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No Liquor License? No Problem. Premium Blend Cocktails Is Disrupting the Industry Pt. 1 Jul 23, 2026

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Ever wonder why your favorite neighborhood restaurant doesn't serve cocktails? Chances are it comes down to one thing: the liquor license. In many states, a full liquor license can run well into six or seven figures on the open market — making it virtually impossible for small and mid-sized venues to offer a full bar program.

That's exactly the problem Gino Santos and his brother Henry set out to solve with Premium Blend Cocktails. Their wine-based spirits are legally classified as wine — meaning any venue with a basic beer and wine license (which in Florida costs around $400) can serve them. The result? Cocktail-style drinks, no liquor license required.

In this episode, Gino explains:

Why liquor licenses are so expensive and hard to obtain
How Premium Blend products are formulated to qualify legally as wine
The difference between a liquor license and a beer-and-wine license — and why it matters for thousands of venues
How his family escaped Cuba thanks to an uncle who literally stole a boat
Growing up bilingual in Newark and Miami with a famous Cuban singer-songwriter father

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NYC Wine Bar to San Francisco: How Maryse Cracked the Wine Code Pt. 2 Jul 22, 2026

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Some people are trained into wine. Maryse Chevriere talked her way in on pure enthusiasm — and it turned out to be the perfect qualification. In this episode she tells Forrest Kelly how a manager went to bat for her despite her being "green," echoing the philosophy her chef husband lives by: give him someone hungry to learn over someone he'd have to un-train.

From there, Maryse walks through the pivot that shaped her path — leaving New York not because she'd outgrown the wine bar, but because she was ready for a new experience and drawn to the easy access to wine country that San Francisco offered. She admits she wasn't overthinking the cross-country move in her late 20s, which she figures is exactly the right way to make big decisions: try it, and change course if it doesn't work.

The conversation lingers on a standout wine-country memory — a Napa producer pouring an unexpectedly aromatic Grignolino, a grape you rarely see, that felt gloriously out of type for the region — though her heart belongs to cooler-climate Sonoma Pinot.

Then Forrest turns to the main event: How to Sound Wine Smart. Maryse explains how her Instagram account revealed that wine's real barrier isn't the wine — it's the language. People freeze at the shop or restaurant, unsure what they're being sold, and just nod along. Most wine books bury terminology in a tiny glossary at the back; she wanted to flip that, building a fun, visual, genuinely useful resource that reads like a friend talking over a glass rather than a textbook. Forrest praises the book's approachable breakdowns — like how to actually taste a glass of wine — and Maryse sums up her whole mission in a sentence: make it easy to digest, and make it sound human.

For the Wine-Curious listener, this one's a permission slip: you don't need to be trained, and you don't need to fake it. You just need the right words.

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The Chef Who Turned Cancer Into a Culinary Calling — Quiz Edition Jul 21, 2026

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Grab your scorecard, wine lovers — Rusty Cellars is popping the quiz on one of the most fascinating guests in show history. Chef Chuck Hayworth spent 35 years in professional kitchens before a rare stomach cancer diagnosis changed everything, launching a private chef career that began when fellow patients in his therapy group asked him to cook for them. In this two-round, ten-question challenge, Rusty tests your memory on Chuck's go-to Niçoise salad dressed with cold-pressed Georgia olive oil, his resort chef tasting menu based in Boone, North Carolina at the foot of the Blue Ridge Mountains, and the brilliant pairing of a Yadkin Valley orange wine from Hanover Park with slow-braised short ribs. You'll also revisit his four-cheat-days-a-month philosophy of sustainable healthy eating, his 2014 book The Chef's Recovery, his observations on entire generations opting out of alcohol after Covid, and his last-meal-on-earth answer: a margherita pizza and his finest bottle of French wine, shared with the people he loves. Plus a bonus question about uncrustables that had to be heard to be believed. Score yourself, share your results, and remember — life's too short for bad wine and wrong answers.

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How to Sound Wine Smart — The Author Behind the Book Tells All Pt. 1 Jul 20, 2026

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Maryse Chevriere's wine story doesn't follow a straight line — and that's exactly what makes it worth hearing. In this first installment, the author of How to Sound Wine Smart (out now from Simon Element) tells Forrest how a food-website waiter with an affinity for drinks talked her way into the wine world.

Maryse opens up about her three months working the harvest at a Domaine in Alsace — no real paycheck, but all the wine she could drink and a hands-on crash course she calls the best "fall camp" of her life. From literally stomping grapes to learning alongside fans, pros, and travelers from around the world, it cemented her identity as a hands-on, visual learner.

Then there's Terroir Wine Bar in New York City, where owner Paul Greco took a chance on her. With around 50 wines by the glass — every white a Riesling — Terroir taught Maryse the art of the confident pivot: you want a Chardonnay? Here's a Riesling that fits the bill. More importantly, it taught her how to talk about wine in a way that's fun, not snobby — the philosophy that now defines her work and her new book.

Also in this episode: surviving life with a 10-month-old until that first evening glass, why there's zero shame in a Trader Joe's bottle, and why getting paid in wine is a very real industry tradition.

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N. Carolina's Medical Meal Chef Reveals His Last Meal on Earth Pt. 1-6 Jul 16, 2026

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Chef Chuck's 26-year journey from kitchen cook to medical meal chef after a rare stomach cancer diagnosis

How cancer treatment forced him to relearn the four basic tastes and rebuild his palate from scratch

The difference between medically-ordered diet clients and "longevity" wellness clients

Why he stocks healthier snacks like date-almond bites instead of processed convenience food

His approach to making healthier "uncrustables" for kids using sourdough, chia, and seasonal fruit

The post-COVID shift away from alcohol and how he adapts with mocktails and fermented non-alcoholic beverages

Inside his Yadkin Valley spring tasting menu at The Resort Chef in Boone, NC

How he found the perfect orange wine from Hanover Park to pair with a 6-hour stewed short rib

His pushback strategy when clients are resistant to wine pairings or stuck on sweet wines only

Upcoming books: the C5 Longevity Cuisine Cookbook and a Hidden Vegetable cookbook

His PhD in progress and what's next for Real Medical Meals, The Resort Chef, and Thankfully Local Private Chefs

The "last meal on Earth" question — margarita pizza, a great French bottle, and a comet

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Back Label - The Payphone Call That Saved Journey's Biggest Hit Jul 15, 2026

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Before "Don't Stop Believin'" filled stadiums, it lived in a notebook. Jonathan Cain was out of money and out of hope when he called his father from a Los Angeles payphone and asked if he should give up. The advice he got back sat in that notebook for a year — until Cain joined Journey and the band needed one more track for their album Escape. In this episode, we break down how Steve Perry turned a father's encouragement into a masterpiece: why he chose "South Detroit," a place that doesn't exist, purely because it sang better; how the song shattered songwriting convention by holding its chorus until the final 50 seconds; and how the band captured the instrumental live in a single take at Fantasy Studios. From the Sopranos finale to the National Recording Registry at the Library of Congress, this is the story behind the anthem that refused to fade — told in five minutes, no filler.

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The Comet, the Pizza, the Wine: Chef Chuck's Perfect Last Supper Pt. 6 Jul 14, 2026

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Chef Chuck Hayworth wraps up this conversation by getting personal about why he does what he does — sharing the joy of medical meals and longevity cuisine with people who need it most. He leans into the old Southern saying "you are what you eat," explaining how it shapes every pairing and every plate he creates. He talks about how North Carolina's seasonal diversity, from spring berries to farmers market produce, keeps his menus constantly evolving throughout the year.

Then comes the fun part: the classic last-meal-on-Earth question. Chuck doesn't hesitate, picturing a margarita pizza fresh out of the oven, shared with family and his closest people, paired with the nicest bottle of French wine in his collection, all while watching a comet streak across the sky.

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Boone's Farm at the Drive-In to Château Pétrus — The Wine Coach's Incredible Journey Pt. 1-4 Jul 10, 2026

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Laurie Forster has always used humor to disarm people — it's a skill she traces all the way back to growing up in New Jersey, where you learn fast that a sharp wit is your best defense. On this episode of The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast, Laurie shares how that instinct, combined with a supply chain degree from Penn State, a high-stakes career in Fortune 100 tech sales, and a terrifying night performing stand-up comedy at the DC Improv, quietly assembled everything she needed to become The Wine Coach.

Her one-woman show, Something to Whine About, is unlike anything else in wine education. Audiences arrive to find a flight of wines waiting at their seats and leave having competed in the Cork Dork Challenge, earned their drinking names, and watched a self-proclaimed wine snob get gently humbled by Laurie's blind smell test. The show has played Caesars Atlantic City, Caroline's on Broadway, and the HBO Women in Comedy Festival, where Laurie took over a Boston theater and ran a live wine tasting during intermission.

Off stage, Laurie hosts The Sipping Point, a weekly podcast featuring chefs, winemakers, and culinary personalities. She leads international wine tours to destinations including Bordeaux and Tuscany, and her free Wine Coach app (available on iPhone and Android) puts her wine picks, podcast, and Q&A access in one place. For upcoming shows, tours, and her newsletter, visit thewinecoach.com. Find her on Instagram and Threads at @thewinecoach and on Facebook as The Wine Coach.

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A Wine Tasting at a Rodeo in S. Dakota — It Was Better Than You'd Think Pt. 4 Jul 09, 2026

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Wine tastings at rodeos. The Hank Williams Museum. A first sip of Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill at the drive-in. In the final part of her conversation, Laurie Forster wraps up one of the most entertaining and wide-ranging wine conversations the show has ever hosted — and she saves some of the best material for last.

Laurie's corporate tasting work has brought her to venues she never put on her bucket list and wouldn't trade for anything. Through all of it, her mission has never wavered: help people think different and drink different by trusting their own taste rather than deferring to wine culture's unwritten rulebook. While she's tasted bottles most wine lovers only dream about — Château Pétrus, Barolo, aged Sauternes — what genuinely excites her most is tracking down a killer wine under $25 and sharing it with an audience who didn't know it existed.

Find Laurie on Instagram and Threads at @thewinecoach, on Facebook as The Wine Coach, and download her free Wine Coach app on iPhone or Android for wine picks, podcast access, and direct Q&A. Upcoming shows, tours, and events live at thewinecoach.com. And as Laurie would say — Cheers.

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Dinner Guest Who Got It So Wrong, Chef Chuck Had to Step In Pt. 5 Jul 09, 2026

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Chef Chuck's method for finding out why a client is resistant to wine

Mocktail and kombucha alternatives for clients avoiding alcohol

The cardiovascular benefits of resveratrol in red wine, in moderation

Why his tasting pours are kept small — four ounces or less, down to 2.5 oz for dessert wines

The real purpose of a wine pairing: accenting the food, not overpowering it

A story about a dinner guest who pushed back hard against the chef's fixed wine pairing menu

How 30 years in the industry shaped his approach to expanding guests' palates

Why eastern North Carolina diners tend to prefer sweeter wines like muscadine and moscato

Using blueberry and strawberry wines as a bridge for sweet-wine-only clients

Early signs of success this spring in shifting client palates toward the full tasting experience

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