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Whiteheart: Freedom, Ep. 10 - "Let It Go" Jul 03, 2023

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GORDON: I've thought if you look at Jesus on the cross and tell him that, "Well, there's this one thing I've done that's too much" then you're looking at him there and saying, "So what you're doing is not enough."
Before they talk about the message of forgiveness and healing in "Let It Go", the guys delve into the genius that is producer, Brown Bannister. From the way songs were chosen to the final order on the album, Brown's methods would be replicated by the guys for decades.
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Whiteheart: Freedom, Ep. 9 - "The River Will Flow" Jun 26, 2023

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GERSH: We could come out of a song like The River Will Flow into the same Psalm and just that reflection to say, Whatever it is, whatever you're going through, whatever's going on in your life, listen for the river within you. It's strong. It's a beautiful place. And, and you know what, just be still there. Just be still and know....
In this episode, the guys discuss chocolate malts, Steven Curtis Chapman, the Psalms and producer, Brown Bannister playing to everyone's strengths within the group.
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Whiteheart: Freedom, Ep. 8 - "Invitation" Jun 19, 2023

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TOMMY: it's not only on the record, but it was like the loudest thing on the record at that point. And I thought, no way are they actually, uh, this, we're actually keeping this, you know, literally it was, it was, it was just a joke. I was trying to crack everybody up...

In this episode, Gordon and Tommy discuss co-writing Invitation and Tommy's scatting while Rick chimes in with his thoughts on the energy the song provides for live shows.
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Whiteheart: Freedom, Ep. 7 - "Power Tools" Jun 12, 2023

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RICK: So I'm like, you know, couple rooms away, running down the hall with a microphone in my hand all the way right up to his face! That was so stinking awesome. I LOVED doing that!
In this episode, the topic turns to drummer, Chris McHugh! Gordon explains the inspiration behind Power Tools, Rick and Gersh recall the metal scream at the beginning and the episode ends with learning who the little girl's voice is at the end.
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Whiteheart: Freedom, Ep. 6 - "Eighth Wonder" Jun 05, 2023

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GORDON: Even in recent years walking off stage with somebody like Peter Frampton and seeing somebody running towards me, ... and it's somebody, "Man, that Freedom album, that Freedom album. Oh my gosh."
In this episode, Gersh discusses the the message of Eighth Wonder, Gordon cracks about the charts and Rick pulls back the curtain a little on Christian radio.

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Whiteheart: Freedom, Ep. 5 - "Over Me" May 29, 2023

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GERSH: he's standing in front of the microphone and we hit a pause and we're rolling back the tape. And I say to him, "what did you just do?" And he says, "what?" I said, "what did you just do? "..... "I don't know. What did I just do?"
In this episode, Gordon chokes up talking about God's blessings pouring out on his life, Rick talks about joining the band and Gersh talks about Rick's first time in the studio.
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Whiteheart: Freedom, Ep. 4 - "Let The Kingdom Come" May 22, 2023

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TOMMY: The idea that nobody's more or less important here. it is just the unit. What's important is that we just get the best music we can get,...

In this episode, Gersh explains the inspiration behind the song, Tommy discusses how he came up with that silky smooth bass riff in the intro and Gordon ties in Roy Orbison and later, the Mississippi Blues.
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Whiteheart: Freedom, Ep. 3 - "Sing Your Freedom" May 15, 2023

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GORDON: the older you get and the longer you live, the more you see God laughing and smiling and winking at you...

In this episode, the guys discuss the second song on the album and Gordon discusses his family's musical lineage (spoiler alert: his dad was kind of a big deal...)
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Whiteheart: Freedom, Ep. 2 - "Bye Bye Babylon" May 08, 2023

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GERSH: well, the idea originally sprang we were in my apartment...
We start with "Bye Bye Babylon", the opening track off of Whiteheart's 1989 album, Freedom but we also discuss how lead vocals are determined and how Rick Florian takes someone else's lyrics and makes it his own. (Spoiler Alert: that was Gordon Kennedy singing lead on "Montana Sky" from their Emergency Broadcast album.)
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Whiteheart: Freedom, Ep. 1 - Origins May 01, 2023

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GORDON: Speaking of nicest humans on the planet....BAM! hahahaha....
From their early start as the backing band for Bill and Gloria Gaither to working with esteemed CCM producer, Brown Bannister, the guys discuss their beginnings including touring their previous album, Emergency Broadcast.
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