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    The Art of Manliness

    The Art of Manliness Podcast aims to deepen and improve every area of a man’s life, from fitness and philosophy, to relationships and productivity. Engaging and edifying interviews with some of the world’s most interesting doers and thinkers drop the fluff and filler to glean guests’ very best, potentially life-changing, insights.

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    Walden on Wheels: A Man, a Debt, and an American Adventure Apr 08, 2024
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    Millions of young adults know what it's like to graduate from college with student debt. For some, it's a frustrating annoyance. For others, it's a worry-inducing burden. For Ken Ilgunas, it was a dragon in need of slaying and a pathway to adventure.

    Ken is the author of Walden on Wheels: On the Open Road from Debt to Freedom, and today on the show, he shares the story of how his quest to erase his debt led him to the Arctic Circle and through the peaks and valleys of living a totally unshackled life. Ken explains why he went to Alaska to work as a truckstop burger flipper and park ranger to pay off his student debt, what it's like to hitchhike across the country, how reading Thoreau's Walden got him questioning how we live our lives, and how that inspiration led him to living in his van while attending grad school at Duke. Along the way, Ken shares his meditations on nonconformity, engaging in romantic pursuits, and the benefits of both de-institutionalizing and re-institutionalizing your life.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • Walden by Henry David Thoreau
    • AoM Podcast #841: What People Get Wrong About Walden
    • AoM Podcast #473: The Solitude of a Fire Watcher
    • AoM Article: How to Hitchhike Around the USA
    • Sunday Firesides: The Cost of a Thing
    Connect With Ken Ilgunas
    • Ken's website

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    How to Create a Distraction-Free Phone Apr 03, 2024
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    Jake Knapp loves tech. He grew up using Apple II and then Mac computers, browsing bulletin boards, and making his own games. As an adult, he worked at Microsoft on the Encarta CD-ROM, before being hired by Google, where he worked on Gmail, co-founded Google Meet, and created Google Ventures' Design Sprint process. Today, he's a venture capitalist and consultant for start-ups, as well as a writer.

    But, if Jake was an early adopter and booster of the upsides of technology, he was also early in sensing its not-so-positive side effects. Twelve years ago, unhappy with the pull his smartphone was exerting on him, he decided to curb its distractions. He continues to use this distraction-free phone today.

    Today on the show, I talk to Jake about what motivated him to change his relationship with his phone over a decade ago and what steps he took to do so, including how and why he lives life without a web browser or email app on his phone. We get into what realizations about work and life Jake's gotten from having a distraction-free phone, why he doesn't think using tools like Screen Time or a dumbphone are always the best solutions to reducing the phone itch, and how he also cuts down on distractions on his desktop computer.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • Make Time: How to Focus on What Matters Every Day by Jake Knapp and John Zeratsky
    • Sprint: How to Solve Big Problems and Test New Ideas in Just Five Days by Jake Knapp
    • AoM Podcast #450: How to Make Time for What Really Matters Every Day With John Zeratsky
    • AoM Podcast #972: Down With Pseudo-Productivity: Why We Need to Transform the Way We Work With Cal Newport
    • AoM Article: The Complete Guide to Breaking Your Smartphone Habit
    • AoM Article: 5 Concrete Ways to Develop a Healthier Relationship With Your Phone (No Blocking or Deleting Apps Required!)
    • AoM Podcast #420: What Makes Your Phone So Addictive & How to Take Back Your Life
    • Freedom app
    • How We Feel app
    • Light Phone II
    • Time Timer
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    • Jake's website

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    Want to Be Happy? Give Yourself Reasons to Admire Yourself Apr 01, 2024
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    Happiness and depression can feel like slippery and befuddling things. We can do the things we've been told will make us happy, while still not feeling satisfied. Or, on paper, our lives can look great, yet we feel depressed. And the advice that's out there about these states doesn't always seem to correspond to our lived experience.

    Ryan Bush has created a new map he thinks can help us make better sense of life. Ryan is a systems designer with a long-standing interest in psychology and philosophy, the founder of Designing the Mind, a self-development organization, and an author. His latest book is Become Who You Are: A New Theory of Self-Esteem, Human Greatness, and the Opposite of Depression. Today on the show, Ryan explains the two dimensions along which we usually plot our happiness, and what he thinks is the missing third dimension: virtue or admirability. Ryan then unpacks his "virtue self-signaling theory" which he thinks can heighten happiness and reduce depression, and which is premised on the idea that if you want to live a flourishing life, you have to give yourself reasons to admire yourself. I really think this is a valuable idea that everyone can get something from and recommend listening through.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • Full and Brief Strengths Tests
    • AoM Podcast #249: The Benefits of Pride
    • AoM Article: The 11 Cognitive Distortions That Are Making You a Miserable SOB
    • Mind Over Mood by Dennis Greenberger
    • Feeling Good by David Burns
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    • Designing the Mind website

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    Tips From a Hostage Negotiator on Handling Difficult Conversations Mar 27, 2024
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    In resolving hundreds of kidnap-for-ransom cases involving gang leaders, pirates, and extortionists, Scott Walker, a former Scotland Yard detective, has learned a thing or two about how to negotiate and communicate in a crisis. He shares how to apply those lessons to the difficult conversations we all have in our everyday lives in his book Order Out of Chaos: Win Every Negotiation, Thrive in Adversity, and Become a World-Class Communicator, and we talk about his tips on today's show.

    Scott and I discuss what a "red center" means in a kidnap-for-ransom scenario and how to create one in your personal life, the "immediate action drill" that can help you stay in that red center, the importance of separating the decision-maker from the communicator in a negotiation and having a "battle rhythm," why you don't give hostage takers the money they ask for right away and how to structure a negotiation instead, and more.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • AoM Article: The 7 Habits — Seek First to Understand, Then to Be Understood
    • AoM Podcast #648: Lessons in Building Rapport from Experts in Terrorist Interrogation
    • AoM Podcast #234: Haggling and Deal Making Advice From a FBI Hostage Negotiator
    • Box breathing
    • Physiological sigh
    Connect With Scott Walker
    • Scott's website

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    Lessons in Action, Agency, and Purpose From Buying a Ghost Town Mar 25, 2024
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    In the 19th century, Cerro Gordo, which sits above Death Valley, was the largest silver mine in America, a place where dreamers came to strike it rich. In the 21st century, Brent Underwood used his life savings to buy what had become an abandoned ghost town, and ended up finding a very different kind of wealth there.

    Brent has spent four years living in Cerro Gordo and has documented the details of the mines he’s explored, the artifacts he’s found, and how he’s restoring the town on his popular YouTube channel, Ghost Town Living. Now, in a book by the same name, he takes a wider-view lens on his adventures there and shares the big lessons he’s learned from his experiences and from the original residents of Cerro Gordo. We get into some of those lessons on today’s show. We first talk about how and why Brent bought a ghost town as a way of escaping a typical 9-5 life and finding a deeper longer-term purpose. We then discuss what restoring Cerro Gordo has taught him about the necessity of getting started and taking real action, how learning the context of what you do can add greater meaning to it, the importance of understanding the long-term consequences of short-term thinking, the satisfactions that come with being a high-agency person, and more.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • Burrow Schmidt Tunnel
    • Owens Lake
    • AoM Article: Become a Self-Starter
    • AoM Article:Meditations on the Wisdom of Action
    Connect With Brent Underwood
    • GhostTown Living on YouTube
    • Brent on IG
    • Brent on X

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    Get More Done With the Power of Timeboxing Mar 20, 2024
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    From work to chores to entertaining distractions, there are many options for what you can be doing at any moment in the modern world. We often endlessly toggle between these options and, as a result, feel frazzled and frustratingly unproductive. We feel ever haunted by the question, "What should I be doing right now?" (Or "What am I even doing right now?")

    My guest will share a simple but effective productivity method that will quash this feeling of overwhelm, answer that question, and help you make much better use of your time. Marc Zao-Sanders is the CEO and co-founder of filtered.com, a learning tech company, and the author of Timeboxing: The Power of Doing One Thing at a Time. In the first half of our conversation, we unpack what timeboxing — which brings your calendar and to-do list together — is all about and its benefits as a time management system, including how it can help you get more done, live with greater intention and freedom, and even create a log of memories. In the second half of our conversation, we get into the practicalities of timeboxing, from how to capture the to-dos that will go on your calendar to how to deal with things that might pull you away from it. We end our conversation with how you can get started with timeboxing right now and have a more focused, productive, and satisfying day tomorrow.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • AoM Podcast #543: Learn the System for Getting Things Done With David Allen
    • AoM Podcast #972: Down With Pseudo-Productivity — Why We Need to Transform the Way We Work With Cal Newport
    • AoM Article: The Eisenhower Decision Matrix — How to Distinguish Between Urgent and Important Tasks and Make Real Progress in Your Life
    • AoM Podcast #768: Become a Focused Monotasker
    • AoM Article: The Productivity Tool I Use to Get Things Done
    • AoM Article: A Formula for Success — The Power of Implementation Intentions
    Connect With Marc Zao-Sanders
    • Marc's website
    • Marc on LinkedIn

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    How to Shift Out of the Midlife Malaise Mar 18, 2024
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    When you think about someone having a midlife crisis, you probably think of a man getting divorced, stepping out with a younger woman, and buying a sports car. But my guest today says the often jokey, mockable trope of the midlife crisis we have in our popular culture discounts the fact that the sense of dissatisfaction people can feel in their middle years is quite real, and that the questions it raises are profond, philosophical, and worth earnestly grappling with.

    His name is Kieran Setiya, and he's a professor of philosophy and the author of Midlife: A Philosophical Guide. Kieran and I first discuss what researchers have uncovered about whether the midlife crisis really exists, how it might be better described as a kind of midlife malaise, and how Kieran's own sense of life dissatisfaction began when he was only in his mid-thirties. We then explore the philosophical reframing that can help in dealing with the existential issues that the journey into midlife often raises, including feeling like you've missed out on certain possibilities and feeling regret over your mistakes and misfortunes. We also talk about how to shift out of one primary cause of the midlife malaise — the sense that your life is merely about putting out fires and checking off boxes.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • Seasons of a Man's Life by Daniel Levinson
    • AoM series on Levinson's research
    • Transformations: Growth and Change in Adult Life by Roger Gould
    • Passages: Predictable Crises of Adult Life by Gail Sheehy
    • Orville Gilbert Brim's MacArthur study on "Midlife in the United States"
    • David Branchflower's study on the U-shaped curve of happiness
    • John Stuart Mill
    • Sunday Firesides: Youth Is Not an Identity
    • AoM Podcast #770: Philosophical Tools for Living the Good Life
    • AoM Podcast #620: How to Deal With Life's Regrets
    • AoM Article: The George Bailey Technique — Mentally Erase Your Blessings for Greater Joy and Optimism
    • AoM Podcast #527: Father Wounds, Male Spirituality, and the Journey to the Second Half of Life With Richard Rohr
    • AoM Podcast #598: Journeying From the First to the Second Half of Life With James Hollis
    Connect With Kieran Setiya
    • Kieran's Website
    • Kieran on Twitter
    • Kieran's Podcast

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    The 3 Musical Geniuses Behind the Most Popular Jazz Album of All Time Mar 13, 2024
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    Even if you're not very into jazz, you probably know Kind of Blue, the jazz album that's sold more copies than any other and is widely considered one of the greatest albums ever, in any genre.

    Among the sextet of musicians who played on the album, three stand out as true jazz geniuses: Miles Davis, Bill Evans, and John Coltrane. Today on the show, James Kaplan, author of 3 Shades of Blue: Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Bill Evans, and the Lost Empire of Cool, unpacks the stories behind these towering figures. We discuss their background, their demons, their passion for musical greatness, and what they contributed to the evolving world of jazz. And we discuss why, when they got together to record Kind of Blue, the result was the most timeless and beloved jazz album in history.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • James' last appearance on the AoM podcast: Episode #186 — The Legend and Reality of Frank Sinatra
    • "Miles Davis Blows His Horn" — James' 1989 Vanity Fair profile of Davis
    • AoM Article: A Crash Course in Jazz Appreciation
    • AoM Article: Want to Get Into Jazz? Listen to These 10 Albums First
    • Albums mentioned in the show
      • Kind of Blue by Miles Davis
      • Portraits in Jazz by Bill Evans Trio
      • Bitches Brew by Miles Davis
      • Giant Steps by John Coltrane
    Connect With James Kaplan
    • James' website

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    A Butler's Guide to Managing Your Household Mar 11, 2024
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    It's a tough job to manage a household. Things need to be regularly fixed, maintained, and cleaned. How do you stay on top of these tasks in order to keep your home in tip-top shape?

    My guest knows his way all around this issue and has some field-tested, insider advice to offer. Charles MacPherson spent two decades as the major-domo or chief butler of a grand household. He's also the founder of North America's only registered school for butlers and household managers and the author of several books drawn from his butlering experience, including The Butler Speaks: A Return to Proper Etiquette, Stylish Entertaining, and the Art of Good Housekeeping.

    In the first part of our conversation, Charles charts the history of domestic service and describes why the practice of having servants like a butler and maid ebbed in the mid-20th century but has made a comeback today. We then turn to what average folks who don't have a household staff can do to better manage their homes. Charles recommends keeping something called a "butler's book" to stay on top of household schedules and maintenance checklists. We then discuss how to clean your home more logically and efficiently. Charles shares his golden rules of house cleaning, the cleaning task you've probably neglected (hint: go take a look at the side of the door on your dishwasher), his surprising choice for the best product to use to clean your shower, how often you should change your bedsheets, and much more.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • AoM Article: How to Establish a Simple Cleaning Routine and Stick to It
    • AoM Article: How to Clean Your Entire House in 30 Minutes
    • AoM Article: How to Clean Like a Man
    • AoM Article: Keep Your House in Tip-Top Shape — An Incredibly Handy Home Maintenance Checklist
    • The Book of Household Management by Isabella Beeton
    Connect With Charles MacPherson
    • Charles' website

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    Down With Pseudo-Productivity: Why We Need to Transform the Way We Work Mar 06, 2024
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    The last several years have seen the rise of a sort of anti-productivity movement. Knowledge workers who feel burned out and that work is pointless, meaningless, and grinding, have been talking more about opting out, “quiet quitting,” and doing nothing.

    My guest would argue that, in fact, productivity itself isn’t the problem and that most people actually want to do good work. Instead, he says, it’s our whole approach to productivity that’s broken and needs to be transformed.

    Cal Newport is a professor of computer science and the author of books like Deep Work and Digital Minimalism. His latest book is Slow Productivity: The Lost Art of Accomplishment Without Burnout. Today on the show, Cal explains what’s led to the rise of what he calls “pseudo-productivity” and the fallout when we apply the structures of the industrial revolution to modern work. He then unpacks the tenets and tactics of the “slow productivity” approach to work, and how to implement them whether you work for yourself or for a boss. We discuss why you need to do fewer things in the short-term to do more things in the long term, the artificiality of working at the same intensity every day and how to inject more seasonality in your work, the role quiet quitting can play in achieving greater balance, and many other ideas on how to make modern work more sustainable, humane, and fruitful.

    Resources Related to the Podcast
    • Cal‘s previous appearances on the AoM Podcast:
      • Episode #78: The Myth of Following Your Passion
      • Episode #168: The Value of Deep Work in the Age of Distraction
      • Episode #479: Becoming a Digital Minimalist
      • Episode #689: Email Is Making Us Miserable — Here’s What to Do About It
    • AoM Article: A Counterintuitive Cure for Burnout
    • AoM article on the importance of location in productivity
    • Ira Glass’ past comments on the gap between taste and quality and more recent comments on Michael Lewis’ podcast.
    Connect With CalNewport
    • Cal‘s website

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