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    The Good Ship Illustration

    Welcome to The Good Ship Illustration – the podcast for illustrators who are quietly working away in their sketchbooks thinking… “is it just me?”

    …it’s not just you!

    We’re Helen Stephens, Katie Chappell and Tania Willis – three full-time illustrators from three different corners of the industry (and three different age brackets ). We live in the same seaside town in the UK and started having cuppas and chats… and accidentally became illustration agony aunts.

    Now we record those chats for you! We answer your questions about confidence, tricky clients, pricing your work, creative block, picture books, publishing, and everything in between.

    ✨ New episodes every Friday. ✨

    Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and do send us your questions!

    P.s. Fancy some freebies? Head to thegoodshipillustration.com for colour workshops, picture book templates, and other treats.

    Byeeee for now!

     x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    🚢🚢🚢

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    Latest Episodes:
    What publishers reeeeally want to see in your picture book pitch Nov 07, 2025
    Show notes

    First, before we jump into the show notes, here's the link to sign up to the Picture Book Pitching Masterclass we've got happening soon!

    🗓️ When: 17th of November at 1 pm UK time

    💰 Cost: Freeeee

    🚢 RSVP here: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/pbpm

    How do illustrators actually get their picture books published? And what really goes on at Bologna Children’s Book Fair?

    This episode is all about pitching, portfolios, publishers, and… how we each pronounce the word plaster? 😅

    Here’s what we cover:

    • Bologna Book Fair! ✈️
    • How to submit to the Bologna Illustrator Exhibition (deadline alert! They extended it to the 6th November! Sorry, we said the wrong date in this episode, but do let us know if you managed to submit something so we can high-five you.)
    • The Picture Book Pitching Masterclass with Helen and Jane Porter 🎓 https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/pbpm
    • How to pitch your book ideas
    • Overcoming the terror of sharing your work 😬
    • Building resilience to rejection
    • The “myth of being discovered”
    • Our excitin' Bologna Book Fair plans...

    🕑 Timestamps
    00:00 – Bologna excitement (and confusion)
    01:00 – What really happens at the fair
    02:00 – Snail mail sticker packs & upcoming Picture Book Masterclass
    03:00 – Helen’s no-rules pitching philosophy
    06:00 – Regional accent chaos: “masterclass” vs “plaster”
    07:00 – Getting seen by publishers (and why Instagram still matters)
    08:00 – Facing the fear of rejection
    10:00 – Mindset hacks: why what others think is none of your business
    12:00 – Myths about being “discovered”
    13:00 – Good Ship’s Bologna stand & plans for 2026
    15:00 – Why every illustrator should go at least once
    16:00 – Global publishing inspiration 🌍
    17:00 – Dreaming up a “Gone Fishing” Good Ship stall

    Links we mentioned:

    • The Picture Book Course
    • Free Picture Book Pitching Masterclass – 17 November, 1pm UK time
    • Bologna Children’s Book Fair

    Byeeee for now!
    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    Come and say hello!
    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 www.thegoodshipillustration.com
    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙


    'If it looks awful, keep going. It’ll work out' - an interview with illustrator Catherine Rayner Oct 31, 2025
    Show notes

    This week we’re interviewing another creative for the podcast. Hooray!

    Catherine Rayner is an award-winning author and illustrator based in Edinburgh, whose books have sold over two million copies and been translated into 35 languages. She’s written and illustrated 25 picture books and collaborated with legends like Julia Donaldson, Michael Morpurgo, and Michael Bond.

    Winner of the Kate Greenaway Medal (and shortlisted six more times!), Catherine also paints, runs a greetings card and babywear range, and can usually be found in her studio surrounded by ink, animals, and Post-it notes.

    Phew.

    In this chat, Katie asks Catherine about:

    • What an average week in the studio looks like
    • Planning everything using a wall calendar and Post-it notes
    • Working with Julia Donaldson
    • Short deadlines and thriving on a wee bit of panic
    • Being a mum and illustrator at the same time
    • Instagram, rejection, keeping your creative confidence alive
    • A pep talk for newer illustrators

    Rough timestamps for our timestamp fans:
    00:00 – Meet Catherine!
    03:00 – Post-it notes, assistants, and studio life in Edinburgh
    10:00 – Julia Donaldson, ear-cleaning(!?) + friendship
    17:00 – Jason Donovan and creative boldness
    20:00 – 100 rejections, persistence, and finding your people
    23:00 – Instagram tips and why numbers don’t matter
    29:00 – Motherhood, burnout, and how it really gets easier
    36:00 – Catherine’s parting words

    Links mentioned
    Catherine Rayner’s website
    Follow Catherine on Instagram

    Byeeee for now!
    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    Come and say hello!
    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 www.thegoodshipillustration.com
    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙


    'If you keep showing up, you can't NOT get better' - an interview with Sandi Hester Oct 24, 2025
    Show notes

    We've decided to play around a bit and do some INTERVIEWS. Ooooh.

    First up is artist and YouTuber Sandi Hester, who recently moved from the US into a 100-year-old fixer-upper house in the UK.

    Katie (gently) grills Sandi about what it’s been like moving country and keeping her creative practice alive through chaos, health challenges, and renovation dust.

    Sandi shares how painting has become her lifeline, why perfectionism is joy’s worst enemy, and how she’s learned to quiet the “blobbity blob” of negative self-talk that plagues so many creatives.

    Nice.

    💬 In this episode, we talk about:

    • The big move from America to England
    • How painting became Sandi’s release and restful place during years of illness
    • Building the “muscles of creativity” to keep making art no matter what’s going on
    • The “blobbity blob” of self-talk and why you can’t judge your art in the moment
    • Going back to her older, more figurative painting style after moving to the UK
    • Running a YouTube channel as a full-time job and how it replaced the gallery route
    • Why being messy and human built more trust with her audience than a polished version ever could
    • The unseen workload behind one 20-minute YouTube video (and why she can’t start a Patreon!)
    • How perfectionism stops us from creating and why “the best you can do today” is always enough
    • Why creatives should enjoy the journey instead of chasing the destination
    • Learning to separate your self-worth from likes, follows, and algorithm robots 🤖
    • Her advice to artists: stop stressing, stop comparing, and just enjoy the paint sliding across the page

    🕰️ Episode Timestamps

    00:00 – Introducing Sandi Hester and her big move
    02:00 – Creating through renovation chaos and hard seasons
    05:00 – The “blobbity blob” of mental chatter
    07:00 – Letting go of perfection and learning to just play
    09:00 – Returning to figurative painting (and why everyone thinks England “transformed” her work)
    10:00 – Choosing YouTube over galleries and showing real life online
    12:00 – Filming through health struggles and letting people see the messy truth
    15:00 – The hidden full-time workload behind one short video
    17:00 – Lowering the bar so you can actually make things
    19:00 – Teaching thought process over technique
    21:00 – How the YouTube algorithm punishes missed uploads (“Feed the beast!”)
    24:00 – Doing good work without being salesy
    27:00 – Staying the course even when you feel like bubblegum under a chair
    29:00 – Why the journey is the fun part
    33:00 – Re-training your inner critic
    35:00 – Final encouragements and gratitude

    🌈 Links mentioned

    • Bits of an Artist’s Life – Sandi’s YouTube Channel
    • sandihester.com
    • @sandihesterart on Instagram
    • Bits of an Artist’s Life on Substack


    Byeeee for now!
    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania) 🚢🎨

    Come and say hello!
    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 www.thegoodshipillustration.com
    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙


    A Bologna Book Fair special: 6 Good Shippers were finalists in the Illustrators Exhibition! Oct 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Hi there, Helen here.

    This is a special episode of the podcast because we had six of our Good Shippers - that’s people who’ve done our courses - selected as finalists in the Bologna Book Fair Illustrators Exhibition!

    Which is pretty amazing news. It’s really difficult to be a finalist because the competition is so high. Last year there were 4,374 people who entered, and only 324 were selected to be finalists. So for six of them to be Good Shippers is SO exciting.

    Now that the fair’s finished, I thought it would be lovely to catch up with them and hear how it all went. In this episode, you’ll hear from Emma Simpson, Lisa Loffredo, Amber Au, Sam Jones and Kate Leiper.

    A special mention to Charlotte Durrance, who was also a finalist but couldn’t make it to the recording.

    Congratulations to all of you!


    V Rough timestamps in case you like that sort of thing:

    [00:00] Helen introduces the six Good Shippers who made it to Bologna 🎉
    [00:02] Emma Simpson
    [00:11] Lisa Loffredo
    [00:18] Amber Au
    [00:25] Sam Jones
    [00:37] Kate Leiper


    Other links mentioned

    Find Your Creative Voice, Fly Your Freak Flag course

    The Picture Book course

    DPictus Showcase

    Bologna Book Fair Illustrators Exhibition info on how to take part
    – Entries usually open in July and close in November

    Tiffany Leeson
    – Creative Director at Farshore Books

    Ken Max Wilson
    – Writer, illustrator and publisher

    Picture Hooks
    – Helping illustrators access the world of children’s publishing (based in Edinburgh, open to all emerging illustrators)

    🎉 If you’d like to apply for the Bologna Book Fair Illustrators Exhibition, the doors are usually open from July until November.

    Get your work ready and go for it!

    We're cheering you on.

    Taraa!
    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    Come and say hello!
    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 www.thegoodshipillustration.com
    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙


    #WalkToSee is baaack! The hashtag responsible for over 120,000 drawings (join in!) Oct 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Our Helen’s #WalkToSee hashtag on Instagram is baaaack with a new monthly prompt. After seven years of #walktosee there are now over 120,000 drawings on there and counting!

    In this episode, we chat about Helen’s relaunch of #WalkToSee (with new monthly prompts), drawing from life vs. photos, why small sketchbooks are weirdly hard, aaand rediscovering messy materials and carbon paper.

    Special guest: an enormous chunk of charcoal.

    If you'd like a gentle kick up the butt to do some drawing from life, then join in!

    In this episode:

    • The story behind #WalkToSee and why Helen's relaunched it
    • How to join this month’s prompt: #WalkToSeeWeather ☁️🌧️
    • Why drawing from life feels more “alive”
    • Sketching in public = good panic
    • Small sketchbooks or massive sketchbooks... which camp are you in?
    • Materials that make drawing fun again (paint sticks! Sharpies! toilet roll!)
    • The autumn urge to make something just for fun
    • Apple presses, lino cuts, carbon paper and whisky samples

    Timestamps:
    00:00 – Helen on starting #WalkToSee back in 2018
    02:00 – Why hashtags stopped working and how she brought it back
    04:00 – October’s prompt: #WalkToSeeWeather
    06:00 – Drawing tiny and feeling rusty
    08:00 – Sharpies, paint sticks and rediscovering fun materials
    10:00 – Drawing in public (and how to avoid chatty strangers)
    12:00 – The “panic” energy in real-life drawing
    15:00 – Autumn creative urges and sneaky side projects
    17:00 – The joy of carbon paper and slow stationery
    19:00 – Studio updates, new neighbours and collaboration
    20:00 – Katie’s apple obsession 🍎
    21:00 – Tiny whisky bottles

    Links & things mentioned:

    • Join in on Instagram: #WalkToSeeWeather
    • Helen’s Instagram: @helenstephenslion
    • and ours @thegoodshipillustration
    • The Good Ship Illustration: www.thegoodshipillustration.com

    Byeeee for now!
    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania) 🚢

    Come and say hello!
    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 www.thegoodshipillustration.com
    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙


    Remember drawing for...fun? 😅 what is that? Oct 03, 2025
    Show notes

    Deadlines... yeah yeah yeahhh, but what about doing illustration stuff just for YOU!?
    This week we chat about squishing in personal projects when client work always feels much more urgent.

    We are gathering ourselves after a very exciting Illustration Business Club launch.

    Phew! Definitely time for fun non-worky projects around here.

    (Rough) Timestamps if you want to skip to a certain bit

    • 00:00 Question: “How do you make time for personal artwork?”
    • 01:00 Why deadlines are easier than self-led projects
    • 02:00 Fine art drive vs. illustration mindset
    • 03:00 Projects we have managed to finish (and why)
    • 05:00 Creativity that doesn’t look like ‘work’
    • 07:00 You’re probably doing more than you realise
    • 08:00 The power of art clubs + sketching friends
    • 09:00 Big projects that turn into ‘scratch records’
    • 10:00 Permission to make things simple (or stop entirely)
    • 12:00 Sorting hat trick for choosing ideas
    • 14:00 Productivity
    • 16:00 Parking ideas and bullet journaling
    • 18:00 Craft supplies, hoarding, and deferring projects
    • 20:00 New paints, new studios, more art clubs
    • 21:00 Psssst...you’re probably already doing more than you think

    Byeeee for now!
    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)

    Come and say hello!
    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 www.thegoodshipillustration.com
    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙


    "Double your fee without drawing more" say whaaat!? Sep 26, 2025
    Show notes

    First things first, DOORS CLOSE TONIGHT! We start on Monday.

    https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/business

    Be lovely to see you in there.

    Psssst, this is the lowest the price will ever be, and we're not opening the doors again until September 2026.

    🚢🚢🚢

    Right. Podcast shownotes.

    Yes. Where were we?

    Here's a very quick lesson on copyright and licensing before you listen to this episode 🤓

    Copyright = you own the work.
    Licence = permission your client buys to use the work in specific ways (where, how long, which media, exclusive or not).

    Ok, lesson's over. Thanks for coming.

    If you'd like to earn more without drawing more, then keep your copyright, license the usage, and price it properly.

    It's juicy, not boring. We promise!


    Timestamps, if you want to skip ahead to a certain bit

    • 00:00 Why giving away copyright is a no-go
    • 01:00 Licence basics you can actually use
    • 02:30 Picture books: advances, royalties, reversions
    • 04:30 Foreign rights & special sales (how the money flows)
    • 06:30 Trust, statements, and chasing missing royalties
    • 07:30 Licensing agents & exclusivity windows
    • 09:00 Advertising uses: above/below the line (cost jumps)
    • 10:30 Building a simple “menu” clients can pick from
    • 12:00 Case study: the map that earned double via licensing
    • 14:00 Live illustration: online use vs print/murals
    • 16:30 Excluding branding/merch in your standard licence
    • 18:00 Merch options: flat fee vs % royalty
    • 20:00 Originals, ownership, and cautionary tales
    • 22:00 Why this stuff makes your work pay better


    Come and say hello!
    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 www.thegoodshipillustration.com
    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙


    The bit art school forgot to teach you 😅 Sep 19, 2025
    Show notes

    🌎✏️ The Illustrator’s Income Atlas - exciting free workshop announcement!
    🗓️ 24th Sept | ⏰ 1pm UK | 📍 Online
    Let's sit down together and map out your illustration income. You'll leave with a plan (a map, woohooo) you can stick on your wall and use.
    Save your spot and SIGN UP HERE!

    https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/atlas


    Ok, on with the shownotes 🤓


    We’ve taken our Business Course, given it a fresh lick of paint, and made it eeeeven more fun.

    It's now called Illustration Business Club...

    And the doors open tonight! (19th September 2025).

    You don't need your shoulderpads. Just bring yourself and a bit of an open mind to learn how the money-and-business side of illustration works.

    In this episode, we talk a bit about why we’re saying goodbye to the word “course” and what this shiny new Illustration Business Club is gonna look like. You're in for a treat - it’s eeeven better.

    By the way, if you're already in the Business Course, you don't need to do anything. You'll be inside Illustration Business Club automagically.

    Phew!

    • Lifetime access
    • Community perks: private Facebook group + co-working every 2 weeks
    • Nice open chats about pricing, clients, and fees

    It'd be lovely to see you in there!


    Timestamps, for our timestamp fans.

    • 00:00 Big news: the Business Course has changed
    • 01:00 Why “club” feels right (and way more fun)
    • 02:00 All modules unlocked: learn at your pace
    • 03:00 Community: private group + live calls
    • 04:00 What art school didn’t teach you
    • 05:00 Honest conversations about money + fees
    • 06:00 Adding new income streams
    • 07:00 Pricing insights: Katie & Helen’s two perspectives
    • 08:00 Guest interviews + insider knowledge
    • 08:30 Bonus: live Q&A with copyright lawyers
    • 09:00 How to join the Illustration Business Club

    Links mentioned

    • Join the Illustration Business Club HERE
    • Sign up for our free income workshop HERE
    • Come and be our Instagram pals HERE


    Byeeee for now!
    x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)


    Come and say hello!
    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 www.thegoodshipillustration.com
    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙


    Nice illustrator loneliness & working from home Sep 12, 2025
    Show notes

    🌎✏️ The Illustrator’s Income Atlas - exciting free workshop announcement!
    🗓️ 24th Sept | ⏰ 1pm UK | 📍 Online
    Let's sit down together and map out your illustration income. You'll leave with a plan (a map, woohooo) you can stick on your wall and use.
    Save your spot and SIGN UP HERE!

    https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/atlas


    Ok, on with the shownotes 🤓

    Why we secretly love working alone (almost all the time)

    This week we got a good question from an anonymous listener 'how do I deal with loneliness when working from home?'

    Sometimes we love it, sometimes we do not 😅

    In this episode we talk about:

    • Why lots of us illustrators prefer working solo… sometimes
    • Shared studios vs. doors-that-close
    • Headphones, boundaries, and avoiding “being watched” energy
    • Partner-as-studio-mates 👀 Can it work?
    • Using Zoom to humanise client relationships
    • Instagram as a “virtual kitchen”
    • Local micro-communities, Good Ship meet-ups, and regular check-ins
    • Assuming positive intent ❤️

    Rough timestamps, for people who like that sort of thing

    00:00 Anonymous listener Q: “How do I deal with loneliness working from home?”
    01:00 Tania’s Hong Kong years: craving team vibes
    02:30 Partners in the studio: the headphone solution
    04:00 Open-plan offices, self-consciousness, and wiggly energy
    05:30 The magic of a shut-the-door studio
    06:30 Home distractions vs. helpful pottering
    07:30 The dream setup: close to home, small, warm, tree view
    09:00 Commit to the space: move the “big computer”
    10:00 Cloud storage and keeping work in one place
    10:30 Instagram as water cooler… or a brain sponge
    11:30 Real-world chats that top up your social tank
    12:30 Online threads that turn into real communities over time
    13:30 Good Ship meet-ups: sketches groups and weekly Zooms
    15:00 Why creativity needs privacy and no-one-is-watching energy
    16:00 Lonely… but nice lonely (with planned people bits)
    16:30 Zoom with clients to reduce email-anxiety and “they hate it” spirals
    18:00 How to write and receive feedback without spiralling
    19:00 The rule that saves sanity: assume positive intent
    20:00 Quick answers: studios with doors, small communities, kinder stories


    Byeee for now. Let us know if you're coming to the workshop. WE ARE SO EXCITED!! Here's the link again in case you missed it:

    https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/atlas

    Come and say hello!
    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 www.thegoodshipillustration.com
    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙


    Picture Book, Freak Flag, or Business… which one is calling yoooou? Sep 05, 2025
    Show notes

    Which course should I do? 🎨📚

    We get asked this aaall the time: “Do I start with the Picture Book Course, Fly Your Freak Flag, or the Business Course?”

    There is no wrong order.

    Right now the Business Course isn’t open, but…
    ✨ The Illustration Business Club (our shiny new name for it) opens for enrolment on the 19th of September!

    We almost dropped the word “business” because we thought it might put illustrators off. When we asked our students though, the answer was a big NO. That word was exactly what motivated them to jump in and learn the nuts and bolts of building a creative career they love (and get paid for).

    Hooray! 🎉

    In this episode, we chat through how to know which course might be the best place for YOU to start, and how to avoid getting stuck in analysis-mode worrying about making the wrong choice.

    Here’s what we cover:

    • How to know if you have found your creative voice yet
    • Consistency = a magic ingredient for picture book characters
    • When does it make sense to start with Fly Your Freak Flag?
    • ...or dive straight into the Picture Book Course
    • Our creative car vs business car analogy 🚗 🤓
    • Why the Business Course tends to work best after Find Your Creative Voice, Fly Your Freak Flag
    • Freebies you can try if you're just not sure (Childhood Illustrated, the Colour Workshop, our Character Workshop and more)
    • The veeeery high-tech decision tree that makes the which-course-should-I-do choice for you 😆

    Timestamps
    00:00 – The big question: Which course first?
    01:00 – Do you know your creative voice?
    02:15 – Why consistency matters in picture books
    03:00 – Picture Book vs Freak Flag (gut instinct wins)
    04:30 – The Business Course (and why not to mix it in too soon)
    05:30 – Creative car vs business car analogy
    07:00 – What to do if you are not ready yet (hello freebies)
    08:30 – The one-hour live illustration masterclass
    09:00 – Our decision tree

    Links and goodies mentioned

    • Find Your Creative Voice – Fly Your Freak Flag
    • The Picture Book Course
    • The Business Course
    • Freebies Page
      (it's a long. Grab a cuppa.)
    • Live Illustration Masterclass
    • Art Club on Instagram - we're @thegoodshipillustration

    Byeeee for now!

    x The Good Ship Illustration

    Come and say hello!
    ✏️ @thegoodshipillustration
    🌏 www.thegoodshipillustration.com
    p.s. We love answering your illustration questions. Click here to submit your question for The Good Ship Illustration Podcast 🎙


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