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Lawrence Jones - Episode 14 Mar 24, 2021

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Lawrence Jones of Fox News and Fox Nation joins Steve Krakauer to talk about where Fox News stands in the media ecosystem, the rise of digital media and the role of legacy media, what he learned covering unrest last year, the "grievance politics" on both sides of the aisle, working for Barack Obama (and James O'Keefe), and more.

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Salena Zito - Episode 13 Mar 12, 2021

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Salena Zito, reporter and columnist for the Washington Examiner and the New York Post, joins Steve Krakauer to talk about how she saw Trump coming when the rest of the media didn't in 2016, dealing with her most ardent critics, her time at CNN, the value of local news, her reporting style, the media's COVID coverage and more.

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Dana Perino - Episode 12 Feb 25, 2021

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Dana Perino, co-host of "America's Newsroom" on Fox News and author of the forthcoming book, "Everything Will Be Okay," joins Steve Krakauer to talk about the evolving role of the press secretary, the way the media covered the Trump administration (and will be covering the Biden administration), Fox News' place in the media, traditional vs. digital media, working with Tony Snow, her new book and more.

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Piers Morgan - Episode 11 Feb 02, 2021

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Piers Morgan, editor-at-large of the Daily Mail and co-host of Good Morning Britain, joins Steve Krakauer, to talk about the media in the Biden Era, what his relationship with Donald Trump is now, CNN's past, present and future, Rupert Murdoch's legacy, the power of social media, and more.

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Tara Palmeri - Episode 10 Jan 19, 2021

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Tara Palmeri, writer for Politico Playbook and host of the "Power: The Maxwells" podcast, joins Steve Krakauer to talk about covering the Trump White House, the media's Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell coverage (or lack of coverage), covering the powerful in NYC media and entertainment for Page Six, her time writing for Politico Europe, the incoming administration and more.

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Bob Ley - Episode 9 Jan 12, 2021

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Bob Ley, legendary ESPN anchor, joins Steve Krakauer to talk about the way social media has changed the media landscape, the value of trust in the media, priorities (and cuts) at his former employer ESPN, culture and sports colliding, how COVID changed sports and sports media and more.

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Erick Erickson - Episode 8 Dec 29, 2020

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Erick Erickson, host of the radio show, The Erick Erickson Show, joins Steve Krakauer to talk about the future of media post-Trump, what the conservative media does next, the #NeverTrump contingent in the media, his time at Fox News and at CNN (and what CNN is like now), the role of faith in the media, how he'd fix the media world if he had $10 million and more.

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Wesley Lowery - Episode 7 Dec 21, 2020

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Wesley Lowery, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist currently with CBS News, joins Steve Krakauer to talk about journalism in the Trump Era, the discourse surrounding the 1619 Project and other journalism efforts, the Twitter effect on the media, the bias in the national media toward national politics over local issues, "moral clarity" vs. objectivity and more.

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Ben Domenech - Episode 6 Nov 29, 2020

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Ben Domenech, co-founder and publisher of The Federalist, joins Steve Krakauer to talk about our current media landscape, what Trump coming (and going) did to the power of the legacy media, the shift to new, independent media outlets, how he got his start in the media and politics, the unique hate that comes his way (and is aimed at his wife, Meghan McCain too), and more.

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Olivia Nuzzi - Episode 5 Nov 23, 2020

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Olivia Nuzzi, Washington correspondent for New York magazine, joins Steve Krakauer to talk about the Trump Era media, signing the Harper's Letter, the absurd reaction to the New York Times' Tom Cotton op-ed, her start as an intern for Anthony Weiner, Betsy Rothstein, the "cowardice" of the White House press corps and more.

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