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    The Fifth Column

    Your weekly rhetorical assault on the on the news cycle, the people who make it, and occasionally ourselves. Kmele Foster (Freethink), Michael Moynihan (Vice), and Matt Welch (Reason) talk and laugh and drink their way to at least quasi-sanity in a world gone mad, often with the aid of clean and articulate guests. Weekly Members Only subscription edition often comes with listener mail and professional-quality (if inappropriate) singing. Analysis. Commentary. Sedition.

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    UNLOCKED: Atheist in a Foxhole, w/ the Great Sebastian Junger Dec 03, 2025
    Show notes

    Periodically around these parts the audience demand for unpaywalling certain subscribers-only episodes becomes too clamorous to ignore. So it was with Members Only #286, our gripping conversation with celebrated author Sebastian Junger about his harrowing new book, In My Time of Dying.

    “Please consider making this a non-members only episode,” wrote beloved subscriber James G. “Ditto,” seconded Daniel Cavelli. “I wanna send this to many people.” Similar beseechings from random_academic, Jake O’Finkelstein, [Dr.] Jeff Singer, Lara Merkel Ross, and Oren, who added: “I have a friend who barely survived a massive heart attack last month. And I can think of many others who will be inspired by this incredible conversation.”

    To our longtime paying customers: We hear you! Please share the episode widely, either as a one-off or a come-on!

    To our many brand new paying subscribers, brought here by a generous gift, welcome to this weird & wonderful community, and please enjoy full run of the Comments and Chat. And to those seeing/hearing us for the first time, or just flying in the very back of the plane, here is the type of content that can come with a paid subscription. As our dear old D.C. pal Maura Flynn put it, “You make my support increasingly worthwhile and I encourage everyone who can to contribute on the highest possible level. Great stuff, rock on!”

    You know what to do.

    •You can always start drinking again

    •Enough to make ⅔ of these grown men cry

    •Sebastian’s (most recent) near-death experience

    •Danger in, insight out

    •Momento Mori

    •There’s nothing so dangerous as a wounded Apache

    •Don’t have an aortic rupture in Truro in July

    •ICU humor

    •Hi dad

    •An existential digression

    •Better than the one with Will Farrel

    •Ideological Duolingo

    •Hot tip from an immigration officer

    •Old-time antisemitism

    •Bestselling author sleeps with chainsaw

    •Sarajevo & the Spanish Civil War

    •Men’s Journal and the good old days of war reporting

    •The folly of Afghanistan and nation-building on the cheap

    •Some things are sacred

    •Investigating near death experiences

    •Don’t test Santa Claus

    •Etymology of a curse

    •Atheists, physicists, and consciousness

    •God of the gaps

    •Yes, we are literally talking about quantum physics

    •The science of myth

    •The reason for the need the idea of heaven

    •Restrepo

    •Why we all need a tribe

    •Things were better when they were bad

    •If you’re not sufficiently terrified, you’re not getting it.

    •A tribute to dangerous jobs

    •Making meaning in a meaningless universe

    •A Bostonian goodbye

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    UNLOCKED - Members Only #289 - Destroy All Robots…Before They Destroy US (w/ Andy Mills) Dec 02, 2025
    Show notes

    Andy Mills joins to discuss his new Longview podcast, The Last Invention

    The last invention is…a new species

    Humanity’s coming “hinge moment”

    Doomers v. Accelerationists v. Scouts

    We are the ants

    When Elon warned Obama

    A digital God in a silicon box

    Have AI’s creators created something they don’t understand?

    Bubbles

    Was DOGE a backdoor to replacing government with AI?

    We’re all going to die!!!!

    The populist fight against AI

    And the populist embrace of AI

    Spike Jonze: AI prophet

    Moynihan rewatches Good Will Hunting....

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    Members Only #288 (LIVE in Los Angeles) - American Canyon Revisited Nov 29, 2025
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    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com

    You asked for it, you got it! A session with just Matt, Michael, and Kmele… plus 200 of their closest friends. It’s The Fifth Column recorded LIVE in Burbank (just like Fleetwood Mac) on Sunday, November 23, 2025. Want early access to the next live show (and full access to this episode)? It’s easy: become a paid subscriber!

    •The Klonopin Diaries

    •Cover Ma…


    Members Only #287 - Hoarding Epstein’s Emails, Band T-Shirts, and Air Jordans (w Jason Leopold) Nov 27, 2025
    Show notes

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com

    Check out Jason Leopold’s FOIA Files newsletter, and the new Disclosure podcast•Steve Albini never had to deal with California fires

    •Like a baby monitor, but for records

    •This is a Fugazi t-shirt

    •The trouble with true Norwegian black metal

    •All hail Metal Mike

    •Jason Leopold, FOIA terrorist

    •There’s always work at the post office

    •CIA man

    •New York financier …


    #534 - Even the Mayor Says L.A. Isn’t Well Governed (w/ Karen Bass) Nov 25, 2025
    Show notes

    • Not safe at home, mayoral edition

    • “The guns were decades old”

    • The Trump/Mamdani bromance

    • The administration’s historic post-fire response

    • “You’re walking down the street, you happen to look Latino, or somebody hears you speak Spanish. A car rushes up in front of you. Masked men jump out with rifles and throw you in the car”

    • What does “sanctuary city” actually mean?

    • Like, no really, what does it mean?

    • “You know, that’s a good question”

    • “There’s a number of people who have literally disappeared”

    • ICE effect on restaurants: Worse than COVID

    * Trump effect on border: Closed

    • “The Future of the Democratic Party Is Local”

    • You lost me at L.A. being governed worth a damn

    • Fire rebuilding? “I understand that people are angry”

    • Me, 10 years ago: “Affordable-Housing Problem Lies, in Part, with Government”

    • “The insurance industry … has been devastating a lot of homeowners”

    • The heavily regulated insurance industry, you mean?

    • “The Case for Letting Malibu Burn”

    • Why prevent Palisades homeowners from rebuilding duplexes?• “Don’t take your lot and turn it into a five-story apartment building”

    • “We want to get affordable housing built in this city, but I think that if you impose it on a neighborhood, then you will have hardcore NIMBYs”

    • “I didn’t appreciate that, because they were getting ready to change low-income areas, wipe out the single-family homes, and turned it into massive apartments”

    • “I’m protecting them from the predations of private developers”

    • She really did almost become vice president

    • “I love podcasts…. Maybe I wanted to become a newscaster”

    • What Karen Bass learned from Angela Davis

    • About those eight trips to Cuba

    • “What fascinated me about Cuba is that they provided free health care to their population, and free education”

    • The LAUSD’s construction boom for non-existent students

    • “We could always put more money in our schools”

    • “Judge me by how fewer encampments you see on the street. Judge me by crime decreasing. Judge me by affordable housing units being built”

    Prefer to watch & chat live with other members of the Fifthdom? This episode premieres over on our YouTube channel at 10am EST.

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    #533 - Moynihan vs. Moynihan (w/ Lydia Moynihan) Nov 20, 2025
    Show notes

    * The Doppelgänger

    * Where do these Moynihans come from?

    * The journalism disease

    * You do not want to get a call from the New York Post

    * From schadenfreude to envious cruelty

    * Covering the powerful

    * What is “social proof?”

    * The Epstein obsession

    * Incompetence defeats the deep state

    * Epstein and language inflation

    * Representing the Trump voter

    * MTG’s difficulty with economics

    * Everyone’s difficulty with economics

    * Let’s get a Juul and watch Beetlejuice

    * She’s young. He’s not. But they both hate the young.

    * Lydia loves deportations

    * Her billion dollar idea is…sausage?

    Prefer to watch & chat live with other members of the Fifthdom? This episode premieres over on our YouTube channel at 10am EST.

    Thanks for reading The Fifth Column (A Podcast)! This post is public so feel free to share it.

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    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe

    Members Only #286 - Atheist in a Foxhole (w/ Sebastian Junger) Nov 18, 2025
    Show notes

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com

    We are joined by journalist, author, filmmaker, and chainsaw-wielder Sebastian Junger. His latest book In My Time of Dyingis a touching reflection on death… and what might follow.

    Paid subscribers get access to this and hundreds of other Members Only episodes.

    •You can always start drinking again

    •Enough to make ⅔ of these grown men cry

    •Sebastian’s (most recent) near-de…


    #532 - Trinnies, Joy Bells, and Race Pride (w/ Abby Phillip) Nov 13, 2025
    Show notes

    * The dog hasn’t barked

    * He knew about the girls. But we *knew* that

    * So what, if anything, do these emails prove?

    * Conspiracies, anomalies, pornography

    * That’s a bad, no good, awful Times headline

    * Enter Abby Phillip

    * The battle of the Caribbean

    * We couldn’t afford to fail

    * A distinct lack of psychopaths and Holocaust deniers

    * I care too much….

    * Abby’s Jesse Jackson book

    * Abby: Sorry Kmele, racism is real and structural

    * TV, before the echo chamber?

    * When dehumanization turns into pride

    * A French, Swiss, Quebecois goodbye

    Prefer to watch & chat live with other members of the Fifthdom? This episode premieres over on our YouTube channel at 10am EST.

    Thanks for reading The Fifth Column (A Podcast)! This post is public so feel free to share it.

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    Members Only #285 - The Case For American Power (w/ Shadi Hamid) Nov 11, 2025
    Show notes

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com

    It’s release day for Shadi Hamid’s new book, The Case For American Power, and we’re excited to have him back on The Fifth. Paying subscribers get access to the full interview in audio & video (plus literally hundreds more), and help us do what we do, so…

    In this episode:

    * Shadi makes the “case for American power”

    * A love letter to America, “despite all its faults”

    * Mor…


    #531 - Liberal of Fox News, Unite! (w/ Jessica Tarlov) Nov 06, 2025
    Show notes

    We’re joined by Jessica Tarlov, co-host of The Five on Fox News, and Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway.

    •Among the cons

    •What does it all mean?

    •Over performance. Under performance

    •AOC’s war

    •What if the people who you want to destroy are the same people who ensure your existence?

    •You can afford to live here. Just not *here*

    •How to moderate a trans debate

    •The USDA wants you to stop mutilating kids so America can sell soybeans

    •Oh SNAP and guess what I saw…

    •“Affordability” for Smith College grads

    •The health care costs are too damn high

    •Will populism, left and right, destroy us all?

    •So what’s the Tucker vibe within the Fox building?

    •Can the “Fox liberal” ignore the online hate?

    •Your viewers might have died, but new old ones took their place!

    Prefer to watch & chat live with other members of the Fifthdom? This episode premieres over on our YouTube channel at 10am EST.

    Thanks for reading The Fifth Column (A Podcast)! This post is public so feel free to share it.

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    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe

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