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The Good CARMA Podcast

The Good CARMA Podcast pulls back the curtain on the real-world impact of police liability, risk management, and public safety decisions. Hosted by industry veterans Rob Kramer and Rob Patton, the show explores how lawsuits, policy choices, and operational decisions affect law enforcement agencies.

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S1E10: Better, Not Bitter: The Lessons That Defined Season 1 Oct 13, 2026

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In the Season 1 finale of The Good CARMA Podcast, Rob Kramer, Rob Patton, and Brian Rogers revisit the conversations, guests, and ideas that shaped the podcast’s first season.

Our hosts share their favorite episodes and explore the common themes that emerged across the season: leadership, culture, trust, training, wellness, and accountability.

They discuss insights from conversations with Gordon Graham, Jason Lewis, Jeff McGreevy, Todd Cusimano, and Denton Carlson, connecting those lessons to officer decision-making, agency performance, and risk reduction.

The episode also looks ahead to Season 2, with our hosts considering firsthand stories from officers, practical case studies, real-world incidents, wider public perspectives, and new approaches to explaining how risk-sharing and public liability affect the communities they serve.

Listeners will also hear updates about CARMA’s Leadership Edge initiative, police risk management committee, HELPP Program, and continuing training resources for member agencies.

S1E9: Excellence Isn’t an Accident: Lessons from Gordon Graham Sep 28, 2026

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In Episode 9 of The Good CARMA Podcast, Rob Kramer and Rob Patton sit down with Gordon Graham, one of the most recognized voices in public safety risk management.

Graham ((co-founder of Lexipol) shares lessons learned from a career that spans law enforcement, legal practice, education, and leadership development. Through real-world examples, the conversation highlights how fatigue, stress, and repeated exposure to trauma affect decision-making and performance. The episode also examines how organizational culture and leadership behaviors directly influence outcomes… often more than policy itself.

Listeners will learn how agencies can reduce risk through leadership, training, policy implementation, and wellness initiatives, while creating cultures focused on excellence and preservation of life.

S1E9 Trailer: Gordon Graham: Lexipol Co-Founder, Risk Management Expert Sep 22, 2026

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What separates organizations that thrive from those that struggle?

Next week on The Good CARMA Podcast, Gordon Graham, Co-Founder of Lexipol, shares hard-earned lessons from more than five decades in law enforcement, risk management, and public safety.

Discover why excellence should never be optional and why every day should be a training day.

S1E8: Better Decisions, Better Outcomes: A Law Enforcement Risk Conversation Sep 15, 2026

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In Episode 8 of The Good CARMA Podcast, Rob Patton sits down with Brian Rogers, CARMA's Training Development Consultant for Law Enforcement, to discuss how risk management, analytics, leadership, and wellness work together to improve police performance and reduce claims.

Drawing on five years of claims analysis, Brian shares how CARMA identifies common liability trends and uses that information to develop targeted training programs. The discussion explores officer wellness, active bystandership, frontline supervision, leadership development, and the importance of understanding how individual decisions impact agencies, taxpayers, and communities.

Listeners will gain insight into the connection between performance, public trust, and risk reduction, along with practical strategies that agencies can implement to improve outcomes and strengthen organizational effectiveness.

S1E8 Trailer: Brian Rogers, Training Development Consultant for Law Enforcement, CARMA Sep 08, 2026

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Can better training reduce lawsuits?

Brian Rogers believes it can. Tune in next week as we explore how claims data and supervision work together to improve performance and reduce risk across law enforcement agencies.

S1E7: Building Better Agencies Through Accreditation Sep 01, 2026

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What separates great agencies from average ones?

Retired Chief Denton Carlson joins The Good CARMA Podcast to discuss culture, accreditation, and the lessons learned from more than two decades in law enforcement. Learn how strong cultures, effective leaders, and continuous improvement help create safer communities and stronger organizations.

Program mentioned in this episode: California Accreditation for Public Safety (CAPS)

S1E7 Trailer: Chief Denton Carlson: Retired Chief of Police, San Ramon Police Department; Program Advisor, CAPS Aug 25, 2026

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How do great agencies stay great?

Next week, retired Chief Denton Carlson joins The Good CARMA Podcast to discuss leadership, organizational culture, and California's new Accreditation for Public Safety (CAPS) program.

Learn how accreditation improves agency performance and what leaders can do today to build stronger organizations for tomorrow.

S1E6: Emotional Intelligence and the Future of Policing Aug 18, 2026

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In Episode 6 of The Good CARMA Podcast, Rob Patton sits down with Chief Sarah Ryan of the Capitola Police Department for a conversation about leadership, emotional intelligence, risk management, and culture.

Chief Ryan discusses how experiences as an athlete, community member, parent, and law enforcement leader have helped shape her leadership philosophy. Episode 6 explores hiring standards, organizational culture, emotional intelligence, officer wellness, risk management, decision-making, and the importance of building trust both inside agencies and within the communities they serve.

S1E6 Trailer: Sarah Ryan, Chief of Police, Capitola Police Department Aug 11, 2026

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What does it take to lead an agency in today's policing environment?

Next time on The Good CARMA Podcast, Chief Sarah Ryan joins to discuss leadership, emotional intelligence, hiring culture, and the lessons she's learned rising through the ranks to become a police chief.

S1E5: Officer Wellness and Leadership: The Impact on Decision-Making Aug 04, 2026

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In Episode 5 of The Good CARMA Podcast, Rob Patton speaks with retired law enforcement leader Jeff McGreevy about the critical connection between officer wellness, leadership, and decision-making.

Drawing on decades of experience, McGreevy shares how cumulative trauma, burnout, and untreated stress impact performance, relationships, and outcomes in the field. This episode explores why leadership must begin with personal accountability, how trust shapes agency culture, and what organizations can do to better support their personnel.

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