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    The Dialogue Doctor Podcast

    Writing great books is critical to generating sales and building a following of readers. On the Dialogue Doctor Podcast, Jeff Elkins and other writers discuss how to write dialogue that will excite readers and help you sell more books.

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    Latest Episodes:
    How to Make Readers Root for a Character Who's Done Terrible Things [Ep 343] Aug 24, 2026
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    How do you make readers root for a character who has done something terrible?

    In this episode of The Dialogue Doctor Podcast, Jeff Elkins sits down with new author Aubrey W to talk through one of the hardest emotional arcs to pull off: repentance.

    Aubrey is working on a thriller built around a character who has done real harm, but she does not want the reader simply waiting for punishment. She wants the reader to long for redemption. That creates a powerful craft problem. How do you make a morally compromised character compelling without excusing what they have done?

    Jeff and Aubrey dig into what makes readers forgive, follow, and even love difficult characters. They talk about redemption arcs, unlikable protagonists, hidden wounds, vigilante logic, unreliable narrators, and the emotional difference between justice, revenge, repentance, and mercy.

    The conversation pulls examples from Six of Crows, Les Misérables, Gone Girl, The Girl on the Train, Dexter, and Spider-Man to explore how authors can give readers permission to care about characters who are lying, hiding, hurting people, or justifying their worst choices.

    They also get into the practical craft of first-person POV, how to create two distinct narrator voices, how inner thought changes pacing, when a character should lie to the reader, and why some stories only work when we are trapped inside the character's head.

    Listen in if you are writing a thriller, a redemption arc, an unreliable narrator, a morally gray protagonist, or any character who needs the reader to think, "I hate what you're doing, but I still want you to change."

    Because redemption only works when the reader still believes there is someone inside the character worth saving.

    For more, check out Dialogue Doctor.com


    Spider-Man vs. The Odyssey: A Story Craft Showdown for Authors [Ep 342] Aug 17, 2026
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    Two huge stories. Two very different emotional experiences.

    In this episode, Jeff Elkins and Tom Holbrook sit down for a spoiler-filled conversation about Spider-Man: Brand New Day and Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey.

    But this is not just a movie review.

    It is a craft conversation for authors.

    Jeff and Tom dig into why some stories feel emotionally satisfying while others feel impressive but distant. They talk about spectacle, stakes, character wounds, nonlinear structure, callbacks, moral choices, emotional payoff, and the difference between a story that feels big and a story that actually lands.

    Along the way, they compare Spider-Man's ground-level vulnerability with the epic scope of The Odyssey, unpack how Tom Holland's performance creates instant emotional connection, and look at what Christopher Nolan does well when building structure, symbols, trauma, and mythic weight.

    This episode is for authors who want to understand why readers care.

    Not just why a plot works.

    Not just why a world feels big.

    But why a character's pain, choices, relationships, and emotional movement are what make a story memorable.

    Listen in if you are writing fantasy, sci-fi, thrillers, superhero stories, epic fiction, or anything with high stakes; and you want those stakes to matter on a human level.

    Because spectacle may get attention.

    But emotion is what makes the story stay.


    How to Open a Thriller Without Losing the Reader [Ep 341] Aug 10, 2026
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    Thriller writers hear the advice all the time: get to the inciting incident fast.

    But what happens when you get there so quickly the reader has not had time to care?

    In this episode of The Dialogue Doctor Podcast, Jeff Elkins sits down with author Jed to look at the opening chapters of a corporate thriller with a romantic subplot. Jed's story begins with a stolen item, a veiled threat, a high-pressure professional team, and the kind of tense setup thriller readers expect.

    The problem is not that the opening lacks conflict.

    The problem is that the story may be moving so efficiently that the reader does not yet know who to emotionally follow.

    Jeff and Jed dig into one of the trickiest craft problems in thriller writing: how to use third-person omniscient POV without making the reader feel unanchored. They talk about "head-hopping," the difference between omniscient narration and a guiding narrator, and how a small narrative guide can help direct the reader's emotional experience through a big cast.

    They also explore why a thriller opening may need a little more character interaction before the crime lands, how dialogue can make a professional team feel alive, why a front-loaded letter may distance the reader, and how to balance fast pacing with enough emotional connection to make the tension matter.

    Watch this episode if you are writing a thriller, working with a large cast, struggling with POV, or trying to figure out how to make your opening chapter feel tense, cinematic, and emotionally grounded.

    Because a great thriller does not just start with something going wrong.

    It starts with readers knowing exactly why they should care.


    Is Craft Really King Again? Authors Debate What Actually Sells Books [Write Wrong Repeat Ep 4] Aug 07, 2026
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    What actually sells books right now?

    Is it craft? Writing to market? Better ads? Faster production? AI tools? A stronger backlist? Or is the real answer messier than any one author guru wants to admit?

    In this episode of Write, Wrong, Repeat, Holly Lyne, Jeff Elkins, JP Rindfleisch IX, Crys Cain, and Tom Holbrook get honest about the current state of the author business.

    The conversation starts with real author updates: rough NetGalley reviews, TikTok experiments, BookVault print quality, Facebook ads, AI translations, ADHD and productivity, newsletter flows, rights reversions, and the emotional whiplash of trying to build a sustainable writing career while life keeps happening.

    Then the group digs into the big question authors are hearing everywhere right now: is craft king again?

    The answer is not simple. Craft matters. Writing to market matters. Reader expectation matters. Emotional connection matters. And "good writing" does not always mean literary prose—it means giving your readers the experience they came for and doing it well.

    If you are an indie author trying to decide where to put your energy next, this episode will help you think more clearly about craft, market fit, ads, AI, reader expectations, and the difference between chasing trends and building stories people actually want to keep reading.

    Listen for a practical, funny, brutally honest conversation about what is working, what is exhausting, and what authors may need to rethink next.


    Stop Writing Scenes. Start Designing the Reader's Emotional Journey. [Ep 340] Aug 03, 2026
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    Most writers are taught to think about plot, character arcs, genre, theme, setting, cast, and prose as separate craft problems.

    But what if they are all doing the same job?

    What if every tool in your novel exists to shape one thing: the reader's emotional journey?

    In this solo episode of The Dialogue Doctor Podcast, Jeff Elkins introduces the big idea behind his new book, The Dialogue Doctor on Writing Emotion. Instead of treating emotion like something mysterious that either "works" or doesn't, Jeff breaks it down into a practical framework writers can actually use.

    You'll learn how to think about your story through seven emotional tools: trajectory, vector, alignment, saturation, velocity, pressure, and altitude. These tools help explain why readers feel hope, dread, comfort, tension, frustration, satisfaction, heartbreak, or joy as they move through a story.

    Jeff also talks about why traditional story systems like Save the Cat, Story Grid, and beat sheets are useful—but limited. The goal is not to throw those systems away. The goal is to understand what they are doing to the reader so you can use them with more freedom, confidence, and creativity.

    Watch this episode if you want to stop guessing your way through emotional scenes and start designing a reader journey that actually lands.

    Because great stories do not just happen on the page.

    They happen inside the reader.


    The One Thing Your Emotional Scene Might Be Missing [Ep 339 - Audio Only] Jul 27, 2026
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    Your dialogue can be sharp. Your scene can move fast. Your characters can have real chemistry.

    But if the reader doesn't spend enough time inside the emotional turn, the biggest moment in the scene can fly by before it lands.

    In this episode of The Dialogue Doctor Podcast, Jeff Elkins works with sci-fi author Leanne Robinson on a dialogue-heavy scene between an alien woman and the hero who has complicated feelings for her. What begins as a fun, flirtatious reunion quickly turns into something much bigger: a relationship crisis, a betrayal, a pregnancy reveal, and a major turning point in Randy's emotional arc.

    Jeff's core advice is simple but powerful: emotional depth often comes from time on the page.

    You'll learn how to slow down the right moments without dragging the scene, how to expand key utterances so readers feel the emotional shift, how to use inner thought to clarify what a character is really reacting to, and how to separate romance, suspicion, betrayal, fear, and responsibility when they all collide in the same conversation.

    This session is especially useful if you write dialogue-heavy scenes, sci-fi romance, multi-POV stories, character-driven conflict, or emotional turning points where a character has to become more serious, responsible, or honest with themselves.

    Watch this episode if you want to learn how to take a scene that already works and make it hit harder.


    The Secret to Making High-Stakes Fantasy Feel Personal [Ep 338 VIDEO] Jul 20, 2026
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    A young hero is about to make a decision that could change everything. But will the reader feel the weight of that choice?

    In this coaching session, editor Laura Humm works with author Liz Woodwiss on Chapter 21 of Liz's epic fantasy novel. The scene centers on Terry, a 14-year-old reluctant hero who is being pushed toward a terrifyingly grown-up decision: petitioning the King directly during a Day of King's Grace in order to expose the Queen's manipulation. Laura helps Liz strengthen the chapter by bringing the reader deeper into Terry's point of view.

    Instead of letting the scene become a room full of adults discussing politics, Laura shows how Terry's fear, hope, confusion, and urgency can guide the reader through the complexity of the moment. You'll learn how to open a scene with emotional stakes, how to keep third person close narration anchored in your protagonist, how to remind readers what matters at the start of a chapter, and how to use teenage reactions, whispers, and shared panic to make political fantasy feel immediate and personal.

    The session also digs into world-building through character-specific imagery, including how Terry's lace-making background can shape the way he sees danger, pressure, and choice.

    Watch this session if you're writing YA fantasy, political intrigue, a reluctant hero, or any scene where a young character has to stand in a room full of adults and decide who they are going to become.


    The Secret to Making High-Stakes Fantasy Feel Personal [Ep 338 AUDIO ONLY] Jul 20, 2026
    Show notes

    A young hero is about to make a decision that could change everything.

    But will the reader feel the weight of that choice?

    In this coaching session, editor Laura Humm works with author Liz Woodwiss on Chapter 21 of Liz's epic fantasy novel. The scene centers on Terry, a 14-year-old reluctant hero who is being pushed toward a terrifyingly grown-up decision: petitioning the King directly during a Day of King's Grace in order to expose the Queen's manipulation.

    Laura helps Liz strengthen the chapter by bringing the reader deeper into Terry's point of view. Instead of letting the scene become a room full of adults discussing politics, Laura shows how Terry's fear, hope, confusion, and urgency can guide the reader through the complexity of the moment. You'll learn how to open a scene with emotional stakes, how to keep third person close narration anchored in your protagonist, how to remind readers what matters at the start of a chapter, and how to use teenage reactions, whispers, and shared panic to make political fantasy feel immediate and personal.

    The session also digs into world-building through character-specific imagery, including how Terry's lace-making background can shape the way he sees danger, pressure, and choice.

    Watch this session if you're writing YA fantasy, political intrigue, a reluctant hero, or any scene where a young character has to stand in a room full of adults and decide who they are going to become.


    How to Finish a Novel Without Overthinking Every Edit [Ep 337] Jul 13, 2026
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    You've revised the book. You've worked through the big problems. You can see the finish line.

    But now every tiny note feels dangerous.

    Should you fix that sentence? Change that symbol? Rework that scene? Ask for more feedback? Or are you just giving yourself another reason not to finish?

    In episode 337 of The Dialogue Doctor Podcast, Jeff Elkins works with author Laurel Bollinger on the final revision stage of her children's fantasy novel and helps her sort the edits that matter from the edits that only create noise.

    You'll learn how to look at your almost-finished manuscript with more confidence, make smart choices about continuity, voice, pacing, character consistency, and story logic, and stop treating every small question like a five-alarm fire.

    If you're close to finishing your book but keep getting pulled back into one more pass, this episode will help you breathe, focus, and move forward.

    Because the goal isn't to edit forever.

    The goal is to finish the book and get it into readers' hands.


    The Secret to Using Dialogue to Build Character Chemistry [Ep 336] Jul 06, 2026
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    Writers want readers to care the first time two important characters meet.

    But the problem is that first meeting scenes can easily become functional. Characters exchange information, explain the plot, describe the setting, and move the story forward, but the reader does not yet feel the chemistry, tension, suspicion, or possibility between them.

    In this episode, Jeff Elkins works with author Gladys Strickland on a scene where two main characters, Sarah and Thaddeus, meet in person for the first time. Sarah is an art historian trying to rebuild her academic confidence. Thaddeus is an archaeologist with a damaged reputation and a blunt, guarded personality. They do not fully trust each other yet, but they are being pulled toward a mystery that will force them to work together.

    Jeff shows how small craft choices can make that first meeting come alive: how a character's home can reveal who they are, how two POVs can interpret the same room differently, how sentence length and word choice separate character voices, and how body language helps readers understand emotional tone.

    The conversation also digs into how to weave research, history, and worldbuilding into dialogue without dumping information on the reader. Jeff explains why readers need only the details they must remember, why POV characters should not hide their thoughts from us, and how emotional ramps help arguments, trust, and chemistry build at the right pace.

    Watch this episode if you're writing a first meeting scene, a dual POV scene, a mystery or thriller, an academic adventure, or any story where two characters need to move from suspicion toward partnership.


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