met functional medicine practitioner Alejandro Junger in 2007, and her journey into wellness was forever changed because of it. Junger, who founded the twenty-one-day Clean Program and wrote the bestselling book Clean, has a new seven-day detox protocol and accompanying book, Clean 7. And now he’s sitting down with GP to share what he’s learned about detoxification, intermittent fasting, and maneuvering around the modern inventions that tend to disrupt our body’s digestive processes and overall health. “We’re living in this interesting point in time where people want agency over their health,” says GP. Junger is the one of the healers helping us to make the most of it. (For more on Junger, listen to his goopfellas podcast episode on the roots of inflammation and head to The goop Podcast hub.)
“You don’t want to live on someone else’s fumes,” says Lisa Brennan-Jobs, author of Small Fry, abestselling memoir about growing up in Silicon Valley as the daughter of artist Chrisann Brennan and Apple legend Steve Jobs. Today, Brennan-Jobs and Elise Loehnen talk about the complicated feelings that often arise when we look back at our past—and about how we can sit with and process those feelings. They talk about learning to see our parents—and any human—as human, as multidimensional, as both good and flawed. “It’s hard for people to live their value system sometimes,” says Brennan-Jobs. But that doesn’t erase all the moments when they do. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“When you put on your clothes, how do you feel?” asks Ingrid Fetell Lee, designer and author of the brilliantly researched book Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness. Fetell Lee sits down with Elise Loehnen to explore how different sensory experiences can help us tap into our joy again. They talk about why we, as a society, tend to devalue sensory experiences and label anything that is bright and colorful as frivolous. Fetell Lee shares some fascinating studies, science, and stories that connect our physical senses to our behavior and thought patterns. And she shares the simple tools that we can all use to make our lives a little more vibrant. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“There are more and more academics and scientists becoming interested in matters that have to do with consciousness,” says Leslie Kean, journalist and author of Surviving Death. Kean joins chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about life’s greatest mysteries and the mounting evidence suggesting that consciousness is much bigger than our brains. They talk about how biology and spiritual meaning can and do coexist and what we can learn from psychic mediums. Kean shares fascinating stories about reincarnation and near-death experiences as well as a little bit about her coverage of UFOs (which she also wrote a book about). “The more I learn,” Kean says, “the more I realize how much I don’t know.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I was fully stuck in this neurotic paradox,” says life coach Sasha Heinz, who has a PhD in developmental psychology. That paradox might be familiar: “I do what I don’t want to do, and I don’t do what I want to do.” In this episode, Heinz sits down with Elise Loehnen (who happens to be an old friend) to talk about breaking free from mental blocks. Our thoughts, Heinz reminds us, are optional. And typically the thing between us and the outcome we want is a mind-set gap. Heinz shows us that we don’t always have to react to life—that we have the capability to create our future, and even to blow our own minds. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“There is a source energy that runs through all of us that animates us,” says Jill Blakeway, acupuncturist and author of Energy Medicine. Today, Blakeway joins Elise Loehnen to talk about the integration of Eastern and Western medicine and what she’s come to understand about the power of acupuncture and different forms of energy healing. She explains what happens when our qi is blocked—dysfunction—and how we rebalance the body and the mind (often in relation to each other). And she shares incredible stories of healing and extraordinary studies (one about a machine that reacts to human thought) that will fascinate both believers and skeptics. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Our cohosts, Gwyneth Paltrow and Elise Loehnen, sit down with Megan Twohey and Jodi Kantor—coauthors of She Said and the New York Times investigative journalists who won the Pulitzer Prize for their reporting on Harvey Weinstein. As part of their research, Twohey and Kantor interviewed many women, GP among them. Today, these four women are having a different kind of conversation and reflecting on the stories behind the story. Their intimate back-and-forth is a poignant reminder of why we need to create and protect a culture in which we are all able to voice the truth. “I just want people to know that the powerful don’t always win, that facts can prevail, that stories matter,” says Kantor. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“There’s a space between people that we just have to take a risk and just leap and see how we can connect,” says Joel Salinas, Harvard Medical School neurologist and author of Mirror Touch. Salinas has mirror-touch synesthesia: He explains to host Elise Loehnen that he perceives his senses as mixed (i.e., he hears colors) and that he’s able to feel the physical and emotional sensations of other people—as if they are happening to him. Which is: wild. Loehnen asks him how this has changed his understanding of empathy and the ways we connect with other people. And he teaches us why we need boundaries—and how to set them. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“So much of the healing that can come to us, we can create for ourselves,” says James Gordon, MD, psychiatrist and author of The Transformation. Gordon is the founder and director of the Center for Mind-Body Medicine and a clinical professor in the Departments of Psychiatry and Family Medicine at Georgetown University. His work is redefining the way we think of trauma, which affects everyone over the course of a lifetime—physically, mentally, emotionally. Gordon takes us through a variety of healing techniques (from soft-belly breathing to something called autogenic training). And he shares the joy of what happens when we allow ourselves to cry, to laugh, to dance. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We set quarter-lifers up to fail,” says psychotherapist Satya Doyle Byock, “and then we make fun of them.” In her practice (called Quarter-Life Counseling), Byock primarily sees people in their twenties and thirties. Today, she sits down with chief content officer Elise Loehnen—a childhood friend—to talk about the universal experience of becoming an adult and trying to figure out who you are in the world. She explains what we’ve misunderstood about millennials—and every generation of young people that has come before them. And how we can all better grapple with the questions, both logical and spiritual, that tend to present themselves at quarter-life. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“The world isn’t so evil as people assume,” says Joel Stein, journalist, funnyman, and author of In Defense of Elitism. Stein joins chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about what he uncovered when he decided to investigate whypeople vote the way they do. And how he came to understand where people with very different voting behaviors were coming from. He explains his take on elitism, why a democracy doesn’t have to work best to be worth fighting for, and why he believes “there’s a healthy revolutionary attitude about questioning the people in power.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
GP sat down with Kerry Washington in front of a live audience, and they started reminiscing about going to the same all-girls school in New York City. They talked about how their education shaped the trajectory of their lives in different ways (and also about that time Jennifer Lopez was Washington’s dance teacher). Washington told us why her heart breaks a little for her eleven-year-old self and what it was like learning to navigate her feelings. She talked about the role race plays in her life and in one of her newest projects, American Son, a Broadway play turned Netflix feature. And they talked about the other roles they’ve played as actors, mothers, and stepmothers—and the experience of stepping into your power as a woman. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We need to do something different to feel something different,” says Will Cole, DC, functional medicine practitioner and cohost of the goopfellas podcast. Today, he’s talking with chief content officer and friend Elise Loehnen about why so many of us feel chronically unwell. He takes us through the roots of inflammation and the two elimination food plans designed to soothe them, outlined in his new book The Inflammation Spectrum. He explains why certain foods work for certain people and not others and how we can all identify the foods that help us feel our best—without resorting to deprivation or shame. And Cole answers some keto questions: why we get stuck in sugar-burning mode, how to burn fat for fuel, and the basis of Ketotarian, his first book and way of eating. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I have more freedom than I’ve ever had,” says Catt Sadler, journalist and host of the podcast NAKED. After more than a decade of working at E! Entertainment, Sadler, who has won three Emmys, chose to leave over a wage gap issue. Today, she sits down with chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about becoming an entrepreneur and your own boss in life. She explains why anger sometimes pushes us to take action in the right direction. And Sadler and Loehnen talk about why they believe we’re living in an age of vulnerability, about the permission we look for to just be ourselves, and about the space we need to create to have the raw conversations that push us forward. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We would much rather think than do,” says Barry Michels, psychotherapist and coauthor of The Tools and Coming Alive. He sat down with GP at In goop Health London to share his tools for letting go of negativity, for holding pain, and for doing the difficult things that bring us fulfillment. They also talk a lot about the feminine and masculine forces at work in the culture and within each of us, what happens when they get out of balance, and how we can recalibrate. Michels explains why he believes in healthy entitlement, and GP asks him how we can invite the truth into our relationships. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We’re so caught up in our own sense of not belonging,” says Elaine Welteroth, “that we aren’t even recognizing that we’re all in it together.” The former editor in chief of Teen Vogue and the author of More than Enough joins Elise Loehnen to talk about making space for ourselves and others at the office and in love. Welteroth believes that struggle and heartbreak serve a purpose and that hers have shown her that she is far more resilient than she had imagined. They talk about coming into their own as women and as leaders. They talk about race, colorism, diversity, white privilege, “the pretty privilege,” and how we can push all of these conversations forward. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We need to change the cage we’re all living in,” says Johann Hari, the author of Lost Connections. Hari struggled with depression for most of his life. For two different reasons, he was told it was all in his head. He got some relief with antidepressant medication but not enough. And as a journalist, he wanted to understand why more people were feeling the same way—depressed, anxious, disconnected, lonely. In this uplifting conversation from In goop Health London, Hari shared what he’s learned about the root causes of depression and the potential solutions. He talks about what happens when we don’t get our needs met, why “social prescribing” works, how we can let go of shame and process trauma, and the ways we can connect with one another right now. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Being alive and existing isn’t good enough,” says Dr. Robin Berzin. “We want to feel well.” The founder and CEO of the functional medicine practice Parsley Health believes that the scope of our health care system is dated, and that we need to bridge the gap between medicine and wellness. Her work melds the conventional with the traditional, and modern technology with intimate connection. Today Berzin shares her take on lab testing, diet, supplements, genetics, the future of personalized care, and more. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We may think we know when people are lying, but basically we have no clue,” says Malcolm Gladwell, journalist and New York Times–bestselling author of Talking to Strangers, The Tipping Point, and Blink. Gladwellexplores the assumptions we make as a culture—and debunks them. Elise Loehnen, our chief content officer, asks him about misperceptions, split-second judgments, intuition, and doing the work to understand how someone feels. Gladwell shares some creative solutions that would restructure the way we live, think, work, and relate to one another. And he replaces complacency with compassion and curiosity.(For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I want to be frightened and afraid I’m not going to be able to do it,” says actor Sarah Paulson about what draws her to play a particular character. Paulson, who stars as Xandra in The Goldfinch (out now), met Elise Loehnen to talk about the trajectory of her career, life, and love. They talk about the times Paulson felt she was “at the mercy of other people’s opinions,” the years when she felt like she was never going to have an opportunity, and why her whole life changed when a play in New York City fell through. They talk about Paulson’s great manifestation (and how she didn’t realize she was manifesting). They talk about how hard it is to know yourself, what happens when you’re with people who demand authenticity, and what it’s been like for Paulson to capture the public imagination in her relationship with the equally incredible Holland Taylor. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Why should you believe that just because you have an opinion that that's the right opinion?” asks Ray Dalio, founder of prestigious investment management firm Bridgewater Associates and author of Principles. GP and Dalio talk about how they hear and hold criticism, how to have tough conversations, and how we can engage in thoughtful disagreement. They explore the rare culture Dalio created at Bridgewater—one of radical transparency, where people are both encouraged and required to speak straight, and where decision-making processes are recorded so that everyone has full visibility into the choice made. And they push us into curiosity. “If you love knowing and you’re attached to knowing, it’ll stand in the way of your learning,” says Dalio. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub and check out Dalio’s app, Principles In Action).
“I have not been able to find a single piece of research that tells me that anything bad happens when women have more money,” says Sallie Krawcheck, CEO and cofounder of Ellevest. Krawcheck joins chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about why women make reallygood investors and how money can mean freedom. She talks about how she became the most powerful woman on Wall Street (“in the day,” Krawcheck insists). She shares what she’s learned about the ways men and women look at money and why women are taught to feel so much shame and guilt around it. And she teaches us what to do with money and how to start investing with whatever we have. Bonus: Krawcheck is giving all interested listeners $50 to start investing at Ellevest.com/goop or on the app with gift code goop. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Brian MacKenzie doesn’t like when people tell him to “just breathe” either. So even though he’s the founder of a (great, practical, helpful) breathing app (State), you won’t hear those words coming out of his mouth. MacKenzie, the founder of Power Speed Endurance and a performance junkie, joins chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about tools for dealing with stress and anxiety. He explains the difference between sympathetic and parasympathetic personalities and how we can use this knowledge to plan our day in a way that avoids burnout. He explains why we don’t make good decisions when we’re stressed out (we default to habitual responses). He convinces us of the power of breath, tells us the times and places where mouth breathing is okay, and challenges us to get through a workout with our mouths shut. Learning to control our breath, MacKenzie says, helps us run our nervous system—rather than letting it run us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Ninety-nine percent of the time when we use the word ‘can’t,’ it’s really a euphemism for ‘won’t,’” says entrepreneur Marie Forleo, the author of Everything Is Figureoutable. Forleo’s specialty is bridging the gap between thinking about doing something and doing it. She believes that clarity comes from engagement, not thought. And that fear is directive, and that most of the time, it’s “trying to nudge us to a project or a possibility or a growth edge where there’s magic.” She shares her tools for following fear and for pushing beyond the mental blocks that keep us from tackling our goals. She acknowledges how scary it can be to admit what we dream of doing—and how difficult it can be even to decipher what we want. She encourages us to imagine the worst-case scenario first and figure out how to work our way back from it. And then: Imagine the very-best-case scenario. And take a step, even a small step, toward it. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Peggy Orenstein, bestselling author of Girls and Sex, explores the gaps and nuances of intimacy. Today, she talks to Elise about how girls and women are taught that being sexy is important, but being “sexual” is reserved for men. They talk about why women are groomed to think about the potential dangers and harms of sex first—and why we often never learn to prioritize joy (or orgasm). Orenstein’s research involves a lot of fieldwork—she visits fraternities the morning after a party to find out why texting a sexual partner the next day can be so fraught. She helps us reframe the way we think about sex and pleasure. She helps us take back control of our own sexual experience. And she guides us as we try to help our children and the generations behind us to grow into their own fulfilling intimate lives. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
This is a handbook for people of all political leanings and persuasions—and for people who aren’t political at all but want to meaningfully engage with an issue. Shannon Watts—author of Fight Like a Mother, founder of Moms Demand Action, mother of five, and self-described type A personality—never thought she’d find herself leading a movement. But she stepped to the front of one, and her life (and our world) has never been the same since. Moms Demand Action is one of the largest grassroots movements in the country, focused on protecting people from gun violence. You’ll be surprised by what Watts has learned about gun sense, buoyed by the victories she’s already had, and convinced by her conviction that there’s a better ending coming. And whatever issue matters to you, you’ll want her road map for getting involved, in small ways or big, to guide you through the practical and the emotional. (And if you want to get involved with Moms Demand Action, text “READY” to 644-33. For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Although Michelle Pfeiffer and GP do talk about acting and costars, they also talk about who they are off-screen. They talk about why they both decided to get married a second time and what they’ve learned from committing to intimacy. And of course, they talk about how Pfeiffer got into nontoxic beauty, how she wound up on the board of the Environmental Working Group, and her innovative, incredibly cool line of clean perfumes, Henry Rose. After GP sampled each one, we knew we needed to get our hands on these fragrances, so we stocked every Henry Rose scent in the goop shop. Happy listening, shopping, and spritzing.
All parents need to know one thing, says Esther Wojcicki: “There is no perfect parenting.” Wojcicki is the author of How to Raise Successful People, a legendary journalism teacher, and founder of the renowned Media Arts programs at Palo Alto High School. She’s also the mother of three famously successful women. And today, she’s sharing her formula for raising, mentoring, and developing people to reach their highest potential. It starts with her acronym TRICK: trust, respect, independence, collaboration, and kindness. If you’re a parent, it involves giving yourself a break and finding ways to empower your children to be independent thinkers. And for many more of us (parents or not), it means rethinking our assumptions of what it takes to be happy, to be impactful, to be successful in the world. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We get into fear, and then we assume what we’re feeling is ours,” says Dana Childs, an intuitive and energy healer. Childs believes that a big part of the anxiety, fear, or even pain we feel—does not always belong to us. And that we have a tendency to take on the feelings (both emotional and physical) of others. She helps us to identify what’s “ours.” And to ask for permission to be free of what’s not. She show us how she uses her intuition to guide her and others (couples included). Explains the difference between the spirit and the soul. And how we can use both to learn and grow. She reminds us that we’re self-healing; and suggests that life is about peeling back the layers to reveal that already healed self within. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Jasmine Hemsley, the author of East by West, was in university when she realized the food she was eating (mainly cheese toasties, morning, noon, and night) was not serving her. Over time, she adapted Ayurvedic principles that changed her life. “Ayurveda is a philosophy that understands nature and helps you understand that you are nature,” says Hemsley. She joins Elise Loehnen to talk about the three doshas and what they mean for our “digestive fire,” what and how we eat, and how we think about optimizing our health. And if you’re eating fish and chips at the airport: “Enjoy every mouthful, eat it slowly, chew it well—and be very grateful that you’ve got some food.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
BJ Miller, MD, is the kind of person who can make you feel good about death—and, in turn, life. He’s also the kind of person who can coauthor a book called A Beginner’s Guide to the End that makes you smile. Today, Elise Loehnen talks to Miller, a palliative-care and hospice physician, about some of her favorite topics to discuss: How do we plan for the one inevitability in life? How do we help our loved ones find comfort and beauty at the end of their lives? How do we make room for grief? How do we make meaning of it all? And how do we feel the wonder, the joy, along the way? “The kindest service a person can do the world,” Miller says, “is to find happiness.” He helps point us in that direction. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We’re just not taught these days to feel our feelings,” says psychiatrist Ellen Vora, MD. In her New York City practice, Vora takes a holistic, functional-medicine approach to mental health. She sees symptoms—anxiety and depression, hormone and gut issues—as “our really beautiful, brilliant body’s way of communicating to us.” And to communicate back, Vora focuses on food, sleep, stress, and other lifestyle changes. She meets patients where they are; she works with people who are on antidepressants and who are tapering off of SSRIs. Her most important work is not fixing a problem but helping us to hold space for the full human experience (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
People are disengaged at work across the board, says Laura Morgan Roberts, PhD, an organizational psychologist who teaches executive and leadership programs at places like Harvard Business School and Georgetown McDonough. Some people are so actively disengaged, says Roberts, that employers would be better off paying them to stay home. But Roberts is here to show us how to find joy in our careers and how to help others do the same. She tells us what companies and leaders are doing wrong, ways we can do better, and why she believes in a framework she calls radical affirmation. Our individual, diverse strengths can absolutely complement one another and align with the collective goal of our organizations, says Roberts. And we can “feed our soul” while adding value to the bigger picture. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We are either living in a suffering state, or we are living in a beautiful state,” says philosopher Preethaji. “There is no third state.” Which state are you nurturing? asks Preethaji, who is a coauthor (with her husband, Krishnaji) of a new book called The Four Sacred Secrets. Are you fueling the suffering state (stress, worry, fear), or are you cultivating a beautiful state (joy, love, understanding)? Today, Preethaji shows us how to get to that beautiful state. And how to connect to ourselves and expand our consciousness along the way. (Don’t miss her short guided meditation at the very end.) (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We don’t actually detect things in the world,” says neuroscientist and psychologist Lisa Barrett. “We infer what we expect to see.” Barrett is the author of How Emotions are Made, a book that overturns a lot of what we thought we knew about the mind and brain. For one, we aren’t as good at reading other people as we think, says Barrett. Emotions don’t live in distinct parts of the brain. They aren’t universally expressed. When it comes to expressing emotion, Barrett says, variability is the norm. She shows us how we construct emotion in the moment and how we make sense of our body’s sensations. And: She teaches us how to master a significant system of regulation that she calls “the body budget.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Michael Gervais, a high-performance psychologist and the host of the podcast Finding Mastery, always loved sports. But he says he struggled “above the neck.” His own mental blocks got in the way when it came time to compete. Gervais got curious about this: How do we perform at our highest potential? He did a lot of research, and he decided that competition was great but that it goes wrong when we’re trying to compete to be better than other people. Today, he helps people become the best versions of themselves (whether they’re a pro athlete or not). He teaches people how to “train our craft, body, and mind.” And to live in the present moment, where he says all our potential lies. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“To me, justice is when everybody has a fighting chance to have a fighting chance,” says Lindsay Toczylowski, cofounder and immigration attorney at Immigrant Defenders Law Center—and easily one of the most inspirational people we’ve ever met. Toczylowski represents the most marginalized children, mothers, and fathers who are being traumatized in the family separation crisis. She does it with grace. She reminds us of the humanity in this world, that we don’t need to look away, that there is something we can all do to help—and she moves us to change. After you hear her, you’ll want to learn about, donate to, or otherwise support an organization she mentions (in addition to her own): Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Al Otro Lado, Immigrant Families Together California, Border Angels, This Is About Humanity, ACLU. (And, be sure you’re registered to vote in the next election.)
When it comes to beauty, there are 70 billion questions. On goop’s newest podcast, editors Jean Godfrey-June and Megan O’Neill are going to answer as many of them as they can. They’ll have help from top makeup artists, dermatologists, clean beauty founders, researchers, plastic surgeons, hairstylists, and of course their boss, Gwyneth Paltrow.
Gastroenterologist Robynne Chutkan (author of The Microbiome Solution)and endocrinologist Eva Cwynar (author of The Fatigue Solution) joined Elise Loehnen on stage at In goop Health Los Angeles. They had a dynamic conversation about hormones and gut health and the symptoms Chutkan and Cwynar see again and again: constant bloating, brain fog, anxiety, weight gain. These are not normal symptoms we should just have to deal with, they say. Instead, Chutkan and Cwynar are opening up their toolboxes—and also showing us how to become our own medical detectives. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
GP got a little starstruck when she first met Krista Tippett, creator of the On Being Project and host of the On Being podcast and radio show. But then she got into it: They talked about why we tend to let ourselves do only the things we think we’re good at and what happens when we let this restriction go. They talked about the different forms of love, realizing that there are many ways to not be alone, and how our sexuality changes as we get older—which doesn’t mean we stop being sexual. And, they asked, what does it mean to be a modern spiritual person? What are we here to learn? (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
We’re all addicts, according to Judson Brewer, author of The Craving Mind, director of research and innovation at the Mindfulness Center, and associate professor of psychiatry at the School of Medicine at Brown University. Consider our everyday habits—scrolling through Instagram, stress-eating, sugar, more sugar. Our habits, Brewer says, run our lives. And we get fooled into thinking we need just a little more willpower to make a change, quit smoking, drop an addiction. But willpower is finite and often not enough. Which is why Brewer is using research-based mindfulness techniques to help people understand and overcome their cravings. Part of this work is learning to bring curiosity to the roots of your cravings—and compassion to yourself. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
For three decades, Rick Doblin, PhD, has been working in human connection. Doblin is the founder and executive director of the legendary Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). And he’s known for pushing forward critical research to explore the therapeutic potential of psychedelic experiences. But that’s only a piece of it. In this conversation with Elise, Doblin shares his profound perspective on our potential to heal ourselves and on the different pathways that we can open up to process traumas and wrongs done to us—and by us. He explains the significance of changing our relationship to our memories, getting in touch with our unconscious, and learning to forgive ourselves when it’s hardest. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
For Three Women, her first (highly anticipated) book, journalist Lisa Taddeo immersed herself in the lives of three American women, in different parts of the country, for the better part of ten years. The result is an absorbing true story about sex and desire, trauma and longing, power and vulnerability, and the invisible forces that shape our sexuality. In this conversation with Elise from In goop Health Los Angeles, Taddeo takes us behind her extraordinary reporting. But we fell for Taddeo because of what’s ordinary about Three Women, because we saw ourselves in these women, and because we were reminded that of course we’re all normal. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
Uma Naidoo is a Harvard-trained psychiatrist and professional chef. And she’s married the two: Naidoo practices nutritional and integrative psychiatry at Massachusetts General Hospital and in her private practice. In other words, she’s curious about which foods impact our mood and how. Today, Elise asks her about the ingredients that can trigger anxiety and panic and how we can better steer clear of them. They talk about the foods that can support our mental health. How we can make (or keep) cooking, eating, and gathering around the kitchen table fun. And how we can help our children develop their own healthy relationship to food. Naidoo’s most important takeaway might be this: Start small. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
Psychiatrist Steven Levine was drawn into his profession because he loves the human story. But as a doctor, he found himself dissatisfied with the options being offered to patients struggling with depression and other forms of mental dis-ease. “People aren’t just a big bag of chemicals,” he says. And there could not be a successful one-size-fits-all approach. He spent a long time looking for innovative treatments for his patients. And he found something unlikely: a drug—ketamine—that’s historically been used as an anesthetic and that seemed to have antidepressant effects. Levine, who now runs clinics (called Actify) that offer ketamine infusions (and other support), is quick to point out that ketamine is not a cure. But for a growing number of people it could be a tool that allows them to break through what has previously felt like impenetrable darkness. Beyond ketamine, Levine believes we are on the cusp of more major frontiers that will change the way we think of and address depression. His work and perspective carry much-deserved hope for us all. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
Across the board, people tend to be terrible at answering the question “What do I want to do with my life?” Dave Evans, a coauthor of Designing Your Life, is one of the two masterminds behind the popular Stanford program that teaches students how to figure this out. With Bill Burnett, he’s created a playbook that anyone can follow to design a life that’s meaningful to them. Evans reminds us that there isn’t one best version of our life—there are a lot of good versions. He shows us how to prototype and pick from these different realities, and he convinces us not to bother with predictions. He tells us why the current career model is broken, why we sometimes get stuck in jobs we don’t like, and how we can more effectively navigate the hiring process. Get curious, talk to people, try stuff, tell your story, Evans says. And whatever you do: Start where you are. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
An award-winning writer and activist for LGBTQ rights, mental health, and the arts, Andrew Solomon is adept at reframing misconceptions about what it means to be human. In this moving conversation, Solomon and goop chief content officer Elise Loehnen talk about why we crave exceptionalism and cling to sameness. Why we confuse the average with the ideal. Why we waste time hiding our shortcomings and strengthening our strengths. Why we’re threatened by difference. Why we misunderstand the experience of having a disability or being a prodigy. They talk about the difference between love and acceptance, expanding the definition of family,and the ways our lives can be enriched by the diversity of the world. And how we can encourage ourselves and our children to use the challenges we’re faced with to live a remarkable life. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
Have you ever wondered what a psychotherapist would think about you? Or what goes on in your therapist’s life outside of office hours? Lori Gottlieb, the author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, is demystifying what she calls the rich human experience between therapist and patient—and she’s seen it from both ends of the couch. In this honest chat, Gottlieb talks with goop’s chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, about the difference between pain and suffering, why we sometimes muck around in our hurt feelings, how to move forward—and the best thing to do when a friend has stalled. Gottlieb’s toolbox isn’t typical: She believes that we should use envy to help us define and go after what we want. And above all, that we should feel our feelings. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
According to Lacy Phillips, a manifestation advisor—she’ll explain what that means—manifesting isn’t about positivity. And you don’t get what you want by visualizing until you’re blue in the face. Your ability to manifest—love, money, career—comes from your self-worth, says Phillips. And to align with what you desire, she believes you need to mine and curate your subconscious. Repair old wounds and patterns. Find the “expanders” who can help you along the way. Phillips thinks of manifestation as a trust muscle—and now you can strengthen yours. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Why are we coming together, what do we care about, and how do we focus the light on that?” Priya Parker, author of The Art of Gathering, asks this before dinner parties, school conferences, office meetings, and weddings. Her day job is working with groups on conflict resolution, but she’s become known for her insight into designing gatherings of all kinds that create meaning, trust, and emotional bonds between people. Being a good host does not mean fancy invitations, the right flatware, or a gift bag. And forget about trying to be a “chill host.” The key to any gathering, Parker says, is building in opportunities for connection. And if we can shift from gatherings focused on things to gatherings focused on people, Parker believes we can transform the way we relate to one another on a much larger scale. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
“We are light beings,” says chiropractor John Amaral. To which body-alignment specialist Lauren Roxburgh adds, “And that light gets compressed when we are stuck.” These two incredibly intuitive and talented healers came together at In goop Health Los Angeles to chat with Elise about: how energy moves through the body, where and why it gets blocked, and how we can release stored stress, pain, and trauma. In the process, Roxburgh explains why the fascia and pelvic floor matter (read her new book, The Power Source,for more). And Amaral outlines the simple (really) ways that we can reconnect to our bodies and feel most alive. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
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There’s a lot we misunderstand about empathy, says Jamil Zaki, a professor of psychology at Stanford University and the author of The War for Kindness. Which is good.In this episode, he’s talking with Elise about empathetic distress—why empathy doesn’t always mean taking on the pain or struggle of someone else, and why being empathic can be a joyous experience. He explains what keeps us from this kind of empathy and connection: often shame. And he teaches us about finding a language for our feelings: “The people who can name their emotions are also most effective at working with them.” His take-home point? Empathy isn’t something we are born with; it’s something we build. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Elizabeth Gilbert—beloved author of City of Girls; Eat, Pray, Love;and Big Magic—opened up In goop Health Los Angeles with GP. We cried. We laughed. They talked about creativity, spirituality, grief, and mothering. “I think of creativity as a relationship—not between self and self but between self and mystery,” says Gilbert. For Gilbert, the simplest way for us to connect with a force greater than ourselves is through creativity with a little c. (To be clear: This does not mean you need to be a writer or a self-described creative. There are a lot of ways to create in the world, which they get into.) Gilbert said one profound thing after another, but her perspective on the relationship between creativity and grief will stick with us forever. Creativity, Gilbert teaches, can get us through some hard moments. It can be a path to learning how to love, care, and mother ourselves. And it can help us find those strange jewels that the universe has buried within us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
What drives people to change, to heal, to reinvent themselves? On goopfellas, two friends who have become familiar with unlikely personal transformations have raw conversations with people who have experienced profound shifts in perspective and well-being. Together, functional medicine practitioner Will Cole, DC, and chef Seamus Mullen get at the catalysts that bring people out of their dark night and into their purpose. Each of their goopfellas guests- from athletes to actors to authors- is different. But you'll likely see pieces of yourself in all their conversations, reflected in every one of their challenges. New episodes every Wednesday. Subscribe now and never miss an episode.
“What you appreciate, appreciates,” says Lynne Twist, global activist and author of The Soul of Money. What she means: When we let go of what we don’t really need, we find the freedom to turn our attention toward what we already have. Twist joined our chief content officer Elise Loehnen at our last In goop Health in Los Angeles for a conversation about our money culture—how it was created, why we buy into, the ways its failing to serve us, and how we can change it. Most of us, Twist finds, regardless of how much wealth we’ve amassed, have a strained relationship with money—which, often isn’t really about money. She tells us about the three toxic myths of scarcity and redefines our sense of prosperity and abundance. Having “enough” is not an amount, Twist says, but a state of being. She’s helping us all get there. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
GP walked into one of Eddie Stern’s Ashtanga yoga classes in the village twenty years ago, and he changed her life forever. Since then, they’ve become good friends (Stern officiated GP’s wedding last year). In this intimate chat, they talk about those early days—when yoga was weird, when celebrities were sweating it out together at his school, when the consciousness in the culture shifted. They talk about Stern’s brilliant new book, One Simple Thing; the science behind yoga and breath; how emotions express themselves through the body; freeing ourselves (from ourselves); and building in a pause when we’re prone to freak out. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub and The Breathing App.)
“I was done with being a sick person,” says Seamus Mullen, award-winning New York City chef, cookbook author, avid cyclist—and cohost of our newest podcast, goopfellas. For several years, Mullen was in chronic pain. He was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, the medicine he relied on to suppress his symptoms often made him sick, and he became dependent on opioids. He was, he’ll tell you, chronically angry. After nearly dying in the hospital, Mullen realized he’d been given another chance. With that chance, he decided he needed to change his mind, stop seeing himself as a victim, and find a way to take whatever autonomy possible over his health. He found a functional medicine doctor (Frank Lipman) who became the quarterback in his healing process and bit by bit, Mullen reversed his illness. Today, he’s talking with his friend and our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, about his extraordinary comeback story—which he would say isn’t really remarkable at all. “My journey is the same journey as millions of other people have been on—and can be on.” (For more, see The goop Podcast and goopfellas hubs.)
“Before I can change your mind, I need to understand where your mind is,” says pro negotiator Daniel Shapiro. The founder and director of the Harvard International Negotiation Program, Shapiro has advised all sorts of people and organizations through conflict: families, CEOS, heads of state, Fortune 500 companies. He’s found that every conflict has a few things in common: Two sides typically get into conflict when they don’t feel appreciated by the other. And the way out of conflict is a dance that moves you toward a deeper understanding of the other side, which, Shapiro explains, “can really unlock emotional deadbolts in a relationship.” In this episode, Shapiro takes our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, through one of her own wife-husband conflicts. They talk about accommodators versus confronters, what healthy confrontation looks like, how to deal (or not) with someone who is completely mired in conflict, how to set boundaries, and why the trivial is not trivial. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“The way people think will affect their health in a big way,” says Apostolos Lekkos, DO. As a physician, Lekkos splits his time between emergency medicine and a private practice in Santa Monica, California, where his patients think of him as a secret weapon (sorry for sharing!). Western medicine really works in the emergency room, Lekkos says. But when it comes to preventive care, chronic conditions, and optimizing health, he believes the system is broken. In this chat with Elise Loehnen (a patient and friend), Lekkos breaks down his functional approach to well-being. They talk about genetic testing and regulating genes that influence cholesterol, mood, and disease. They talk about nutrition testing and supplements. They talk about leaky gut, autoimmunity, what to eat—and how to take power over your own health wherever you are on the spectrum. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Two decades ago, GP read Anatomy of the Spirit for the first time. It’s a book she’s returned to again and again over the years. And now she’s met its incredibly wise author: Caroline Myss joined GP on stage at In goop Health for a conversation on the mind-body-spirit connection. There, GP asked Myss about being a medical intuitive (Myss says we’re all born medically intuitive), the difference between intuition and hypochondria, how the chakras correspond to health and dis-ease, and how we can speak the truth—to ourselves. When we don’t, Myss says, we end up creating false narratives: “Then you’re going to live a lie. It takes a lot of effort to live a lie.” And at the very end of their chat: Myss tells GP the one thing that she believes is the most powerful tool we have for healing. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Part of the reason why humans suffer is that we don’t honor the expression of these so-called weak emotions—meaning sadness, fear, and shame,” says psychiatrist Will Siu. In this moving conversation with new friend and goop chief content officer Elise Loehnen, Siu takes us through his experiences with loneliness and depression—both personally and as a clinician. Siu is educated by way of UC Irvine, UCLA medical school, the NIH, Harvard, and Massachusetts General Hospital and McLean Hospital. In other words: He’s a person that society deemed successful—and yet as he vulnerably explains, he still struggled. Today, Siu shares paths toward healing and connection, including what he’s learned from psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy, or as he puts it, psychedelic-assisted humanity. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Kim John Payne’s work focuses on the feeling of overwhelm that a lot of us walk around with today. As an educator, school consultant, and family counselor, Payne helps people simplify their lives (which he writes about in Simplicity Parenting: Using the Extraordinary Power of Less to Raise Calmer, Happier, and More Secure Kids). People often misunderstand what it means to have a balanced life, says Payne. They’ll tell him that they’d like more time to be creative and to connect with others, and that they’d love to stop overscheduling their kids—but that’s not the world we live in and thus it’s unrealistic and unproductive. In Payne’s mind, this is a major misjudgment. We prepare our kids and ourselves for a world that is far more structured than it is today and than it will be tomorrow. In this chat, Payne makes a case against child-centered homes and shows us how to create the value-centered homes that he believes could change the culture for all of us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We've turned ourselves just into these consumers,” says David de Rothschild. “We've lost sight of the fact that we're citizens.” De Rothschild, who calls himself an “optimistic pessimist” is a world adventurer and environmental activist. He once set sail across the Pacific, from San Francisco to Sydney, riding on a 60-foot catamaran built from thousands of reclaimed plastic bottles. You might think he’d tell us to give up all our material desires and wants—but he has them, too. And his most profound advice starts here: Be willing to unlearn, to move from fear to curiosity, to remember the magic of nature. It’s possible, he believes, to engineer ourselves out of our mess, to reimagine profit, to reframe companies as communities, and to reclaim our role as citizens of the world. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
P brought a couple friends—Demi Moore and Arianna Huffington—together for a chat at In goop Health in New York City. They talked a little bit about wellness routines and parenting advice. And a lot about how they’ve defined and redefined success throughout their lives and careers, which has sometimes required them to ditch society’s measuring stick. “I'm now convinced that failure is such an incredible way to build our resilience and to build our own inner strength,” said Huffington. “We won't be the same people without the failures along the way.” For Moore, the most important thing she thinks she’ll ever do in her life is the inner work. What does that look like? All three women weigh in. (See The goop Podcast hub for more.)
“I was craving the straight and narrow path that I had arbitrarily created for myself without really any experience to base it upon,” Valerie Jarrett says. “It’s just what I thought should make me happy.” And then Jarrett hit a wall. In this intimate chat with our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, Jarrett shares the path she took from a law firm in Chicago to become Barack Obama’s senior advisor in the White House and family confidante. She talks about being a single mom and how she learned to admit when life was hard, ask for help, and stop trying to be so perfect. Her stories show a different, more adventurous, and hopeful way to build a life of purpose—however you define purpose in your own life. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub and Jarrett’s new book, Finding My Voice.)
“Wellness is not a state of mind,” Emily Nagoski says. “It is not coming to a place of loving yourself. Wellness is a state of action. It is the freedom to move through the natural cycles of the stress response.” Nagoski—author of Come As You Are—began her work as a sex educator and went on to earn an MS in counseling and a PhD in health behavior. Her new book, Burnout, explains why women experience burnout differently than men—and how we can all avoid it. This is one of those rare conversations about stress that didn’t make us…stressed. It did make us laugh. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I call shame the twenty-ton shield,” says Brené Brown. “It's a defense mechanism—very classic—that we carry in order to protect ourselves from getting hurt. But what it actually does is protect us from being seen.” Brown is a research professor at the University of Houston, a New York Times–bestselling author (read her latest, Dare to Lead), and the star of a new Netflix special, The Call to Courage. In this chat, she and GP talk about courage, which Brown says is teachable and possible to cultivate only from a place of vulnerability. They talk about being perfectionists: “Where perfectionism is driving, your shame is riding shotgun,” says Brown. And they talk about empathy—as a tool for combating shame internally and for stepping beyond yourself to connect with and lead others. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Laura Day and Laura Lynne Jackson are renowned psychic mediums and friends. They both joined our chief content officer Elise Loehnen (another friend) at our last In goop Health summit. “Everybody thinks they need to come to someone like me or Laura to get their information,” said Jackson. “And the truth is you don't.” Day and Jackson work differently, but this is where they agree: Everybody has intuitive abilities, which routinely get dismissed. In this chat, they explain how to notice, listen to, test, and document your intuition so that you can use it as a tool to help you with your relationships, career, and daily routine. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
The spiritual legend best known as Swamiji went to New Jersey—and so did our chief content officer Elise Loehnen. Swamiji created and runs the Vedanta Institute in Mumbai. Vedanta is the study of Vedic tests and translates to “the end of knowledge.” At the institute, and now throughout the world, his scholars explore why so many of us are so unhappy. In the world of Vedanta, they believe that there is a distinction between the mind and the intellect—and that the intellect should not be confused with intelligence. Because we do not exercise our intellects to control our minds, we are run by our likes and dislikes. We are controlled by our attachments and our emotions, the theory goes. How do we break free? Swamiji tells Elise—after taking her to the mat a couple of times. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“To be a helpable person seems counterintuitive,” says Bonnie St. John. “I’m the one-legged black woman. You know, I spent my whole life proving that I could do it all myself.” St. John is the first African American to ever win medals in winter Olympic competition, taking home a silver and two bronzes at the 1984 Paralympics. She graduated magna cum laude from Harvard. Earned a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford. Served in the White House as a director of the National Economic Council during the Clinton administration. “I was such a drive-yourself-until-you-drop person,” she says. Until she learned a different paradigm for high performance—one that was sustainable, with recoveries built in along the way. It’s not about pulling the throttle back, says St. John; when you follow her method, you’re able to do more. She calls it micro-resilience: “little hacks that have a big impact.” And in this episode, we get her favorite strategies and tools for changing pessimistic viewpoints, prioritizing, making decisions, working with others, and just getting it done. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub and St. John’s book Micro-Resilience: Minor Shifts for Major Boosts in Focus, Drive, and Energy.)
“We’ve wiped out 40 percent of biology on earth in just fifty years,” says Zach Bush, MD. “And yet that Mother Earth keeps reaching out saying: Are you sure you don't want to keep playing? Because we could have some fun together.” For Bush, the health of our soil microbiome is the single most potent factor determining how healthy—or unhealthy—we are. What makes Bush’s case particularly compelling is the unlikely path he took to realizing it: Bush is a board-certified physician with a background in internal medicine, endocrinology and metabolism, and hospice and palliative care. He thought he’d spend his whole life in academia, until a curveball took him to a nutrition center in rural Virginia. There, everything Bush “knew” about nutrition and the drivers of disease and medicine...broke. Slowly, he began to put together the pieces, which told a new story that felt both surprising and intuitive to him. Today, Bush shares that story, along with the steps we can take to move from chemical farming toward regenerative agriculture, and from a culture of dis-ease toward one of healing.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“You’ve got to meet people where they are,” says Sally Kohn. “But then you don’t have to leave them there.” Kohn, a TV commentator and columnist, appeared on Fox News representing a liberal point of view for many years—that experience alone taught her a lot about listening, bridging, and ultimately persuading. Before that, Kohn worked for more than fifteen years as a community organizer. And today she’s talking to Elise Loehnen about her incredibly helpful, surprisingly funny book The Opposite of Hate: A Field Guide to Repairing Our Humanity. It’s a conversation that taught us about listening to understand—not to argue—and about getting comfortable with discomfort. It also reminded us that we’re all way more similar than we tend to think we are. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
GP hung out at Universal Studios with Oscar-winning actor Lupita Nyong’o as she prepped for the release of her new film Us (written and directed by the talented Jordan Peele). They talked about Nyong’o’s path to the platform she has today: growing up in Mexico and Kenya, her politician-professor father who was in self-exile, Nyong’o’s education (and why getting an Ivy League degree was important to her), landing her role in 12 Years a Slave, the cultural significance of Black Panther. They talked about shame—in the context of women’s sexuality and also the shame of not understanding something. “Ignorance doesn't have to be permanent. It can be momentary,” says Nyong’o. “You have to allow yourself to learn. And it starts with admitting what you don’t know.” Other highlights: the pair’s perspective on how beauty is being redefined in the culture, Nyong’o’s description of the most “dangerous” (in a good way) actor she’s ever worked with, and some critical tips on getting through a scary movie. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Nothing itself is addictive on the one hand,” says Gabor Maté, MD. “And on the other hand, everything could be addictive if there’s an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled.” Maté is known for his unique perspective on addiction, child development and trauma, and how this stress manifests in the body. He has written several books, including In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts, Hold On to Your Kids, and Scattered. In this moving conversation with Elise Loehnen, Maté talks about how early childhood experiences sometimes show up later in life and how we’re all affected by our social, cultural, economic, and relational environments. He also shares from his incredible personal experiences in family and palliative care and ministering to patients in the most drug-addicted district in North America. And he talks about the beauty of medicine—which, he explains, is not about control. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Nobody changes until they change their energy—and when you change your energy, you change your life,” says researcher and author Joe Dispenza, DC. Dispenza’s work explores neuroscience, epigenetics, quantum physics, and consciousness. He’s become known for helping people heal in miraculous ways. (His latest book is called Becoming Supernatural: How Common People Are Doing the Uncommon.) In this episode, he explains what at first appears to be magic, where science and mysticism intersect. It’s possible, Dispenza believes, to change the way you think, the way you act, the way you feel; to change your mind and body. The hardest part: not making the same choices you did the day before, choosing not to live by the emotions that keep you anchored to the past. “People wait their whole lives for something outside of them to change how they feel inside,” Dispenza says. But priming your brain to be a map to a new future—that’s an energetic job in his book. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
GP caught up with Dax Shepard at his studio and they covered a lot of ground: They talked about the roots of shame and fear, the things that they find triggering, and trying to figure out how to be intentional. They talked about what erodes self-esteem, what is erroneous to self-esteem, and what builds it. They swapped stories: relationship challenges, second chances at intimacy, navigating parenthood and fame. And they kept coming back to vulnerability—how to approach it, how to get comfortable with it, and what they’ve learned in the process. (P.S. On this episode, you’ll also hear a bit from Shepard’s right hand, Monica Padman. And as always, you can see more on The goop Podcast hub.)
Boston-based clinical psychologist Ellen Hendriksen has become known for helping people through anxiety, which is something she has struggled with, too. Hendriksen wrote a book about it called How to Be Yourself: Quiet Your Inner Critic and Rise Above Social Anxiety. Our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, asked Hendriksen to share the strategies she’s learned and tested to cope with social anxiety and move from fear and doubt toward authenticity and a genuine comfort with the person you are in the world. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Dads saved the human race,” says Anna Machin, evolutionary anthropologist and author of The Life of Dad. In this conversation with goop CCO Elise Loehnen, Machin calls us to reimagine the role of the modern father, think differently about sex and gender as they relate to parenthood, and explore what it means to be a family, to be social, to form long-lasting relationships. Machin’s research on the anthropological roots of fatherhood and how fathers evolved to be parent figures has an equally extraordinary impact on men, women, and children—and the potential to change what our communities look like well into the future. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I never thought you had to be any one way to be a person and to be kind and to learn,” says Erin Brockovich, who continues to redefine what it means to be an activist. The tough news, Brockovich tells us, is that Superman is not coming to save the environment, to clean up our water, to kick harmful chemicals out of our neighborhoods. But here’s why Brockovich is optimistic: We’ve had the power all along to rescue ourselves. We do not need to wait for oversight that does not exist. We simply have to believe that we can, that we should, that we have every right to speak up and speak out. And then we can start small, we can start local, and we can make the kind of big, life-altering changes that Brockovich has helped inspire all over the world. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I've been kind of a student of family secrets all my life,” writer Dani Shapiro says. All of her novels have centered around family secrets, and her memoirs have explored secrets in her own family history, some of which she didn’t know existed—until she took a DNA test on a whim. When the results came back, Shapiro learned this: Her father, her beloved father whose deep Jewish lineage Shapiro had always identified with, was not her biological father. Did this mean she was not the person she thought she was? Did it change everything? Did it change nothing? What did her parents (who have both passed) know? Following the publication of her new memoir Inheritance, Shapiro talks with our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, about searching for answers, exploring what defines us, and ultimately “being willing to embrace and live with a certain amount of uncertainty—just simply not knowing.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“People get used to sometimes feeling a certain way, and they don't know that they could feel better,” says naturopathic doctor and aesthetician Nigma Talib. “I think when people get the taste of what it’s like to feel optimal, they quite often stick to it.” Working with Talib is fascinating because she can connect how you’re feeling to what’s happening in your gut to the way your skin looks. And then she helps you fix it all. She wrote about this process in a book called Younger Skin Starts in the Gut. And as the title suggests, Talib is also known for her approach to aging gracefully—and not prematurely. "Aging is beautiful," she says. "There's something about having those gorgeous expression lines." (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
GP catches up with her old friend Elena Brower, yoga teacher and coauthor of Better Apart: The Radically Positive Way to Separate. They talk about their own divorces, relationship endings and beginnings, and transformations. Brower doesn’t believe it’s ever too late to “fix it.” She pushes for taking responsibility for your attitude and reality, vigilantly taking care of yourself during and after the separation, having patience for the process, and having a lot of self-forgiveness. And GP explains why she always says intimate relationships are a meditation on everything that’s wrong with us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“For better or worse, I’m the asshole guy,” Robert Sutton once told us. Sutton is a professor at Stanford and the author of The Asshole Survival Guide. Of course, his work encompasses a lot more. Sutton studies organizational change, leadership, innovation, workplace dynamics, friction. Today, we’re talking a lot about assholes though: What makes someone act like one? How can we identify the tendencies in others and ourselves? How do you get rid of assholes in your office and personal life? And when you can’t, what are the best coping strategies for dealing with one? (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Our memory is shit,” says couples therapist and author of We Do Stan Tatkin. “It can’t be relied on, and our perception is like a fun-house mirror…. And so that should give way to more cautiousness, more consideration, and more curiosity than we tend to have, especially in love relationships.” Tatkin’s approach to helping couples develop “secure-functioning relationships” is both realistic and optimistic. His work helps people better understand their partners so that they can become the best possible team together. Tatkin is a proponent of dependency in a relationship—and of not making that a dirty word anymore. His perspective on parenting—and not putting a child at the center of your universe—is also compelling. As for deal breakers in a relationship: Yes, he says, they exist, although sometimes what might appear to be a deal breaker is actually wholly resolvable. And if you’re looking for a relationship, Tatkin says forget thinking about the perfect person, and consider your perfect relationship. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I didn't think that anybody thought or felt or experienced the world the way that I did until I came into recovery,” Bill Clegg tells our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen. Clegg is the author of two harrowing, poignant memoirs: Portrait of an Addict as a Young Man and Ninety Days. (He’s also a novelist—read Did You Ever Have a Family—and one of the most respected literary agents in publishing.) Clegg doesn’t often talk about his experience with addiction and recovery these days, which makes today’s conversation feel all the more intimate. Whether or not you recognize some piece of his story as your own or as belonging to someone you love, it’s a conversation that will stick with you. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“When we promote, if you will, acting compassionately, there’s a subset of people who look at this as a soft science,” says neurosurgeon James Doty, MD. But his research and that of others has demonstrated on a scientific level “that when you practice compassion with intention, it has a profound effect on your mental and physical health and wellness and even your longevity.” Today, Doty shares his unlikely personal story with us; we’ll call it miraculous, but he’s an atheist (who is best friends with the world’s great spiritual leaders). Doty, who had a challenging childhood, learned a few lessons—in a magic shop—at the age of twelve that changed his life forever. One was how to manifest, which set him on a course to becoming a successful neurosurgeon, Stanford professor, and wealthy entrepreneur. But it wasn’t until he went bankrupt and lost it all that he felt like he had gained everything. He wrote a book about it—Into the Magic Shop—and now runs the Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education at Stanford. His work helps us understand the soul of human relationships, their effect on the brain, and the immense power that each of us has to shape how we see the world and how it reacts to us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I think we build up this thesis of who we are, and then it gets shook.” This is how Abbi Jacobson—one of the creators, executive producers, and stars of Broad City—begins to describe the ups and downs of her love life. And the road trip she departed on with a broken heart. It was this adventure that eventually became her poignant collection of personal essays, I Might Regret This. And it was on a different cross-country trek that she caught up with our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, to talk about humor, aura readings, being a workaholic, how it’s hard to ask for help, and why we need to know it’s okay to rely on other people. Jacobson made us laugh—a lot. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Alain de Botton talks to Elise Loehnen about the complexities of falling into, and out of, relationship and how we will always be students of love.
Financial expert Farnoosh Torabi knows how to help people get out of debt and in this episode she explores the ways in which we relate to money.
Jessice Helm provides insight into how endocrine-disrupting chemicals affect our health and what we can do about them that isn't all-consuming and overwhelming.
Howard Schultz, the author of the new book From the Ground Up, tells stories about his time as the Starbucks CEO and how it almost slipped away from him early on and about a moment that gave him a sense of spirituality.
Deanna Minich, PhD, highlights why our health should be a joy, not deprivation and how her detox focuses on what we can add back in to really nourish the body, mind and spirit.
Steven Pinker, the experimental psychologist, Harvard psychology professor, and bestselling author of Enlightenment Now explains our tendency to look at the past through rose-colored glasses and view the present world much more pessimistically and why that thinking doesn't reflect reality.
Longevity researcher Valter Longo breaks down the phenomenon of intermittent fasting and shares the forthcoming science that he’s most excited about—the lifestyle interventions that could have massive impacts on how long we live and how healthy we are.
Wim Hof talks to Elise Loehnen about his breathing method and how nearly anyone can apply it to their life, even if they are not running a marathon in a desert.
Learn insider details on how Gwyneth eats and detoxes, plus hear behind-the-scenes details on her new book, The Clean Plate.
Learn why Jeff Hancock suggests trust may be not declining but, perhaps, evolving.
Learn how to unpack your hang-ups around food, let go of shame and deprivation, and feel something much more pleasurable and long-lasting in your body from Geneen Roth.
In today’s conversation, Nicole Daedone tells us why climax is just like sugar or a drop in the ocean and how to get to the real thing we’re looking for.
Srini Pillay helps you understand how to manage risk, harness creativity, and access the unconscious.
Dr. Dominique Reade takes us through her approach, outlines what we can expect from hormonal shifts, and suggests different options for smoothing out the ride.
Psychologist, Alex Belser, talks with Elise Loehnen about the many different ways psychedelics are being used to treat depression, anxiety, addiction.
Ballet star and history-maker Misty Copeland sits down with GP to talk about what it’s like being the first African American woman to ever be promoted to principal dancer at the American Ballet Theatre.
Our first guest in a three-part Tuesday series on mental health is psychiatrist Kelly Brogan, who believes that healing the body can be a path to healing the mind.
Stanford University's Chip Heath has figured out how to create moments that matter and tells why we remember certain things and not others.
Famed Author/Historian Mary Beard explores how women have been silenced throughout history—and why we still are today.
A. J. Jacobs and our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, talk about how gratitude doesn’t have to be cheesy and why it might be the simplest route to happiness.
A medical doctor, a naturopathic doctor, and a registered dietitian give us their best advice on gut health in this special episode from In goop Health Vancouver.
Model-designer-author Ashley Graham dropped by goop HQ to hang with GP.
Gabrielle Reece is a world-class athlete, model, and the New York Times–bestselling author of My Foot Is Too Big for the Glass Slipper. A former professional beach volleyball player, Reece was Nike’s first female spokesperson. She’s known, in part, for her thoughtful perspective on strength, beauty, and redefining our relationship to our body. In this special episode, we’re sharing a conversation with Reece from In goop Health Vancouver. We talked about navigating self-judgment, doing away with comparisons, why perfectly beautiful isn’t the path to happiness, and ways to get stronger with age. For starters, we’ll never look at a scale the same way again. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Tapping Into Your Inner Creative with Amy Whitaker, author of Art Thinking
Today’s bonus episode is a stress-buster that reminds us of the power and freedom that come with surrendering to what’s out of our control.
GP asks pal Julia Roberts all our burning questions: Favorite male costar? Outlook on marriage? Parenting philosophy? The moment that changed everything for her? And more.
DeRay Mckesson—civil rights activist, author of On the Other Side of Freedom, and host of the podcast Pod Save the People—gives us all a reason to feel hopeful.
GP chats with one her best friends, British designer and fashion icon Stella McCartney
Greg McKeown is the New York Times–bestselling author of Essentialism, and he believes that we’ve been sold a bill of goods. The notion that we can (or should) do it all, that we can (or should) have it all, that this is what success is made of—it’s all a great con, says McKeown. But McKeown is not an advocate for saying no. What he does is help people identify the things that really matter to them and figure out how to make the space and time to pursue just those things. Maybe the biggest lesson he’s taught us is this: If you don’t prioritize your life, someone else will. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Dr. Maya Shetreat is a New York City–based neurologist and the author of The Dirt Cure. In her practice, she sees children and adults with chronic health issues, gut imbalances, and autoimmune disorders. She believes that the best approach is one that incorporates the physical, emotional, and spiritual. She is an advocate for reconnecting with the earth, trusting the gut, and exploring the idea that science is really a system and language for explaining magic. Listening to Shetreat will make you want to talk about miracles, mysteries, and the power of acknowledging that we will never know everything. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Chrissy Teigen is one of the funniest people we know, arguably has the best clapbacks of all time, and knows how to cook the kind of meal everyone craves. This week, GP went over to Chrissy’s, and they talked about their shared love of food and how important it is to feel good about what you’re eating, without being too dogmatic about it. They chatted about marriage, and Chrissy told GP what she really loves about being with John Legend (which isn’t what everyone thinks). Of course, they talked through social media and what makes Chrissy who she is online. We felt like (wished) we were there drinking a glass of wine with them. (For more and to get Chrissy’s new cookbook, Cravings, head to The goop Podcast hub.)
On the tenth anniversary of goop—which GP started from her kitchen in London—we’re turning the tables. In this special episode, GP herself is answering the questions, in an honest conversation with her friend and podcast cohost, goop’s chief content officer Elise Loehnen. Looking back, GP talks about mistakes she made in building a company, her inherent fear of intimacy, and how hard conscious uncoupling really is. She talks about getting comfortable with criticism, stepping away from perfectionism, and being curious about the different ways we can optimize our lives. Elise asks GP about getting married, parenthood, and “Faltrow-Martin” house rules. And GP shares her business philosophy, why she created a specific kind of culture at goop, and what it means to return home with a pop-up in Notting Hill. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Bryan Stevenson, the New York Times–bestselling author of Just Mercy, has been called America’s Nelson Mandela by Desmond Tutu and Nicholas Kristof. As a civil rights lawyer, he’s liberated more than 100 people from death row, proving their innocence in the process. And as the founder of the Equal Justice Initiative, he recently opened the Legacy Museum and the National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Montgomery, Alabama, which commemorate lynching, slavery, terrorism against African Americans, Jim Crow, and mass incarceration in this country. They are stunning tributes that compel us to never repeat the worst of our past. Because of our history, Stevenson argues that no one in this country is really free, but he paints a path to a more just society in which we can all confront and overcome racial inequality. It’s a future that Stevenson feels really hopeful about, but not one that will materialize unless we act now.
Literary agent Jennifer Rudolph Walsh runs the New York office of the mega entertainment and media company WME. And as its worldwide head of literary, lectures, and conference divisions, Walsh has a client list that reads like a who’s who of thought leadership: Oprah, Brené Brown, Alice Munro, etc. We got Walsh to pull back the curtain and tell us how she continues to find the next leading thinkers, all while taking no bullshit in an industry previously dominated by men. Through her brainchild, Together Live, a nationwide storytelling event, she reminds us of the power of storytelling to connect us all and the importance of finding voices that are typically underheard and underrepresented. She also explains why being a thought follower is a highly underrated cause. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
In this must-listen—whether or not you have or even want kids—Joe Newman, the author of Raising Lions, explains his simple, systems-based approach to conflict that could have a profound effect on our entire culture. And it starts with so-called problem children. Newman knows them well: He used to be one, a typical ADHD, disobedient type. Today, he’s able to connect with kids no one else seems able to reach, and he teaches his life-changing method to parents, family members, and educators. Newman’s perspective—on why things go off track, why so many of us were misjudged as kids, and why we continue to misunderstand kids today—challenges our preconceived notions of what it means to grow up. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Sex therapist Stephen Snyder, M.D., is interested in the feelings behind sex, the feelings we get in thick of it, and the ones that sometimes keep us from connection and intimacy. Snyder is an associate clinical professor of psychiatry at the Icahn School of Medicine and has been in private practice in Manhattan for two decades. He’s come to believe that passion is inherently selfish, that sex should make you feel a little dumb, and that everyone thinks everyone else is having more (and better) sex than they are. Above all, he reminds us that we’re normal. For more, go to goop.com/thepodcast.
Will Cole, IFMCP, DC, takes an unorthodox approach to medicine, working closely with patients around the world and their primary care physicians or teams of specialists. As a functional medicine practitioner, Dr. Cole looks to optimize lab work beyond the range conventionally deemed “normal,” in large part to keep people off of an autoimmune spectrum he sees again and again. Cole’s approach to health is individual, but he explains why he’s a big fan of intermittent fasting, and why—good news—you can drink coffee during it. He also shares his food philosophy and the Ketotarian diet he created: a mashup of the best of the plant-based and ketogenic worlds. For more, go to goop.com/thepodcast.
Peter Crone refers to himself as a “mind architect”: He helps people understand how their own perceptions, self-limiting beliefs, and words have shaped their reality—and he points out how to break free. As one friend of goop explained, a session with Crone is like being gently held while he simultaneously punches you in the gut. It is not always easy, but it is certainly cathartic. (For more, head to goop.com/thepodcast.)
Dr. Josh Axe is a functional medicine practitioner who draws heavily from Ayurveda and Traditional Chinese medicine. He talks to us about making health changes more accessible to men, specifically, as well as the herbs, spices, and essential oils that he thinks we should all be leaning on. He also tackles common health concerns, like Hashimoto's, and breaks down why he thinks a ketogenic cleanse can be so effective for weight loss. His take on protein and the health benefits of collagen might change what you put on your dinner plate, too.
Dr. Lucy Kalanithi brought us to tears in this poignant, moving, and ultimately uplifting conversation about love, grief, family, and the ties that bind us long after death. Kalanithi is a clinical assistant professor of medicine at Stanford and a general practitioner interested in end-of-life care. She’s the widow of Dr. Paul Kalanithi, the author of the number one New York Times–bestselling memoir When Breath Becomes Air. Their journey together has changed the way so many of us think about faith, loss, and what it means to really live. (For more, head to goop.com/thepodcast.)
Sarah Jessica Parker came over to GP’s Hamptons home to catch up on everything you’d hope they would: Carrie Bradshaw, motherhood, shoes, why they started businesses, SJP’s book short list, how things have changed (and not changed) for women in Hollywood, and Cynthia Nixon’s campaign for governor of New York. Then there’s the unexpected—like GP’s reality TV show pick and SJP’s insightful take on heartbreak. (If you’re looking for the novel SJP raves about—we’ve got A Place for Us stocked in the goop shop.)
Spiritual legend Marianne Williamson takes us on as only she could in this inspiring wake-up call. Williamson argues for compassionate resistance, real maturity, and a greater understanding of the dichotomy that is built into the DNA of America. Her insight into crisis—and the people she sees us becoming on the other side of it—lights a fire.
Dr. Mark Hyman is a pioneer of a new way of thinking about both health and chronic disease. He’s the director of the Cleveland Clinic for Functional Medicine, the founder of the Ultra Wellness Center, and a New York Times–bestselling author of books like Food: What the Heck Should I Eat? And now he answers that question for us, dispelling a host of dietary misconceptions and controversies. Using science and research, Hyman contextualizes the incredible results his patients have seen after adopting his food-first philosophy—which is poised to change the future of modern medicine.
During this one-on-one chat with GP’s trusted intimacy teacher Michaela Boehm, we learn how to bring the practice of Tantra to life and turn up what Michaela calls “Erotic Friction.” GP and Michaela dispel misconceptions around Tantra and gender, and talk about redefining feminism and polarity in modern relationships. And Michaela offers some unexpected tips and simple, tangible steps that anyone can follow to increase desire in a relationship.
Drop into this conversation between new friends GP and the brilliant Janet Mock—who is currently a writer, producer, and director on the FX show Pose (along with GP’s fiancé Brad Falchuk). GP and Janet talk about what it’s like to be on the frontlines of a shifting culture and the moment that Janet realized she had to stop waiting for her role model and become the person she had been waiting for. They talk about giving up “dream jobs” for new dreams. Janet schools GP—in the best way—on transgender issues that are really all of our issues. And GP asks Janet’s advice for parents whose children are struggling to be seen by society for who they are.
Laura Lynne Jackson is one of the most incredible psychic mediums of our time. She’s also the New York Times-bestselling author of the thoroughly enjoyable, uplifting read The Light Between Us. Today, she shares some of her profound intuitions with us—like why she believes we all have psychic abilities, how we can change the trajectory of grief, where we can find an endless source of love and connection, and what she thinks we’re meant to learn here on earth.
When Dr. Oscar Serrallach first wrote about postnatal depletion on goop, he hit a nerve—particularly with the revelation that some women experience the aftereffects of having a child for several years. In his Australia-based practice, Dr. Serrallach has focused on helping moms new and years out to restore their health and vitality. And in this episode, he’s sharing his simple strategies, nutrition tips, and a hormone primer so that more of us can finally feel like ourselves again. (For more, see Dr. Serrallach’s new book The Postnatal Depletion Cure and visit goop.com/thepodcast.)
Multi-hyphenate Olivia Wilde is a producer, actor, director, and activist, who believes we need to empower more women to tell their stories—and take a closer look at the stories that we’ve all told ourselves. In this episode, she tells us a few of her own that have changed her perspective. She talks about what it was like being raised by two working parents who were both war-time journalists (one is running for office now). And she talks about the process of changing peoples’ minds. She also makes us laugh—a lot.
Psychotherapist Barry Michels—bestselling coauthor of The Tools—doesn’t believe that uncovering the roots of problems sets people free. Instead, he’s designed quick, accessible tools for getting unstuck and moving through fear, which he coaches some of the most prolific, creative, and established people in the world to use. Part of this work is learning how to find the opportunity in a problem, and part is making peace with the aspects of yourself you’ve always put down, repressed, ignored.
A cardiologist by training, Dr. Alejandro Junger is a trailblazer in functional medicine and the founder of the Clean program. He’s also goop’s OG expert M.D. and our constant guide through new paths of healing. One of the most powerful tools he uses to restore health is detoxification. Detox has become a hotly debated topic, but Junger says it’s not a modern concept, nor a fad, nor a method of deprivation. It’s a way, he believes, of removing blocks and filling in gaps so the body can recover its innate ability to heal itself.
Functional medicine doctor Taz Bhatia, M.D., says that stress overload manifests in different ways in her patients. For some, stress contributes to weight gain or weight loss resistance; for others, stress may be a factor in thyroid disorders, anxiety, PCOS, or gut issues. Here’s what Dr. Bhatia does not tell her patients: to slow down, to calm down, to give something up—things she has no interest in being told or doing herself. Instead, she has drawn from conventional medicine, Ayurveda, traditional Chinese medicine, research, and her own health struggles to come up with a toolbox that women can use to optimize their health one simple, concrete step at a time.
In 2008, after falling into a deep coma, academic neurosurgeon Eben Alexander had a near-death experience that defied his understanding of how the brain works. For him, it was proof of heaven, which became the name of his New York Times–bestselling memoir. Since then, he’s been exploring the science of consciousness, connection, and spirituality with Karen Newell, an innovator in sound meditation. Together, they share how they’ve learned to tap into a higher consciousness, the existing evidence of a spiritual universe, and why they think we’re on the verge of the greatest shift in human thought.
When Audrey Gelman opened the women-only co-working and community space the Wing in the fall of 2016, she had no way of knowing that it would quickly become swept up in a larger movement around women’s rights. As the Wing expands around the US and the world, we asked Gelman about navigating this highly charged cultural moment and the push-back that women often get when they go after what they want.
No one emerges from childhood unscathed, says psychiatrist and author of Permission to Parent Robin Berman. Her great talent lies in helping people come to terms with their imperfect past and move beyond any self-limiting beliefs, attachment issues, or disappointments they collected along the way. Whether you had a narcissist for a role model, you didn’t get everything you needed as a kid, or you’ve never been able to forgive your dad’s one mistake, her insight makes it possible to re-parent yourself and finally say goodbye to the baggage that isn’t you.
Sought-after sexuality expert and psychotherapist Esther Perel peels away the layers of desire to reveal some surprising truths about what actually turns women and men on. For one: The secret to female sexuality, Perel says, is how narcissistic it is. She also has some revelatory ideas about why desire dries up in long-term relationships and how to reinvent your intimate life, and she even makes a compelling case for reconsidering the way we think about jealousy as well as infidelity.
In this personal and candid conversation, GP and her mom, Blythe Danner, talk about what it was like living and then acting together, why Blythe was hard on her daughter, and things they would have done—or said—differently. They talk about old boyfriends, Tinder, and vibrators. They talk about the strange thing that happens when you win a major award (an Oscar for GP, a Tony for Blythe) at twenty-six. They talk about co-parenting and forgiveness. They talk about what’s left to accomplish—and the beauty of letting go.
Family therapist and teacher Terry Real has steered many troubled couples away from the brink of divorce, coaching them through struggles with intimacy, honesty, and transparency. In his unconventional approach, he actually gets off the therapist bench and gets involved, lending his own experience to the conversation. He is full of tips for promoting passion in long-term relationships—something he says we aren’t taught how to do.
Dr. Steven Gundry’s career in cardiac surgery took a surprising turn when he met a seemingly hopeless patient who reversed heart damage with food and supplements. Curious, Gundry went on to explore the power of nutrition and search for cures for notoriously difficult-to-treat conditions. He’s become known for cutting lectins (plant proteins) out of his patients’ diets and for his books The Plant Paradox and The Plant Paradox Cookbook. His take on why too many women have been dismissed in the doctor’s office is also compelling. End-of-episode bonus: GP does a round of AMA on being blonde.
Anita Moorjani, the author of Dying to Be Me and What If This Is Heaven?, takes us on a crazy ride through her near-death experience and spontaneous healing from cancer. Apart from that wild story, what’s most striking is how she learned to take autonomy over her health without shouldering self-blame or guilt. For Moorjani, the secret to striking this balance lay not in doing more—but in discovering how to be who she already was. In turn, GP answers a question on her own spirituality.
Adam Grant, Ph.D., a top-rated Wharton professor and the bestselling author of Originals and Give and Take, has become an expert in what makes organizations and people really good at innovating. And it’s not what he expected. Why is criticism central to success? Can you see your blind spots? Does arguing at home foster creativity in kids? How do we create more diverse, inclusive workplaces—where white men step up? After Grant gives us a crash course on evolving office culture, GP answers a question from one of you on something she’d like to change about herself.
There is often a great divide between what motherhood is supposed to be and the way people experience it in actuality. Psychiatrist Catherine Birndorf, M.D., unpacks that disconnect and the entire postpartum spectrum of mood, anxiety, and depression swings and makes the compelling case that we all need to be mothered a bit more. Following a good dose of reparenting love, GP fields an AMA on cleansing and what she eats every day.
Board-certified OB-GYN physician scientist Sara Gottfried, M.D. (educated by way of Harvard Medical School and MIT) debunks myths about out-of-whack hormones, weight loss resistance, the significance of genetics, age, and motherhood—to show how it’s possible to reset your health one small change at a time. After, GP answers her first podcast AMA on her clean lifestyle.
For goop's inaugural podcast, GP spent an afternoon with the incomparable Oprah Winfrey. Their wide-ranging and honest conversation spans everything from Oprah's favorite acting role to her perspective on the MeToo movement and "the culture of enough" to the one life truth she knows for certain.
Gwyneth Paltrow, goop founder and CEO, talks about The goop Podcast, which debuts with a very special guest on Thursday, March 8th.