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TSFU: Ep. 154- Murder Mystery in Texas: Dean and Tina Clouse Jun 07, 2024

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Get ready for this wide ride! This week, Fallon tells Ash about the tragic and bizarre saga of Dean and Tina Clouse.
1978, New Smyrna Beach, Florida —Dean (19) and Tina (15) fall madly in love, get hitched, and have a baby. Then, in 1980, their perfect life takes a dark turn when they move to Texas and suddenly vanish. Their decomposed bodies are found near Houston, murdered in cold blood. Cue the mysterious robed women who returns their car, claiming Dean joined their cult—seriously, what?!?! Decades later, in a shocking twist, genealogical detectives find Holly alive and well in Oklahoma in 2022. Seriously, this story has everything: love, murder, cults - you name it!
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-Research by Peggie Brott.
-Sources:
https://people.com/crime/inside-holly-marie-clouse-investigation-found-alive-40-years-disappearance-parents-murdered/
https://people.com/inside-42-year-long-missing-persons-case-baby-holly-marie-how-they-found-her-8399229
https://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/investigators-reveal-unprecedented-murder-case-baby-holly-parents-104605797
Https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiMurders of Dean and Tina Clouse
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/investigators-search-clues-case-murdered-parents-baby-holly/story?id=96691708
https://fox4kc.com/news/baby-holly-found-alive-40-years-after-florida-couple-murdered-in-texas-woods/amp/
https://www.unilad.com/news/us-news/colorado-five-year-old-inducted-mensa-top-one-percent-644130-20240308 MissingKids.org
https://www.missingkids.org › blogBaby Holly's Untold Story Medium · Spoiler TV1 month agoDean And Tina Clouse Murders — Who Killed Them?Solve the Case
https://www.solvethecase.org › caseMURDER - Harold Dean Clouse Texas Attorney General (.gov)
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov › ...Attorney General Paxton's Cold Case and Missing Persons Unit Locates …
https://abc.com/shows/2020/episode-guide/2023-11/03-baby-holly-found
https://www.texasobserver.org/who-killed-dean-and-tina-clouse/
https://spoilertv.info/dean-and-tina-clouse-murders/
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/article/baby-holly-found-houston-murders-18504169.php
https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2022/6/14/23165766/baby-holly-who-is-she-where-has-she-been-what-happened-tina-gail-linn-clouse-harold-dean-clouse-jr/
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ASH GOES DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE: Ep. 2- Baby Reindeer Isn't About Stalking May 31, 2024

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Welcome back to our second episode of Ash Goes Down the Rabbit Hole, we hope you found our first episode on the world of incels, the manosphere and looksmaxxing entertaining and informative.
This week Ash journeys down the rabbit hole of the hit Netflix show, Baby Reindeer. Donny Dunn (played by Richard Gadd) deals with a woman stalker, while struggling with his sexuality and dealing with repressed grooming and SA trauma. These things did happen to Gadd in real life, but the show is billed as "A TRUE STORY", leading audience members to believe that they could trust most of what they saw on screen. Gadd emphasized that he did all he could to hide the identity of "the real" Martha, Fiona Harvey, as she was a mentally ill victim who'd been dismissed by a careless system. Yet internet sleuths were easily able to identify the real Martha, and the point of the story, the lasting effects of trauma, has been overshadowed by the insane drama.
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ASH GOES DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE: Ep. 1- Looksmaxxing Into the Manosphere May 27, 2024

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We are SO FREAKING EXCITED to kick off TSFU's newest segment where you get to hang with Ash "one on one" and follow her down whatever rabbit hole she's recently fallen down!
We're starting this party off with a lesson in what the manosphere is, and a popular trend amongst young men on TikTok and in incel forums in the manosphere- looksmaxxing. Alphas, Chads, Mogging to up you SMV, jelqing... wtf does this all mean? Ash tells you alll about it today in our premier of ASH GOES DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE!
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TSFU: Ep. 153- Bettie Page: The Rise and Fall of the Queen of Pin-Up May 24, 2024

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Picture this: a 1950's pinup model in a bikini with jet black hair and short bangs... chances are that even if you don't know who she is, you're picturing the iconic Bettie Page.
Today we're diving into the fascinating and controversial life of the iconic pin-up queen, and one of Ash's idols, Bettie Page. Ash takes us through her troubled childhood and her rise to fame, becoming the first famous bondage model, pushing boundaries in the world of BDSM photography. Despite facing exploitation and financial struggles, Betty remained unapologetically herself and embraced her sexuality. Though Bettie didn't continue through life without her struggles, as she later battled with mental health issues that led to run-ins with the law and time spent in psychiatric facilities. The gals also discuss her mysterious disappearance from the public eye and why Bettie remains a beloved icon to this day.
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TSFU INTERVIEWS: Ep. 2- Cait West, Author of "Rift: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy" May 21, 2024

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Welcome to the second episode of our new segment, "TSFU INTERVIEWS..."!
In this episode, Fallon sits down with author Cait West to chat about her life and her new memoir, "Rift: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy". Cait spills all the details about growing up in the strict Christian Patriarchy movement, which adopts the beliefs of the Quiverfull Movement (check out our episode "The New F Word- Ep. 5: "Under Authority" and The Quiverfull Movement") and emphasizes men's role of authority. She was groomed to be a stay-at-home daughter with no college or career in sight. Every detail of her life was controlled until she found the courage to escape.
Rift is Cait's amazing story of breaking free from this oppressive upbringing and forging her own path. She dives into the lingering effects of patriarchal religious trauma and her own role in those systems. Her story sheds light on the impacts of "purity culture" and the abuse in some extremist Christian communities.
Check out "Rift: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy" on Amazon!
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TSFU: Ep. 152- New Cult: The University of Cosmic Intelligence May 17, 2024

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We're officially back Cultlings!
Today we're talking about a fairly new cult on the horizon, The University of Cosmic Intelligence, and its mysterious and problematic leader Rashad Jamal. Fallon tells us how this group got on the public radar, their criminal actions, and what we know about the cult and its missing members. The gals also talk about cults growing online as a new danger.
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TRENDING TOPIC: Tomoaki Hamatsu aka Nasubi/Eggplant, "The Contestant" May 10, 2024

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Note: this season of TSFU Presents originally aired in February 2023. We will be back with a brand new episode next Friday!
In this episode of "Jarring Japan", a TSFU Presents season where we explored the more interesting aspects of Japanese culture, Ash and guest co-host Alex of Weird Distractions Podcast talked about insane reality, game and prank shows.
Skip to 22:03 to hear the story of Tomoaki Hamatsu aka Nasubi ("Eggplant"), a Japanese reality TV star who was left naked in a room for over a year, endlessly filling out magazine sweepstakes to win his basic needs, including food, water and clothing. While being unwittingly filmed 24/7. A new documentary about Hamatsu, The Contestant, is available on Hulu now.
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TSFU INTERVIEWS: Ep. 1- Shelly Snow Pordea, Cult Survivor and Author of "The Cheating Wife" May 03, 2024

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WE HAVE A NEW SEGMENT, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST OF THREE THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT! WE PRESENT TO YOU "TSFU INTERVIEWS..."! This is a new segment where Ash, Fallon and friend of the podcast Chauntee Pitts will interview survivors, authors and all sorts of other incredible guests!
In this first conversation, Ash and Shelly Snow Pordea discuss Shelly's new book, 'The Cheating Wife,' which explores the themes of abuse, control, and the patriarchy within the context of a fictional story. They also touch on their own experiences with religious cults and the importance of raising awareness about the treatment of women within these systems. Shelly emphasizes the need for informed consent and proper training for counselors within religious organizations.
The conversation highlights the importance of challenging societal norms and promoting empathy and understanding. Ash and Shelly also discuss the harmful messages and beliefs perpetuated by religious institutions, particularly regarding gender roles and sexuality. They explore the damaging effects of the patriarchy and the pressure it puts on both men and women. Shelly shares her personal experiences growing up in a strict religious environment and how it influenced her writing. They also touch on the importance of finding a safe and supportive community and the need to ask questions and challenge dogma.
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TSFU UPDATES: Ash Relapsed and AA Sucks, Mental Health Stuff and Shanin Blake Shenanigans Apr 29, 2024

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Hi friends! This episode is a hodgepodge of updates around our mental health, Ash's recent lapse in sobriety and why she's glad she's not in AA, and what's happening on TSFU in the coming weeks. We've got a special interview and Patrons are getting a brand-spanking new episode of Ash Learns the Bible!
Ash also kicks off the show telling Fallon about a problematic singer that she recently discovered on the interwebs. Let us know if you're interested in more content like that, Ash is into it and wondering if y'all are on the same train. Please reach out and let us know! And as promised, we've provided some mental health and addiction resources below.
Mental health and addiction resources:

https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help
https://dialecticalbehaviortherapy.com/
- I've personally found DBT (Dialectical Behavioral Therapy) to be very helpful for my mental health and sobriety. It's about learning and utilizing skills including mindfulness, interpersonal effectiveness, emotion regulation and distress tolerance.
https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/sober-faction
- I don't have personal experience with this group but its come highly recommended
https://smartrecovery.org/
- I don't have personal experience with this group but its come highly recommended
https://alcohol.org/alcoholics-anonymous/alternatives-to-the-aa-approach/
- I have not tried or verified all of the groups on this page
https://www.oarhealth.com/resources/alternatives-to-aa-the-many-paths-to-sobriety-or-semi-sobriety
- I have not tried or verified all of the treatment suggestions on this page, but it's a lot of useful information

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TRENDING TOPIC: Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell, Murderous Doomsday Couple Apr 28, 2024

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Note: this episode originally aired in September 2021. Chad Daybell is currently on trial and the episode starts with an update of what's happened since our original episode aired.
Cam covered the story of Lori Vallow and her fifth husband Chad Daybell, and the disappearance of several of those around them. Daybell is the author of several Doomsday books and was the leader of a small cult, of which Lori was a devout follower. When Lori started to refer to her children, Tylee (16), and JJ (7), as zombies people began to worry a little, but not too much.
Once no one could find or speak to the children, and Lori gave conflicting stories of their whereabouts, for six months, she was finally arrested in February of 2020. The story leading up to the disappearance of Tylee and JJ, and the elopement and subsequent arrest of Vallow and Daybell in Hawaii, is stranger than fiction.
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