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    The Engineering Leadership Podcast

    We share the most critical perspectives, habits & examples of great software engineering leaders to help evolve leadership in the tech industry.

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    Bridging the Gender Gap with Christina Wick #41 May 18, 2021
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    We have a conversation with Christina Wick, CTO @ Flowcode, on the current state of the gender gap in tech and what we can do as engineering leaders to actively bridge that gap. We cover stories of the historical impact of women in tech as well as what you can do to remove bias in interviews, performance reviews and feedback. Plus what you can do to intervene when you observe bias happening.

    "The first time I heard someone talking about how "women should seek executive sponsorship" I got really annoyed... The term executive sponsor in project management usually means the C-level executive that sponsors or is responsible for the project. So like, why do women need an executive sponsor? I'm not some project! But then I thought about it... And men sponsor men all the time! We just don't label it that."

    ABOUT CHRISTINA WICK

    Christina was previously VP of Engineering at Harry’s, a successful next-generation CPG company. Before Harry’s, Christina’s roles have ranged from running Product, Design and Engineering at Venmo, to defining strategies and building services in the mobile and devices space at Amazon, to AOL where she started as a Software Engineer and rose to the level of Sr. Technical Director responsible for over 50 consumer-facing mobile apps and websites and where she received an Apple Design Award for the Best iPhone Entertainment Application, AOL Radio, in June 2008.

    Christina has a Bachelors in Computer Science, with minors in Mathematics and Psychology, and a Masters in Computer Science and Applications from VA Tech, with her area of concentration being Human-Computer Interaction."

    SHOWNOTES

    • The historical impact of women in programming & tech (2:03)
    • The current state of the gender gap in tech (7:04)
    • Three things you can do to start actively bridging the gender gap in tech (12:12)
    • Stop gender stereotypes & vague feedback (14:04)
    • Remove bias in performance reviews and interviews (17:01)
    • Intervene when observing bias (23:44)
    • Executive sponsorship (29:40)
    • Establish norms and make it okay to talk about bias (34:29)
    • The Impact of “throwing starfish in the ocean” (37:36)
    • Takeaways (38:39)

    Special thanks to our exclusive accessibility partner Mesmer! Mesmer's AI-bots automate mobile app accessibility testing to ensure your app is always accessible to everybody.

    To jump-start, your accessibility and inclusion initiative, visit mesmerhq.com/ELC

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    Unlock Developer Productivity AND Happiness with Allan Leinwand #40 May 11, 2021
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    Allan Leinwand, SVP of Engineering @ Slack shares his core philosophy & approach to creating developer productivity AND happiness! You’ll learn how Allan combines what developers want most + metrics, & analysis of the dev pipeline to optimize productivity. Allan covers how to translate those principles to remote/hybrid work and how to tell (and what to do...) if your dev teams are unhappy.

    "I generally say developers want to do three things... They want to solve hard problems at scale. They want to see that hard problem when they solve it... get put to use! The third thing that I think, honestly, is they just don't want to work with jerks. I think if you master those three things then you end up with a very happy and productive development team."

    ALLAN LEINWAND SVP ENGINEERING @ SLACK

    Prior to leading engineering & operations at Slack, Allan was Chief Technology Officer at ServiceNow, where he was responsible for overseeing all technical aspects and strategy. He has co-founded and held senior leadership positions at multiple companies and was a venture capital investor for seven years. He founded Vyatta (acquired by Brocade), the open-source networking company, and co-authored “Cisco Router Configuration” and “Network Management: A Practical Perspective” and has been granted a patent in the field of data routing.

    Leinwand previously served as an adjunct professor at the University of California, Berkeley where he taught on the subjects of computer networks, network management, and network design. He holds a BS in Computer Science from the University of Colorado at Boulder.

    SHOWNOTES

    • Your team is more than the metrics! (2:19)
    • The cyclical pattern & lifecycle of developer productivity (4:05)
    • Allan’s essential components to developer productivity (7:48)
    • How to account for people behind the metrics (12:12)
    • The goal is not the metrics! The goal is to understand developer workflow! (17:40)
    • How to know if your dev teams are happy (26:49)
    • What to do if developer productivity goes up, but dev happiness goes down… (30:55)
    • Staying present & how to context switch effectively (34:32)
    • How to identify metrics serving the wrong purpose or incentivizing the wrong behavior (38:12)
    • How Allan’s principles on dev happiness & productivity translate to remote & hybrid work (39:29)
    • Takeaways (42:46)

    Special thanks to our exclusive accessibility partner Mesmer! Mesmer's AI-bots automate mobile app accessibility testing to ensure your app is always accessible to everybody.

    To jump-start, your accessibility and inclusion initiative, visit mesmerhq.com/ELC

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    Get Your Career Unstuck with Quentin Clark #39 May 04, 2021
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    Quentin Clark, Managing Director @ General Catalyst shares how to get your career unstuck at different scales & stages! You’ll learn different frameworks you can use to benchmark your growth and identify where you might be stuck. Plus different approaches you can take to get your company and the people you lead, unstuck at scale!

    "The specifics of the framework are not as important as having one at all. Create some ruler... Like if you're a snail and you're trying to inch your way towards the head of lettuce, and you're trying to measure whether or not you're making progress every day... It doesn't actually matter whether or not you're using an imperial tape measure with inches or the metric system and a yardstick...

    You can make up your own ruler! As long as that ruler is consistently being used over and over again. This is why I say it's important for people to have A framework... not necessarily any one framework. And that they come back to it.”

    QUENTIN CLARK, MANAGING DIRECTOR @ GENERAL CATALYST

    Quentin is a product and systems technical leader with broad experience in the enterprise space. Incepted, built, and delivered successful products over many years - from servers to SaaS platforms and applications. He will be joining General Catalyst in January as a managing director.

    Prior to embarking on a career in investing, Quentin was the CTO at Dropbox, where he led all of engineering, product, design, and growth. He worked with them through its IPO, its pivot to Dropbox Spaces, and drove the portfolio expansion starting with the acquisition of HelloSign.

    He was at Microsoft for 20 years, most of that time focused on innovation - creating new products and value. The last decade of his time at Microsoft, Quentin was responsible for the high-growth data platform business, including SQL Server. There he worked for Satya Nadella leading the whole data platform business into the cloud.

    After Microsoft, Quentin was at SAP for two years, first as CTO then as Chief Business Officer where he led strategy and product direction for the platform and ultimately for the whole company. Before joining Dropbox he spent a year angel investing and exploring the VC world.

    He currently serves on the boards of Coda, Highfive, and Minio, and has been investing and advising very early-stage companies.

    SHOWNOTES

    • What does it mean to get “unstuck?” (2:55)
    • How do you get unstuck? (5:32)
    • How to divide your time between growth, grunt work, & what you’re good at (7:06)
    • Where engineering leaders get stuck + how to benchmark your growth using the 6 areas of competency (10:42)
    • How to get people unstuck at scale (15:55)
    • Why it’s important to have a framework to benchmark your growth (21:22)
    • Quentin’s story of getting unstuck in his career (25:20)
    • “Give up” what got you stuck by changing your goals & intention (31:20)
    • How to get your company and culture unstuck (37:15)
    • Quentin’s podcast “Equivalent to Magic” (44:20)
    • Takeaways (45:58)

    Quentin's Podcast - Equivalent to Magic: https://spoti.fi/3ulOVwc

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    Align & Scale Engineering AND Product with Jeremy Henrickson #38 Apr 27, 2021
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    Jeremy Henrickson VP Engineering & Product @ Rippling shares how to align, lead and scale a combined engineering and product organization! You’ll learn about the common tension points while scaling, different ways to structure your org, when to combine your orgs vs. split, and how to realign your teams when expectations get out of sync. Plus how to build credibility with new teams and acquire product skills as an engineering leader!

    “When I have like a number of teams and each of them has like a product leader AND an engineering leader... the expectation that I set with them is like, "Look, you guys are gonna have different points of view. And that's okay. But when you come to me, you either need to one, have a really clear, shared point of view on something, because you've gone into this together and have thought it out. Or a clear point of disagreement, so that you know, we can tie break on, okay, which one of these is actually more important right now?"

    And either one of those is totally fine. But a shared understanding of the facts, a shared understanding of the trade-offs is sort of the floor that I draw on those conversations.”

    JEREMY HENRICKSON, VP PRODUCT & ENGINEERING @ RIPPLING

    Jeremy Henrickson is responsible for scaling a world-class engineering team across two continents. Previously as Chief Product Officer at Coinbase, he oversaw 5x growth of the product and engineering organization and transformed a scrappy startup into a global cryptocurrency platform with millions of users. He began his career at Apple in the 1990s and holds a BS and MS in Computer Science from Stanford. Jeremy enjoys playing board games and piano with his kids.

    SHOWNOTES

    • Jeremy’s experience scaling engineering and product at Coinbase (3:00)
    • How to bridge the gap between engineering and product (5:26)
    • How to think about hiring the right people for early and growth stages of a company (7:56)
    • Finding both true believers AND skills for scaling + navigating hiring doubt through the “crypto-winter” (9:37)
    • Common tension points while scaling engineering and product organizations (14:27)
    • How much technical detail and context should be shared between product and engineering? (19:00)
    • How to build trust and credibility when you’re leading a new team (21:11)
    • Dunbar’s number and the different phases of scaling a product and engineering organization (25:43)
    • Different ways to structure engineering and product organizations (29:20)
    • When You Should Combine Engineering and Product Orgs & Jeremys different approaches with Rippling, Coinbase & Guidewire (35:16)
    • What to do if you want to pursue a career in product AND eng leadership (40:13)
    • How to get engineering & product aligned when they have misaligned expectations (43:02)
    • Where to begin if you’re an engineering leader who just took over product manager responsibilities (45:21)
    • Takeaways (46:29)

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    Navigate Career Pivots with John Kim #37 Apr 20, 2021
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    John Kim has had an unconventional career, pivoting from professional gamer to software developer, to serial entrepreneur. We discuss how to assess your career, make pivots, and balance your growth long term. John shares principles from complexity science to help you navigate unknowns, risks, & opportunities in your career. Plus other powerful frameworks to make better career decisions.

    "So if you're working at a bigger company, what you're really trying to optimize for is how quickly can you move up in turn terms of 'Abstraction Layer.' It's not about titles. It's about, can you actually understand the next layer of abstraction within the business.

    So if you're like an IC, what is the engineering manager's priority right now for your team? What is the, let's say a director of engineering's priority right now for the team?

    And if you actually start caring about those things, you'll be able to make a lot more faster progress."

    JOHN KIM, CO-FOUNDER & CEO @ SENDBIRD

    John S. Kim is the Co-founder and CEO of SendBird, the world's no.1 chat API. The platform currently serves over 100M monthly chat users across the world's leading companies such as Reddit, Delivery Hero, Yahoo!, Rakuten, Paytm, Accolade, Livongo, and DHL. John is a serial entrepreneur, engineer at heart, and an expert in the API economy and communications tech space. Little known fact about John is that he was Korea's no.1 pro-gamer for Unreal Tournament.

    SHOWNOTES

    • How John went from professional gamer to #1 chat API company @ Sendbird (2:47)
    • Creating vs. consuming & why John walked away from professional gaming (6:58)
    • John’s early career pivots: from software engineer to social gaming & Y Combinator (9:08)
    • How to apply the complexity science principles of “Convergence” & “Divergence” to your career decisions (11:17)
    • Navigating “Abstraction Layers” & why you need to invest time to build “social capital” in your career (15:31)
    • The “Human Capital” Framework & balancing the skills you accumulate throughout your career (19:04)
    • Building emotional capital, training for cognitive empathy, & the tradeoffs of agreeableness (20:41)
    • How to manage expectations & communicate with stakeholders when you need to pivot (27:34)
    • How John applied these principles to make career decisions and pivot his company (30:23)
    • How to pick careers aligned with your happiness and motivation (37:10)
    • How to pivot your career using the “2PM” framework (people, product, market, money) (39:59)
    • Future founders: Why you’ll be happier making 10 year career decisions & quick pivots (44:04)
    • Takeaways (46:23)

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    Superpowers, Psychological Safety & Empowering Your Team with Tia Caldwell #36 Apr 13, 2021
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    Tia Caldwell, former Director of Engineering @ Slack, shares different frameworks she’s used to motivate teams and unlock their superpowers! We cover methods to identify, maximize, & balance strengths on your team, how to shift your team’s mindset from drama to EMPOWERED so they can better confront adversity & challenges. Plus we share the explicit conversations you should be having in your first 1:1s to create greater psychological safety!

    “You don't need to have this manager game face. I think there's this perception that when you're a manager, you're supposed to be the person who knows the answers to everything… And while a part of the execution piece is really necessary with being an effective manager, I think the other part is relationship building. You need to invest the time in understanding how people work. Because people will be more open and honest with you, it'll help out with retention for your team and overall happiness. But if you don't… it's not going to go well because you'll be treating people as resources and not humans.”

    TIA CALDWELL, FORMER DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING @ SLACK

    Tia led the Monetization Team at Slack, a leading global collaboration hub that makes people’s working lives simpler, more pleasant and more productive. Over the past 15 years, she has led and managed engineering teams at Netflix and Microsoft, covering a breadth of projects such as Xbox, Office 365 and Streaming Content Delivery.

    She serves as a facilitator in /dev/color and is the co-founder of Color Code (https://www.colorcode.org/), a scholarship fund dedicated to future leaders of color in tech. Tia studied computer science at Xavier University of Louisiana and spent her undergraduate years doing research for the Missile Defense Agency.

    SHOWNOTES

    • How do you motivate your team? Find their Superpower! (3:05)
    • Tia’s Superpowers (8:02)
    • Knowing your superpowers maximizes strengths & protects against your weaknesses (10:09)
    • How superpower awareness & common language changes how you operate, make decisions, & structure teams (12:31)
    • Why you should balance your team’s superpowers to increase collaboration and be more effective (17:06)
    • “The Drama Triangle” (20:51)
    • How to recognize what role you’re playing in “The Drama Triangle” (28:30)
    • Shift your team’s mindset with “The Empowerment Triangle” (32:45)
    • How to shift someone from “Victim” to “Creator” or from “Villain” to “Challenger” (34:27)
    • Personal operating manuals & having explicit conversations to get the best from your team (39:06)
    • “What’s your grumpiness level?” & other ways to create psychological safety in your 1:1’s (41:37)
    • How to prompt self-reflection and identify how your team wants recognition & feedback (46:03)
    • Why relationships & removing the “manager game face” are your most effective tool (49:20)
    • Takeaways (50:52)

    Find all the links & resources shared by Tia HERE: https://sfelc.com/podcasts/superpowers-psychological-safety-and-empowering-your-team-tia-caldwell

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    Parallel Engineering Paths, Culture Building & Co-Founding (part 2) with Viraj Mody & Tom Kleinpeter #35 Apr 06, 2021
    Show notes

    We deconstruct two distinct career paths in engineering & leadership, and a co-founder relationship 15 years in the making. In part 2, Tom & Viraj share why they decided to start a company together, how they assess start-up opportunities, early company building & values-defining conversations, and other strong opinions on how they’re creating the engineering culture and execution at Common Room.

    VIRAJ MODY, CO-FOUNDER & CTO @ COMMON ROOM

    Viraj led engineering organizations at Convoy and Dropbox, helping both companies scale their teams and products. Viraj was also a founding engineer at Audiogalaxy, where he worked alongside Tom, which was acquired by Dropbox.

    TOM KLEINPETER, CO-FOUNDER & CHIEF ARCHITECT @ COMMON ROOM

    Tom was a Principal Engineer at Dropbox, and before that the CTO at Audiogalaxy and FolderShare, startups which sold to Dropbox and Microsoft, respectively. He’s also the co-host of The Downtime Project - https://downtimeproject.com/ a podcast that helps engineers learn from the Internet’s most notable outages.

    SHOWNOTES

    • Tom’s career path - from engineering leader to principal engineer (4:07)
    • Viraj’s career path to become an engineering leader (8:54)
    • How to reduce mental overhead by connecting with your team and leveraging candor & authenticity (14:27)
    • How to shape the culture and execution of an engineering org at a new company (17:46)
    • Early company building & values-defining conversations (22:33)
    • How they decided to start a company together & Tom’s framework to assess joining a startup (28:27)
    • Tom & Viraj’s strong opinions on building engineering organizations and culture (34:34)
    • What Tom & Viraj admire most about working with each other (40:33)
    • Takeaways (43:01)

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    Parallel Engineering Paths, Culture Building & Co-Founding (part 1) with Viraj Mody & Tom Kleinpeter #34 Mar 30, 2021
    Show notes

    We deconstruct two distinct career paths in engineering & leadership and a co-founder relationship 15 years in the making! Tom & Viraj share formative startup experiences that shaped their careers as a Principal Engineer & Eng Leader. Plus insights shaping their new company on assessing risk, dealing with open-ended problems, being decisive, & removing non-coding time for engineers

    VIRAJ MODY, CO-FOUNDER & CTO @ COMMON ROOM

    Viraj led engineering organizations at Convoy and Dropbox, helping both companies scale their teams and products. Viraj was also a founding engineer at Audiogalaxy, where he worked alongside Tom, which was acquired by Dropbox.

    TOM KLEINPETER, CO-FOUNDER & CHIEF ARCHITECT @ COMMON ROOM

    Tom was a Principal Engineer at Dropbox, and before that the CTO at Audiogalaxy and FolderShare, startups which sold to Dropbox and Microsoft, respectively. He’s also the co-host of The Downtime Project - https://downtimeproject.com/ a podcast that helps engineers learn from the Internet’s most notable outages.

    SHOWNOTES

    • The Beginning - How Tom & Viraj first met over 15 years ago (3:48)
    • The Early Days - Microsoft, Tom’s start-up jump to Audiogalaxy, and why Viraj followed (8:55)
    • Lessons in hiring and assessing risk at an early stage startup (15:07)
    • ”Yo, I don’t even know how to use a Mac…” + other strong opinions & mantras from their early start up experience (24:07)
    • What happens when you remove decision-making delays & non-coding time from an engineer’s schedule (29:03)
    • What principal IC’s & engineering leaders have in common... “Your job is to be decisive!” (34:08)
    • Takeaways (39:17)

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    Build Your Personal Board of Directors with Harpaul Sambhi Founder & CEO @ Magical #33 Mar 23, 2021
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    Harpaul Sambhi, Founder & CEO @ Magical reveals the tools he uses to accelerate his personal and professional growth. You’ll learn how to engineer successful outcomes with your goals through accountability mechanisms, how to build a personal board of directors or leverage friendly competitions like the “master of the universe award” to learn, pivot, & grow faster.

    "When we do our goal setting, especially if you're trying to compete with someone... is to do the personal side just as much as the professional side. And you get that layer of intimacy that is often not necessarily shown in these types of meetings. And as a result, they become an exceptionally vital part of your life.”

    HARPAUL SAMBHI, FOUNDER & CEO @ MAGICAL

    Harpaul Sambhi is a serial entrepreneur and life optimizer. His current company Magical is reinventing copy and paste, automating mundane, soul-crushing tasks.He previously sold his company, Careerify, to LinkedIn in 2015 and joined the product management team.

    SHOWNOTES

    • The origin story of Harpaul’s hunger for personal growth (2:47)
    • Introducing the “Personal Board of Directors” as a tool to accelerate your personal & professional growth (4:25)
    • Accountability as a mechanism to achieve your goals (7:38)
    • How a personal board of directors works and impacts your thought process (10:07)
    • How to identify your gaps and leverage your personal board of directors (14:31)
    • Increase the richness of your discussion and reduce “off the cuff thinking” with “prep notes (20:47)
    • How to curate and build your personal board of directors (25:33)
    • Where to start building your personal board of directors (33:32)
    • How to use “friendly competitions” like the “Master of the Universe Award” to accelerate your growth (37:14)
    • Focus on your goal’s inputs vs. outputs (43:22)
    • How the “Master of the Universe Award” impacts your relationships (45:34
    • Takeaways (48:50)


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    Ask Powerful Questions with Alexis Rask, Executive Coach & Partner @ Sweat Equity Ventures #32 Mar 16, 2021
    Show notes

    Alexis Rask, Executive Coach & Partner @ Sweat Equity Ventures shares how to ask powerful questions. You’ll hear simple tactical ways to increase the power of your questions, what the most powerful question is, common failure modes of open-ended questions, how to get over your fear of silence, plus stories of the most powerful questions we’ve ever been asked.

    "When I say a powerful question, I'm saying 'What's the really right question, for this right moment, that is going to TRULY unlock someone's thinking, in a way that gets at new information.'"

    ALEXIS RASK, EXECUTIVE COACH & PARTNER @ SWEAT EQUITY VENTURES

    Named 40 under 40 by Silicon Valley Business Journal, Alexis is an experienced business operator turned Executive Coach to Silicon Valley's top founders and VCs. Prior to founding her coaching firm, Future Consulting, Alexis founded the Marketing Solutions team at LinkedIn in 2006. She opened offices, hired out the sales and customer success teams, and developed the go-to-market plans. She has also served as COO/CRO at Shopkick which sold for $250million in 2014. She is also a faculty member of UC Berkeley's Executive Coaching Institute.

    SHOWNOTES

    • What’s the most powerful question you’ve ever been asked? (4:40)
    • Failure-modes of open-ended questions & how to use powerful questions to get to “the heart of the matter” (11:54)
    • The impact of a more powerful question (18:55)
    • Emotional intelligence & how to get the best from people (25:40)
    • Why “WHY” is the perfect follow up question (31:24)
    • How to use powerful questions in your 1 on 1’s (38:49)
    • How to get over the fear of silence… (41:40)
    • Identify opportunities to ask more powerful questions with the “mental review” (48:18)
    • Takeaways (54:19)

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