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    The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

    The Europeans is a fresh and entertaining weekly podcast about European politics and culture, recorded each week between Paris and Amsterdam with fascinating guests joining from across Europe. This multiple award-winning podcast fills you in on the major European politics stories and other European news of the week, as well as fun and quirky nuggets that have been missed by most media outlets. Hosted by Katy Lee, a journalist based in Paris, and Dominic Kraemer, an opera singer in Amsterdam, The Europeans covers everything from elections and climate policy to the best new European films and TV shows. We also produce investigative podcasts about everything from the European farming lobby to oat milk. Yes, oat milk. Katy and Dominic are old friends, and the warmth and intimacy of their conversations will soon make you feel like you’ve known them a long time too. They approach topics with a light and humorous tone that makes The Europeans stand out from other European news podcasts, while remaining journalistically rigorous and meticulously fact-checked. The Europeans has been recommended by The New York Times, The Guardian, Buzzfeed, The Financial Times, and many other outlets. Katy Lee, a British-French reporter, has written for major outlets including The Guardian, Politico Europe, Agence France-Presse (AFP), Foreign Policy and The New Statesman for more than a decade, covering French and European politics and more recently, climate change. Dominic Kraemer, a British-German opera singer, performs across Europe when he is not co-hosting The Europeans, with roles recently at the Staatsoper in Berlin, the Dutch National Opera and the Münchener Biennale. The Europeans’ team is completed by producers Katz Laszlo in Amsterdam and Wojciech Oleksiak in Warsaw. You’ll hear them joining Katy and Dominic from time to time, particularly during investigative episodes like ‘The Oatly Chronicles’ and ‘The Big-Agri Bully Boys’. The Europeans’ breezy, informal approach to covering European news has won awards such as a Covering Climate Now award for an episode about the Swiss women who sued their government at the European Court of Human Rights demanding more climate action; Germany’s prestigious CIVIS Media Prize for ‘Mohamed’, an episode that explores the everyday life of a young undocumented man in Amsterdam; and best LGBTQIA+ short at the MiraBan UK Film Awards for ‘Josh and Franco’, the coming-of-age story of a father and son, both gay. Our guests have included everyone from major figures in European politics such as Alexander Stubb, now the President of Finland, and Roberta Metsola, President of the European Parliament, to star chefs Asma Khan and Christian Puglisi, celebrated illustrator Christoph Niemann, and environmentalist George Monbiot. Since launching in 2017, we’ve talked about everything from elections in France, Italy and many more countries besides, to the politics of halloumi cheese in Cyprus, to why Donald Trump is so hard for TV interpreters to translate. We pride ourselves on covering European politics, European news and European culture from a pan-European perspective. You’ll often hear stories on The Europeans from parts of the continent that don’t usually receive enough attention from major international media outlets, especially Central, Eastern and Southern Europe. You might enjoy The Europeans if you also enjoy one of these other podcasts: The News Agents, On the Media, Today in Focus, Inside Europe, The Journal, EU Confidential, The Daily, The Globalist, Reasons to be Cheerful, The Media Show, Power Play, and The New Statesman. Whether you’re already a European news nerd, or simply someone who’d like to be better informed about what’s happening across Europe, The Europeans is the podcast for you. Support us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/europeanspodcast

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    The biggest climate case that ever was May 26, 2023
    Show notes

    We usually see young people as the face of climate activism. This week, we find out how 2,000 Swiss women, all over the age of 65, took their government to court in a case that could change climate laws across Europe. And along the way, we figure out once and for all how the European Court of Human Rights actually works.


    This is a special episode made in cooperation with the Allianz Foundation, one of several podcasts we're making this year about sustainability with their support. Stay tuned later in the year to hear more.


    You can find out more about the KlimaSeniorinnen here.


    Listening from Amsterdam? The Forum on European Culture runs at De Balie from May 31-June 4, with a ton of great speakers on the line-up. Find the full programme here: https://cultureforum.eu/programme-2023


    Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at ⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠ (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by ⁠leaving us a review⁠ or giving us five stars on Spotify.


    FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT HERE: https://europeanspodcast.com/episodes/the-biggest-climate-case-that-ever-was


    Reporter and producer: Katz Laszlo

    Editor: Katy Lee

    Editorial support: Dominic Kraemer and Wojciech Oleksiak

    Sound design, mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak

    Music by Jim Barne, Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions


    Twitter | Instagram | hello@europeanspodcast.com

    The naughty child of NATO? May 18, 2023
    Show notes

    We've been glued to the Turkish elections over the past week. But what does Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's victory in the first round mean for the country, and for Europe as a whole? This week we ring up political scientist Ahmet Erdi Öztürk to find out. We're also talking about a big boost in Germany's support for Ukraine, a fake tan controversy, and the teeny tiny bridge behind the Mona Lisa.


    FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT HERE: https://europeanspodcast.com/episodes/the-naughty-child-of-nato


    You can follow Erdi on Twitter @ahmeterdiozturk.


    Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at ⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠ (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by ⁠leaving us a review⁠ or giving us five stars on Spotify.


    This week's Isolation Inspiration: Cautionary Tales: 'The Man Who Bet His House on a Pop Song - A Eurovision Tale' and 'The Hundred-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out The Window And Disappeared' by Jonas Jonasson


    00:22 Together again

    03:31 Good Week: Is Germany's Ukraine 'turning point' actually here?

    11:27 Red-faced over orange-face

    19:26 Interview: Ahmet Erdi Öztürk on the Turkish elections

    28:23 Isolation Inspiration: 'The Man Who Bet His House on a Pop Song' and 'The Hundred-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out The Window And Disappeared'

    33:19 Happy Ending: A Mona Lisa mystery solved?

    Producers: Katy Lee and Wojciech Oleksiak

    Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak

    Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina

    Twitter | Instagram | hello@europeanspodcast.com

    Eurovision vs. The Champions League May 11, 2023
    Show notes

    This week is a bonanza for fans of Europe's two favourite competitions: the Champions League football tournament and the Eurovision Song Contest. Both are held up as events that bring Europeans together, but which one does the job better? This week we aim to settle the debate once and for all with a face-off between sports commentator Barbara Barend and Eurovision historian Dean Vuletic. We're also talking about a €300-million EU pension black hole and France's first rap awards.


    Do you live in Europe, and do you enjoy this podcast? If so, you can celebrate democracy and fund our show at the same time, by signing up to join the Capital of European Democracy jury. It only takes a few clicks and it's a huge help to us! Sign up here before May 15: https://join.capitalofdemocracy.eu/europeanspod


    FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT HERE: https://europeanspodcast.com/episodes/eurovision-vs-the-champions-league


    The Eurovision vs. Champions League debate was part of a special event for Europe Day hosted by the European Cultural Foundation. You can find out more about this year's celebrations at europeday.eu.


    This week's Isolation Inspiration: 'King Charles III's Secret Kingdom' and 'If Found'. You can find the article Katy mentioned on the Flamme awards here in the Guardian, and the ECF's Radio Europe Day playlist here on Spotify.

    00:22 Beyoncé in the Brussels bubble

    03:49 Bad Week: A €300m pensions black hole

    13:25 Good Week: France's first rap awards

    18:39 Help us out by joining the European Capital of Democracy Jury!

    20:23 The ultimate debate: Eurovision vs The Champions League

    37:46 Isolation Inspiration: 'King Charles III's Secret Kingdom' and 'If Found'

    40:54 Happy Ending: Aurimas Valujavičius's epic journey


    Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at ⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠ (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by ⁠leaving us a review⁠ or giving us five stars on Spotify.


    Producer: Katy Lee

    Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak

    Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina

    Twitter | Instagram | hello@europeanspodcast.com

    Brussels, that well-known comedy goldmine May 04, 2023
    Show notes

    The EU is a lot of things. But is it funny? And would Europe be a better place if we *could* find it funny? This week we're talking to Lise Witteman, one of the co-founders of live comedy show The Schuman Show, about finding humour in the Brussels machine. We're also talking about Pope Francis' face-off with Viktor Orbán and the Italian tourism campaign that spawned a thousand memes.


    Do you live in Europe, and do you enjoy this podcast? If so, you can celebrate democracy and fund our show at the same time, by signing up to join the Capital of European Democracy jury. It only takes a few clicks and it's a huge help to us! Sign up here: https://join.capitalofdemocracy.eu/europeanspod


    FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT HERE: ⁠https://europeanspodcast.com/episodes/brussels-that-well-known-comedy-goldmine⁠


    You can find out more about the Schuman Show at https://www.schumanshow.eu.


    The final visual version of the episodes in our series This Is What A Generation Sounds Like, produced by our friends at Are We Europe, can be found here.


    This week's Isolation Inspiration: The Allusionist's Eurovision episodes and 'The Curious Case of Columbo's Message to Romania'


    00:22 King's Day and erotic fiction penned by a finance minister

    03:53 Good Week: The Pope v Viktor Orbán

    11:44 Bad Week: Open to Meraviglia!

    18:12 Help us out by joining the European Capital of Democracy Jury!

    20:26 Interview: Lise Witteman on making the EU funny

    31:58 Isolation Inspiration: The Allusionist's Eurovision episodes and 'The Curious Case of Columbo's Message to Romania'

    35:53 Happy Ending: Gamefy The Dam Removal

    Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at ⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠ (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by ⁠leaving us a review⁠ or giving us five stars on Spotify.

    Producers: Katy Lee and Wojciech Oleksiak

    Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak

    Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina

    Twitter | Instagram | hello@europeanspodcast.com

    How racial bias is messing with DNA research Apr 20, 2023
    Show notes

    Mapping our genes has already allowed humanity to make huge strides in medicine. But the vast majority of the genomes we’ve decoded are those of people of white European heritage. Why is that a problem, and how do we fix it? This week we talk to the Nigerian geneticist Segun Fatumo about fixing the genome gap. We’re also talking about Andalucía’s bid to protect flamenco, and why Europe’s most powerful media mogul is in hot water.


    Segun is an associate professor of genetic epidemiology and bioinformatics at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. He tweets @SFatumo.


    You can find a video of flamenco performers celebrating Andalucía’s new law here, and watch the latest visual podcast in our series with Are We Europe, 'Andrea', here. We are delighted that the visual version of an earlier episode of This Is What A Generation Sounds Like, 'Mohamed', has been nominated for the CIVIS Prize! Watch it here.


    This week's Isolation Inspiration: this interview on the European Space Agency's Jupiter mission; How To Sell Drugs Online (Fast); World Leader or My Friend's Dad? and Luis Sal's Parisian croissant review.

    Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at ⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠ (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by ⁠leaving us a review⁠ or giving us five stars on Spotify.


    FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT HERE: https://europeanspodcast.com/episodes/how-racial-bias-is-messing-with-dna-research


    00:22 Make Europe Digestible Again

    02:23 A Good Week for protecting flamenco?

    09:22 A Bad Week for Axel Springer's CEO

    19:30 Interview: Segun Fatumo on the European bias of genomic studies

    30:24 Isolation Inspiration: Juice, 'How to Sell Drugs Online (Fast)', World Leader or My Friend's Dad, croissant reviews

    34:59 Happy Ending: 500 days of reading and knitting (in a pitch-black cave)



    Producers: Katy Lee and Wojciech Oleksiak

    Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak

    Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina

    Twitter | Instagram | hello@europeanspodcast.com

    Libraries: the safest spaces we have? Apr 13, 2023
    Show notes

    What comes to mind when you imagine a library? Rows of books, probably. But across the continent, libraries are transforming into places that serve communities in all sorts of other ways. This week we hear from two very different libraries about how they're doing just that: Bojana Grujic of the Novi Sad City Library in Serbia and Myrto Tsilimpounidi from the Feminist Library at the Feminist Autonomous Centre in Athens. We're also talking about the fallout from Macron's trip to China, the international fight against Hungary's homophobic law, and the hallucinogenic adventures of early Europeans.

    Bojana and Myrto's libraries are taking part in the European Cultural Foundation's Europe Challenge. The hunt for new participants begins soon; keep an eye on the ECF's website for updates, or subscribe to their newsletter.

    This week's Isolation Inspiration: Birdsbesafe cat collars, available via the Royal Belgian League for the Protection of Birds, and 'The Shadow King' by Maaza Mengiste. Bonus: Katy's amazing Notion template.

    Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at ⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠ (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by ⁠leaving us a review⁠ or giving us five stars on Spotify.

    FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT HERE: https://europeanspodcast.com/episodes/libraries-the-safest-spaces-we-have

    00:22 No Easter eggs for Dominic

    02:43 Messy / Bad Week: Macron and von der Leyen's trip to China

    14:47 Good Week: The fight against Hungary's anti-LGBTQ law

    23:06 Interview: Bojana Grujic and Myrto Tsilimpounidi on the reinvention of Europe's libraries

    35:51 Isolation Inspiration: Birdsbesafe cat collars and 'The Shadow King' by Maaza Mengiste

    40:59 Happy Ending: Early Europeans' psychedelic dabbling


    Producers: Katy Lee and Wojciech Oleksiak

    Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak

    Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina

    Twitter | Instagram | hello@europeanspodcast.com

    The great investment greenwash Apr 06, 2023
    Show notes

    Trillions of euros — trillions! — are currently invested in 'sustainable' investment funds across Europe. But how green really are these funds? This week we ring up El País journalist Daniele Grasso, part of the international team of reporters behind the Great Green Investment Investigation, to find out. We're also talking about Sanna Marin's defeat, Italy's move to ban ChatGPT, and courgette flowers.

    You can find Follow The Money's investigation on green investigation funds here, with links to reporting from Daniele and the rest of the team at the bottom of the page. The TechCrunch piece on the ramifications of Italy's ChatGPT ruling can be found here.

    This week's Isolation Inspiration: courgette flowers with garlic butter and oats; 99% Invisible - The Panopticon Effect.


    Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at patreon.com/europeanspodcast (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by leaving us a review or giving us five stars on Spotify.


    00:22 British lads and the correct way to enjoy a marathon

    04:21 Bad Week: Sanna Marin

    09:55 Good Week: Italy vs ChatGPT

    20:28 Interview: Daniele Grasso on Europe's not-so-green investment funds

    32:19 Isolation Inspiration: Courgette flowers and 99% Invisible: The Panopticon Effect

    35:31 Happy Ending: Congratulations, Ryyan!



    Producers: Katy Lee and Wojciech Oleksiak

    Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak

    Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina

    Twitter | Instagram | hello@europeanspodcast.com


    Suspicion machines and combustion engines Mar 30, 2023
    Show notes

    If you've claimed welfare benefits in Europe lately, there's a decent chance that authorities have used an algorithm to assess whether you might be trying to scam the system. The problem? All kinds of discrimination are baked into these calculations. This week we speak to Gabriel Geiger, one of the journalists behind an international investigation into these ‘suspicion machines’. We’re also looking back at a week of highs and lows for Europe’s climate policy, and celebrating Pompeii’s fluffy new recruits.

    You can find the various pieces published as part of Lighthouse Reports’ ‘suspicion machines’ investigation here and follow Gabriel on Twitter here.

    The Guardian graphic that Dominic mentioned, explaining why it’s so hard to power ships with electricity, can be found here.

    This week’s Isolation Inspiration: 'Lessons' by Ian McEwan, Traute Lafrenz's obituary, and 'A Brief History of Everyone Who Ever Lived' by Adam Rutherford.


    Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at patreon.com/europeanspodcast (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by leaving us a review or giving us five stars on Spotify. 00:22 The highs and lows of modern technology
    02:52 Good week: Europe's maritime fuel deal
    10:45 Bad week: The great combustion engine flop
    19:33 Interview: Gabriel Geiger on Europe's suspicion machines
    36:11 Isolation Inspiration: 'Lessons' by Ian McEwan, Traute Lafrenz's obituary, and 'A Brief History of Everyone Who Ever Lived'
    40:05 Happy Ending: Pompeii's fluffy new recruits

    Producer: Katy Lee

    Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak

    Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina

    Twitter | Instagram | hello@europeanspodcast.com


    Why would you flood a forest? Mar 23, 2023
    Show notes

    Last year, conservationists deliberately flooded a Slovakian forest. Why would you do such a thing? This week we ring up the co-founder of one of the organisations behind the project, Duarte de Zoeten of Mossy Earth, to find out. We're also talking about Italy's rainbow families, a kind-of-sort-of deal between Kosovo and Serbia, and Europe's first wild river national park.

    You can find Mossy Earth's YouTube channel here and their latest video about the Danube project here. Find out more about their Slovakian partners, Broz, here.

    This week's Isolation Inspiration: Vrij Spel (NPO) - Arnout, Dominic, Felix & Timo vs. Purcell; Stanley Tucci - Searching for Italy.

    Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at patreon.com/europeanspodcast (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by leaving us a review or giving us five stars on Spotify.


    00:22 Rats and Covid
    03:12 Bad week: Milan's rainbow families
    09:39 Good week (ish): Serbia and Kosovo
    19:03 Interview: Duarte de Zoeten on flooding a Slovakian forest
    32:05 Isolation Inspiration: Arnout, Dominic, Felix & Timo vs. Purcell, and 'Searching for Italy'
    37:45 Happy Ending: Europe's first wild river national park

    Producer: Katy Lee

    Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak

    Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina

    Twitter | Instagram | hello@europeanspodcast.com

    What is Putin up to in Moldova? Mar 09, 2023
    Show notes

    There've been a bunch of worrying reports from Moldova in recent weeks, from claims that Russia is fuelling street protests to fears of a coup d'etat. What exactly is going on, and what does Moscow have to do with it? This week we speak to Ivana Stradner, a specialist in Russian information warfare, to try to get to grips with Putin's strategy in the wider region. We're also talking about a teenager who may or may not have set up a non-existent airline, and what makes Swiss chocolate Swiss.

    Ivana is a special correspondent at the Kyiv Post and a research fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. You can follow her on Twitter here.

    Read more about the strangest story in German aviation here on One Mile At A Time.

    This week's Isolation Inspiration: Tár, 'The Instrumentalist' by Zadie Smith, Aftersun, and Rádio Olisipo.

    Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at patreon.com/europeanspodcast (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by leaving us a review or giving us five stars on Spotify.

    00:22 Viral cucumbers
    03:13 Bad week: The teenager behind Germany's non-existent airline
    09:48 Good week: Protecting Brand Switzerland (aka 'let's talk about Toblerones')
    19:10 Interview: Ivana Stradner on Russian information warfare in Moldova and beyond
    33:24 Isolation Inspiration: Tár, 'The Instrumentalist' by Zadie Smith, Aftersun, and Rádio Olisipo
    38:08 Happy Ending: The opposite of burgling


    Producers: Katy Lee and Wojciech Oleksiak

    Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak

    Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina

    Twitter | Instagram | hello@europeanspodcast.com


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