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    Christianity

    The Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast

    Many pastors and church leaders today feel overwhelmed, exhausted, and frustrated that their churches don’t seem to be making mature disciples. The Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast explores the paradigms and practices leaders need to transform their church culture and multiply deeply changed disciples.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Why Affliction is How God Develops True Spiritual Leaders May 02, 2023
    Show notes

    Affliction. It's a topic that nobody wants to talk about (including me).

    But as it relates to TRUE LEADERSHIP, it is a costly mistake to avoid our afflictions. Why? Because this is how God matures us into spiritual mothers and fathers of the faith.

    By "affliction," I'm referring to any kind of hurt, loss, betrayal, broken relationship, abandonment, or disorienting circumstance. While these are obviously things we don't want, they are also unavoidable.
    Many of us run from our afflictions, seeing them as obstacles to our life and leadership. We distract, jump over, sidestep, and ignore. But Jesus called us to take up our cross and follow him. And when you're on the cross, you can't just jump off!
    The good news is that God doesn't abandon us in our hardships. In fact – if we're willing to PAY ATTENTION, God uses our afflictions to develop us into the type of leaders worth following.
    Take a listen to today's podcast episode.

    If you're ready to go deeper with the ideas shared on this podcast, the School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership is your next step. It's where leaders slow down, do the inner work, and come out equipped to lead from health instead of hurry. Learn more and apply for the upcoming Fall semester at emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool.


    Learn more about the 2026 FALL SEMESTER School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool/



    Spaciousness: Avoiding the Traps that Steal Our Margin Apr 18, 2023
    Show notes

    One of the greatest threats to leading with joy is giving into the temptation of overcommitment.
    When our lives are crowded, cluttered, and cramped, it is difficult to hear God and live in loving union with Him. The irony is, we can "fit in" regular practices of Sabbath and silence while still being driven by an overscheduled life.
    But how do we resist this temptation?

    Silence, solitude, and sabbath must become our practices.
    AND spaciousness must become our mindset.

    In order to live spacious lives, we must avoid the critical traps that keep us settling for an overcommitted life.

    • What would it feel like to live with breathing room?
    • How would it feel to limit your "Yes" and claim more margin in your schedule?
    • What if you could build in time for extended thinking, praying, and being?


    On today's podcast, I identify several traps that keep you from the gift of spaciousness and offer wisdom that will help you live with a renewed sense of joy.

    If you're ready to go deeper with the ideas shared on this podcast, the School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership is your next step. It's where leaders slow down, do the inner work, and come out equipped to lead from health instead of hurry. Learn more and apply for the upcoming Fall semester at emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool.


    Learn more about the 2026 FALL SEMESTER School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool/



    The Real Reason You Can't Stop Overcommitting (and what to do about it) Apr 04, 2023
    Show notes

    Many leaders today "know" the importance of a slowed-down spirituality.
    So why do so many continue to feel overloaded and over scheduled, often working 3 jobs, taking on new side hustles, and remain driven by the fear of missing out? Why can't we stop overcommitting?

    Listen, I know this struggle firsthand. And I've found that it goes deeper than knowing intellectually and theologically the right thing to do.

    On today's podcast, I tackle this question head-on in two parts:
    1. How do you break free from the roots of overcommitment inside yourself?
    2. How do you help others break free from overcommitment as you lead them?
    This is an important one. I pray that as you listen, you begin to experience a newfound freedom in Christ.
    If you're ready to go deeper with the ideas shared on this podcast, the School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership is your next step. It's where leaders slow down, do the inner work, and come out equipped to lead from health instead of hurry. Learn more and apply for the upcoming Fall semester at emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool.


    Learn more about the 2026 FALL SEMESTER School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool/



    3 Counterfeits of Emotionally Healthy Spirituality Mar 21, 2023
    Show notes

    Recently we crossed an unbelievable threshold with the Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast with over 10 million lifetime podcast downloads. I couldn't be more surprised, humbled, and thankful for this milestone moment.
    I say "surprised" because back in 1996, when we first started, the term "emotional health" was considered heretical in much of the church!
    Now 25 years later, we can see that the cultural landscape has changed dramatically. Not only is emotional health received, but in many ways, it is now considered a promotional buzzword.
    In today's podcast, I share my observations of what I consider 3 counterfeit versions of emotional health that we settle for, but then cast a vision for an authentic life with God.

    If you're ready to go deeper with the ideas shared on this podcast, the School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership is your next step. It's where leaders slow down, do the inner work, and come out equipped to lead from health instead of hurry. Learn more and apply for the upcoming Fall semester at emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool.


    Learn more about the 2026 FALL SEMESTER School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool/



    What Would I Say to My 25, 35, 45-Year-Old Self? Mar 07, 2023
    Show notes

    I was recently asked by someone...
    "Pete, if you could go back and give yourself advice in the different seasons of life and ministry, what would you say?"
    The truth is – every decade has its own unique invitations. As I reflected, I realized that I would say something slightly different to myself at 25, 35, 45, and even 55.
    Today on the podcast, I share with you some fresh insights as I look back on my own journey and development. While my journey is different than yours, I'm hoping you'll be able to learn from my lessons - both the good and the bad!

    If you're ready to go deeper with the ideas shared on this podcast, the School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership is your next step. It's where leaders slow down, do the inner work, and come out equipped to lead from health instead of hurry. Learn more and apply for the upcoming Fall semester at emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool.


    Learn more about the 2026 FALL SEMESTER School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool/



    Why Skimming Over Your Losses Kills Discipleship Feb 21, 2023
    Show notes Many of us have come to believe that the Christian life is synonymous with constant happiness. We think we're on the right track if the trajectory of our lives is "up and to the right" - always improving, always leveling up.
    But this way of thinking leaves little room for grief and sadness. When we experience real loss, we see it as an abnormal alien invasion, not as a divine invitation.
    And yet, Jesus shows us that to welcome and hold sorrow before God is central to our leadership and discipleship.
    In today's podcast episode, I share the importance of finding the treasure buried in grief and loss, and how we can train other leaders to do the same.
    I encourage you to watch our full training video online in our Leader's Training Vault. It's completely free and only takes one minute to register.
    For now, you can listen to today's episode here...
    If you're ready to go deeper with the ideas shared on this podcast, the School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership is your next step. It's where leaders slow down, do the inner work, and come out equipped to lead from health instead of hurry. Learn more and apply for the upcoming Fall semester at emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool.


    Learn more about the 2026 FALL SEMESTER School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool/



    The Most Powerful Gift Leaders Can Give Feb 07, 2023
    Show notes

    I was 19 when I came to Christ and started my training as a Christian leader.
    As a young leader, I was taught many valuable things. But nobody told me about the most powerful gift leaders can bring to those they lead.

    But I've learned (through my own failures) that the greatest gift leaders can actually give is becoming an "incarnational presence" – being DEEPLY PRESENT with people like Jesus.
    In today's podcast episode, we look at the norm for most churches and leaders, but then we'll explore the beauty of what can happen in our church cultures when we learn to lead in this way.

    I encourage you to watch our full training video online in our Leader's Training Vault. It's completely free and only takes one minute to register.
    For now, you can listen to today's episode here...

    If you're ready to go deeper with the ideas shared on this podcast, the School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership is your next step. It's where leaders slow down, do the inner work, and come out equipped to lead from health instead of hurry. Learn more and apply for the upcoming Fall semester at emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool.


    Learn more about the 2026 FALL SEMESTER School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool/



    Coaching the Genogram: A Powerful Tool to Deeply Form Leaders Jan 24, 2023
    Show notes

    As a pastor or leader, your primary role is to develop and disciple others.

    More than simply "getting things done", we are called to prioritize the growth and maturity of the people and leaders around us. We do this by learning particular skills and tools with which we can coach our leaders, our team, and those in our ministry. One game-changing tool that I use to coach others is called the "Genogram".

    The genogram is a powerful visual map to document the history and dynamics of our family relationships and their impact on us, over three to four generations. In today's episode, I share the 6 stages I use to coach other leaders through the Genogram so that you can do the same.
    If you're ready to go deeper with the ideas shared on this podcast, the School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership is your next step. It's where leaders slow down, do the inner work, and come out equipped to lead from health instead of hurry. Learn more and apply for the upcoming Fall semester at emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool.


    Learn more about the 2026 FALL SEMESTER School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool/



    How the 3 Deadliest Leadership Temptations are God's Great Invitation Jan 10, 2023
    Show notes

    Not long ago I was spending time with some young pastors, hoping to learn how leaders today define ministry success. The word "influence" seemed to be a common theme.
    Many leaders obsess over growing their followers, gaining digital credibility, and creating captivating sound bites for social media. While there is nothing wrong with having a following, there exists a pressure and allure to making that the primary scorecard for ministry impact. This way of thinking only leads to destruction.
    In many ways, this is nothing new. The 3 deadly temptations that Jesus faced in the desert, are the exact temptations we face as leaders, no matter what generation you are from.

    If you're ready to go deeper with the ideas shared on this podcast, the School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership is your next step. It's where leaders slow down, do the inner work, and come out equipped to lead from health instead of hurry. Learn more and apply for the upcoming Fall semester at emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool.


    Learn more about the 2026 FALL SEMESTER School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool/



    A Radical Approach to Planning for the New Year Dec 22, 2022
    Show notes Does the end of the year feel like a complete whirlwind?
    For most pastors and leaders Christmas activities dominate the month of December and then we only get a week's break before launching into a new year!
    In January, pastors face the difficult task of vision-casting, goal-setting, and steering the direction of the church for the next 12 months.
    Too often, our planning is driven by:
    • Expectations from others (i.e. board, supervisors, people we serve)
    • Internal pressure to be a great leader or to create momentum.
    • The "shoulds" of everything that feels important. (i.e. "We should be doing more of this...")
    All of these things can feel like a tremendous weight, under which many pastors buckle over time.
    But planning doesn't have to feel this way.
    In today's episode, I want to show you a radical new approach to planning. I'll show you how I plan for the season ahead in a way that produces joy, not anxiety.
    If you're ready to go deeper with the ideas shared on this podcast, the School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership is your next step. It's where leaders slow down, do the inner work, and come out equipped to lead from health instead of hurry. Learn more and apply for the upcoming Fall semester at emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool.


    Learn more about the 2026 FALL SEMESTER School of Emotionally Healthy Leadership https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/leadershipschool/



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