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    The Glenn Show

    Race, inequality, and economics in the US and throughout the world from Glenn Loury.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Benjamin Fleury-Steiner – Remembering October 7 Jul 19, 2024
    Show notes

    Buy Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393881349

    2:29 Have we already forgotten the horror of October 7?

    9:22 Ben: We can’t ignore the loss of innocent life in Gaza

    13:58 “From the river to the sea” and “all lives matter”

    22:00 Celebrating the deaths of Israelis

    26:31 Drawing the line at BDS

    33:05 Glenn: If you want free speech, prepare to be uncomfortable

    37:44 Columbia University administrators put on leave after allegedly antisemitic text messages

    41:41 How Glenn discovered Benjamin’s work

    47:40 The social meaning of race

    51:01 The invitation to empathy in Late Admissions

    59:02 Benjamin’s work with the Inside-Out Prison Exchange Program

    Recorded July 10, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Benjamin’s book, Juror’s Stories of Death: How America’s Death Penalty Invests in Inequality

    Benjamin’s book, Dying Inside: The HIV/AIDS Ward at Limestone Prison

    Benjamin’s book, Disposable Heroes: The Betrayal of African American Veterans

    Glenn’s conversation with Omer Bartov

    Glenn’s book, Race, Incarceration, and American Values

    Glenn’s book, The Anatomy of Racial Inequality

    Erving Goffman’s book, Stigma: Notes on the Management of Spoiled Identity

    Erving Goffman’s book, The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life

    Robert Putnam’s book, Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community

    Orlando Patterson’s book, Slavery and Social Death: A Comparative Study

    Coleman Hughes’s book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America

    Eduardo Bonilla-Silva’s book, Racism without Racists: Color-Blind Racism and the Persistence of Racial Inequality in America

    Glenn’s conversation with his son, Glenn Loury II

    The Inside-Out Prison Exchange Student


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

    John McWhorter – Biden's Disastrous Debate Jul 12, 2024
    Show notes

    1:18 John: Biden probably should not be running for president

    7:47 Who’s running the country?

    11:17 Presidential b******t

    13:35 Ground News ad

    15:56 Is Kamala up to the big job?

    22:44 Kamala’s questionable climb to the top

    27:53 The NYT Editorial Board’s surprising call for Biden to drop out

    33:50 Trump at Gettysburg

    35:45 Trump’s victory is now more probable. But is it more defensible?

    40:42 Interrogating the “elitist backlash” interpretation of Trumpism

    45:43 How should Dems proceed in a post-Biden election?Recorded July 4, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Full video of the Trump-Biden debate

    Harry G. Frankfurter’s book, On B******t

    Clip from Adam McKay’s film, Vice

    Kamala Harris attacks Biden during a 2019 primary debate

    Kamala Harris defends Biden’s recent debate performance

    NYT Editorial Board calls on Biden to leave the race

    Jill Biden’s Vogue cover


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

    Mark Sussman & Nikita Petrov – The Billionaire Class's Doomsday Plans Jul 05, 2024
    Show notes

    0:00 Intro

    1:28 Biden’s abysmal debate performance

    5:01 Billionaire survivalists

    12:53 So you made it to your luxury bunker. Now what?

    16:22 The postapocalyptic war of all against all

    21:29 Is the very existence of billionaires the real doomsday scenario?

    26:20 The doomsday tax

    32:24 Will the bunker dwellers have a reason to live?

    40:39 The problem of government after nuclear holocaust

    46:08 The literal bunker mentality

    52:08 Was Mark responsible for Sam Bankman-Fried’s downfall? Who can say for sure?

    Recorded June 28, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Evan Osnos’s 2017 New Yorker piece, “Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich”

    Douglas Rushkoff’s book, Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires

    Douglas Rushkoff’s Guardian piece, “The Super-Rich ‘Preppers’ Planning to Save Themselves from the Apocalypse”

    Ingrid Schmidt’s Hollywood Reporter piece, “Billionaires’ Survivalist Bunkers Go Absolutely Bonkers with Fiery Moats and Water Cannons”

    Andre Mayer’s CBC News piece, “From Luxury Bunkers to Tactical Vehicles, the Ultra-Rich Are Preparing for the Big One”

    Cixin Liu’s trilogy of sci-fi novels, The Three Body Problem

    Everybody Loves Raymond complete series DVD box set

    Louis van Gasteren’s documentary, Now Do You Get Why I Am Crying?

    Paul Celan’s Selected Poems and Prose, translated by John Felstiner

    Tadeusz Borowski’s book, This Way for the Gas, Ladies and Gentleman

    Glenn, Nikita, and Mark’s previous conversation, “The Ethics of Giving in the Very Long Term”


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

    Winkfield Twyman Jr. & Jennifer Richmond – Black Identity's Divisive History [Bonus Episode] Jun 30, 2024
    Show notes

    0:00 Great writing is “a marriage of life and honesty”

    3:20 Glenn: I am my book’s primary audience

    8:00 Glenn the Rationalist vs Glenn the Believer

    18:00 How much did Glenn’s socio-economic status affect his sense of black belonging?

    24:26 The radical rhetoric of privileged African Americans

    29:38 Against reparations

    33:57 A raised fist, but not a hand out

    40:27 Colorblindness in theory and practice

    50:11 Is race orthodoxy the first step on the road to totalitarianism?

    1:03:01 Self-reliance and individualism

    Recorded June 26, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative

    Jennifer and Winkfield’s book, Letters in Black and White: A New Correspondence on Race

    Stephen Shames and Ericka Huggins’s book, Comrade Sisters: Women of the Black Panther Party

    Jon Gray, Pierre Serrao, and Lester Walker’s cookbook, Ghetto Gastro Presents Black Power Kitchen

    Glenn’s essay, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related Phenomena”

    Thomas Chatterton Williams’s book, Self-Portrait in Black and White: Unlearning Race

    Sheena Michele Mason’s forthcoming book, The Raceless Antiracist: Why Ending Race Is the Future of Antiracism

    Coleman Hughes’s book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America

    Winkfield and Jennifer’s conversation with Angel Eduardo

    Free Black Thought

    Václav Havel’s book, The Power of the Powerless

    Ralph Waldo Emerson’s essay, “Self-Reliance”


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

    John McWhorter – June 2024 Q&A Jun 28, 2024
    Show notes

    0:00 Why the different format?

    4:04 Joe asks John to account for his “emotional and irrational conclusions” about Trump and his recent conviction

    15:28 Ground News ad

    17:49 Did John really mean it when he implied he hoped someone would assassinate Trump?

    23:00 Lauren wants John to justify his “casual endorsement” of gender fluidity in pronoun usage

    32:37 Jerry asks why “external factors” like poverty are often used to explain lagging African American scholastic performance, those factors haven’t hindered them from achieving wildly disproportionate success in the cultural realm

    38:34 Patrick calls out Glenn for his frequent use of the word “irregardless”

    41:26 kgweiland asks Glenn if the Pamela Foster story in my memoir was “yours to share”

    46:17 Scott Alex has some technical questions about linguistics for John

    50:01 Jakon Joi asks for advice dealing with the tragic, possibly racially motivated murder of her father

    Recorded June 23, 2024

    Links and Readings

    June 2024 thread of subscriber questions

    John talking about Trump voters on Real Time in 2023

    Daniel Bessner and Glenn on Real Time in 2023

    Richard Dawkins interviews John

    John’s book, The Language Hoax: Why the World Looks the Same in Any Language


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

    Glenn Loury II – Love, Death & the Lourys Jun 21, 2024
    Show notes

    0:00 Glenn II returns to The Glenn Show

    2:17 Glenn II: Dad, you’re not really a “conservative” in the present-day sense of the term

    13:20 Glenn and Glenn II agree that the “systemic racism” argument is overblown but disagree over what to do about it

    22:04 What social conditions lead to the kind of behavior Glenn often condemns?

    31:36 The luck and privilege that allowed Glenn to recover from his mistakes

    39:19 Glenn II: “I found myself getting angry at someone who doesn’t exist anymore”

    46:59 The conversation Glenn never had with his father

    51:06 What Late Admissions taught Glenn II about his father

    57:32 Grace in the face of public scandal

    1:01:28 Love, death, and the Lourys

    Recorded June 15, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Glenn’s essay, “Self-Censorship in a Time of War”

    Scenes from The Wire, Season 4

    Glenn and Glenn II’s September 2018 Bloggingheads conversation

    Glenn II’s book, Invisible Funerals: A Tale of Nine Burials

    Glenn II’s book, Love Letters & Elegies: Tales from Beyond the Pale

    Glenn II’s book, What Death Can Touch


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

    John McWhorter – Inside the Ibram X. Kendi Collapse Jun 14, 2024
    Show notes

    ORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393881349

    0:00 Glenn and John’s summer plans

    3:56 Glenn’s forthcoming book on self-censorship

    9:53 John’s forthcoming book on pronouns

    17:25 Ground News ad

    19:45 Inside the audiobook recording process

    21:13 Why John isn’t celebrating Trump’s conviction

    27:34 What’s so “monstrous” about Trump?

    32:17 Is Trump demonizing immigrants or proposing sensible border regulation?

    39:17 Inside the collapse of Ibram X. Kendi’s research center

    44:42 Does Kendi’s fall mark the end of the woke moment?

    49:15 The willful incomprehension directed at Byron Donalds

    55:11 Joe Biden’s outdated speech at Morehouse

    Recorded June 8, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Glenn’s 1994 essay, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related Phenomena”

    Henry Frankfurt’s book, On B******t

    Glenn and John’s conversation with Mark Goldblatt

    Rachel Poser’s New York Times Magazine piece, “Ibram X. Kendi Faces a Reckoning of His Own”

    Herbert Guttman’s book, The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom, 1750-1925

    Joe Biden’s commencement address at Morehouse


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

    Joshua Cohen – Donald Trump's Conviction Jun 07, 2024
    Show notes

    ORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393881349

    0:00 How Josh got Glenn started in podcasting

    3:05 Early career advice to Glenn: Don’t be an a*****e

    6:30 A recent loss in Josh’s life

    8:36 Did Trump’s prosecution and conviction set a dangerous precedent?

    15:37 Biden’s uninspiring presidential campaign

    19:38 Josh: Trump is “an enemy of and a threat to … fundamental political values”

    23:22 The problem of the meritocracy

    28:54 The “shame” Glenn felt after his speech at a synagogue

    39:19 The things left unsaid about the Gaza War

    47:22 Were Glenn’s fears about reaction to his thoughts about Gaza overblown?

    51:23 Can mistaken ad hominem inferences about audiences initiate self-censorship on the part of speakers?

    55:55 When Manhattan Institute President Reihan Salaam when to Berkeley

    1:00:58 Josh: Campus protests have basically been a good thing

    1:09:33 Josh’s thoughts on what John Rawls might have said about the State of Israel

    Recorded June 1, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Glenn’s writing for Boston Review

    Glenn and Josh’s first Bloggingheads conversation

    Michael Lind’s UnHerd piece, “Trump’s Conviction Is an Assault on Democracy”

    Michael Sandel’s book, The Tyranny of Merit

    Michael Sandel’s Boston Review piece, “How Markets Crowd Out Morals”

    Michael Sandel discusses The Tyranny of Merit on TGS

    Glenn’s Substack post, “Self-Censorship in a Time of War”

    Glenn’s 1994 essay, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related Phenomena”

    Glenn’s Palm Beach Synagogue speech, “What Has Become of the Partnership between Black and Jews”

    John Mearsheimer on TGS

    Omer Bartov on TGS

    Reihan Salam’s book, Melting Pot or Civil War?

    The Kalven Committee Report

    John Rawls’s book, A Theory of Justice

    John Rawls’s book, The Law of Peoples

    Josh’s essay, “Is There a Human Right to Democracy?”


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

    May 2024 Q&A Jun 05, 2024
    Show notes

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit glennloury.substack.com

    After a two-month hiatus, John and I are back for a Q&A session. This time around, as an experiment, we asked subscribers to submit non-political questions. Let’s see what you came up with.


    John McWhorter, Charles Murray, Amy Wax, Jordan Peterson & Lex Fridman – The Race and Intelligence Debate May 31, 2024
    Show notes

    ORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393881349

    0:00 A message from Glenn

    1:14 Unsettling the “Settled Questions,” Glenn Loury & John McWhorter

    2:59 The Race and IQ Question, Glenn Loury & John McWhorter

    12:19 Facing Reality, Glenn Loury & Charles Murray

    21:40 The IQ Taboo, Glenn Loury & Amy Wax

    31:08 Debate with an Embattled Racial Realist, Glenn Loury & Amy Wax

    45:44 The Uncomfortable Truth Behind Economic Inequality, Glenn Loury

    48:21 The Dangers of Research into Race & IQ, Glenn Loury & Lex Fridman


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

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