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The Disrupters: Faith Changing Culture

The Church has misunderstood power.

In Season 7 of The Disrupters, host Rev. Dr. Caleb Campbell invites listeners into a deeper conversation about how power shapes our relationships, our churches, our politics, our communities, and our witness in the world. Through honest conversations with pastors, theologians, activists, historians, scholars, and thought leaders, this season asks a disruptive question: What does it mean to follow a king who chose a cross instead of a sword?

Together, Caleb and his guests examine the assumptions, narratives, and systems that shape our perspectives of power. They explore how power can be hoarded, abused, and weaponized, while offering a vision for faithful power expressed through humility, service, courage, generosity, and love.

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Chandra Crane Owns Her Superpower Nov 05, 2020

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From fighting stereotypes to redefining isolating spaces, Asian American author Chandra Crane is an expert at disruption. But that doesn't mean it's easy—coming from a multiethnic and multicultural background, she's had to work to complicate oversimplified conversations. "It's actually a blessing to complicate things...It breaks up this conversation which assumes that everybody is either completely privileged or completely oppressed. So I think it pushes back on that and reminds us that we all have pain that needs to be healed and needs to be cared for." In this episode of the Disrupters, Esau McCaulley and Chandra Crane discuss multiethnic identity formation, overlooked stories, and helping to build bridges—without becoming one.

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David Swanson Refuses to Check Out Oct 29, 2020

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"There's no end to my learning and growing." From missionary kid in Venezuela to pastor in Chicago, David Swanson's eyes were gradually opened to injustice in his communities. As the white pastor of New Community Covenant Church on the South Side of the city and author of Rediscipling the White Church: From Cheap Diversity to True Solidarity, Swanson has humbly plunged into the multiracial spaces God has called him to. While it would be easy wash his hands of the tension, pain, and criticism that comes with the work of racial reconciliation, he won't: "What do I want to go back to majority white spaces for? What would I want to go be deeply embedded in white evangelicalism for? It's nowhere nearly as good as this is!" In this episode of the Disrupters, Esau McCaulley and David Swanson discuss the tough work and incredible blessings behind shepherding a church body in a multiracial community.

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Taylor Schumann Survived—Now She Speaks Up. Oct 21, 2020

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"I was already an extremely empathetic person, but this took it to a new level." Since writer and activist Taylor Schumann, author of forthcoming title ‘When Thoughts and Prayers Aren’t Enough: A Shooting Survivor’s Journey into the Realities of Gun Violence,’ was shot as a social worker in 2013 during a school shooting, she's had to stand up for herself and others who find themselves victims of gun violence. Coming from conservative small-town Virginia, it wasn't easy to become an activist for gun reform—but for Schumann, it's all about her faith. "For me, being more like Jesus is opposing things that are not in line with his vision for us as people on earth—and I cannot picture Jesus walking on the earth carrying an AR-15 down the street." In this episode of the Disrupters, Taylor Schumann and Esau McCaulley discuss the continuing trauma, difficult church spaces, and racial tensions surrounding gun violence.

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Robert Romero Amplifies The Brown Church Oct 15, 2020

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16th century priest Antonio de Montesinos once said to a group of American Christians: “God gave you the opportunity to share about Jesus and love, and instead you are exploiting it for greed. If you don’t repent, God’s gonna send you to hell.” This is the first social justice sermon preached in the Americas, one that inspired Robert Romero, author of The Brown Church's, own personal mission. Romero uses his voice to educate people on the history of the Brown Church and the role it has played in the most pivotal moments throughout history. Consistently a voice for the voiceless and a home for the homeless, the Brown Church has much to teach us, if only we would listen.

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Beth Moore Sounds the Alarm. Oct 08, 2020

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"Sometimes, you don't think about whether you're going to say something. You know you have to." In 2016, Beth Moore found herself struggling to reconcile the gospel with the church's reaction to a political sea change. "All at the same time, I am watching nationalism, I am watching sexism, and I'm watching racism." "It was like we were being blown back decades. We never made the ground that we needed to make. But I saw us going in reverse instead of making any advancement whatsoever in the gospel role of justice." Beth Moore doesn't write brazen, disruptive books about social issues. Her life's purpose is to study the Bible, and to share the insight and unadulterated joy that comes from God's word. Her latest Bible Study, "Now That Faith Has Come," is a simple, unassuming study of the book of Galatians. But if you wanted her to tip-toe around prominent, controversial social issues, you'd be sorely disappointed. While Moore did little more than speak what she believed the Bible had to say to the American church, that message suddenly became perceived as disruptive to her brothers and sisters in Christ. In this episode of The Disrupters, Esau McCaulley and Beth Moore discuss their shared experiences in the American Church, the ways they've dealt with feedback, and the unmatched clarity they find in the Word of God.

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Justin Giboney Saw a Problem. Then He Built Something. Oct 01, 2020

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Justin Giboney is fundamentally invested social justice. But he doesn't have to prove that to you. For people who are serious about their Christian faith, there's a stereotype of the political issues that they might be called to address. Justin cares about religious liberty and the sanctity of life. But he also cares about the immigrant, the poor, police reform, and all these other things. Through the AND Campaign, Justin is intentional about how he uses his voice. He asks, "What is the most fruitful way to engage in the work for justice in our society?" He's more concerned about speaking for those that don't have a voice than he is about making his voice heard. Justin Giboney is one of the founders of the AND Campaign, and one of the authors of Compassion (&) Conviction: The AND Campaign's Guide to Faithful Civic Engagement.

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Lecrae Will Not Be Defined. Sep 24, 2020

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Lecrae, Grammy award-winning rapper is used to people trying to box him in—as if they could box in a man who lives to tell the truth. In this episode of The Disrupters, Esau McCaulley and Lecrae discuss what it takes to break out of a predetermined box, the backlash the hip-hop artist faced for speaking out about the black experience in Evangelicalism, and his perspective on what it means to deconstruct his faith. Lecrae's latest album is Restoration.

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Season 2 Is Going to be a Problem. Sep 17, 2020

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The world is different on the other side of a pandemic. The same kinds people who were ignored are now in the center of the conversation. The question is: when people are ready to listen, what do you have to say?
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Jemar Tisby Confronts His Collaborators Apr 13, 2020

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For African American Christians in the evangelical church, cognitive dissonance is a way of life. As African Americans approach cultural change, there’s a long-standing tension between working within mainstream institutions, seeking to provide insight and challenge whenever possible, and then finding their work most effective outside of those institutions. That’s where Jemar Tisby finds himself: “I want to be very careful about where I place my voice.” In this final episode of The Disruptors, a conversation between Esau McCaulley, an African-American professor at a majority white institution, and Jemar Tisby, founder and president of The Witness and author of The Color of Compromise, illuminates the dissonance. More importantly, this conversation clearly demonstrates how this tension serves as an ever-present reminder that the racial struggles we face in the American church flow from historical struggles.
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Ruth Everhart Reexamines Our Faulty Systems Apr 06, 2020

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Despite the fact that the protection of those who are sexually exploited and abused in the church is of utmost importance, the issue continues to exist because of its very nature. Uncomfortable and unwilling to engage a topic that demands so much introspection of the church, many turn their gaze elsewhere. Ruth Everhart, author of The #MeToo Reckoning: Facing the Church’s Complicity in Sexual Abuse and Misconduct, wants us to grapple with the reality on the ground and our role in confronting it. We all have a part to play to make the church a safer space for people.
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