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**Test & Code**

The Python Test Podcast hosted by Brian Okken

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176: SaaS Side Projects - Brandon Braner Jan 18, 2022

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The idea of having a software as a service product sound great, doesn't it?

Solve a problem with software. Have a nice looking landing page and website. Get paying customers.

Eventually have it make enough revenue so you can turn it into your primary source of income.

There's a lot of software talent out there. We could solve lots of problems.
But going from idea to product to first customer is non-trivial.
Especially as a side hustle.
This episode discusses some of the hurdles from idea to first customer.

Brandon Braner is building Released.sh. It's a cool idea, but it's not done yet.

Brandon and I talk about building side projects:

finding a target audience
limiting scope to something doable by one person
building a great looking landing page
finding time to work on things
prioritizing and planning
learning while building
even utilizing third party services to allow you to launch faster
and last, but not least, having fun

Special Guest: Brandon Braner.

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Who Should Do QA? Jan 12, 2022

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Who should do QA?
How does that change with different projects and teams?
What does "doing QA" mean, anyway?

Answering these questions are the goals of this episode.

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Test Automation - Who Should be Involved? | Thoughtworks

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175: Who Should Do QA? Jan 12, 2022

Show notes

Who should do QA?
How does that change with different projects and teams?
What does "doing QA" mean, anyway?

Answering these questions are the goals of this episode.

Links:

Test Automation - Who Should be Involved? | Thoughtworks

pseudo-TDD - Paul Ganssle Dec 22, 2021

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In this episode, I talk with Paul Ganssle about a fun workflow that he calls pseudo-TDD.
Pseudo-TDD is a way to keep your commit history clean and your tests passing with each commit.
This workflow includes using pytest xfail and some semi-advanced version control features.

Some strict forms of TDD include something like this:

write a failing test that demonstrates a lacking feature or defect
write the source code to get the test to pass
refactor if necessary
repeat

In reality, at least for me, the software development process is way more messy than this, and not so smooth and linear.

Pauls workflow allow you to develop non-linearly, but commit cleanly.

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Special Guest: Paul Ganssle.

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If you like Test & Code, I think you'll also like Python People

Python People is a new podcast about getting to know the people who make Python and our community awesome.
Be sure to check out pythonpeople.fm.

174: pseudo-TDD - Paul Ganssle Dec 22, 2021

Show notes

Some strict forms of TDD include something like this:

write a failing test that demonstrates a lacking feature or defect
write the source code to get the test to pass
refactor if necessary
repeat

In reality, at least for me, the software development process is way more messy than this, and not so smooth and linear.

Pauls workflow allow you to develop non-linearly, but commit cleanly.

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Why NOT unittest? Dec 17, 2021

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In the preface of "Python Testing with pytest" I list some reasons to use pytest, under a section called "why pytest?". Someone asked me recently, a different but related question "why NOT unittest?".

unittest is an xUnit style framework. For me, xUnit style frameworks are fatally flawed for software testing.

That's what this episode is about, my opinion of

"Why NOT unittest?", or more broadly,
"What are the fatal flaws of xUnit?"

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If you like Test & Code, I think you'll also like Python People

Python People is a new podcast about getting to know the people who make Python and our community awesome.
Be sure to check out pythonpeople.fm.

173: Why NOT unittest? Dec 17, 2021

Show notes

unittest is an xUnit style framework. For me, xUnit style frameworks are fatally flawed for software testing.

That's what this episode is about, my opinion of

"Why NOT unittest?", or more broadly,
"What are the fatal flaws of xUnit?"

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Designing Better Software with a Prototype Mindset Nov 30, 2021

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A prototype is a a preliminary model of something, from which other forms are developed or copied.
In software, we think of prototypes as early things, or a proof of concept.
We don't often think of prototyping during daily software development or maintenance. I think we should.
This episode is about growing better designed software with the help of a prototype mindset.

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Selecting a programming language can be a form of premature optimization — Brett Cannon's blog post

If you like Test & Code, I think you'll also like Python People

Python People is a new podcast about getting to know the people who make Python and our community awesome.
Be sure to check out pythonpeople.fm.

172: Designing Better Software with a Prototype Mindset Nov 30, 2021

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Selecting a programming language can be a form of premature optimization — Brett Cannon's blog post

How and why I use pytest's xfail - Paul Ganssle Nov 22, 2021

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Paul Ganssle, is a software developer at Google, core Python dev, and open source maintainer for many projects, has some thoughts about pytest's xfail.
He was an early skeptic of using xfail, and is now an proponent of the feature.
In this episode, we talk about some open source workflows that are possible because of xfail.

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Special Guest: Paul Ganssle.

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