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    The Couples Therapist Couch

    This podcast is about the practice of Couples Therapy. Many of the episodes are interviews with leaders in the field of Relationships. The show is meant to help Therapists and Coaches learn how to help people to deepen their connection, but in the process it explores what is most needed for each of us to love, heal, and grow. Each week Shane Birkel interviews an expert in the field of Couples Therapy to explore all about the world of relationships and how to be an amazing therapist.

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    093: Men and Communication with Robert Kandell Aug 27, 2019
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    When it comes to communication, there are differences in the way that we are socialized as men and women. In this conversation with Robert Kandell, he breaks down some important aspects of that communication so that people can be more successful and connected.

    Robert is an accomplished teacher, coach, and lecturer. An expert in interpersonal communication and relationships, he has helped thousands of students find a more balanced, energized life with better relationships, more sex and more happiness.

    He is the host of the highly successful podcast, TuffLove and author of the recent Amazon #1 Best Seller – unHIDDEN – A Book for Men and Those Confused By Them.

    Check out Robert's website at robertkantell.com

    Please subscribe to the podcast for more great episodes.

    Get your free course called Working with Couples 101

    Click here to join the Couples Therapist Couch Facebook Group

    Today's Sponsor

    The Kauai Retreat for Therapists

    The CAV Academy presents the Kauai Retreat for therapists on Kauai, Hawaii from February 13-15 2020. There are 3 days of workshops exploring the practice of Couples Therapy including one full day intensive with Terry Real. Sign up here!


    092: People of Color and Couples Therapy with Dr. Angela Clack Aug 20, 2019
    Show notes

    In this episode, Dr. Angela Clack discusses cultural legacies that have been passed down for generations. She talks about how to make people from minority cultures feel accepted and understood and hold space for the change that needs to happen in relationships.

    Dr. Clack is known for her ability to teach, supervise, coach, and provide training in various areas pertaining to children, youth, and their families. Because of her training and teaching abilities, Dr. Clack has made a massive impact in her community by reducing the stigma of people of color who seek mental health treatment. She is the Author of Women of Color Talk.

    The Couples Therapist Couch is the podcast for Couples Therapists about the practice of couples therapy. The host, Shane Birkel, interviews an expert in the field of couples therapy each week.

    Find out more about Dr. Clack at clackassociates.com

    Please subscribe to the podcast for more great episodes.

    Get your free course called Working with Couples 101

    Click here to join the Couples Therapist Couch Facebook Group

    Today's Sponsor

    The Kauai Retreat for Therapists

    The CAV Academy presents the Kauai Retreat for therapists on Kauai, Hawaii from February 13-15 2020. There are 3 days of workshops exploring the practice of Couples Therapy including one full day intensive with Terry Real. Sign up here!


    091: Deirdre Fay on Feeling Safely Attached Aug 13, 2019
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    In this episode, Deirdra Fay talks about the transformational change that is possible when we understand attachment and trauma and are able to do deeper work within ourselves. Deirdre talks about the seven steps to a solid internal world and helps people learn how to become safely embodied.

    Deirdra is the Author of Becoming Safely Embodied and Attachment-Based Yoga and Meditation for Trauma Recovery. She is also publishing a new book soon. She does a lot of teaching for therapists and has been inspired by her time living in an Ashram, yoga, mindfulness, IFS, Sensorimotor Therapy and Compassion Focused Therapy.

    The Couples Therapist Couch is the podcast for Couples Therapists about the practice of couples therapy. The host, Shane Birkel, interviews an expert in the field of couples therapy each week.

    Find out more about Deirdre at dfay.com

    You can also sign up for her free Safe Guide

    Please subscribe to the podcast for more great episodes.

    Get your free course called Working with Couples 101

    Click here to join the Couples Therapist Couch Facebook Group

    Today's Sponsor

    The Kauai Retreat for Therapists

    The CAV Academy presents the Kauai Retreat for therapists on Kauai, Hawaii from February 13-15 2020. There are 3 days of workshops exploring the practice of Couples Therapy including one full day intensive with Terry Real. Sign up here!


    090: Attachment Styles with Annie Chen Jun 18, 2019
    Show notes

    The topic of attachment has been becoming more and more prevalent in the world of relationships. The research is getting more and more clear about how important it is to understand attachment if we are to understand our own identity and our work with relationships.

    Research on attachment is guided by the assumption that the same motivational system that gives rise to the close emotional bond between parents and their children is responsible for the bond that develops between adults in emotionally intimate relationships.

    The interview today was with Annie Chen who wrote The Attachment Theory Workbook. Not only does it go into depth explaining the different attachment styles, it also has tons of great activities to find out more about yourself on a personal level.

    Annie Chen is a licensed marriage and family therapist with a private practice in Oakland, California, focused on working with couples. She holds master's degrees in counseling and Process-Oriented Psychology.

    The Couples Therapist Couch is the podcast for Couples Therapists about the practice of couples therapy. The host, Shane Birkel, interviews an expert in the field of couples therapy each week.

    Take the attachment quiz at attachmentquiz.com

    Find out more about Annie's book, The Attachment Theory Workbook

    Please subscribe to the podcast for more great episodes.

    Get your free course called Working with Couples 101

    Click here to join the Couples Therapist Couch Facebook Group

    Today's Sponsor

    The Kauai Retreat for Therapists

    The CAV Academy presents the Kauai Retreat for therapists on Kauai, Hawaii from February 13-15 2020. There are 3 days of workshops exploring the practice of Couples Therapy including one full day intensive with Terry Real. Sign up here!


    089: Infertility, Postpartum Depression, and Perinatal Loss with Bina Bird Jun 11, 2019
    Show notes

    So many of the couples we work with are going through the baby phase of their life. Whether they are trying to get pregnant, are pregnant, have lost a child, or just had a baby, there is going to be a lot of stress and a lot that is hard to predict. Unfortunately, there has historically been a lack of education about this for couples and a lack of support.

    In this episode Bina Bird talks all about how to help and guide these couples as they go through these phases and how to identify if more intensive support is required.

    Bina Bird is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Haslet Texas and helps couples navigate the pregnancy and postpartum phase of life.

    The Couples Therapist Couch is the podcast for Couples Therapists about the practice of couples therapy. The host, Shane Birkel, interviews an expert in the field of couples therapy each week. There is an episode released every Tuesday about the practice of couples therapy. Please subscribe to the podcast for more great episodes! If you enjoyed the episode please leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Click here to join the Couples Therapist Couch Facebook Group.

    Get your free course on Couples Therapy Here: Working with Couples 101

    Get your free handout about the impact of prenatal loss on relationships

    Check out Bina's website here: hasletcounseling.com

    Join Bina's facebook group for Maternal Mental Health Providers


    088: Lynn Grodzki on Bringing Aspects of Coaching into Therapy Jun 04, 2019
    Show notes

    In this episode with Lynn Grodzki, we talk about bringing aspects of coaching into our work with couples in therapy. There is a lot we can learn to make sure we are retaining clients in today's marketplace. Lynn talks about 9 skills we can start bringing into our practice now.

    Lynn Grodzki is a practice building expert who has helped hundreds of thousands of therapists and helping professionals build the practice they want. Lynn has written 6 books listed below including best seller, Building Your Ideal Private Practice.

    Her new book that just came out is called Therapy With a Coaching Edge.

    The Couples Therapist Couch is the podcast for Couples Therapists about the practice of couples therapy. The host, Shane Birkel, interviews an expert in the field of couples therapy each week. There is an episode released every Tuesday about the practice of couples therapy. Please subscribe to the podcast for more great episodes! If you enjoyed the episode please leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Click here to join the Couples Therapist Couch Facebook Group.

    Get your free course on Couples Therapy Here: Working with Couples 101

    Lynn is giving away a free chapter from her new book: Chapter from Therapy with a Coaching Edge

    Check out Lynn Grodzki's website at privatepracticesuccess.com

    Click here to see all of Lynn's books

    See Lynn's site for her new book called Therapy With a Coaching Edge


    087: Sex Talk with Erika Miley May 28, 2019
    Show notes

    In this episode, Erika Miley talks about the importance for therapists to get more comfortable with talking about sex. We all have our own sex "stuff" and the more we explore that and get education about sex, the more we can help the couples we work with.

    Erika Miley is a mental and sex therapist. She is the founder of the center for mental and sexual health. She hosts a podcast called Sex Talk with Erika Miley and has a facebook group called Sex Talk with Erika Miley Professionals Group.

    The Couples Therapist Couch is the podcast for Couples Therapists about the practice of couples therapy. The host, Shane Birkel, interviews an expert in the field of couples therapy each week.

    Check out Erika's website at ericamiley.com

    Please subscribe to the podcast for more great episodes.

    Get your free copy of The Comparison of 7 different Models of Couples Therapy.

    Click here to join the Couples Therapist Couch Facebook Group

    Check out Martha's website and free course at instituteforrelationalintimacy.com

    Today's Sponsor

    Brighter Vision

    Brighter Vision makes amazing websites for therapists. Go to www.brightervision.com/try/couples/ to get one month free off your Brighter Vision subscription. Let Brighter Vision help you build the practice of your dreams.


    086: Martha Kauppi on Working with Open Relationships May 14, 2019
    Show notes

    There is a growing reality of non-traditional couples who are coming in for relationship therapy. People who are in polyamorous relationships, want to open up their relationship or are among a number of other sexually marginalized populations are looking for guidance. As therapists we might not always know how to work with these types of relationships, but it is our responsibility to be as compassionate, understanding, and as open as possible.

    In this episode Martha Kauppi talks about how we all have particular biases that we bring to our work with clients and the importance of being aware of these and open to learning more about relationships we may not have worked with before.

    Martha is the founder of the Institute for Relational Intimacy. The Institute is committed to competence working with a full array of sex issues, including sexual health concerns, alternative sexualities, problematic sexual behavior, and LGBTQAI+ related concerns. She also offers training and support to therapists.

    Her dream is to debunk myths and prominent cultural beliefs that disrupt intimate connections between partners, and help create a world where it is easy to find a therapist who can work effectively with relational intimacy challenges.

    The Couples Therapist Couch is the podcast for Couples Therapists about the practice of couples therapy. The host, Shane Birkel, interviews an expert in the field of couples therapy each week.

    Please subscribe to the podcast for more great episodes.

    Get your free copy of The Comparison of 7 different Models of Couples Therapy.

    Click here to join the Couples Therapist Couch Facebook Group

    Check out Martha's website and free course at instituteforrelationalintimacy.com

    Today's Sponsor

    Brighter Vision

    Brighter Vision makes amazing websites for therapists. Go to www.brightervision.com/try/couples/ to get one month free off your Brighter Vision subscription. Let Brighter Vision help you build the practice of your dreams.


    085: The 5 Stages of Relationships with Leanne Clarkson May 07, 2019
    Show notes

    In this episode Leanne Clarkson talks about the Developmental Model of Couples Therapy which was created by Ellyn Bader and Peter Pearson. This is one of the leading model of couples therapy and Leanne does an amazing job of describing some of the ways this model can be used with couples.

    She identifies the 5 stages of couple's development which include:

    1. The honeymoon phase 2. Differentiation 3. Exploration 4. Reconnection and 5. Synergy

    Leanne Clarkson, MPCC is a clinical counselor and certified couples counselor from the Couples Institute; Bader/Pearson Developmental Model, and an Addictions Counselor in Vancouver, Canada.

    The Couples Therapist Couch is the podcast for Couples Therapists about the practice of couples therapy. The host, Shane Birkel, interviews an expert in the field of couples therapy each week.

    Please subscribe to the podcast for more great episodes.

    Get your free copy of The Comparison of 7 different Models of Couples Therapy.

    Click here to join the Couples Therapist Couch Facebook Group

    Check out Leanne's website at www.heartsmatter.ca

    Today's Sponsor

    Brighter Vision

    Brighter Vision makes amazing websites for therapists. Go to www.brightervision.com/try/couples/ to get one month free off your Brighter Vision subscription. Let Brighter Vision help you build the practice of your dreams.


    084: Men and Masculinity with Joseph Losi Apr 30, 2019
    Show notes

    There are very different ways that men and women are socialized in our culture. Often, this reality is unspoken and creates challenges for relationships. As therapists, we frequently see this in our office and it can be a challenge to know how to address the situation.

    In this episode, Joseph Losi talks about a healthy masculinity and what men can do to be more intimate, vulnerable, and connected to their emotions.

    Joseph A. Losi, MA, LMFT walks with couples, men and women toward a more powerful belief of self and more creative, fulfilling relationships. He blends a decade of therapeutic work with couples and individuals as a Certified Emotionally Focused Therapist and Supervisor in Training with fifteen years of experience in the Mankind Project. He helps his clients embrace authentic, vulnerable, and compassionate lives.

    The Couples Therapist Couch is the podcast for Couples Therapists about the practice of couples therapy. The host, Shane Birkel, interviews an expert in the field of couples therapy each week.

    Please subscribe to the podcast for more great episodes.

    Get your free copy of The Comparison of 7 different Models of Couples Therapy.

    Click here to join the Couples Therapist Couch Facebook Group

    Check out Joseph's website at josephlosi.com

    Learn more about the mankind project at mankindproject.org

    Today's Sponsor

    Brighter Vision

    Brighter Vision makes amazing websites for therapists. Go to www.brightervision.com/try/couples/ to get one month free off your Brighter Vision subscription. Let Brighter Vision help you build the practice of your dreams.


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