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    The Art Life

    What if art were less about goals and more about living? The Art Life is a podcast and emerging philosophy exploring what it means to be an artist.

    Each episode questions what art has to do with life: from nature to notebooks, from happiness to home renovations.

    Your host Grace Gordon shares stories of how art weaves meaning into all that we do. ‘Being an artist’ can be a job, but also an identity, a lifestyle, and a reminder to spend time away from screens.

    In conversation, The Art Life redefines ‘art’ as expansive, inclusive, and grounding.

    This show is for everyone because everyone can be an artist. Tune in for art chats and interviews. We hope you’re inspired to adopt an art life of your own.

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    Copyright: © 2019 Xandra Robinson-Burns, Heroine Training

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    The Art of Aftercare Jun 05, 2026
    Show notes

    Do you practice aftercare when the party ends? Do you celebrate when the film wraps shooting, or the book edits are done? Do you let yourself grieve when post-project depression hits?

    Dear artists, we must ritualize our artmaking process. We must wield our creative energy with intention. From survival mode to survivor mode: the narrative of our lives need aftercare.

    SHOW NOTES:

    * The Art Life is now on Substack: theartlife.substack.com

    * Happy Pride Month! See Grace costar Indi’s new sapphic music video “Now You Really Want Me”

    * Xandra’s Substack: xandrathewitch.substack.com

    * Xandra’s moon planner, Lunar Logbook: lunarlogbook.com

    * Xandra’s Instagram: instagram.com/xandrathewitch

    * Grace’s Instagram: instagram.com/gracegordonofficial

    The hosts would like to note: Xandra’s mom has watched the Survivor 50 finale and is doing great.

    RELATED EPISODES:

    * Episode 89: Survivor

    * Episode 47: Creating Traditions

    * Episode 45: The Art of Endings

    CONTACT:

    Share the link: http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com

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    Survivor May 01, 2026
    Show notes

    THE ART LIFE RETURNS! As Grace and Xandra celebrate their return to the podcast, they share joy and art life lessons from a year of watching Survivor. What can artists learn from a 50 season game show full of blindsides, social strategy, twists, and endurance challenges? As it turns out, QUITE A LOT! The art life is playing the game, while staying playful.

    SHOW NOTES:

    * The Art Life is now on Substack: theartlife.substack.com

    * Xandra’s Substack: xandrathewitch.substack.com

    * Jeff’s song for Survivor 50

    * Survivor 48, Survivor 50, Survivor: Cook Islands (13), Survivor 49

    * The Good Place

    * Xandra’s Instagram: instagram.com/xandrathewitch

    * Grace’s Instagram: instagram.com/gracegordonofficial

    RELATED EPISODES:

    * The Show Must Go On

    CONTACT:

    Share the link: http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Get full access to The Art Life at theartlife.substack.com/subscribe
    The Show Must Go On Oct 25, 2025
    Show notes

    EPISODE DESCRIPTION:

    We’ve all heard it before: THE SHOW MUST GO ON! But how do you keep going when it feels like your vision is falling apart?

    In Episode 88, Grace and Xandra discuss their year in projects, surviving Survivor, and what they’ve learned about creative resilience from their artist-mentors.

    Trust your vision, no matter the scale! And don’t forget to ask yourself: Is it Fun?

    SHOW NOTES:

    • The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron
    • Madly, Deeply by Alan Rickman
    • Taylor Swift Album Countdown Club
    • We’re watching Survivor! And Australian Survivor!
    • We love Mike White: powerhouse screenwriter, Survivor superfan, and returning contestant on Survivor Season 50.
    • Ronen V’s 6 Course Gourmet Dinner on the L Train
    • Fun Club is closed, but Xandra is running a Lord of the Rings Sorcerers Circle Next! Learn more: xandrathewitch.com
    • Lunar Logbook: lunarlogbook.com
    • Xandra’s Substack: xandrathewitch.substack.com
    • Xandra’s Instagram: instagram.com/xandrathewitch
    • Grace’s Instagram: instagram.com/gracegordonofficial
    • Thirst Trap is available to watch free on Tubi

    RELATED EPISODES:

    • our Artist's Way series trailer

    Share the link: http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Share the link: http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Get full access to The Art Life at theartlife.substack.com/subscribe
    The Friends We Make Along The Way Dec 29, 2024
    Show notes

    EPISODE DESCRIPTION:

    Do you ask your friends to support your art? Do you struggle with authentic self-promotion? In Episode 87, Grace and Xandra discuss strategies for sharing your work, involving your friends, and coping with post-project vulnerability. As your hosts recount their friendship origin story, they're reminded: the art life is the friends we make along the way.

    SHOW NOTES:

    • Order your Lunar Logbook today!
    • Watch Thirst Trap free on Tubi or Mometu
    • Won't Back Down: An Anthology of Pro-Choice Comics
    • Will by Will Smith
    • Ten Arguments for Deleting Your Social Media Accounts Right Now by Jaron Lanier
    • While You Were Sleeping (new album by Jade Renee)
    • Portal Leith (metaphysical shop in Edinburgh)
    • Aysha Rose & The Cosmic Underworld
    • With a special shout out to #87 Travis Kelce , who we honored through our Taylor Swift/Joe Alwyn/Travis Kelce tangent in our 87th episode, ha!
    • Send your requests for new topics and interview guests: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    RELATED EPISODES:

    • Episode 3: The Art of the Wander
    • Episode 76: Finding Your Audience and Facing Your Fears (with Alan Lastufka)
    • Episode 23: Finding Your People

    Share the link: http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Get full access to The Art Life at theartlife.substack.com/subscribe
    The Art of Achieving Your Dreams Oct 24, 2024
    Show notes

    What's the most surprising thing about achieving your dreams? Is it "lonely at the top"? After a two year hiatus (and many creative milestones) hosts Xandra and Grace are BACK to celebrate their recent dream projects, and reunite The Art Life. We missed you, too!

    SHOW NOTES:

    • Thirst Trap is streaming on Mometu
    • Lunar Logbook is fundraising on Kickstarter til 11/11/24
    • Xandra's essay Why I Stopped Singing
    • Xandra's Substack: xandrathewitch.substack.com
    • Xandra's Taylor Swift readings on Tiktok: @xandrathewitch

    RELATED EPISODES:

    • Episode 1: This is The Art Life
    • Episode 83: Is Art Therapy?

    Grace Gordon is on Instagram @gracegordonofficial

    Xandra Sunglim Burns is on Instagram @xandrathewitch


    Share the link: http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Get full access to The Art Life at theartlife.substack.com/subscribe
    Reinventing Your Art Life (with Xandra Sunglim Burns) Aug 19, 2022
    Show notes

    Are you ready to enter a new era of your art life? Will your audience accept your creative evolution? In Episode 85, Xandra returns to the show discuss her massive reinvention, breaking the "rules" of social media, and embracing the magic of change. The art life is being delusional... or is it? ;)

    SHOW NOTES:

    • Xandra the Witch (website)
    • Xandra the Witch is on TikTok and Instagram
    • Taylor Swift's TikTok is mostly cat videos
    • Dita von Teese is also now on Patreon!
    • Bohemian Rhapsody is streaming on Hulu
    • The Art Life is now on Patreon!
    • Send Grace your requests for new topics and interview guests: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    RELATED EPISODES:

    • Episode 69: When It's Time to Go
    • Episode 45: The Art of Endings

    The Art Life is on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theartlifeshow

    Read more and subscribe to our newsletter at http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    Grace Gordon is on Instagram: @gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Twitter & Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Share the link: http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Get full access to The Art Life at theartlife.substack.com/subscribe
    The Heart Part is the Hard Part (with Cesar Cardona) Aug 05, 2022
    Show notes

    EPISODE DESCRIPTION:

    Cesar Cardona (he/him) is a musician, actor, writer, and boxer. Today, he's celebrating the release of his debut album, THE HEART PART IS THE HARD PART. In Episode 84, Cesar and Grace discuss their years of collaborations and peer support, self-discipline for artists, finding new role models, and the spiritual journey that facilitated Cesar's album release. The art life is facing your shadow and opening your heart.

    SHOW NOTES:

    • Cesar's debut album The Heart Part is the Hard Part releases TODAY, August 5th 2022! Check it out on Spotify and Apple Music.
    • Things to Bare - Music Video by The Clew
    • The Clew is on Instagram and TikTok
    • Cesar Cardona is on Instagram
    • The Art Life is now on Patreon!
    • Send Grace your requests for new topics and interview guests: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    RELATED EPISODES:

    • Episode 71: Integrity for Artists (with Rev. Brig Feltus)
    • Episode 76: Finding Your Audience and Facing Your Fears (with Alan Lastufka)
    • Episode 42: The Art of Joy

    The Art Life is on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theartlifeshow

    Read more and subscribe to our newsletter at http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    Grace Gordon is on Instagram: @gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Twitter & Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Share the link: http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Get full access to The Art Life at theartlife.substack.com/subscribe
    Is Art Therapy? (with Ameya Calvocoressi) Jul 22, 2022
    Show notes

    EPISODE DESCRIPTION:

    "This is my therapy," we say while entering the theatre. "That was therapeutic," we exhale after dancing out our stress. We know that art is healing, but can it truly replace therapy? In Episode 83 Grace talks with therapist Ameya Calvocoressi about the ways art can heal us, and how therapy can help us create better art.

    SHOW NOTES:

    • Ameya's band Rotary Ghost is on Instagram
    • The Art Life (David Lynch documentary) is currently streaming on HBO Max
    • Narrative Humility
    • Internal Family Systems Therapy by Richard C, Schwartz and Martha Sweezy
    • Ghetto Klown (John Leguizamo's return to the stage)
    • Ghetto Klown by John Leguizamo , Christas Cassano, and Shamus Beyale (graphic novel adaptation of the stage show)
    • Rocket Fantastic: Poems by Gabrielle Calvocoressi (Ameya's sister)
    • Send Grace your requests for new topics and interview guests: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    RELATED EPISODES:

    • Episode 72: Are Witches Artists? (with Crimson Minx)
    • Episode 38: Art & Healing
    • Episode 30: Self-Love for Artists (with Amelia Fortes)

    Read more and subscribe to our newsletter at http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    Grace Gordon is on Instagram: @gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Twitter & Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Share the link: http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Get full access to The Art Life at theartlife.substack.com/subscribe
    Movement for Artists (with Athena Reddy) Jun 24, 2022
    Show notes

    EPISODE DESCRIPTION:

    You are not a selfie. You are not an image in a Zoom meeting. You are a body in three-dimensional space, with sensations and needs that are important to attune to.

    Athena Reddy (they/them) is an actor, writer, and movement artist. Today, Athena returns to the show to talk about teaching the philosophy of movement.

    SHOW NOTES:

    • The Body Abstract Blog
    • The Body Abstract Newsletter
    • Sign up for Athena's donation-based virtual classes
    • Athena's Recommended Reading List (books about movement)
    • Send Grace your requests for new topics and interview guests: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    RELATED EPISODES:

    • Episode 13: Stillness
    • Episode 14: Movement
    • Episode 67: How to Help Your Artist Friends (with Nick Grant and Athena Reddy)

    Read more and subscribe to our newsletter at http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    Grace Gordon is on Instagram: @gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Twitter & Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Share the link: http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Get full access to The Art Life at theartlife.substack.com/subscribe
    The Art of Editing (with Lorrie Kim) Jun 10, 2022
    Show notes

    EPISODE DESCRIPTION:

    Lorrie Kim (she/her) is an author who loves editing. In Episode 81, she takes a break from book revisions to speak with Grace about sending useful writing feedback, beta reading, and how the “fan fiction economy” can foster better storytelling.

    The art life is going word by word.

    SHOW NOTES:

    • Preorder the new edition of Snape: The Definitive Analysis by Lorrie Kim
    • Visit Lorrie Kim's beautiful new website (designed by writer Mira T. Lee)
    • Lorrie Kim is on Twitter
    • But Mostly, I Just Remember Feeling Terror (Lorrie's guest blog post about feeling defensiveness when getting critique)
    • Tree of Cats by Ellis Avery (with illustrations by Alison Bechdel!)
    • Send Grace your requests for new topics and interview guests: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    RELATED EPISODES:

    • Episode 18: Art & Barter
    • Episode 45: The Art of Endings
    • Episode 76: Finding Your Audience and Facing Your Fears (with Alan Lastufka)

    Read more and subscribe to our newsletter at http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    Grace Gordon is on Instagram: @gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Twitter & Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Share the link: http://theartlife.show

    Send letters to: The Art Life, c/o Grace Gordon, P.O. Box #1193, Hollywood, CA 90078

    Email: theartlifeshow@gmail.com

    Support The Art Life by buying our recommended books from our Bookshop page: bookshop.org/shop/gracegordonofficial

    The Art Life is on Instagram: @theartlifeshow

    Our music is ‘The Stream’ by Rorie: http://roriemusic.com


    Get full access to The Art Life at theartlife.substack.com/subscribe
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