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    The Amp Hour

    The Amp Hour is a weekly conversation about electronics and the people who design them.

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    An Interview with Matt Ettus - Quality Quadrature Quidam Jun 25, 2012
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    Welcome, Matt Ettus!

    • Matt started and still runs Ettus Research, now a 12 person Software Defined Radio (SDR) company located in the Bay Area
    • Matt got interested in SDR through the GNU radio project.
    • He got his start working at Bluetooth and GPS type startups.
    • In 2010, National Instruments acquired Ettus Research and they continue to run quite autonomously.
    • The main projects of Ettus Research revolve around the Universal Software Radio Peripheral (USRP). There are multiple flavors of this device.
    • The newest products mainly use Spartan3A FPGAs, though previously they ran with Altera Cyclone I's.
    • These radios have MIMO capability, meaning they have multiple inputs and multiple outputs.
    • The USRPs can mimic the cellphone base stations that talk to the devices we have in our pockets and the femtocells that are becoming more and more commercially available. This device was used to spoof security personnels' phones at DEFCON....and it worked!
    • There were once cores from the OpenCores website, but now most of that work is done in house. And it's open source!f
    • The Xilinx Zynq7000 now has a ($1400!) dev kits for reconfigurable SDR development.
    Many thanks to Matt Ettus for stopping by and to everyone who asked questions over in the new Discussion Forum. If you have more questions or want to continue the conversation, head over there and start a new thread!

    Thanks to Quinn Norton for the picture of Matt


    Bonkers Birthday Badinage Jun 18, 2012
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    Our 100th episode! Thank you so much to everyone who has continued listening and supporting us! And thanks to Jeff Keyzer for helping us continue broadcasting each week!

    • Happy (recent) Birthday Dave! What an awesome cake! And a video documenting the details!
    • The Amp Hour has an updated server!
    • We also have a brand new Discussion Server (http://discuss.theamphour.com) to try and promote more community among our listeners. We want you all to get to know one another. Check out that link or the "Discuss" link at the top of the page!
    • Car Talk is going off the air soon after 25+ years of radio. Sad!
    • Miroslav Batek has this great idea for stick-on labels for micros with the pinout!
    • Dave will have a booth at the upcoming Electronex show in Sydney. What should he do at his booth?
    • The Canton Fair coming up in China will have over 210,000 buyers. Wow!!
    • Fabs are being built all over the world. TSMC just announced they're building a 450mm fab for $8-10B! That's a lot of money!
    • Speaking of large chip companies, Intel's head of mobile dismissed ARM as a competitor recently. Really? Where are the phones with Intel chips?
    • Looking for old semi equipment? Alvaro let us know about the used semi equipment you can buy from Texas Instruments online. Someone call Jeri!
    • Got some old machines? Make some analog chips! Fab processes move down the chain from digital to analog, as laid out by a VP from TI, Dr. Venu Menon. He was being interviewed by our guest from last week, Steve Leibson.
    • Graduating from school soon? Looking for work? One of our listeners, Cody Shaw, wrote in about his 555 business card.
    • @Laen has recently transitioned the Dorkbot PCB service over to OSHPark! Check out the new site!
    • Fluxor from Engineer Blogs wrote a few weeks back about his interview style for new engineers. The main lesson? Know your basics!
    • Dave got a $30, 7" TFT-based eReader. Chris reiterated his point of view about abstracting interfaces for devices.
    • Sensationalizing technology in the media: CNBC reports on the "Backdoor" put into an Actel FPGA.
    • Through Silicon Vias are crazy. Texas Instruments is now doing trying them on their 28 nm process. Dave did a video about orders of magnitude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjvIy04PwYI
    • Chip of the Week!
        • TI (really the now-defunct National Semi--you can tell by the part name) now have a controller to create a GaN based Buck controller (for high temperature, high voltage or fast switching), the LM5113 GaN Controller. It's amazing how delicate these devices are for being able to handle so much voltage across them!
    Thanks for listening for the past 100 episodes! We appreciate it so much!

    Be sure to drop by the Discussion Area and get to know one another! See you there!

    Thanks to kcgiessen for the party soundclip!


    An Interview with Steve Leibson - Impavid Ideopraxist Insider Jun 11, 2012
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    Welcome, Steve Leibson!

    • Steve and Chris share an alma mater, Case Western Reserve University.
    • Steve started his career at HP, working on the HP9825 (which Steve keeps history on).
    • The SOL20, an S-100 based on the Z80.
      • Came with a high quality keyboard made by Cherry and had sideboards made of Walnut.
      • A video of a re-build of a SOL20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt8gXLlfB5c
    • Like many people, Steve has an opinion on the split of HP and Agilent.
    • Next Steve began writing. He eventually became the editor in chief of EDN magazine!
    • He also the was the VP of Content and the Editor in Chief at Microprocessor Report.
    • Steve bounced between writing and working at CAD companies, like Cadnetix. That later merged with DAISY systems. The merger of the two was a "fiasco".
    • After all the mergers and moves, Steve ended up running the Denali Memory Report and as a marketer at Cadence when they acquired Denali in 2010. Steve now regularly writes for the EDA360 Insider Blog.
    • Steve recently attended the Design Automation Conference, which is now in its 49th year!
    • Startups are still a possibility according to Steve; in fact, they can be quite profitable if you find the right niche.
    • Leibson’s Law says that it takes 10 years for any disruptive technology to be adopted by designers. That rule of thumb is based on decades of observation and includes the adoption of transistors, ICs, microprocessors, C for embedded design, etc.
    • Steve worked on an infomercial with Leonard Nimoy as an expert for e-Commerce and touch screens...or whatever they needed him to be an expert on.
      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owo8kcaT-8s
      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGDdfAD3ICw
    Thanks again to Steve for being on our show! It was a great insight into the EDA world!

    Proemial Passive Poiesis Jun 04, 2012
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    Back to normal this week but no shortage of electronics to talk about!
    • Dave was dismayed by the combination of sexism and insulting engineers in advertising.
    • Chris was dismayed by how fast (technology related) disinformation can be spread without any regard for details or fact.
    • Chris and Dave were both interested in some of the test equipment around the labs in The Avengers (link via @HilaryLustig).
    • LeCroy was bought out by Teledyne.
    • Chris thinks the same thing will happen as it does in other industries: Companies like Oscium (the iPhone/iPad scope company) will have bottom-up innovation and overtake the larger players.
    • Dave is trying out 3rd party manufacturing and selling for non-Aussie sales of the uCurrent.
    • Ian of Dangerous Prototypes recaps his MFBA talk about the different options electronics companies have for selling their product http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifTaGRTPwLc
    • The USB Power Supply on Kickstarter was announced around the same time as Dave announced his USB power supply. Should Dave try and get his on Kickstarter as well? What are the marketing implications?
    • A second version of the IOIO was announced, even after being superseded by the Android Development Kit (ADK).
    • 4 bit micros still exist and are designed into consumer products, such as the one that Dave found in his Braun toothbrush, the EM6682 by EM MicroElectronic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJgKfTW53uo
    • The Zed Board is a development board for the newly release Zynq7000 from Xilinx. It's a dual core A9 with logic wrapped around it...but who can afford to design it into a product?
    • Chip(s) of the Week!
      • The LT5400 is a set of high quality matched resistors from Linear Tech.
      • Texas Instruments now sells matched nexFETs in their PowerBlock packaging.
      • Linear Tech just announced the LTC4359, an ideal diode control chip.
      • The TPD1E6B06 is an ESD diode, likely one that TI pulled out of its IP bag.

    Thanks to Alvaro for the pictures of the resistors!


    An Interview with Eben Upton - Morbus Moilsome MakerFaire May 28, 2012
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    Welcome, Eben Upton of the Raspberry Pi Project!

    • Chris just got back from Maker Faire!
    • Is there a stigma against "Makers" by engineers by profession? There's an article at Engineer Blogs about this subject.
    • There was an article from the Drive for Innovation stating the engineer's dislike for Makers as well.
    • No one recognized Chris because of his Twitter picture.
    • Chris built a 555 boost converter for his bring-along project that then powered some HB LEDs.
    • Jeff (MightyOhm) was there presenting his open source hardware Geiger counter and showing it off at his booth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_3SVE0CQqw
    • The commerce side of Maker Faire was really comfortable, it was different than conferences, where you should use fake emails and probably don't want to buy from anyone.
    • We'll be shooting for a guest every other week from now on, feel free to call us on it if you don't hear one.
    • The crew from Dangerous Prototypes did a fun video on "How To" for Maker Faire. Look for Chris and Bunnie at 1:20 and then Chris later around the 5 minute mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39xX4xi0Uh8

    Thanks to Eben for talking to Chris during Maker Faire! And thanks to Element14 for helping set up the interview. It was tons of fun.


    Senseless Saccadic Shemozzle May 21, 2012
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    • Chris is off to Makerfaire in San Fran
    • Dave loves his Classic Messenger bag
    • The East Gipslands MakerSpace is starting up, and they have rented a HUGE space. See the Walkthrough
    • People don't want smart meters on their houses.
    • OrCAD now has an online marketplace, where you can download footprints and "apps"
    • Mayhew Labs have a nice online 3D Gerber viewer
    • New package announce by NXPs. Jeez, can't they get smaller?
    • I have a job, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do!
    • Map of ee jobs in the US
    • Environmental protection: What is it for? How is it done? When is it necessary?
    • Chip Of The Week - STM6524

    An Interview with Øyvind Janbu - Feracious Fabless Facilitator May 14, 2012
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    Welcome Øyvind Janbu, CTO of Energy Micro!

    • Øyvind went to school in Trondheim where there are multiple schools and many tech companies based around them.
    • Many early members, including the CEO, were part of ChipCon, which was later purchased by Texas Instruments.
    • Energy Micro (EM) is mostly employee owned.
    • Since EM is a fabless semiconductor company, the processing (manufacturing) is done primarily at TSMC.
    • "Le Sense" is an homage to the movie Pulp Fiction, in the same scene where they mention the Royale with Cheese.
    • Energy Micro has a VP of Simplicity, dedicated to making things easier for the customer.
    • The radios coming from EM are a variety of radio standards, including Bluetooth Low Energy.
    • The royalties of an ARM core are confidential, but ARM has more information about licensing in their annual reports.
    • Some of the newest parts in the EM Gecko family use the ARM M0+ core, which many vendors are promoting right now for low power.
    • The EM products have some unusual features, like DMA from an ADC while in sleep mode.
    • Energy Micro publishes their longevity guarantee right on their website for all to see.
    • Chips are available through distributors like Digikey and have been part of their strategy from day one.

    Many thanks to Øyvind for being on our show and giving us more insight into chip companies. He was really straightforward with his answers and we hope you learned a lot from him. Please leave any additional questions in the comments and we’ll try to make sure the proper people answer them.


    Gnomic Gazumping Gobemouche May 07, 2012
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    • We'll be interviewing Øyvind Janbu, the CTO and co-founder of Energy Micro next week! We'll have a separate post for asking him questions.
    • Chris will be speaking at the Bay Area Maker Faire. If you're going to be there, find a comfy chair and prepare for a snoozefest ;-)
    • Second reminder for applying to the Lemnos Labs hardware incubator program, which will be closing soon.
    • Our friend Alan Wolke did a really fun tour of his shop...through the screen of his oscilloscope! Lots of fun!
    • Dave has finally figured out his MakerBot...with some help from his friends and by reading the (friggin) manual. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omtmtJelm9M
    • Chris brings up a fun direct ink resist print using a vintage Epson printer. Great quality!
    • Sometimes process adjustments are necessary to get more life out of a process node. Chris mentioned an Engineer Blogs post about Photolithography, but that actually doesn't talk about the interference. There is a slide set from the University of Waterloo that does a good job explaining this process.
    • Intel continues to win by being the bleeding edge process company. Will be interesting to see if they get into the foundry business.
    • Dave mentioned the recently announced scandal involving Silverbrook in Australia, who have failed to produce output for many many years.
    • Apparently it's possible to print super caps with a Laser Scribe DVD burner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oEFwyoWKXo
    • DigiKey instituted a visual catalog...online! Finally! Have they been listening to the show??
    • LEDs that are going to be lighting up homes and workplaces almost were not possible. A researcher in the field explains the small margin on the bandgap required.
    • Dave mentions Gazumping, which Chris had never heard of.
    • Relays are a simple and yet crucial part of electronics. Chris was looking for cheap and small ones and was shown these from Omron. However, they didn't fit the bill. Instead, we found out about new research into relay-like devices....on silicon! Wow!
    Don't forget to subscribe to us! We suggested Miro (Dave's favorite for the desktop) and BeyondPod (Chris's favorite for his Android phone). There are lots of great options out there, we just want to make sure you hear about new shows when they are posted! Thanks for subscribing!

    An Interview with Tom LeMense - Cacaesthestic Chronometric Carriwitchet May 01, 2012
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    Welcome, Tom LeMense!

    • Tom is a grad of Michigan State University and has worked throughout the automotive electronics supply chain, including at Ford Electronics, Lear, TRW and a large automotive chip manufacturer.
    • Prior to the work, he helped design the boards that detected the Top Quark at Fermi Lab.
    • He recently got the boards he designed back, which were designed using ECL logic
    Here's what Tom wrote to us after the show about them:
    Attached are some photos of a couple of the "D0" (D-zero) equipment cards that I designed back in the late 1980's for the Fermilab particle accelerator in Neperville, IL. These were part of the experiment that confirmed the "top quark" and are closing in on the potential of the Higgs boson. The Fermilab Tevatron and collider was shut down just last September, but there's so much data that the physicists can continue to crunch, that they keep finding stuff.

    I should have put a scale in the photos to make clear how large these are. The floor tiles that they are resting upon are 12x12 inch (30x30cm). If you look at this photo, towards the bottom you can see blue-yellow racks - those house these cards (amongst others):

    The “master timing generator” (MTG) was loaded with a whole slew of bipolar PAL’s to generate the weird trigger/transfer control signals required in the rest of the system. 6 layers, mixed TTL and ECL. 54 MHz accelerator ring resonance frequency, but skew was super critical so hence the ECL signal path and bipolar pals.

    The closeup of the MTG shows the whimsical icon (recognize it if you’ve ever read Mad magazine’s “Spy vs. Spy” cartoon) that I got to stamp on all my creations. We all had an icon. There was a surfer guy, a fleur-de-lis, the RCA victor dog, etc. Gotta love working in a university environment, funded by the US Department of Energy…

    The Calorimeter Trigger Backplane was my PCB layout masterpiece - those interconnect signals aren’t simply bussed - there’s a very complicated interconnect scheme between them to reflect the physical layout of the calorimeter detectors. PCB is 16 layers, 4 plane layers, the remaining 12 are signal layers with the differential ECL traces between, with all attempts made to control the impedance of the interconnect (ECL likes 100 ohm Z0). Blind and buried vias were used as well. I recall the day we sent out the magnetic tape reel (!) with the gerber data to the only company that returned a bid on the job - we commented that we could either order two of these backplanes, or go and buy a new Chevy Corvette - each PCB was about $11K in 1988 dollars, IIRC.

    These were designed on an Intergraph CAD workstation, based upon a VAX 11/750 minicomputer, dual 20-something-inch monitors, 2-foot x 4 foot electromagnetic mouse+digitizer, etc. Pretty heavy duty stuff for a dumbass college student to be using! I became a complete CAD snob after that experience.

    • In recent news, Cray (the supercomputing company) was bought by Intel.
    • Tom got his start in RF working on the Super Regenerative circuit. He sent us a great scan of a 1922 article from Armstrong about the Super Regen Circuit.
    • Armstrong also invented the Super Heterodyne circuit.
    • For those interested in automotive testing, Tom sent us a link to a paper Ford published about their EMC testing requirements.
    • We also talked about the automotive supply chain and how the chip vendors are required to do stringent temperature testing and guarantee parts for 10 years.
    • Cars primarily use the CAN bus to communicate these days, though they also use the lower cost LIN bus in more places where it's less critical.
    • Dave was thinking about the previously discussed news about BugLabs pairing with Ford on opening up their infotainment system.
    • We announced the Lemnos Labs hardware incubator program, which is closing its applications in 2 weeks. While we don't know a lot about the program, people encouraging hardware sound good to us!
    Thanks again to Tom for being a guest on our show. It was great getting his insight into the world of automotive electronics. If you have any questions for him, please leave them in the comments!

    Update: Tom has capitulated and joined Twitter since we recorded the show. Hooray! Find him on there as @TomLeMense!


    Vellicate Videogame Vocation Apr 23, 2012
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    Another round with the MightyOhm! Welcome back Jeff!

    • Jeff has a new job! He'll be joining Valve as a hardware designer in June!
    • There is a handbook for working at Valve that was previously released online.
    • Additionally, another employee wrote about the culture of working at Valve.
    • Jeff highlights the importance of networking. Chris has written about this before, specifically for engineers.
    • In getting a new job, it's becoming increasingly important to show a portfolio of sorts. Jeff does this by documenting his projects on his MightyOhm website.
    • Jeff's kit business will continue but may need to be outsourced to a third party.
    • Kickstarter is getting bigger, as are the projects. The Pebble watch is now at $6 million dollars (and counting) and has 26 days left.
    • Ian of Dangerous Prototypes visit the SEG market in Shenzhen and show off the true power of a large electronics ecosystem/supply chain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBtRJc-z05k
    • New type of patent agreement out of the engineering group at Twitter. States that patents will only be used defensively and continue to be used in the same manner wherever those patents go.
    • Speaking of legal issues, a seemingly bogus lawsuit is being claimed against (many) companies that sell vacuum tubes with mercury in them...that they have mercury in them! Shocker! See more from this Hack-a-Day post and accompanying law filing.

    It was great having Jeff back on the show and we can’t wait to see what he develops while at Valve. We wish him the best of luck!

    Thanks to sigma for the picture of the valve.


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