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Race, inequality, and economics in the US and throughout the world from Glenn Loury.

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John McWhorter – The Truth about George Floyd's Death Dec 08, 2023

Show notes

0:00 A new documentary about George Floyd’s death raises new questions

5:42 John: “We’ve been lied to” about George Floyd’s death

14:27 The price of a “poetic truth”

20:09 Was the Derek Chauvin jury intimidated into delivering a guilty verdict?

23:26 Glenn: George Floyd was no hero

29:03 The burning of Minneapolis’s 3rd Precinct

34:54 Is there any hope of changing the George Floyd narrative?

41:48 Who will take responsibility for changing things in black America?

Recorded December 2, 2023

Links and Readings

Glenn and John’s May 2020 episode, “Cops and Race”

Liz Collin and JC Chaix’s documentary, The Fall of Minneapolis

Eli and Shelby Steele’s documentary, What Killed Michael Brown?

Barbershop, “OJ did it”

Coleman Hughes’s forthcoming book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America

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Erec Smith – Free Black Thought Dec 01, 2023

Show notes

0:00 Is “black heterodoxy” a euphemism for “black conservatism”?

13:34 Classical liberalism’s role in Free Black Thought

15:07 Erec: I saw things while working as a diversity officer that I can’t unsee

22:47 Why the Democratic Party doesn’t like Erec

30:38 How Free Black Thought is fostering agency in the black community

36:16 Erec: The onus is on us, not affirmative action, to prepare black students for college

45:19 What is rhetoric, anyway?

Recorded November 13, 2023

Links and Readings

Erec’s nonprofit, Free Black Thought

Journal of Free Black Thought

Free Black Thought’s podcast

Minnesota’s Take Charge program

The Hidden Genius Project

Glenn’s essay in the Journal of Free Black Thought, “Wrestle Not against Flesh and Blood”

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John McWhorter, Daniel Bessner & Tyler Austin Harper – The Gaza War and the Crisis of Liberalism Nov 24, 2023

Show notes

0:00 The state of campus speech after 10/7

5:48 Daniel: Why are critics of cancel culture silent when it comes to Israel?

15:43 “Explaining” Hamas vs. “excusing” Hamas

26:17 Tyler: American Jewish students worried about their safety have been primed by modern identity politics

29:31 The tension between DEI and antisemitism response teams

38:17 The linguistic ambiguity of “From the river to the sea”

43:41 The irreconcilable conflict between campus social justice and donor funding

47:49 If not liberalism, then what?

53:51 Tyler: Postwar political conservatism is coming apart

Recorded November 18, 2023

Links and Readings

Daniel’s podcast, American Prestige

Glenn’s conversation with Yascha Mounk (recorded October 3, 2023)

Adam Shatz’s book, The Rebel’s Clinic: The Revolutionary Lives of Frantz Fanon

Lisa Stampnitzky’s book, Disciplining Terror: How Experts Invented “Terrorism”

Daniel’s essay in the Nation, “A Bad Breakup”

Theodor Adorno and Max Horkheimer’s book, Dialectic of Enlightenment: Philosophical Fragments

Daniel’s Harper’s essay, “Empire Burlesque”

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Robert Wright – The Gaza War Will Create More Terrorists (Bonus Episode) Nov 19, 2023

Show notes

0:00 How Bob gave Glenn his start in podcasting

2:05 Is the Gaza War in Israel’s best interests …

11:46 … and if not, what should Israel have done in response to October 7?

18:06 How Hamas gained control of Gaza

26:53 Bob: Some in the Israeli government wouldn’t mind a wider war in the Middle East

36:46 What does “From the river to the sea” actually mean?

46:10 Bob: Every settlement in the West Bank is a war crime

54:20 The psychology of victimhood and retribution

1:00:37 The challenge of spiritual transformation

Recorded November 13, 2023

Links and Readings

Bob’s Substack, the Nonzero Newsletter

Brown University faculty’s call for a ceasefire

Glenn’s conversation with John McWhorter, “Thinking Through the Gaza War”

Bob’s Nonzero Newsletter piece, “The Truth about Hamas”

John Judis’s 2013 New Republic piece, “Clueless in Gaza”

John Judis and Ruy Texeira’s book, Where Have All the Democrats Gone?: The Soul of the Party in the Age of Extremes

Bob’s Nonzero Newsletter piece, “The ‘River to the Sea’ Rorschach Test”

Bob debates Eli Lake on Israel-Palestine

Jimmy Carter’s book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid

Bob’s book, Why Buddhism is True: The Science and Philosophy of Meditation and Enlightenment

The documentary Disturbing the Peace

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Yascha Mounk – The Identity Trap Nov 17, 2023

Show notes

0:35 A quick announcement

1:46 What led Yascha to write about identity

6:22 An intellectual history of “identity synthesis”

12:15 What’s so bad about “strategic essentialism”?

19:15 From postmodernism to post-civil rights

28:45 The three key claims of identity synthesis

36:02 What led up to the summer of 2020?

45:51 The hermetically sealed ideology of Kendi and DiAngelo

50:45 Yascha’s defense of universalism

Recorded October 3, 2023

Links and Readings

Yascha’s new book, The Identity Trap: A Story of Ideas and Power in Our Time

Michel Foucault’s book, The Order of Things: An Archaeology of the Human Sciences

Edward Said’s book, Orientalism

Gayatri Spivak’s essay, “Can the Subaltern Speak?”

Glenn’s debate with Kmele Foster, Shelby Steele, Robert Woodson, and Reihan Salam

Karen and Barbara Fields’s book, Racecraft: The Soul of Inequality in American Life

Tommie Shelby’s book, We Who Are Dark: The Philosophical Foundations of Black Solidarity

Noam Chomsky and Michel Foucault’s 1971 debate on Dutch television

Derrick Bell’s book, Faces at the Bottom of the Well: The Permanence of Racism

Derrick Bell’s essay, “Serving Two Masters: Integration Ideals and Client Interests in School Desegregation Litigation”

Mahalia Jackson singing “We Shall Overcome”

Roy D’Andrade’s article, “Moral Models in Anthropology”

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Reza Aslan – An American Martyr in Persia Nov 10, 2023

Show notes

0:00 Persia at the turn of the twentieth century

6:43 Woodrow Wilson’s contradictions

11:14 Did Howard Baskerville escape the prejudices of his time?

16:39 How Baskerville got involved in Persia’s democratic revolution

26:43 How Czar Nicholas II aided the counter-revolution

32:29 The erasure of Baskerville in post-1979 Iran

36:31 The theological origin of the Islamic Republic of Iran

45:01 Reza: Ordinary Iranians actually love American culture

48:51 The internal and external pressures on Iran

57:21 The amorality of foreign policy

Recorded October 25, 2023

Links and Readings

Reza’s book, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth

Reza’s new book, An American Martyr in Persia: The Epic Life and Tragic Death of Howard Baskerville

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October 2023 Q&A Nov 08, 2023

Show notes

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Glenn and John answer subscriber questions.

John McWhorter – Thinking Through the Gaza War Nov 03, 2023

Show notes

0:00 Why John thinks pro-Hamas sentiment on the American left is racist

6:11 Distinguishing between anti-colonialism and antisemitism

12:46 There are great crimes in America’s past. But we shouldn’t let them define us.

17:08 Glenn: We’re standing on the precipice of something catastrophic

27:57 John’s proposal for the US’s role in Israel’s domestic conflict

34:59 Is it right for people to lose their jobs over opposing Israel?

42:07 Why are pro-Hamas leftists supporting an anti-liberal regime?

47:01 Glenn and John’s responsibilities as teachers

52:26 What’s next on TGS

Recorded October 28, 2023

Links and Readings

John’s Free Press piece, “The Ultimate Condescension Toward Palestinians”

Adam Shatz’s LRB essay, “Vengeful Pathologies”

Joe Biden’s Oval Office address on Israel and Ukraine

Reza Aslan’s book, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth

Reza Aslan’s new book, An American Martyr in Persia: The Epic Life and Tragic Death of Howard Baskerville

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John Mearsheimer – America's Sunk Cost in Ukraine Oct 27, 2023

Show notes

0:00 Why John thinks Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was rational

6:55 How small states deal with world powers

10:13 If Russia’s action were rational, were the US’s?

16:40 John: The Ukraine invasion violates international law, but Russia has reason to see it as just

21:58 The risk of escalation

29:26 Zelensky’s expert manipulation of the West

33:51 Is it a coincidence that so many recent presidential scandals involve Ukraine?

39:57 Can tolerant liberals tolerate illiberal societies?

45:45 American Russophobia didn’t cause the war, but it’s not helping

49:19 John: If Putin is overthrown, his replacement will probably be even more brutal

53:35 The foreign policy establishment’s grip on both Democrats and Republicans

Links and Readings

John’s Substack

John’s book, with Sebastian Rosato, How States Think: The Rationality of Foreign Policy

John’s essay, “Bound to Lose”

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John McWhorter & Coleman Hughes – The Colorblindness Controversy and Israel-Hamas Oct 20, 2023

Show notes

0:00 The blowback from Coleman’s TED Talk

8:50 Did TED intentionally throttle promotion for Coleman’s talk?

17:08 John’s trouble with TED while promoting Woke Racism

20:21 Coleman’s forthcoming book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America

29:17 Race in public and private life

43:49 Closure on the TED affair

45:14 What are the goals of each side in the Israel-Palestine conflict?

51:58 Will the Israeli military response simply restart the cycle of violence and resentment?

1:02:15 The threat of post-October 7 overreaction

Links and Readings

Coleman’s Substack, Coleman’s Corner

Coleman’s podcast, Conversations with Coleman

Coleman’s forthcoming book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America

Coleman's conversation with Glenn Greenwald about the TED Talk

Coleman’s TED Talk, “A Case for Color Blindness”

Coleman’s Free Press piece, “Why Is TED Scared of Color Blindness”

Coleman’s conversation with Jamelle Bouie

Geroge Packer’s Atlantic piece, “Israel Must Not React Stupidly”

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