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**Test & Code**

The Python Test Podcast hosted by Brian Okken

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50: Flaky Tests and How to Deal with Them Oct 25, 2018

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Anthony Shaw joins Brian to discuss flaky tests and flaky test suites.

What are flaky tests?
Is it the same as fragile tests?
Why are they bad?
How do we deal with them?
What causes flakiness?
How can we fix them?
How can we avoid them?
Proactively rooting out flakiness
Test design
GUI tests
Sharing solutions

Special Guest: Anthony Shaw.

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49: tox - Oliver Bestwalter Oct 15, 2018

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tox is a simple yet powerful tool that is used by many Python projects.

tox is not just a tool to help you test a Python project against multiple versions of Python. In this interview, Oliver and Brian just scratch the surface of this simple yet powerful automation tool.

This is from the tox documentation:

tox is a generic virtualenv management and test command line tool you can use for:

checking your package installs correctly with different Python versions and interpreters
running your tests in each of the environments, configuring your test tool of choice
acting as a frontend to Continuous Integration servers, greatly reducing boilerplate and merging CI and shell-based testing.

Yet tox is so much more. It can help create development environments, hold all of your admin scripts, ...

I hope you enjoy this wonderful discussion of tox with Oliver Bestwalter, one of the core maintainers of tox.

Special Guest: Oliver Bestwalter.

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48: A GUI for pytest Oct 07, 2018

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The story of how I came to find a good user interface for running and debugging automated tests is interleaved with a multi-year effort of mine to have a test workflow that’s works smoothly with product development and actually speeds things up. It’s also interleaved with the origins of the blog pythontesting.net, this podcast, and the pytest book I wrote with Pragmatic.

It’s not a long story. And it has a happy ending. Well. It’s not over. But I’m happy with where we are now. I’m also hoping that this tale of my dedication to, or obsession with, quality and developer efficiency helps you in your own efforts to make your daily workflow better and to extend that to try to increase the efficiency of those you work with.

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pythontesting.net

47: Automation Panda - Andy Knight Sep 28, 2018

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Interview with Andy Knight, the Automation Panda.

Selenium & WebDriver
Headless Chrome
Gherkin
BDD
Given When Then
pytest-bdd
PyCharm
Writing Good Gherkin
Overhead of Gherkin and if it's worth it
When to use pytest vs pytest-bdd
The art of test automation

Special Guest: Andy Knight.

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46: Testing Hard To Test Applications - Anthony Shaw Sep 02, 2018

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How do you write tests for things that aren’t that easy to write tests for?

That question is a possibly terrible summary of a question sent to me by a listener. And to help me start answering that question, I asked a friend of mine to help, Antony Shaw.

Of course, different types of applications have different test strategies, so there’s not a universal answer. But I know some of you out there have experience and expertise around how to tackle this problem.

Listen to the discussion Anthony and I have about it, and let me know if you have some techniques or tips to add.

Special Guest: Anthony Shaw.

45: David Heinemeier Hansson - Software Development and Testing, TDD, and exploratory QA Aug 13, 2018

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David Heinemeier Hansson is the creator of Ruby on Rails, founder & CTO at Basecamp (formerly 37signals). He's a best selling author, public speaker, and even a Le Mans class winning racing driver.

All of that, of course, is awesome. But that's not why I asked him on the show. In 2014, during a RailsConf keynote, he started a discussion about damage caused by TDD. This was followed by a few blog posts, and then a series of recorded hangouts with Martin Fowler and Kent Beck. This is what I wanted to talk with David about; this unconventional yet practical and intuitive view of how testing and development work together.

It's a great discussion. I think you'll get a lot out of it.

Special Guest: David Heinemeier Hansson.

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Preparing for Technical Talks with Kelsey Hightower - bonus episode Jul 17, 2018

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After I had wrapped up the interview with Kelsey Hightower for episode 43, I asked him one last question.

You see, I admire the his presentation style.
So I asked him if he would share with me how he prepared for his presentations.

His answer is so thoughtful and makes so much sense, I couldn't keep it to myself.

I'm releasing this as a bonus mini-episode so that it's easy to refer back to the next time you or I have a chance to do a technical talk.

Special Guest: Kelsey Hightower.

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Preparing for Technical Talks with Kelsey Hightower - bonus episode Jul 16, 2018

Show notes

After I had wrapped up the interview with Kelsey Hightower for episode 43, I asked him one last question.

You see, I admire the his presentation style.
So I asked him if he would share with me how he prepared for his presentations.

His answer is so thoughtful and makes so much sense, I couldn't keep it to myself.

I'm releasing this as a bonus mini-episode so that it's easy to refer back to the next time you or I have a chance to do a technical talk.

Special Guest: Kelsey Hightower.

43: Kelsey Hightower - End to End & Integration Testing Jul 05, 2018

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I first heard Kelsey speak during his 2017 PyCon keynote.
He's an amazing speaker, and I knew right then I wanted to hear more about what he does and hear more of his story.

We discuss testing, of course, but we take it further and discuss:

tests for large systems, like kubernetes
Testing in real world scenarios with all the configuration and everything
Becoming a complete engineer by thinking about the end to end flow from the users perspective
Learning from other roles, and the value of roles to allow focus and expertise
We even get into Chaos Engineering and testing live systems.

Special Guest: Kelsey Hightower.

42: Using Automated Tests to Help Teach Python - Trey Hunner Jun 27, 2018

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This interview with Trey Hunner discusses his use of automated tests to help teach programming.

Automated testing is a huge part of developing great software. But many new developers don't get exposed to testing for quite a while. But this is changing.

New ways to teach programming include automated tests from the beginning.

Trey Hunner is one of the PSF directors and a Python and Django team trainer, and he has been using automated tests to help people learn Python.

Special Guest: Trey Hunner.

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