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**That’s Dark**

Not your typical horror movies, this is extreme cinema. We examine the most shocking movies we can find, digging into the ways that these movies mirror the uglier side of culture. Listen each week as we challenge each other to find reality in all gory detail. Shock, laughter, disgust and a little enlightenment mix together in every conversation. This is That’s Dark. Subscribe and join the discussion.

Latest Episodes:

I-Stand-Alone-Cover (1).jpg — **30 I STAND ALONE II** Jul 20, 2020

In our Cold Cuts episode on I Stand Alone, Danny takes us deep into the mind and persona of Gaspar Noé with his movie facts. Pappy encourages the group to get all meta and leads a charge straight through the 4th Wall. And, as always, David rescues the conversation from the philosophical ether with another rousing segment of movie reviews. Listen in.

**29 I STAND ALONE I** May 26, 2020

Danny plays his only veto card early in the season, dismissing David and Pappy's film. So, listen in on the Hot Takes episode for Gaspar Noé's 1999 I Stand Alone. Spoiler Alert: Danny loves this movie.

**28 SLAUGHTERED VOMIT DOLLS II** May 04, 2020

In our Cold Cuts edition, we do a deeper dive into the giant puddle of puke that is Slaughtered Vomit Dolls. Danny’s movie facts try to pierce the veil of director Lucifer Valentine’s persona, and Pappy pushes the discussion toward literary modernism. And then, as per usual, David swoops in to save the day with much needed (and much hilarious) movie reviews. Listen as we try to close the vomit valve.

**27 SLAUGHTERED VOMIT DOLLS I** Apr 21, 2020

In our Hot Takes edition of Lucifer Valentine’s (2006) Slaughtered Vomit Dolls, we try to make sense of, well, a lot of vomit. But that’s not all. The confusion starts with a cryptic and grossly misleading Wikipedia plot summary, and it just regurgitates on itself from there. Listen as we sludge through a film “famous” for creating its own genre, predictably called Vomit Gore.

**26 SALO, OR THE 120 DAYS OF SODOM II** Apr 06, 2020

In our Cold Cuts episode of *Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom*, we dive into the history of the film’s director, Pier Paolo Pasolini, for Movie Facts. Then it’s time for a good old fashion debate whether or not people are born innately good or evil, as we discuss the work of the Marquis de Sade, Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Pasolini’s film. Needless to say, there are conflicting opinions in the studio. Thankfully, the mood gets lighten by some pretty startling and hilarious movie reviews. Have a listen as we cap off this cinematic monolith.

**25 SALO, OR THE 120 DAYS OF SODOM I** Mar 30, 2020

We’re back! It’s Season 2, and we’re starting off with a bang! Canon for Extreme Cinema, Pier Paolo Pasolini’s *Salo, Or the 120 Days of Sodom* could’ve been a season finale. But we’re all about instant gratification at That’s Dark, and patience isn’t one of our virtues. In the first Hot Takes of the season, listen as we wade through torture, nudity fecal matter and overtly political, if not confusing, overtones thanks to one of the most notorious movies ever made.

**24 THREADS / WOMEN** Nov 18, 2019

In the last episode of Threads season one, the guys take on the complicated subject of women and the representation of females in Dark Cinema. Listen in as Danny, David and Pappy offer more questions than answers as they try to understand these films from a woman’s perspective.

**23 THREADS / EXTREME CINEMA** Nov 04, 2019

In the third episode of Threads, Danny, David and Pappy ask a pretty important question – what is Extreme Cinema? This question spirals into a conversation around genre and even tempts the boys into starting their own definition of “Dark Cinema.”

**22 THREADS / FEAR** Oct 21, 2019

In the second episode of Threads, the guys discuss whether or not extreme movies are actually trying to make them afraid. And if not, what do they feel instead? Listen as they investigate the relationship between fear and the movies they watched during the first season.

**21 THREADS / LAUGHTER** Sep 24, 2019

For the inaugural That’s Dark Thread, the guys discuss laughter in hopes that they can understand how it relates to the films they watch. Acknowledging the range from innocent chuckles that claim no victim to mean-spirited laughter at the expense of others, the guys try to place the laughter moments that will materialize during the viewing and discussion of dark films.

Serbian Film Cover.jpg — **18 A SERBIAN FILM I** Mar 25, 2019

For our season finale, we end with the big one. Danny is caught blindsided when he realizes Pappy and David’s red herring film pick — the fictional 2017 film *What We’ve Done to Tyler*, doesn’t actually exist. His fear of the unknown is immediately replaced with a sense of dread, knowing the rumours surrounding Srdjan Spasojevic’s *A Serbian Film*. From the sounds of Danny’s voice, the film lived up to the hype. Pappy, David and Danny dispute whether or not the film has a message, as suggested by the director, or if it is simply intended to shock. Pappy is reminded of the brutality of this film, while David begins to see some artistic merit. The last Hot Takes episode of the season is ignited by an inflammatory shock piece.

In a Glass Cage Cover-0.png — **17 IN A GLASS CAGE II** Mar 14, 2019

This episode was a long time in the making. The initial conversation in this episode took place over half a year ago. What began as some friction over which genre this film belongs to, became an unlistenable argument between Danny and Pappy over Freud’s Pleasure Principle and Death Drive. The boys recently sat down to revisit the conversation and managed to replace the previous Freud discussion with a much more productive one.

**15 GROTESQUE II** Dec 10, 2018

In our Cold Cut edition of *Grotesque*, we give some serious consideration to the all the violence that makes up this movie, and David regales us with one of the craziest stories from his past.

Grotesque Cover.jpg — **14 GROTESQUE I** Dec 05, 2018

One of the more recent films notorious for its violence, we get into Koji Shiraishi’s 2009 *Grotesque*. This is Hot Takes where we give off the cuff reactions as we dive deep into Japanese torture porn. While opinions vary as to what the movie is about and how good it is, it definitely made all a little squirmy while watching.

Henry Cover.jpg — **13 HENRY: PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER II** Nov 26, 2018

Join us as we conclude our take on McNaughton’s film with some fresh Cold Cuts. In this episode, plenty Henry Lee Lucas facts abound as Danny dips into his inner true crime podcast and goes FULL Henry. Also, we take a suspect serial killer personality test to see who we’d be.

Breaking Her Will Cover.jpg — **11 BREAKING HER WILL II** Nov 05, 2018

Hand-picked by Danny, the boys watch Bill Zebub’s Breaking Her Will (2009). David makes interesting claims about the effectiveness of torture scenes. Danny seems to defend the trained talents of Bill Zebub’s actors. And Pappy leads a discussion on the panopticon. An important term is coined that appears in the rest of the season, and Danny, David and Pappy are tested to come up with their own awesome director pseudonym.

TRIAL with APPLE CON.jpg — **9 THE MIKE DIANA INTERVIEW** Oct 22, 2018

In our first interview, we sit down with Mike Diana to discuss his recent documentary – Boiled Angels: The Trial of Mike Diana – and his unique story of art, the law and freedom of speech. Mike’s documentary is absolutely fascinating. There are a few screenings coming up. Please follow the link to find one near you.
https://mikedianacomix.com/events.html

**8 THE EMPATHY TEST** Oct 22, 2018

Last week, we all took home an empathy quotient designed by Simon Baron-Cohen (affectionately known as Borat’s cousin). Listen in as we discover who is the least empathetic member of the podcast!

MSP Cover.jpg — **7 MURDER SET PIECES III** Oct 15, 2018

Time gets away from us as we dive into part three of Murder Set Pieces. This episode, Pappy leads a discussion on Empathy, we subject the killer in MSP to various psychopath tests and we all get a little homework – filling out individual empathy tests to see who's the least empathetic of the group. We promise this is the last episode on Murder Set Pieces.

**6 MURDER SET PIECES II** Oct 15, 2018

Danny deals with pent up anxiety that’s built up since last episode. He almost goes Full Henry when explaining his reaction in part one. Pappy and David play everything from Devil’s Advocate and therapist to listening ears as Danny’s works out some guilt on the air. And we all get ready for a talk about empathy.

4 MARTYRS II Oct 01, 2018

The guys talk discuss how Martyrs was received in France, and begin to learn about European authoritarian censorship boards. Pappy drives a conversation about PTSD and how it’s represented in this film.

3 MARTYRS I Oct 01, 2018

Danny is confronted with a film he’s been avoiding for years, but to Pappy and David’s dismay, he’s unaffected. Pappy reveals his cold and calculating nature, and the boys discuss just how far we would go for our friends in a rough situation.

2 CUTTING MOMENTS II Oct 01, 2018

After some research and deeper thought (and reading other people’s reviews), the guys realize that they have been mindbucked™. Pappy provides some thought provoking learning material on Laura Mulvey’s Male Gaze and challenges Danny and David to think about Cutting Moments in a new way.

1 CUTTING MOMENTS I Oct 01, 2018

David and Pappy throw Danny into the deep end with one of the most notorious titles in horror movies and extreme cinema. The guys discover and navigate some implicit themes and are forced to admit that Cutting Moments was an excellent movie, despite their Hot Takes.

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