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    The Art of Manliness

    The Art of Manliness Podcast aims to deepen and improve every area of a man’s life, from fitness and philosophy, to relationships and productivity. Engaging and edifying interviews with some of the world’s most interesting doers and thinkers drop the fluff and filler to glean guests’ very best, potentially life-changing, insights.

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    The Cold Water Swim Cure May 09, 2022
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    Have you ever driven along the coastline, or walked by a local pond or lake and thought about taking a dip, but felt hesitant about swimming in what you know is cold water? My guest today, who argues that cold water swimming is one of the very best things you can do for your mental and physical health, will inspire you to finally take the plunge.

    His name is Dr. Mark Harper and he’s an anesthesiologist and the author of Chill: The Cold Water Swim Cure. We begin our conversation with how Mark’s research into the prevention of hypothermia during surgery led him to investigate the benefits of cold water exposure in managing the body’s overall stress response. We discuss the effect cold water has on the body, and the potential mental and physical benefits this effect can have, from reducing inflammation, to reducing depression caused by inflammation, to improving conditions from diabetes to migraines. We get into how long you need to be in the water to get these benefits, and the temperature the water needs to be, which may not be as cold as you think, and potentially makes, depending on where you live, cold water swimming viable as a year-round practice. Mark also explains how to get started with cold water swimming, and do it safely and effectively, including why you should start in the summer, and how best to prepare your body before you get in the water and recover after you get out of it. We end our conversation with whether or not you can get the same benefits of cold water swimming from taking an ice bath or cold shower.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • AoM Article: Semper Virilis — A Roadmap to Manhood in the 21st Century
    • AoM Podcast #585: Inflammation, Saunas, and the New Science of Depression
    • Podcast #275: How Your Climate-Controlled Comfort Is Killing You
    • On Airs, Waters, and Places by Hippocrates
    • Richard Russell
    • Jill Bolte Taylor’s TED talk
    • Mike Tipton’s research
    • BBC documentary, The Doctor Who Gave Up Drugs
    • AoM article on the benefits of cold showers
    • Organizations Mark works with that promote cold water swimming:
      • Mental Health Swims
      • Chill
      • SeaSure

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    The 5 Allies Every Man Needs May 04, 2022
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    When it comes to improving our lives and reaching our goals, we often think of changing our personal habits and routines. We think about ourselves, but don’t look outside ourselves. But my guest would say that if we really want to change and make progress, we also need to surround ourselves with positive, strengthening people, and in particular, five types of “allies of glory” who can truly help us be our best.

    His name is Antonio Neves and he’s an author, speaker, podcaster, and success coach. Today on the show, Antonio and I discuss the importance of relationships in moving us forward in our personal and career goals, the difference between allies who facilitate that progress and the thieves who hinder it, and how to minimize the influence that the latter have on us. We then get into the five kinds of allies Antonio says we need in our lives, and he unpacks what each of these allies offers. We end our conversation with Antonio’s advice for how to find these allies and expand your social and professional networks.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • Antonio’s previous appearance on the podcast: #676 — Stop Living on Autopilot and Take Responsibility for Your Life
    • Sunday Firesides: Relationships Over Willpower
    • AoM Article: How to Cut Toxic People Out of Your Life
    • AoM Podcast #559: How to Handle Difficult Conversations
    • AoM Podcast #403: A Better Way to Network
    • AoM Article: The Cabinet of Invisible Counselors
    Connect With Antonio Neves
    • Antonio’s Website
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    Getting Along Is Overrated May 02, 2022
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    A lot of people really dislike conflict and have a low opinion of it. They're uncomfortable with disagreements at the office, think there's no room for contention at church, worry that fighting with their partner means their relationship is destined to dissolve, and generally feel that heated arguments tear communities apart.

    My guest today, Ian Leslie, used to be one of these conflict-averse people. But as he discovered in researching his new book, Conflicted: How Productive Disagreements Lead to Better Outcomes, conflict not only brings us together, the lack of it, he says, just plain makes us stupider. Today on the show, Ian and I discuss why people get the idea that conflict is unproductive from watching online arguments and why these flame wars aren't actually indicative of the value of arguing offline. We then delve into this surprising value, from the way conflict makes us smarter, to how couples who have heated arguments are actually happier. Ian unpacks some of the myths around difficult conversations, such as the idea that they have to be done in a strictly rational and unemotional way to be fruitful, and he offers ways to approach conflict that will make it more productive, especially remembering to always prioritize the relationship above all.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • AoM Article: The Rationality of Emotions
    • AoM Podcast #559: How to Handle Difficult Conversations
    • Podcast #648: Lessons in Building Rapport from Experts in Terrorist Interrogation (With Laurence Alison)
    • reddit — Change My View
    Connect with Kevin Maurer
    • Ian's Website
    • Ian on Twitter

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    The Harrowing Life of a World War II B-17 Pilot Apr 27, 2022
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    “We were young citizen-soldiers, terribly naive and gullible about what we would be confronted with in the air war over Europe and the profound effect it would have upon every fiber of our being for the rest of our lives. We were all afraid, but it was beyond our power to quit. We volunteered for the service and, once trained and overseas, felt we had no choice but to fulfill the mission assigned. My hope is that this book honors the men with whom I served by telling the truth about what it took to climb into the cold blue and fight for our lives over and over again.”

    So writes the 100-year-old World War II veteran John “Lucky” Luckadoo in the new book he co-authored with Kevin Maurer: Damn Lucky: One Man’s Courage During the Bloodiest Military Campaign in Aviation History. Kevin is my guest today, and will share Lucky’s story, and with it, the story of WWII’s famous B-17 bomber.

    During the war, airmen in the 100th Bomb Group could finish their combat service and return home after flying 25 missions. Yet with a 1 in 10 chance of becoming a casualty, few were able to reach this milestone. Lucky was one of the, well, lucky few who did, and Kevin traces how he got there, from trying to join the Royal Canadian Air Force as a teenager, to learning to fly the B-17 on the job, to his harrowing daylight bombing missions over Germany, to the life he made for himself after the war. Along the way, Kevin describes the brutal conditions inside a B-17 and the bomber’s role in winning the war.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • The Bomber Mafia by Malcolm Gladwell
    • Memphis Belle
    • Norden bombsight
    • Video tour of B-17 G model
    Connect with Kevin Maurer
    • Kevin’s Website

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    Overcome the Decision Traps Around Diet and Exercise Apr 25, 2022
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    When it comes to making behavior change around diet and exercise, it's no secret that many people fail in their efforts. My guest would say that's because too often we only concentrate on the things that drive us towards that change — whether willpower, or motivation, or the rewards that turn behaviors into habits — and that we need to think more about the obstacles keeping us from making the decisions we desire.

    Her name is Michelle Segar and she's a behavioral science researcher and health coach, as well as the author of The Joy Choice: How to Finally Achieve Lasting Changes in Eating and Exercise. Today on the show, Michelle explains why exercise and eating aren't conducive to becoming habits — at least of the automatic variety — and why it's more helpful to think of these behaviors in terms of "life space" and "choice points." She makes the case for why we shouldn't just focus on what drives behaviors, but also understand what disrupts them, and unpacks four of these disruptors: temptation, rebellion, accommodation, and perfection. Michelle then offers a three-step decision tool for dealing with these disruptors, and explains how to develop the flexibility to choose the perfect imperfect option that keeps you consistent and even celebrate and enjoy the decision to do something instead of nothing.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • Michelle's previous appearance on the show — Podcast #575: Counterintuitive Advice on Making Exercise a Sustainable Habit
    • AoM Article: How I Finally Made Flossing a Habit
    • AoM Podcast #782: Anxiety Is a Habit — Here’s How to Break It (With Judson Brewer)
    • Kurt Lewin
    • Freakonomics episode that includes Daniel Kahneman referencing Lewin
    • Grounded cognition
    • Affective–Reflective Theory of physical inactivity and exercise
    Connect With Michelle Segar
    • Michelle's Website

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    The Life We’re Looking For Apr 20, 2022
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    In the quiet moments of our lives, we can all sense that our hearts long for something, though we often don’t know what that something is. We seek an answer in our phones, and while they can provide some sense of extension and fulfillment — a feeling of magic — the use of technology also comes with significant costs in individual development and interpersonal connection that we typically don’t fully understand and consider.

    My guest today will unpack what it is we really yearn for, how technology, when misused, can direct us away from the path to fulfilling those yearnings, and how we can find true human flourishing in a world in which so much works against it. His name is Andy Crouch and he’s the author of The Life We’re Looking For: Reclaiming Relationship in a Technological World. Today on the show we talk about the tradeoffs you make when you seek magic without mastery, and how we can understand our desires better once we understand ourselves as heart, soul, mind, and strength complexes who want to be loved and known. We discuss the difference between interactions that are personal versus personalized, as well as the difference between devices and instruments, and how to use your phone as the latter instead of the former. We end our conversation with why Andy thinks we need to redesign the architecture of our relational lives and create something he calls “households.”

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • Faust by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
    • Wendell Berry
    • AoM article on Plato’s idea of the tripartite nature of the soul
    • AoM Podcast #723: Men Without Chests
    • AoM Article: The Tool Works on Both Ends
    • AoM Article: Communities vs. Networks — To Which Do You Belong?
    Connect With Andy Crouch
    • Andy’s Website
    • Praxis Labs

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    The U-Shaped Curve of Happiness Apr 18, 2022
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    If you're someone who's a decade or two out from your high school graduation, do you ever find yourself thinking that you're just not as happy as you were back then? Of course all the positive-thinking self-talk then kicks in and you think, "Well, maybe I actually wasn't that happy before. I do like my life better now. I like the independence I have. Yeah, yeah, I really like being an adult." Yet, no matter the glass-half-full glow you try to put on things, you can't shake the feeling that your happiness has declined over the years, that at 30, you weren't as happy as you were at 20, and that at 40, you weren't as happy as you were when you were 30.

    Well, that feeling is more than a nostalgic hunch, and it's not unique to you. It's actually been born out by hundreds of research papers and studies and shown to be a near-universal experience. My guest today has authored many of those papers. His name is Dr. David Branchflower and he's a labor economist who not only studies the data around money and jobs, but also around human happiness. Today on the show David explains how happiness follows a U-shaped curve, and starts declining around age 18, and continues to fall into midlife, before picking back up again, and David shares the average age at which happiness hits its very lowest point. While it's not entirely clear why the U-shape of happiness occurs, we talk about some possible reasons behind it. And while the U-shape is consistent across the world, it can be lower or higher, and so we discuss how factors like gender, socio-economic and martial status, and having children affect happiness, and whether it's possible to mitigate the dip.

    While the fact that it won't be until your mid-60s that you feel as happy as you were at age 18 might seem depressing, David argues that it's comforting to know that the feelings of declining happiness you experience at you approach midlife are normal, and will not only pass one day, but start moving in the other direction.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • "Is Happiness U-Shaped Everywhere?" — one of the main research papers on the happiness curve that David has authored
    • David's book Not Working: Where Have All the Good Jobs Gone?
    • Deaths of Despair and the Future of Capitalism by Anne Case and Angus Deaton
    • Study on great apes having a midlife crisis
    • AoM Series: The Seasons of a Man's Life
    • AoM Podcast #776: How to Shift Out of the Midlife Malaise
    • AoM Article: The Economics of Happiness
    Connect With David Branchflower
    • David's Faculty Page at Dartmouth (includes links to his research)

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    The Rise, Fall, and Redemption of Johnny Cash Apr 13, 2022
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    Johnny Cash, “The Man in Black,” said he wore all black on behalf of the poor and hungry, the old who were neglected, “the “prisoner who has long paid for his crime,” and those betrayed by drugs. As a man who had grown up dirt poor, struggled his whole life with addiction, was thrown in jail seven times, and found himself in the proverbial wilderness during a long stretch of his career, Cash had a real heart for these kinds of folks; he was a man who had lived numerous ups and downs himself.

    Marshall Terrill, co-author of Johnny Cash: The Redemption of an American Icon, will take us through these biographical peaks and valleys today. We talk about Cash’s hardscrabble upbringing on a cotton farm, his unfulfilled desire to please his father, and how his rise into stardom was accompanied by the arrival of a set of personal demons. We also discuss how, after becoming the top entertainer in the world, Cash’s career slid into two decades of music industry irrelevance, the big comeback he made near the end of his life, and the faith that sustained him through all his struggles and triumphs.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • Marshall’s previous appearance on the show: Episode #673 — The Complex Coolness of Steve McQueen
    • Cash songs mentioned in the show:
      • “Walk the Line”
      • “Boy Named Sue”
      • “One Piece at a Time”
      • “Chicken in Black”
      • “Hurt”
      • “The Wanderer” (song Cash did with U2)
    • Man in White — novel Cash wrote about the Apostle Paul
    • Walk the Line movie
    Connect With Marshall Terrill
    • Marshall’s Page at ASU

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    The New Science of Metabolism and Weight Loss Apr 11, 2022
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    You hear a lot about metabolism. You probably know it has something to do with weight loss. And even if you don't go in for those supposed hacks around speeding up your metabolism, you likely figure you can at least increase it by exercising more.

    This isn't actually the case, and my guest will sort through this and other misconceptions around metabolism on today's show. His name is Dr. Herman Pontzer and he's a professor of evolutionary anthropology and the author of Burn: New Research Blows the Lid Off How We Really Burn Calories, Lose Weight, and Stay Healthy. We begin our conversation with an overview of how metabolism powers everything your body does from thinking to moving to simply existing, and how it uses the food you eat as the energy needed to fuel these processes. We then get into Herman's field research which shows that increasing your physical activity doesn't actually increase the number of calories you burn, but why it's still hugely important to exercise anyway. He also unpacks whether certain kinds of foods are better for your metabolism, offers his recommendations on how to use diet to lose weight, and answers the common question as to whether it's true that your metabolism goes down as you age.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • AoM Podcast #691: What You Can (Really) Learn About Exercise from Your Human Ancestors
    • AoM Podcast #552: How to Optimize Your Metabolism
    • AoM Podcast #475: How to Lose Weight, and Keep It Off Forever
    • AoM Podcast #636: Why You Overeat and What to Do About It
    • NYT article on what happened to the metabolisms of Biggest Loser contestants after the show
    • AoM Article: An Argument for Making Exercise (Not Diet) the Foundation of Weight Management
    Connect With Herman Pontzer
    • Herman on Twitter
    • Herman's faculty page and lab at Duke

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    How Power Corrupts Apr 06, 2022
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    Why do corrupt people end up in power?

    By way of an answer, you probably think of that famous quote from Lord Acton, "Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely." But my guest today, Brian Klaas, would say that's only one part of what leads to corrupt individuals and cultures, the other being that people who are already corrupt are more likely to seek power in the first place. Brian argues that if we ever hope to develop better systems, from our national governments to our office hierarchies, we have to work on both prongs of this dynamic, not only preventing people who gain power from going bad, but encouraging good people to seek power as well.

    Brian is the author of Corruptible: Who Gets Power and How It Changes Us, and today on the show, he and I discuss how people who possess the so-called "dark triad" of traits are more attracted to positions of power, how the framing around those positions can either amplify or alter this self-selection effect, and what a tyrannical homeowners' association president and a psychopathic school janitor show us about these dynamics. We also discuss why power does indeed corrupt people and can in fact change their very brain chemistry. Brian explains the importance of accountability in keeping a system clean, and how you can serve in positions of power without becoming corrupted yourself.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • AoM Podcast #108: The Upside of Your Dark Side
    • AoM Podcast #769: The New Science of Narcissism
    • Michael Nader's study on social status in monkeys
    • M.G. Marmot's Whitehall II study on social status and mortality
    • AoM series on status
    • Ultrasociety by Peter Turchin
    Connect With Brian Klass
    • Brian's Website
    • Brian’s podcast, Power Corrupts

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