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    That’s Not Spit, It’s Condensation!

    “That’s Not Spit, It’s Condensation” is a weekly podcast with conversations and discussions about all things music. In it, we’ll peel back the layers of what makes great musicians great, hoping to inspire others to achieve their maximum potential.http://thatsnotspit.com

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    #201: Dr. Genevieve Clarkson - What Drum Corps Taught This Tuba Professor About Teaching Mar 25, 2026
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    Tuba professor and Bluecoats drum corps instructor Dr. Genevieve Clarkson joins the podcast to talk about what it really means to be a great music teacher. From purposeful practice and growth mindset to the unexpected lessons learned teaching at the highest level of drum corps competition, Jenny shares a philosophy of teaching that is equal parts inspiring and actionable.

    In this episode we cover:

    • What makes a truly successful music teacher
    • How to help students practice more effectively
    • What drum corps taught her about teaching fundamentals
    • Why potential matters more than perfection
    • How to give feedback that builds confidence instead of fear
    • The Repertoire Expansion Project and why new music matters

    Dr. Genevieve Clarkson is Associate Professor of Tuba and Euphonium at Oklahoma City University and Lead Brass Instructor with the Bluecoats Drum and Bugle Corps, the 2024 DCI World Champions. Find her at genevieveclarkson.com and on Instagram @GenevieveClarkson.

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    #200: Chris Martin - NY Phil Principal Trumpet's Practice System Mar 11, 2026
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    Praised as “brilliant…impeccable” by the New York Times and a musician of “effortless understated virtuosity” by The Chicago Tribune, Christopher Martin is Principal Trumpet of the New York Philharmonic. Prior to this, he was Principal Trumpet of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra for eleven seasons. Mr. Martin has enjoyed a distinctive career of more than twenty years as solo trumpet of some of America’s finest orchestras. As a soloist, Christopher Martin is in great demand in New York and around the world and has made several world premieres. Martin’s passion for new music has seen numerous works brought to life in both the orchestral and wind band repertoire. Christopher Rouse’s Heimdall’s Trumpet, John Mackey’s Antique Violences, and Julie Giroux’s Taboo were composed for Mr. Martin. Christopher Martin’s discography includes a solo trumpet performance in John Williams’s score to Steven Spielberg’s Lincoln (2012). 2019 saw the release of Antique Violences with Jerry Junkin conducting the Dallas Winds. Mr. Martin serves on the faculty of The Juilliard School. Christopher Martin is a Yamaha Performing Artist.

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    #199: Kevin McKee - From Trumpet to Composer (Centennial Horizon) Feb 25, 2026
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    In this episode, I'm sitting down with composer and trumpeter Kevin McKee to talk about his journey from trumpet performance to composition, how his playing background shapes his writing, and what makes his music so idiomatic and enjoyable to play. We dig deep into the inspiration and interpretive details behind Centennial Horizon, Kevin's evocative three-movement work for trumpet and piano inspired by Colorado. Kevin also shares details about his book Kevin McKee's Musical Jungle Gym for Trumpet, a gamified fundamentals method designed to keep students engaged through style studies, card-based practice routines, and QR-linked recordings.
    We covered:
    -How Kevin got started composing and what kept him going
    -Writing music you actually enjoy vs. chasing trends
    -The personal story behind Centennial Horizon (movement by movement)
    -Performance tips straight from the composer
    -The Musical Jungle Gym: who it's for and how to use it
    -Blocked buzzing as a tool for embouchure recovery
    -Kevin's advice for aspiring composers
    Find Kevin's music and get in touch at kevinmckmusic.com

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    #198: Dr. Molly Gebrian - Why Your Practice Isn't Working (According to Science) Feb 11, 2026
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    Most musicians are practicing wrong—not because they're lazy or untalented, but because traditional practice methods don't align with how the brain actually learns.

    Dr. Molly Gebrian is a violist, neuroscientist, and author of Learn Faster, Perform Better. She teaches at New England Conservatory and has spent years translating brain science into practical strategies for musicians.

    In this conversation, we dig into:

    • Why taking MORE breaks leads to FASTER progress
    • How mental practice can solve problems physical practice can't
    • The truth about talent (spoiler: it's irrelevant)
    • Why mistakes are essential for learning
    • The "old way, new way" technique that breaks bad habits in minutes
    • How to practice in 30-minute segments for maximum efficiency
    • What actually causes performance anxiety (and how to manage it)

    If you've ever felt frustrated in the practice room, stuck on a plateau, or wondered why hours of practice aren't translating to results—this episode will change how you think about practice forever.

    Molly's Website: www.mollygebrian.com

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    #197: Stephen Wadsack - Why This Trumpet Player’s Beliefs About Confidence Held Him Back Jan 28, 2026
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    Confidence wasn’t missing — it was misunderstood.

    In this episode, Ryan sits down with trumpet player and educator Stephen Wadsack to unpack how deeply held beliefs about confidence can quietly shape — and limit — the way we practice, perform, and grow as musicians.

    What starts as a conversation about auditions and orchestral playing turns into something much deeper: how confusing confidence with arrogance, or treating it as a personality trait instead of a byproduct of clarity, can hold even highly skilled players back. Together, they explore how humility, organization, identity, and understanding your fundamentals can actually create the confidence most musicians are searching for.

    If you’ve ever felt confident in some settings but not others, struggled with comparison, or wondered why hard work doesn’t always translate into freedom on stage, this conversation will resonate.

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    #196: 3 Common Trumpet Practice Problems You Don't Have To Accept Jan 07, 2026
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    Many trumpet players experience frustration, inconsistency, or uncertainty in their practice — and assume that’s just normal.
    In this video, I break down 3 trumpet practice habits that are common, but don’t have to stay that way.
    These habits often feel normal because they’re widespread, especially when players work hard without a clear system, feedback loop, or defined outcome. The goal here isn’t to criticize how you practice — it’s to help you understand why these experiences happen and what can change them.
    In this video, you’ll learn:
    Why certain frustrating practice experiences are so common
    How these habits affect progress, confidence, and consistency
    What principles I use to create clearer, more productive practice
    How to rethink practice without invalidating your past experience
    This video is for serious trumpet players who want to practice with more clarity, intention, and confidence — whether you’re a student, amateur, or professional.
    If you’ve ever felt like you’re working hard but not seeing the results you expect, this will help you understand what’s actually going on.

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    #195: My Philadelphia Audition - What It Felt Like To Make the Finals Nov 26, 2025
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    In this episode, I share the full story of my recent audition for the Principal Trumpet position with the Philadelphia Orchestra — one of the highest-profile trumpet auditions in the world. I made the finals, but the real takeaway wasn’t the result. It was the stillness, clarity, and confidence I felt throughout the entire process, even when things weren’t going my way.


    If you’re a trumpet player, brass musician, or anyone preparing for orchestra auditions, I hope this story gives you insight into how mindset, identity, organization, and deliberate practice all come together under pressure.

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    #194: Ron Von Dreau - The Secret to Growing a 60+ Student Music Studio Sep 24, 2025
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    In this episode of That’s Not Spit, It’s Condensation, I sit down with tubist and teacher Ron Von Dreau to talk about what it takes to build and sustain a thriving private teaching studio.
    Ron has taught in Texas for decades, managing studios of 60–80+ students while also teaching at the university level, directing band programs, and balancing freelance performing. His story is full of lessons for anyone building a teaching career: from starting with only a handful of students to learning the business side of teaching, earning trust with parents and band directors, and keeping students motivated year after year.
    We cover:
    -Ron’s eclectic career path from chamber music to teaching to band directing
    -How he grew his Texas studio to over 80 students
    -The importance of reputation, professionalism, and communication
    -Pedagogical “non-negotiables” that guide his teaching
    -Why fundamentals and flexibility matter more than flashy methods
    -The business realities of running a private studio (payments, scheduling, taxes)
    -His advice for young teachers starting out
    Whether you’re a brass player, a music educator, or someone curious about what it takes to make a living teaching, this conversation is packed with insight, honesty, and practical advice.
    👉 If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share it with a friend who might benefit from Ron’s wisdom.Taken from "That's Not Spit, It's Condensation!" Episode
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    #193: 4 Skills That Separate Audition Winners from Everyone Else Sep 10, 2025
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    In this episode, I'm going to break down the real reason auditions feel so brutal—and what separates the winners from everyone else. It's not luck. It's not just talent. It's a learnable set of skills that anyone can develop.
    If you’ve ever walked off stage thinking “I thought I was ready… what happened?”—this is for you.
    You’ll learn:
    ✅ The mindset shift that changes everything
    ✅ Why fundamentals actually matter
    ✅ The power of a clear, consistent plan
    ✅ And what most people misunderstand about deliberate practice
    If you're ready to take auditions seriously—and stop leaving your success up to chance—listen to this episode and apply what you learn.
    If you’re interested in working with me in my audition program, click the link below for more info:
    https://live.ryanbeachtrumpet.com/audition-program
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    https://www.skool.com/practice-independence-6092/about?ref=df99ad5a74574d09b881eb405135b71f

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    #192: Doug Lindsey - Master Lip Trills and Unlock Effortless Trumpet Technique Aug 13, 2025
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    In this episode, we break down how to master lip trills, develop faster and cleaner technique, and play with more freedom—without adding tension.
    You’ll learn why “lip trills” aren’t actually about the lips, how to train your air and embouchure for effortless control, and the exact exercises that build dazzling technique you can trust in any performance.
    We also explore how brass band playing can transform your musicianship, the mindset shifts that speed up progress, and practical advice for staying motivated and consistent.
    What you’ll learn:
    •How to do lip trills on trumpet (and why most players overcomplicate them)
    •Trumpet flexibility exercises that improve range and control
    •How to build speed and clarity without overthinking
    •The embouchure setup that makes lip trills easier
    •Why brass band playing develops dynamics, blend, and endurance
    •Mindset tips for overcoming plateaus in your playing
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    Dr. Douglas Lindsey joined the faculty at the University of Oklahoma in the Fall of 2023. Prior to his time at OU, Dr. Lindsey was the Associate Professor of trumpet and brass area coordinator at Kennesaw State University.
    As a soloist, he has performed many times each at the International Trumpet Guild conference, at the Atlanta Trumpet Festival, at the Trumpet Festival of the Southeast, in numerous faculty and guest soloist recitals across the country, and with many high school, community and college bands across the country. Recently, in collaboration with pianist Kristy Olefsky, Dr. Lindsey released his first solo album, Impressions of France. Alongside pianist Judy Cole, he has performed solo recitals all over the Southeast as a founding member of Duo Trompiano.
    As an orchestral musician, he has performed as principal trumpet of the Memphis Symphony, as section trumpet with the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, as principal trumpet of the Georgia Symphony Orchestra, as section trumpet with the Macon Symphony, and spent two summers as an orchestral fellowship winner at the Aspen Music Festival.
    His love of building community through music is highlighted by his leadership role in the Georgia Brass Band where he served as President and Principal Cornet for many years. This work culminated in the Georgia Brass Band earning their highest ever placement at NABBA. Recently in 2023 he was tapped to play principal cornet for the award-winning Fountain City Brass Band. In addition to a large variety of concerts in the United States, the band will also travel to England to compete alongside some of the world's finest bands. In addition to brass bands, Dr. Lindsey has spent time on tour in the award-winning University of Wisconsin Brass Quintet and as a member of the Mirari Brass Quintet.
    Previous to earning his DMA at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, Dr. Lindsey studied with Allan Dean at Yale, earning his Master of Music with the distinction of winning the John Swallow excellence in brass prize. Prior to Yale he studied with Ray Mase, Louis Ranger, Kevin Cobb, Scott Moore and Richard Rulli. Dr. Lindsey received his music performance and music education degrees magna cum laude from the University of Arkansas-Fayetteville. Dr. Lindsey is a Mercer and Barker mouthpiece and Schilke trumpet artist.
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