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Lynn Murphy & Alnoor Ladha - Post-Capitalist Philanthropy
“Doing the decolonizing, deprogramming, deconditioning, unlearning work, as well as thinking non-laterally and moving the dominant ontology and dominant cosmology from this rationalist-separatist-materialist worldview to one that's more relational, more quantum, more queer, more based on interbeing, is going to open up vistas of possibility that we can't even imagine from our current vantage point.” -Alnoor Ladha“We’re looking at how do we liberate capital and alchemize wealth in service of life,if you understand the structure how capital markets function they are not in service to life, and they aren’t often looked at through a framework of liberation “-Lynne Murphy
In this episode, host Armando Davila interviews Lynn Murphy and Alnoor Ladha of Transition Resource Circle about our world’s necessary shift beyond late-stage capitalism. This vibrant and out-of-the-box conversation starts with exploring our current economy and why leaving the house of capitalist modernity over the next ten to twenty years is crucial. Then the fun really begins when Lynn and Alnoor Ladha paint a picture of how this shift might look and the tools they are using to catalyze this transition. This radical conversation will open your mind to new ideas and possibilities for shifting beyond capitalism and creating a sustainable future.
IN THIS EPISODE:
An introduction to Post-Capitalist Philanthropy
Lynn & Alnoor Ladha’s backgrounds and how they came to this work
The Transition Resource Circle
Why our current growth-based economy isn’t sustainable for the Earth
The impending collapse of late-stage capitalism
How to leave the house of capitalist modernity
The importance of creating more local resilience & self-reliance in communities
How doing inner work can open up unimaginable possibilities
Releasing resistance to letting go of certainty and comfort
Why the approach to using capital to build a post-capitalist infrastructure is so important
The 5 element mandala Lynn & Alnoor Ladha use as a tool for exploring transition pathways
The importance of gifting and redistributing wealth for decolonization and liberation
How to work with Lynn and Alnoor Ladha and their Transition Resource Circle
RELEVANT LINKS:
Transition Resource Circle: www.transitionresourcecircle.org,
Post Capitalist Philanthropy Book: https://www.postcapitalistphilanthropy.org/
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
“Restoration is not just about planting trees or about making an area look beautiful again. It's about recreating a social ecological system that is more resilient and is more aligned with natural processes.” -Robin Chazdon
This episode features legendary ecologist Robin Chazdon with hosts Armando Davila, Patrick Leung, & Pedro Ribeiro Piffer for an adventure through the world of assisted natural regeneration. Robin discusses active versus passive regeneration, how to increase the capacity of local communities to lead restoration, and the importance of honoring traditional knowledge. Robin then paints a vision of a fair trade carbon market, discusses biodiversity monitoring, and explores the challenges of involving corporations in restoration projects. This rich conversation ends on an inspirational note as Robin skillfully describes how we are all interconnected with each other and the natural world.
IN THIS EPISODE:
How Robin started her journey as an ecologist and how her work has evolved over her career
Her current projects including the UN’s Best Practices Task Force
An overview of assisted natural regeneration
Active regeneration vs. passive regeneration
How to support farmers in regenerating their land
Robin’s view on monoculture plantations
How to decide which restoration approach to use
The important social considerations of restoration projects
How to increase the capacity of local communities to lead restoration
The importance of honoring local and traditional knowledge
Robin’s vision of a fair trade carbon market
Biodiversity monitoring as a way to measure the effects of restoration projects
The dangers of viewing nature as a corporate asset
The importance of channeling funds through ground-based mechanisms
What it will take for corporations to change their practices towards greater sustainability
The importance of recognizing that we are all in this together
How our humanity is dependent on our relationship with the natural world
The importance of multi-disciplinary collaboration & infiltrating the corporate sector
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Robin’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-chazdon-96218a59/
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
Grant Wilson and Michelle Bender of Earth Law Center - Legal Rights of Nature
“How do you give nature a voice within carbon markets?” -Grant Wilson
Grant Wilson, Executive Director of Earth Law Center, & Michelle Bender, Ocean Campaigns Director of Earth Law Center, join hosts Armando Davila & Troy Carter for a discussion about the Rights of Nature Movement. After an overview of how this movement advocates for nature to have rights just as humans do, Grant and Michelle discuss traction that the movement is gaining in Ecuador and New Zealand and explore how this movement can be integrated with the carbon market’s financial approach to protect nature to the fullest extent possible. This deep conversation also includes a heart-centered discussion about how humanity, society, economics, and law are inseparable from nature and also explores the unique challenges of protecting the rights of our oceans. You’ll also learn more about the Earth Law Center and how you can get involved.
IN THIS EPISODE:
An overview of the rights of nature movement and Earth law
Rights of nature laws that are being enacted internationally
The articles of Ecuador’s rights of nature
An example of a successful lawsuit in the name of rights of nature
A journey into Ecuador’s Los Cedros cloud forest and how Earth law saved it from mining, setting a precedent for respecting the rights of nature
New Zealand’s journey of granting legal rights to its rivers
What rights of nature means in relation to indigenous worldviews
How the rights of nature movement can be integrated with the carbon market’s financial approach to protecting nature
Unique corporate structures where nature can be a shareholder or sit on a board of directors
How humanity, society, economics, and law are inseparable from nature
The dangers of viewing Earth as a machine and focusing on technological solutions for the climate crisis
How listeners can get involved in the rights of nature movement
Approaching decisions that may support human/societal development but may be harmful to nature (ie mining precious metals for technology)
How the rights of nature apply to oceans
How legal victories can change public opinion and vice versa
About the Earth Law Center
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Earth Law Center: https://www.earthlawcenter.org/
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
“We need all hands on deck in all areas, all sectors, and all approaches. So that means we need governments setting aggressive climate policy and regulation to control as far and fast as possible top-down, we need corporates and industry to do their part and do everything they can to decarbonize and squeeze out emissions…and then we also need market mechanisms like what Verra pioneers and helps manage that bring integrity and the ability for finance to flow to other activities that otherwise wouldn't be supported and are critical for us addressing the climate challenge.” -Toby Janson-Smith
David Antonioli, CEO at Verra, & Toby Jason-Smith, Chief Program Development & Innovation Officer at Verra, join hosts Armando Davila & Oliver Miltenberger for a rich discussion about carbon markets and the importance of standards and transparency. David and Toby begin by introducing us to Verra, a nonprofit organization setting the world’s leading standards for climate action and sustainable development, and continue on to discuss the past, present, and future of the carbon market and its role in addressing the climate crisis. They masterfully address questions, critiques, and challenges alive in the carbon market sector today and discuss what is needed for the carbon market to successfully play its part in creating a sustainable future for all.
IN THIS EPISODE:
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Verra: https://verra.org
Kasigau Project: https://www.innovationforum.co.uk/articles/the-kasigau-corridor-redd-project
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
“Nature will win in the end and balance will be reestablished. The question is how is it going to happen and if we're working in the direction of rebalancing things and doing it from the standpoint of minimizing the casualties and maximizing the opportunities of the survivors.” -Richard Heinberg
Richard Heinberg, author and Senior Fellow at Post Carbon Institute, joins hosts Patrick Leung and Armando Davila for a deep conversation on the importance of reducing energy consumption for humanity’s transition to a sustainable existence on Earth. Richard sheds light on the harm that energy consumption causes, the history behind it, and the factors making it difficult to reduce. The discussion then moves to practical ways to reduce energy consumption, countries that are doing so on a large scale, how nature is supporting us in this transition, and how we can work together with nature to create a beautiful and sustainable future.
IN THIS EPISODE:
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Richard’s Website: https://richardheinberg.com
Post Carbon Institute: https://www.postcarbon.org/
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
In this season 1 wrap-up episode, hosts Patrick, Troy, and Armando reflect on the first season of the Earthshot Podcast, including themes and insights that emerged, favorite moments with guests, and the evolution of the podcast, of Earthshot Labs, and of the state of the climate crisis. Stay tuned for Season 2, coming in 2023!
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Troy Carter’s LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/troyearthshot
Patrick Leung’s LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/puiwah
Armando Davila’s Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/armando-davila-49681716
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: littlewhale.bandcamp.com
“What keeps me up at night is that people would think that we can use natural climate solutions like reforestation instead of fossil fuel reductions, because it’s not an either/or, it’s a both/and.” -Susan Cook-Patton
Susan Cook-Patton, a senior scientist at the Nature Conservancy, joins hosts Patrick Leung and Armando Davila for a deep dive into the science behind carbon and nature-based climate solutions. Susan gives us an insider’s look into the world of scientific data, sharing practical insights and revealing the gaps that exist in climate research. She shares that recent studies paint a dire picture of our future if we don’t act fast (within the next decade) to change our destructive course, and yet also shares her “stubborn optimism” that we will pull through. This delightful and deep conversation is both intelligent and love-filled and is a must-listen for anyone interested in science, nature, and sustainability.
IN THIS EPISODE:
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
The Nature Conservancy: www.nature.org
Susan’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-cook-patton-ph-d-3904a448
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
“There is an abundance on this Earth and She was created with this idea of taking care of everything here. We're the ones that turned our backs to her and we have to figure out a way to get back and quickly.” - Corrina Gould
Corrina Gould, chair and spokesperson for the Confederated Villages of Lisjan, joins hosts Patrick Leung and Armando Davila in this episode for a deep conversation about rematriation and decolonization. Corrina begins by grounding us in the history of the Indigenous peoples of the so called Bay Area and then shares her inspiring journey of becoming an activist and leader in her community. Corrina’s grandmotherly embrace holds listeners with love as she takes us into the somber caverns of Indigenous genocide, climate crisis, and the violence our society faces today, while she similtenously paints a beautiful vision of what the future can be and lays out the work that is necessary to make it so.
IN THIS EPISODE:
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Sogorea Te’ Land Trust: https://sogoreate-landtrust.org
Songs by Kadoka: https://kadoka.bandcamp.com
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
“We are consciousness manifest, we are the planet watching itself, we are the universe watching itself, we are paying attention, we are stewards. We have the capacity to tip the scales so we really have to pay attention to which direction we’re tipping them.” -Maryanna Saenko
Maryanna Saenko joins hosts Troy Carter and Patrick Leung to discuss capitalism’s role in transitioning to a sustainable way of life upon our planet. As an early-stage venture capitalist, Maryanna shares her perspective on how investing in technology can help build a bridge from the structures that currently exist to the structures that we want to see in the world. The conversation also dives into Maryanna’s Ukrainian roots, the war in Ukraine, humanity’s inherent goodness, and how sometimes small actions can have a big impact.
IN THIS EPISODE:
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Maryanna’s Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/maryannasaenko
Future Ventures: https://future.ventures
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
“These (carbon) marketplaces and standards and operators, they're really opportunities for an innovation sandbox where we're saying, ‘Okay, what's the tech that we need to build? What are the frameworks that we need to build? What sort of systems do we need in place between public and private interests? Between spot markets and futures? How do they relate to other financial systems that we have?’ It's an opportunity to finally start to say ‘How do we fix these problems? What do we need to change? Who else needs to be at the table? And how do we raise all boats with the tide?’” -Oliver Miltenberger
Oliver Miltenberger joins hosts Patrick Leung and Armando Davila to demystify carbon markets and to share his insider’s view of the exciting threshold that the evolution of carbon markets has currently arrived at. Oliver breaks down the complexity of the past, present, and future of the markets and then takes listeners beneath the surface into deeper issues that the market can be a vehicle for addressing. This illuminating conversation is a perfect mix of mind and heart that will leave you feeling informed and inspired.
IN THIS EPISODE:
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Oliver’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-miltenberger/
Songs by Nick Barbachano: https://nickbarbachanomusic.bandcamp.com/
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
“We’re reminded that we must sit in the stillness of who we are, that we must take the time to deeply listen to that instruction that will keep us aligned with Mother Earth, for it is through the current of unification and that alignment that we will truly go through the keyhole and land in the new dawn, helping to birth something quite remarkable for many generations to come.” -Jyoti Ma
Jyoti Ma joins host Troy Carter for a fascinating conversation centered around how nature, indigenous wisdom, and prophecy can be powerful guides during this time of great upheaval. Jyoti speaks about our humanity’s climate emergency with grandmotherly softness and grace and shares how she is working with both indigenous communities and with entrepreneurs to restore ecosystems and create a healthy planet for future generations. She eloquently weaves the sacred and the pragmatic together, illuminating a grounded path to the fulfillment of the great prophecies that speak of a new dawn on the horizon.
IN THIS EPISODE:
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
The Fountain: https://thefountain.earth
Center for Sacred Studies: https://www.centerforsacredstudies.org
Songs by Ayla Schafer: https://www.aylaschafer.co.uk
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
“We reach that point where we understand ‘Okay, we're in symbiotic relationship with natural earth systems. We're not protected by the GDP. We're not protected by chemical fertilizers or genetically modified organisms. We're protected by living systems. We are part of living systems that have existed over billions of years; they don't belong to anybody; they belong to everybody. We are part of the system.’” - John D. Liu
John D. Liu joins hosts Patrick Leung and Armando Davila in this wisdom-filled episode that explores humanity’s power to create a new economy that can lead the world back to balance by valuing the life support systems of our planet over all else. John draws on insights and teachings that he has gained from starting and participating in the Ecosystem Restoration Camps Movement and also dives into his current projects of using ecological forensics to strategically restore significant natural sites around the world. Throughout the conversation, John masterfully cuts through societal illusions, takes listeners deep into remembrance of what has true value, and then shows us a way forward by reintegrating the recognition of this value back into our world’s economy.
IN THIS EPISODE:
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Ecosystem Restoration Camps: ecosystemrestorationcamps.org
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
“We have to come together and the only way to come together is ultimately through a shared story of what's real, what's sacred, what's important, and who we are.” -Charles Eisenstein
Charles Eisenstein joins host Troy Carter for a heart-centered and thought-provoking conversation about humanity’s relationship with nature and the role of storytelling in creating our reality. Charles drops many truth bombs as he speaks about the blindspots and limitations of carbon reduction efforts, computer modeling, and economics when it comes to addressing the climate crisis. He also takes listeners deep into the richness of being human as he speaks of joy, grief, loss, love, and the immense beauty of life. This discussion is truly a journey that will leave you feeling empowered as a co-author of humanity’s emerging new story of a harmonious and reciprocal relationship with the Earth.
IN THIS EPISODE:
RELEVANT LINKS:
Earthshot Labs: www.earthshot.eco
Charles’ Website: charleseisenstein.org
Charles’ Books: charleseisenstein.org/books
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
“In some ways the Earthshot is a return home, it’s a return back to harmony, and back to being in synchrony and in fellowship with the rest of nature.” -Patrick Leung
In this first episode of the Earthshot Podcast, join hosts Troy, Patrick, and Armando as they introduce Earthshot and dive deep into the main themes and philosophies that will guide future episodes. They explore the roles of technology and finance in planetary restoration, how the carbon market can be a transitional tool towards a sustainable economy, the importance of honoring indigenous wisdom, and the big shifts in form and consciousness that we are going through as a humanity. Enjoy this deep yet playful conversation that sets the stage for many rich interviews in the coming episodes.
IN THIS EPISODE:
RELEVANT LINKS:
The Earthshot Website: www.earthshot.eco
Troy Carter’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/troyearthshot
Patrick Leung’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/puiwah
Armando Davila’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/armando-davila-49681716
Intro & Outro Music by Little Whale: https://littlewhale.bandcamp.com
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