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    Comedy is back: ‘The Lost City’ hits $100 million in theaters Jun 10, 2022
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    Brothers Aaron and Adam Nee are the directing-duo behind the hit movie “The Lost City,” starring Sandra Bullock, Channing Tatum, Daniel Radcliffe, and Brad Pitt. They’ve been collaborators since childhood. Adam says, “In prepping, we really get inside of each other's heads – and we just know each other so well, and have the same kind of ideas and taste, so that allows us to be on the same page on set.” And in another Disney shakeup, CEO Bob Chapek fired head of television content Peter Rice. Dana Walden is now the Chairman of Disney General Entertainment Content, where she will oversee original programming for Disney’s broadcast, cable, and streaming networks.


    Samuel L. Jackson plays dementia patient in his most personal project Jun 03, 2022
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    It took Samuel L. Jackson years to find a home for his passion project, “The Last Days of Ptolemy Grey.” He’s the star and executive producer of the miniseries, based on a novel by Walter Mosley. Apple TV+ finally stepped up, but Jackson says once the project got going, the trillion-dollar-plus company still pinched pennies when he came to them with budget requests. “You go, ‘Wait a minute, did you stop selling phones in the last hour or something? In the time we're having this conversation, you've made enough money to do this thing that I need you to do,’” Jackson says. Jackson talks about his mid-career stardom, the team he’s had around him for decades, and the bumpy road to bringing “The Last Days of Ptolemy Grey” to life.


    ‘Squid Game’ creator on the series’ global success and Netflix as a platform May 27, 2022
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    “Squid Game” creator Hwang Dong-hyuk had never written a TV series before, but after a decade conceptualizing it, he created an unprecedented global sensation. “Squid Game” is about a dystopian survival competition where hundreds of cash-strapped players aim for a multi-million dollar cash prize. The show has become No. 1 in 90 countries and the most-watched Netflix program of all time. The USC-trained filmmaker had big ambitions for the project, but was blown away by how many people worldwide are fans. “I wanted to make a global TV show. My goal was hitting number one in the U.S. Netflix rank. But I never expected this kind of big success,” he says. When Hwang proposed “Squid Game,” it was considered too weird and too violent. So while he searched for investors for that project, he directed three acclaimed films: “The Crucible,” “Miss Granny,” and “The Fortress.” In 2018, Netflix took a closer look, “got hooked,” and greenlit the show. The streaming service’s global platform gave the show visibility and a massive audience. With all the achievements, Hwang has agreed to work on season two, which could be out by the end of 2023 or 2024. And the streaming service may be spawning a “Squid Game” universe.


    ‘The Great’ creator on swearing, sex and ‘fun’ violence in 1700s Russia May 20, 2022
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    Tony McNamara's viciously satirical Hulu series “The Great” follows young Empress Catherine's adventures in her adopted country: 18th century imperial Russia. McNamara’s version is one with a lot of swearing, sex, and violence, and the series is now in production on its third season. As is typical for a streamer, Hulu doesn’t tell McNamara much about who’s watching. But he’s fine with that. “You sort of assume it’s going well because they renew it,” McNamara says. “But you're not locked into ‘what's the ratings this week? What's the data?’ So there’s a freedom in that.” McNamara talks about his fascination with Catherine the Great, working with Hulu, and how he transported a world he originally created for the theater stage to the small screen.


    Replay: Creating ‘Reservation Dogs’ with Indigenous cast and crew May 13, 2022
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    Before he co-created the FX comedy series “Reservation Dogs,” Sterlin Harjo directed three micro-budget films in his home state of Oklahoma. He had knocked on Hollywood’s door but somehow he never could find financing. "I even heard, like, this film’s just a little too Indian," Harjo says. "Or, this film’s not Indian enough. So, it was very confusing." Now, FX is preparing to release a second season of “Reservation Dogs" and the series is looking to nab Emmy nominations this year.


    Stories shouldn’t have to justify Blackness or womanness: Natasha Rothwell May 06, 2022
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    Natasha Rothwell played Kelli on HBO’s “Insecure,” and the beleaguered spa manager in “The White Lotus.” Now, she’s in the hit sequel “Sonic The Hedgehog 2.” With her own production company and an overall deal at ABC Signature, she plans to create movies and TV that skip the tired tropes and feature diverse casts. "I think so many scripts use page real estate in Act One just to justify someone's Blackness, or fatness or womanness, and then the story can start," Rothwell says. "We have to acclimate the audience to our otherness before we can tell a story, and I think that's bullshit." Natasha Rothwell talks about blossoming in the "Insecure" writers room, and says that she has big plans for her company, Big Hattie Productions.


    7-season ‘Grace and Frankie’ is Netflix unicorn of creator Marta Kauffman Apr 29, 2022
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    The longest-running original series on Netflix is coming to an end. Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin have played “Grace and Frankie” for seven seasons, telling raunchy and honest stories of older women. After co-creating “Friends,” Marta Kauffman thought up the Netflix hit “Grace and Frankie,” which made it to an unheard-of 94 episodes. While Netflix has been offering a high volume of shows, only to drop many scripted series after a couple of seasons, Kauffman is not surprised that the big-volume approach has led to problems. “We’re going to do a little bit of everything in the hopes they’ll be a niche audience for every show,” Kauffman says. “And there isn’t a niche audience for every single show.”


    ‘Dear Mr. Brody’ looks at thousands of unopened letters to a millionaire Apr 22, 2022
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    In 1970, a 21-year-old heir to a margarine fortune became a nationwide sensation when he vowed to give away his money to anyone who needed it. Michael Brody was deluged with thousands of letters, most of which sat unopened for decades, until documentarian Keith Maitland and his team decided to read them. “We started researching people, and we started tracking them down,” Maitland says. “And over and over, we kept discovering that almost nobody remembered having written these letters.” Director Keith Maitland and Executive Producer Ed Pressman talk about exploring a strange, poignant, and all but forgotten story with the film “Dear Mr. Brody.”


    Powerful Hollywood agent turns to producing ‘Pachinko’ Apr 15, 2022
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    Talent agent-turned-producer Theresa Kang Lowe had a pretty good idea of the challenges she’d face in adapting the novel “Pachinko” for television. A series almost entirely subtitled, largely set 100 years ago in Korea, with a huge budget — it wasn’t an obvious greenlight. “At the time when I was an agent and I came across a book, my job was to think about strategy. How are we gonna sell this?” Kang Lowe says. “So the immediate no’s were: period piece. The budget has to be significant for it to have scope and scale from a cinematic point of view. It also had to be an all Asian-led cast. And it had to be told in Korean, Japanese and English.” Kang Lowe was able to use her decades of experience to land the budget and support she needed at Apple. Kang Lowe discusses her career—including an interesting time as Ari Emanuel’s assistant, her rise to partner at William Morris Endeavor, and her move to become executive producer of the new Apple TV+ series “Pachinko.”


    Rerun: ‘CODA’ filmmakers on growth of Deaf representation Apr 08, 2022
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    “CODA” won three Oscars this year: Best Picture, Best Actor in a Supporting Role, and Writing (Adapted Screenplay). When making “CODA,” Marlee Matlin, who won an Oscar in 1987 for “Children of a Lesser God,” realized she was usually the only Deaf person on a set. She told KCRW in January: “I’m the one typically going to my trailer by myself, and it’s just me and my interpreter. But in all honesty, I never thought of it until I got on the set of ‘CODA’ and realized there’s a whole different world out there I’ve been missing all this time. Realizing that here I am, on the set of ‘CODA,’ in my element at lunch time, because everybody is signing. The hearing crew — they’re signing, there’s Deaf cast members, and most importantly, our director learned sign language.” KCRW reairs its conversation with director Siân Heder and Matlin. Also in a new Banter, Matt Belloni talks to Lucas Shaw about what happens now as the WarnerMedia Discovery merger is imminent.


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