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Health care is a $4.3 trillion business in the United States, accounting for 18 percent of the nation's economy. It should come as no surprise then that the industry has become attractive to private investors, who promise cost savings, expanded use of technology, and streamlined operations.
But according to Yale University's Howard Forman, M.D., "most private equity money does seem to be making matters worse rather than better." One issue is that investors chase the healthiest and most profitable patients, undermining another kind of equity — health equity — in an already deeply unequal health care system.
In the latest episode of The Dose podcast, host Joel Bervell charts a wide-ranging discussion with Dr. Forman, a professor of radiology and biomedical imaging, public health, management, and economics, about private equity's growing role in American health care. This is the second episode of our new series of conversations about health care affordability.
Nearly one in five Americans has medical debt. Black households are disproportionately affected, carrying higher amounts of debt at higher rates.
Berneta Haynes, senior attorney with the National Consumer Law Center, describes Black Americans' medical debt burden as a continual cycle fed by higher rates of chronic illness and lower rates of wealth. As a result, many are left without savings or family resources to tap into when faced with an unexpected medical bill.
Join host Joel Bervell on the newest episode of The Dose podcast, where he talks to Haynes about the history of medical debt and efforts to ease pressure on the families and communities hit hardest, including the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's initiative to change what kinds of medical debt can show up on a person's credit report.
This episode kicks off a new series of conversations about affordability, including everything from the role of private equity in health care to why Americans pay more for care than any other high-income country.
Forty-four percent of U.S. women now live with some form of heart disease, a number that's been climbing steadily over the past decade. And although it's the leading cause of death among women, just 14 percent of cardiologists are women.
This week on The Dose podcast, host Joel Bervell interviews cardiologist Martha Gulati, M.D., associate director of the Barbra Streisand Women's Heart Center at Cedars-Sinai Heart Institute in Los Angeles and president of the American Society for Preventive Cardiology. She talks about women's historical exclusion from clinical trials for heart disease, why sex and gender matter in the search for better treatments, and the persistent gaps in women's cardiology care and research — especially related to women of color.
"In cardiology, we are still thinking about men more than we are about women," Dr. Gulati says.
Even though the U.S. has the highest maternal mortality rate of any developed country, federal programs that have been proven to improve maternal health outcomes are often the target of budget cuts.
This week on The Dose podcast, guest host Rachel Bervell speaks with Dr. Jamila Taylor, president and CEO of the National WIC Association, the nonprofit voice of the federal program that provides nutritious foods to more than 6.3 million women, infants, and children. They discuss the potential policy and funding solutions that can advance health for women, especially women of color.
Their conversation ranges from the debt ceiling legislation's impact on WIC to the pending "Momnibus" package of measures for improving health equity and quality of care for Black mothers.
"Those essential programs are always the first to be on the chopping block," Taylor says. "That's something that we really need to change in our approach to funding."
Research shows that Black women and other women of color experience the worst health outcomes of any group in the United States — regardless of income level. On The Dose podcast this week, host Joel Bervell talks to public health innovator Ashlee Wisdom, founder of a digital platform that connects women of color to culturally competent health care providers.
Black people make up 13 percent of the U.S. population but less than 6 percent of physicians, making it difficult for Black patients to connect with Black doctors. As Wisdom, founder of Health in Her HUE, explains, technology can be a tool for bridging that access gap until the physician workforce becomes more diverse. A new focus, she says, is fibroids, an oft-misdiagnosed condition in Black women that can lead to referrals for invasive interventions like hysterectomies.
The health care system, Wisdom says, is starting to put things in place. "We're seeing people shift away from the status quo and think about ways that they can learn how to provide culturally competent care."
This week on The Dose podcast, host Joel Bervell talks to Michelle Morse, New York City's first-ever chief medical officer. Starting in her role at the height of the COVID pandemic, Dr. Morse quickly understood the importance of establishing strong connections between the health department and the city's health care providers to help close gaps in equity, choose where to focus resources, and coordinate testing and vaccination efforts.
In a wide-ranging conversation, Dr. Morse talks about Black New Yorkers' disproportionately high rates of premature death, having racism declared a public health crisis in New York City, using community health workers to reach people where they live, and tracking the connection between wealth gaps and health outcomes. She also discusses the use of race in clinical algorithms that have "solidified racial inequities instead of trying to fix them and end them."
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On this week's episode of The Dose, host Joel Bervell talks withDr. Fatima Cody Stanford about obesity: its history, including the racist origins of the body mass index (BMI), as well as the flawed science, misperceptions, and stigma that people with obesity encounter.
Stanford, who's based at Massachusetts General Hospital, calls obesity "a really complex, multifactorial, relapsing, remitting chronic disease." She discusses genetic differences that account for the prevalence of obesity in racial and ethnic minority communities, the financial profitability of the weight loss and pharmaceutical industries, and the biases and dangerous risks of misdiagnosis that patients with obesity face every day at doctors' offices.
On this week's episode of The Dose, host Joel Bervell speaks with Dr. Ziad Obermeyer, from the University of California Berkeley's School of Public Health, about the potential of AI in informing health outcomes — for better and for worse.
Obermeyer is the author of groundbreaking research on algorithms, which are used on a massive scale in health care systems — for instance, to predict who is likely to get sick and then direct resources to those populations. But they can also entrench racism and inequality into the system.
"We've accumulated so much data in our electronic medical records, in our insurance claims, in lots of other parts of society, and that's really powerful," Obermeyer says. "But if we aren't super careful in what lessons we learn from that history, we're going to teach algorithms bad lessons, too."
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Dissecting racial bias in an algorithm used to manage the health of populations
On this special season of The Dose, guest host Joel Bervell is hosting a series of conversations with experts and leaders in health equity. In examining how we can uproot racism in our healthcare system, we are starting at the beginning of many healthcare careers: medical school.
Naomi Nkinsi was one of the few Black students in her cohort at University of Washington School of Medicine. She noticed that the images in her lectures depicted Black patients living in impoverished and hygienic conditions, while pictures of white patients showed polished school photos. Nkinsi recognized that the disparity in images reinforced harmful biases for her classmates, and she began to advocate for a change.
Through a back-and-forth with her university's administration, Nkinsi continued to advocate against racism. She eventually sparked a conversation that led to the reversal of the race-based component of the eGFR equation in many settings, thus removing a barrier to proper kidney treatment for thousands of Black patients.
On the latest episode of The Dose, Nnkinsi joins Joel Bervell to discuss why and how she continues to challenge racism, despite institutional pushback, and shares what medical schools can learn from their students.
"The days I didn't say anything, I felt worse than when I did," Nkinsi says. "I had already been outspoken, I already had the reputation of the angry Black student. Other classmates already viewed me as unprofessional… So if I already have that reputation, then I should just keep speaking out because it's not going to get worse."
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Health inequities and the inappropriate use of race in nephrology
Joel Bervell joins The Dose to host a special season examining equity in health care.
Joel has garnered hundreds of thousands of followers on TikTok and Instagram debunking medical myths and dissecting racism in health care. This season, he'll host a series of compelling conversations with emerging and established leaders working to transform the health care system's approach to equity.
The first episode releases on April 7th.
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