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    The Art World: What If…?!

    What if we reimagined everything in culture, from painting to patronage? Tune in to The Art World: What If…?! to hear leading thinkers, creators and innovators in art rethink the system, exploring the consequences with wit, wisdom and humor.

    Join art journalist Charlotte Burns and world-renowned art advisor Allan Schwartzman as they exclusively interview museum leaders, collectors and artists including MoMA director Glenn Lowry, Guggenheim deputy director Naomi Beckwith, non-profit leader Kemi Ilesanmi, curator Cecilia Alemani and Sandra Jackson-Dumont, the director of the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art and many others over the course of the series.

    From the team behind In Other Words and Hope & Dread, The Art World: What If…?! is brought to you by Schwartzman& for Art& and produced by Studio Burns.

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    The Art World: In Other Words, Norman Rosenthal on Seducing the Audience Feb 08, 2018
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    During his 31 years as the exhibitions secretary at London's Royal Academy, Sir Norman Rosenthal staged groundbreaking exhibitions of art including the legendary show, "A New Spirit in Painting" (1981), which brought artists such as Joseph Beuys, Gerhard Richter and Georg Baselitz to broader recognition.

    "Art is entertainment, but entertainment in the best sense of the word," he says in our latest podcast, speaking to host Charlotte Burns. "Museums, in the end, are like cupboards. And with the contents of the cupboards you have to try and make beautiful things—exhibitions that can tell with genuine artifacts aspects of the great story of art and human civilization."

    Since leaving the RA in 2008, Rosenthal has organized exhibitions and written essays for a number of organizations such as Gagosian, the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford and Galerie Thaddaeus Ropac ("If you're freelance, you are a kind of whore—but you can choose your clients," he says).

    No stranger to controversy, Rosenthal talks us through his views on restitution and commerce ("the best dealers are nearly always ahead of the best curator. You name a curator who's really made a really serious decision about "the future", he says) and tells us where he finds great art today.

    Transcript: http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-norman-rosenthal/

    "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.


    The Art World: In Other Words, Infinity and Beyond with Artist Tavares Strachan Jan 25, 2018
    Show notes

    Whether hauling ice from the Arctic, partnering with SpaceX or training as a deep-sea diver, the artist Tavares Strachan works on an ambitious scale—often at the cutting edge of technology. He largely operates beyond the gallery model, instead relying on patrons, partnerships and collaborations to create innovative works of art.

    The Bahamian-born artist, who was recently appointed to the MIT and RISD boards, is interested in overlooked or forgotten histories and "operating in a state of play". His work ranges from multimedia installations to large-scale earthworks and is often an exercise in creative problem solving. Speaking to our host Charlotte Burns, he says: "If there's a way that art can actually affect the way we think about the world, it is forcing us to think about the gray, about where we overlap and how we're actually the same. If we spend more time focusing on that as an exercise, we may be able to move some immovable ideas."

    Transcript: http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-tavares-strachan/

    "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.


    The Art World: In Other Words, Authority and Anxiety with MoMA Director Glenn Lowry Jan 11, 2018
    Show notes

    "In the particular political moment in which we live, the question of authority and voice has become increasingly important," says Glenn Lowry, director of MoMA. "Who has the right to speak for whom? How do we imagine someone else's voice?"

    In this wide-ranging conversation, Lowry describes the museum as a crucible during a "very flammable moment" and talks about the role of culture today. He discusses technology at the museum and the value of thinking slowly. Talking with host Charlotte Burns, Lowry covers various topics including MoMA's expansion, the possibilities of closer institutional collaboration, the importance of anxiety—and lots more besides.

    Transcript: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-22-transcript-glenn-lowry/

    "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.


    The Art World: In Other Words, Emerging Art with Whitney Biennial Curator Christopher Y. Lew Dec 14, 2017
    Show notes

    "We're in a moment where we are all paying attention to what's going on in the headlines. Many artists are thinking about what kind of world their work is entering into, and how to respond to or deal with the times we live in," says Christopher Y. Lew, co-curator of the 2017 Whitney Biennial, who talks about his travels across America researching emerging art for the biennial.

    For a transcript of the show, click here: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-21-transcript-christopher-y-lew-talks-emerging-art/

    "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.


    The Art World: In Other Words, Art and Desire with Walter Robinson Nov 30, 2017
    Show notes

    Artist Walter Robinson immortalizes appetites and desires in his work, painting beer, blue jeans and burgers, magazine models and pulpy paperback romances. Known as the founding editor of Artnet magazine, where he worked from 1996 until 2012, Robinson has been a habitual chronicler of the New York art world. He first flirted with success as an artist in the 1980s, making nurse paintings before Richard Prince and spin paintings before Damien Hirst. But, then, he stopped making art. Over the past few years he has returned to painting and, today, we talk to him about his many lives.

    For a transcript of the show, click here: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-20-transcript-walter-robinson/

    "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.


    The Art World: In Other Words, Talking Art with Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman Nov 16, 2017
    Show notes

    From "Poor Art" to politics in art, in this wide-ranging conversation between curator and art historian Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman address topics including the ways in which the American art market has defined art history; how they work with artists to realize wildly ambitious projects; the difficulties in determining whether works are authentic; corruption in art; and rewriting the history of art. For this, and much more, tune in today.

    For a transcript, click here: bit.ly/IOWEp19

    "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.


    The Art World: In Other Words, The Suit and the Sweater Nov 02, 2017
    Show notes

    The art industry is changing rapidly and, in this episode, Tad Smith (president and CEO of Sotheby's) and Allan Schwartzman discuss how they respond to the challenges and opportunities that this presents. Bringing different perspectives to the conversation, they discuss how to create change and foster innovation.

    "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.

    For a transcript, click here: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-18-transcript-tad-smith-allan-schwartzman/


    The Art World: In Other Words, with Gilbert & George Oct 19, 2017
    Show notes

    "The strength of two people together is enormous. That's why, all over the world, people and creatures are divided into two." Artists Gilbert & George have been creating "Art for All" since they met as students in the 1960s. "In the old days, when we were socially involved with artists, they always would tell you they're always nervous of what to do next. We never had that problem. We were always really ready for whatever," say the inimitable duo during this lively discussion about their work, their habits and their artistic philosophies.

    "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.

    For a full transcript, click here: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-17-transcript-gilbert-george/


    The Art World: In Other Words, Contemporary African Art Oct 05, 2017
    Show notes

    "Romare Bearden was asked in a 1972 interview with Camille Billops how he would define black art, and he said that black art is the art that black artists do," says Tate's Zoe Whitley. "If someone were to say: 'What is white art?' you might say the Italian Renaissance, but you could equally say the German Renaissance, Rembrandt or English painting. Black art is as varied as that."

    Joining us in London to discuss contemporary African art are Zoe Whitley, the curator and writer Osei Bonsu, and Sotheby's Hannah O'Leary. In a broad-ranging conversation, we cover the challenges of bringing more recognition to artists who have lived or worked on the Continent or been part of its diaspora.

    "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.

    For a full transcript, click here: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-16-transcript-contemporary-african-art/


    The Art World: In Other Words, Lust for Life—Collecting Art with Herbert Lust Sep 21, 2017
    Show notes

    A literature professor and Fulbright scholar turned investment banker, 90-year old Herbert Lust has one of the leading collections of works by artists including Alberto Giacometti, Robert Indiana and Hans Bellmer, among others.

    Lust, who in 1969 wrote one of the first books about art collecting as an investment, talks to our host Charlotte Burns about his extraordinary life, discussing his friendships with artists and passing along some advice for collectors.

    "Robert Indiana: Works from the Collection of Herbert Lust" is on show at S|2 Gallery from 8 September until 6 October

    "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.


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