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2024 is Forecasted to Pass 1.5 Degrees - What Does That Mean? (w/ Dr. Nick Dunstone and Dr. Richard Betts) Feb 07, 2024

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In 2015, representatives from all countries attending COP21 agreed to limit global average temperature rise to well below 2.0 degrees Celsius above pre-Industrial levels and to aim for a 1.5 degree rise. Flash forward less than a decade, and the United Kingdom Meteorological Office is forecasting the average annual temperature for 2024 to likely be more than 1.5 degrees warmer than pre-Industrial levels. As the world continues to break annual, monthly, and daily temperature records, what does it mean that we're now exceeding the 1.5 degree threshold so soon after the Paris Agreement?

To help us understand the importance of this forecast, Dr. Nick Dunstone, leader of the Climate Dynamics Group at the Met Office and one of the scientists that conducted the forecast, joins the show to discuss what it means that 2024 may exceed the 1.5 degree threshold, the factors causing the record-breaking temperature, and what people and policymakers should take away from this historic milestone. Dr. Richard Betts, Head of the Climate Impacts Strategic Area at the Met Office, is also on today's episode to discuss his team's recent forecast of CO2 concentration in the atmosphere. As CO2 emissions continue to rise, it's no surprise that temperatures continue to rise as well. Dr. Betts helps explain the factors that contribute to 2024's record increase in CO2 concentration and provide context to this year's forecast.

Read The Met's 2024 Temperature Forecast

Read The Met's 2024 CO2 Concentration Forecast

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The New Politics Of The Climate Crisis Era (w/ Ajay Singh Chaudhary) Jan 31, 2024

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We witness the climate crisis every day. Unfolding on our news feeds, impacting our communities, and undeniably causing unfathomable, inequitable harm across the planet. We lament the lack of urgency in our political leaders and even find ourselves frustrated by complacency in the public's push for climate action. But we truly are in a transformative moment - though how we meet this moment remains uncertain.

The changing politics of our time is the focus of Ajay Singh Chaudhary's new book, The Exhausted of the Earth: Politics In A Burning World. He joins the show to discuss some of the big philosophical and social considerations as the climate crisis continues to change everything.

Ajay Singh Chaudhary is the executive director of the Brooklyn Institute for Social Research and a core faculty member specializing in social and political theory.

Read The Exhausted of the Earth

The Immediate Benefits of Decarbonization (w/ Dr. Drew Shindell) Jan 24, 2024

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The negative impacts of climate change are almost always depicted on a global scale and decades-long timeframe. However, the positive impacts of reducing the use of fossil fuels are realized at the local level and almost immediately. The co-authors of the recently published paper, "Reductions in Premature Deaths from Heat and Particulate Matter Air Pollution in South Asia, China, and the United States Under Decarbonization", found that the near term health benefits of moving to a clean energy-fueled society far outweigh the costs of the clean energy transition, because death rates from air pollution and excessive heat are reduced drastically. How much and when those death rates depend on region-specific variables, but across the board, any country that decarbonizes will see both near term and long term benefits to the health of their citizens.

Dr. Drew Shindell, the Nicholas Professor of Earth Science at Duke University, joined The Climate Pod this week to discuss the paper that he co-wrote and other research he has done on methane and the co-benefits of transitioning our world beyond its current reliance on fossil fuels.

Follow Dr. Shindell's work here: https://nicholas.duke.edu/people/faculty/shindell

Read the paper here: https://www.pnas.org/doi/epdf/10.1073/pnas.2312832120

An Optimistic Case for a Sustainable Future (w/ Dr. Hannah Ritchie) Jan 10, 2024

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As global temperatures continue to rise, fossil fuel production continues to increase, forests continue to be cut down, and species are becoming extinct at rates faster than previous mass extinctions, it's hard to find any hope for a sustainable, or even habitable, future. But giving up is not an option. There are billions of people now and in the near future whose lives depend on solving the multitude of human-caused environmental and health crises plaguing the planet today. The good news is, even though things are not good right now, they've been much worse. And they're better today because we finally know how to power our lives, feed our families, and grow our economies without destroying our environment.

Dr. Hannah Ritchie, the Deputy Editor and Lead Researcher at Our World in Data, joins the show today to talk about her new book "Not the End of the World: How We Can Be the First Generation to Build a Sustainable Planet". Dr. Ritchie has studied the data and believes that for the first time in human history, there is no longer a tradeoff between human and environmental wellbeing. After researching the climate crisis, air pollution, deforestation, biodiversity loss, world hunger, and plastic pollution, Dr. Ritchie has come away with the understanding that things are bad now, but they're better than they were, and we have the real possibility of making them much better in the future.

Read "Not the End of the World"

What Did We Learn About Climate Media, Activism, and Justice in 2023? (w/ Evlondo Cooper and Mitzi Jonelle Tan) Dec 28, 2023

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It's been a long year and so much has happened in the fight for climate justice. How has it been covered in major US media outlets? What is needed as the global fight for climate action continues? Two expert guests join the show this week to weigh in on these critical topics as we close out the year. First, Evlondo Cooper, senior writer with the climate and energy program at Media Matters, discusses what he saw in media coverage in 2023, what we can learn about how climate and environmental justice issues are covered, and how media can improve in 2024. Then, Mitzi Jonelle Tan, a full-time climate justice activist based in Metro Manila, Philippines who is also the convenor and international spokesperson of Youth Advocates for Climate Action Philippines (YACAP), the Fridays For Future (FFF) of the Philippines, joins the show. We discuss some of the biggest issues we faced in 2023, where world leaders failed to act, and how to bring about more just outcomes next year.

Read Evlondo Cooper's work at Media Matters

Learn more about Mitzi Jonelle Tan's work

The Unequal Climate Impacts on Natural Capital (w/ Dr. Bernie Bastien-Olvera) Dec 20, 2023

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As the planet warms, ecosystems are on the move. Biologists and climate scientists have observed the migration of forests toward the poles and even toward higher elevations as human-caused climate change forces species into more hospitable areas. And economists have known for centuries that countries rely on their natural resources for the raw materials needed for producing the goods that help make up their gross domestic product. So what happens to an economy when those natural resources leave? That's exactly what Dr. Bernie Bastien-Olvera and his colleagues set out to understand with their recent paper "Unequal Climate Impacts on Global Values of Natural Capital". While many may take issue with the concept of valuing nature for its economic benefits to humans, such an analysis is important as international leaders work to find ways to compensate countries most impacted by the climate crisis via a Loss and Damage fund and regulations are created that attempt to assign the real cost of carbon dioxide emissions to those that continue to pollute the planet. Dr. Bastien-Olvera joins the show this week to discuss the findings in this paper and its implications for such regulations.

Co-hosts Ty and Brock also discuss the new Netflix film "Leave the World Behind".

Read "Unequal Climate Impacts on Global Values of Natural Capital"

Follow Dr. Bastien-Olvera on Twitter

COP28: What's Behind The Headlines? (w/ Nina Lakhani, Aderonke Ige, and Rachel Rose Jackson) Dec 16, 2023

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COP28 has come to a close. Since the final day of the conference, we've seen both a number of headlines noting a historic decision and news of climate injustices at this year's event. So what are the most critical takeaways from COP28? To answer, we brought on three guests that attended the conference to take a deep dive into the biggest issues, the decisions that were made, and what comes next.

Nina Lakhani is a Senior Reporter for Guardian US, who spent the last two weeks covering COP28. Nina discusses what the final text of the decision means, what was and wasn't accomplished on addressing mitigation, adaptation, and loss and damage, and what this could mean for the COP process going forward.

Then, Aderonke Ige and Rachel Rose Jackson join the show to discuss how the influence of the fossil fuel industry shaped COP28, what countries were most responsible for blocking progress, and why COP is still an essential event for activists, campaigners, organizers, and climate justice advocates to show up to and fight. Aderonke Ige is the Associate Director for Corporate Accountability & Public Participation Africa. Rachel Rose Jackson is the Director of Climate Research and Policy at Corporate Accountability.

Further Reading:

Indigenous people and climate justice groups say Cop28 was 'business as usual'

Cop28 landmark deal agreed to 'transition away' from fossil fuels

The Messages That Actually Motivate Climate Action (w/ John Marshall) Dec 13, 2023

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For the last four years, John Marshall and the team at Potential Energy Coalition have been testing more than 3 billion ads in 20 countries to determine what messages are the most effective at inspiring climate action. In this conversation, we discuss what it really takes to motivate someone to support climate policies, which policies are more popular than others, what principles of climate communication everyone can learn, and why clean energy jobs aren't always appealing.

John Marshall is the founder and CEO of Potential Energy Coalition, a global, nonprofit marketing firm that's creating demand for climate solutions. The latest report is Later is Too Late - A comprehensive analysis of the messaging that accelerates climate action in the G20 and beyond.

How To Earn Rural Support Of Climate Action (w/ Jane Kleeb) Dec 06, 2023

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Rural voters are often overlooked or completely ignored when it comes to progressive campaigns, including ones centered on climate action. And yet, it is the vast land available in rural areas that offer the greatest opportunity to build out clean energy projects in America. But years of misinformation, crumbling political infrastructure, and Republican, one-party control has lead to a major obstacle obstructing the path to a decarbonized economy. So how do we change that?

There may be no better expert to answer the question than Jane Kleeb. Kleeb is the Founder of Bold Alliance, author of Harvest the Vote, chair of the Nebraska Democratic Party, and most recently, a recipient of the 2023 Climate Breakthrough Award, which will be used to "build alliances among rural Americans and advocate clean energy development that is beneficial to local residents." She joins the show this week to discuss how to ensure that rural residents share in the wealth of clean energy projects, why we need more than a just transition, and the values that more conservative, rural voters share with progressives.

Check out more on the 2023 Climate Breakthrough Award and read Harvest the Vote

What's At Stake At COP28? (w/ David Gelles and Pascoe Sabido) Nov 29, 2023

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This week, we have two great guests on the show to explain what's at stake at COP28 and some of the biggest issues surrounding the conference. First, New York Times correspondent David Gelles joins to discuss what he'll be covering at COP28, why the recent US-China deal heading into the conference might provided a much needed jolt, and what to watch for when it comes to climate finance and the fund for loss and damage. Then, researcher and campaigner Pascoe Sabido joins the show to discuss a new analysis of the presence of fossil fuel lobbyists at UN climate talks and what it has meant to action on climate.

David Gelles is a correspondent on the Climate desk at The New York Times, covering the intersection of public policy and the private sector. Follow David's work at The New York Times here.

Pascoe Sabido is a researcher and campaigner at the Corporate Europe Observatory and a co-cordinator of the Kick Big Polluters Out coalition

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