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    Talking Scared

    Conversations with the biggest names in horror fiction. A podcast for horror readers who want to know where their favourite stories came from . . . and what frightens the people who wrote them.

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    105 – Agatha Andrews and Danger-Bangs in Haunted Houses Aug 16, 2022
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    This week we’re crossing the podcast streams again – and broadening our reading at the same time.

    Agatha Andrews is the host of She Wore Black, a Texas-based podcast of Gothic, Mystery and Horror. She’s also my horror-podcasting buddy, the romantic yin to my dark, depraved yang. And she knows a thing or two about Gothic Romance.

    It turns out it’s not all virgins in nightgowns (though they do make an appearance). Agatha talks me through the complex, overlapping relationships between Romance, Gothic, horror and erotica. We talk about how love combines with fear, why happy endings are an ironclad rule and the joy of the Danger-Bang. She also helps me navigate some recent twitter beef that had me utterly confused.

    This is a little diversion for the show, a ramble down a different path for this week. But hey, give love a chance!

    (plus, we also talk about House of Leaves)

    Episodes of She Wore Blackare released weekly and you can find Agatha at @sheworeblackpod

    Other books discussed in this episode include:

    • The Haunting of Maddy Clare (2012), by Simone St. James
    • Mexican Gothic (2020), by Silvia Moreno Garcia
    • The Hacienda (2022), by Isabel Cañas
    • Goddess of Filth (2021) by V. Castro

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    104 – Michael J. Seidlinger and Strange Footsteps at Midnight Aug 09, 2022
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    Are your doors and windows locked? Good. ‘Cos this one is going to scare you!

    This week I’m joined by Michael J. Seidlinger, author of the new home-invasion nightmare, Anybody Home. You’ve read this scenario before – invasion, torture, death and suffering – but never like this.

    We talk about why home invasion is so singularly frightening, about the role of movies and lenses in our hyper-surveillant culture, we disagree on the current state of experimental fiction, and Michael gives perhaps the most startling answer yet to the question of where did the idea for this book come from…

    All that, plus my rantings on the morality of torture porn, some really geeky video game chat, heavy metal metaphors, and an afterword containing some important questions for the future of this show.

    Enjoy!

    Anybody Home is published August 16th by CLASH books

    Other books discussed in this episode include:

    • The Shards (2023), by Bret Easton Ellis
    • Hoarders (2021), by Kate Durbin
    • Frank (2002), by R. M. Berry
    • “The Death of the Author” (1967), by John Barthes – read here

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    103 – Giving Kids Swords: A Middle Grade Special w/ with Ally Malinenko, Dan Poblocki & Lora Senf Aug 02, 2022
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    What scared you as a kid? Monsters? Ghosts? The thing in your closet? The perilous state of the environment and the terrible carbon footprint of children’s toys?

    If it’s any of the former then you’re in good company. (If it’s the latter then boy did we need you in 1987!) This week’s guests understand the fear that makes the childlike mind tick and tock, they know how to get under young skin, and they know how to inject a little hope into the horror.

    Ally Malinenko, Dan Poblocki and Lora Senf are three of the finest middle-grade authors around. Their books, This Appearing House, Tales to Keep You Up at Night and The Clackity present three very different kinds of nightmares to challenge, inspire and slightly terrify readers age 8-12.

    In this middle-grade special we dive deep into each of their book, to examine how horror works for younger readers. When does a lot become too much? And what can we say to the gatekeepers and politicians who would rather these precious children not read such awful things. It’s an important question, cos, after all, kids are the ones who are going to have to both survive and save this world – so let’s at least prepare them with some horrors they can conquer in the here and now.

    This is a longer episode, and a slightly left-turn. But it’s also a lot of fun and surprisingly dark.

    Enjoy!

    The Clackity is published June 28th by Atheneum

    This Appearing House is published August 16th by Katherine Tegen Books

    Tales to Keep You Up at Night is published August 16th by Penguin Workshop

    Other books discussed in this episode include:

    • Hoodoo (2015), by Ronald L. Smith
    • Hide and Don’t Seek, and Other Very Scary Stories (20212), by Anica Mrose Rissi
    • Ghost Love (2020), by Dennis Mahoney
    • The Nest (2015), by Kenneth Oppell
    • It Looks Like Us (2022), by Alison Ames
    • Liars Room (2021), by Dan Poblocki
    • The House With a Clock in Its Walls (1973), by John Bellairs
    • Wait Till Helen Comes: A Ghost Story (1986), by Mary Downing Hahn
    • “The Raft”, in Skeleton Crew (1985), by Stephen King
    • The Haunted Book (2012), by Jeremy Dyson

    To find out more about my friend Amy Sarthou and her Portable Magic project to increase inclusive school reading – you can follow her on instagram at PortableMagic_reads_books

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    102 – Nina Nesseth and How the Gross-Out Can Save Your Life Jul 26, 2022
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    Do you like scary movies? Yes, course you do – you’re listening to a horror podcast.

    Okay, cliched horror quote asides – this week is something a little different for the show. It’s been a minute since we’ve had some non-fiction, and how better to scratch that itch-for-facts than with a discussion of BRAINZZZZZ?

    Our guest is Nina Nesseth: scientist, researcher and author of Nightmare Fuel: The Science of Horror Films. It does what it says on the cover. Nina guides us through a century of horror cinema, looking at how we, as a species, react neurologically and physiologically to scenes of blood, violence and carnage. Think of it, perhaps, as a tour of the most haunted house of all, the human mind.

    We dissect everything ­– movies, culture, eyeballs (prepare yourself!), and the trailer for Rob Zombie’s The Munsters. We also talk about communicating science in the new age of anti-rationality, how our brains can tell screens and real life apart, the best ever decade for horror, and we mock the phrase elevated horror in all the ways that stupid term deserves.

    Enjoy!

    Nightmare Fuel: The Science of Horror Films was published on July 19th by Tor Nightfire

    Other books discussed in this episode include:

    • Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers (2003), by Mary Roach
    • Found Footage and The Appearance of Reality (2014), by Alexandra Heller-Nicholls

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    101 – Nat Cassidy and Who Asked for a Body Anyway? Jul 19, 2022
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    We’re heading into largely uncharted horror waters this week with our guest Nat Cassidy.

    Nat’s debut horror novel, Mary: An Awakening of Terror dares to confront one of the last true taboos of horror fiction. No, it’s not cannibalism, or necrophilia, or the bowel movements of Tucker Carlson … no… it’s the menopause.

    That’s right. Female physiology. The horror, the terror, think of the children!!!

    Nat and I talk about why horror shies away from the topic of middle age and menopause, and why he was inspired to tell this story when he was just thirteen years old. We talk about Stephen King and Carrie and their lasting influence. And we look back at the worse year of Nat’s life, and how it helped fuel the writing of Mary.

    We also promise (and fail) to talk about Bruce Springsteen, our shared north star. Watch this space for more on that in the future.

    Enjoy!

    Mary: An Awakening of Terror is published on July 19thth by Tor Nightfire

    Other books discussed in this episode include:

    • We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families (1998), by Philip Gourevitch
    • Carrie (1974), by Stephen King
    • Parasite (1980), by Ramsey Campbell

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    100 – Paul Tremblay and the First-Person Asshole Narrator Jul 12, 2022
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    DUM DUM DUM!!! 100 episodes!!

    We did it. We reached an utterly abstract threshold together guys and we are DELIGHTED to be here.

    I’m also delighted to welcome Paul Tremblay back to the show for a neat bit of circularity (as he was the one to kick things off way back in episode 1). Paul’s new novel, The Pallbearer’s Club came out just at the right time to make him the 100th guest. I’m convinced he planned it that way.

    It’s a tale of weird adolescence, New England folklore, Punk Rock and loneliness. Sounds typically bleak right? Well it is, but it also has jokes, a heartwarming friendship and argumentative notes in the margins – so it’s both a homecoming and a departure for Paul.

    We talk about his early desire to be a musician, his obsessions with misinformation, the art of fictionalising the truth, and the fear that inspires his uniquely uncanny set-pieces.

    Oh, and we also mention a certain film adaptation that may be in the works.

    Enjoy!

    The Pallbearers Club was published on July 5th by William Morrow and Titan Books

    Other books discussed in this episode include:

    • The Bus on Thursday (2018), by Shirley Barrett
    • Lunar Park (2005), by Bret Easton Ellis
    • A Confederacy of Dunces (1980), by John Kennedy Toole
    • House of Leaves (2000), by Mark Z. Danielewski
    • Our Share of Night (2023), by Mariana Enriquez

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    99 – T. Kingfisher and the Fungus-Punk Epidemic Jul 05, 2022
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    It’s been a rough couple of weeks. So, let’s have a laugh: Poe-style!

    Our guest is T. Kingfisher. She’s an expert in taking dry, dark horror classics and investing them with newfound life. In What Moves the Dead she manages to find the gruesome joy in even the most dolorous of text.

    What Moves the Dead reconfigures and reapproaches Poe’s classic, “The Fall of the House of Usher.” It updates the year, introduces some gender fluidity, and even adds Beatrix Potter’s aunt. Yes, this is not your usual rewrite.

    It also involves mushrooms. Lots and lots of mushrooms.

    Consequently, we talk a lot about mycology – but we also get plenty of other fun stuff. Like whether we enjoy explanations in horror, how Albanian inheritance laws inspired her novella’s gender dynamics, and how her grandmother would have excelled at polygamy had it been invented.

    This episode is a sprinkle of zest into the rancid stew of life.

    Enjoy!

    What Moves the Dead is published on July 12th by Tor Nightfire

    Other books discussed in this episode include:

    • The Twisted Ones (2019), by T. Kingfisher
    • The Hollow Places (2020), by T. Kingfisher
    • Perdido Street Station (2000), by China Mievelle
    • Mexican Gothic (2020), by Silvia Moreno Garcia

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    98 – Tim McGregor and Blaming the Danish Jun 28, 2022
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    Things are a bit fishy this week, as I’m joined by long-time friend-of-the-show Tim McGregor (@TimMcGregor1) to talk about the long history of fish-tailed women and why we find them so frightening … and sexy!

    Tim’s forthcoming novella, Lure, is a mermaid story with bite! No Ariel here; Sebastian the Crab is hiding. Instead it’s about the war of attrition between a brutal patriarchal settlement and the sea-she-creature who holds them to account.

    (a little fitting for this week’s misogyny-a-thon in the Supreme Court)

    As well as mermaid lore, we also talk about Tim’s upbringing in the Ontarian wilds … and his father’s axe … as well as disagreeing on heroes and villains, and delving into Tim’s experiences on the periphery of one of the year’s biggest horror meltdowns.

    Enjoy!

    Lure is published on July 18th by Tenebrous Press

    Other books discussed in this episode include:

    • Between Two Fires (2012), by Christopher Buelhman
    • Into the Drowning Deep (2017), by Mira Grant
    • All the Murmuring Bones (2021), by Angela Slatter – (episode 29)
    • The Essex Serpent (2016), by Sarah Perry
    • The Monsters of Templeton (2008), by Lauren Groff

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    97 – A Monstrous Roundtable, with Ellen Datlow, Nathan Ballingrud, Chikodili Emelumadu & Joe R. Lansdale Jun 21, 2022
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    This week on Talking Scared it’s monsters all day, every day.

    To celebrate the release of Screams From the Dark: 29 Tales of Monsters and the Monstrous, we gather around the campfire with editor Ellen Datlow and three of her contributors – no less than Nathan Ballingrud, Chikodili Emelumadu and the great Joe R. Lansdale.

    As a result, this is not your average Talking Scared episode. There is interruption, overlap, argument much good humour.

    Amidst the chaos we still manage a fascinating conversation about the creatures that lurk in the wilds and those who walk amongst us. We talk about what makes a monster, why we love them, and where they fit in our modern hyperconnected world.

    (and they have the audacity to tell me that Bigfoot isn’t real!)

    Enjoy!

    Screams From the Dark: 29 Tales of Monsters and the Monstrous was published on June 7th by Tor Nightfire

    Other books discussed in this episode include:

    • The Wilds (2014), by Julia Elliot
    • Ormeshadow (2019), by Priya Sharma
    • Sundial (2022), by Catriona Ward
    • Road of Bones (2022), by Christopher Golden
    • And Then I Woke Up (2022), by Malcolm Devlin (episode 87)
    • The Last Storm (2022), by Tim Lebbon
    • Eden (2020), by Tim Lebbon
    • Anybody Home (2022), by Michael Siedlinger
    • Cunning Women: A Feminist Tale of Forbidden Love After the Witch Trials (2021), by Elizabeth Lee
    • Hemingway's Widow: The Life and Legacy of Mary Welsh Hemingway (2022), by Timothy Christian
    • The Writer’s Crusade: Kurt Vonnegut and the Many Lives of Slaughterhouse-Five (2021), by Tom Rosten
    • African Monsters: Volume 2 (2015), edited by Margret Hellgadotir and Jo Thomas.

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    96 – Stephen Lloyd and Cutting the Treacle Jun 14, 2022
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    We’re closing out our (very) loose trilogy of episodes devoted to sinister schools and magical children. This week it involves pentagrams and witch-burnings, which are always a good time.

    Our guest, Stephen Lloyd, is better known for his comedy than his horror. He has spent a career crafting some of the biggest sitcoms of the century (some of which helped my marriage survive lockdown). Now, he has turned his pen to something much less wholesome, in his first novel, Friend of the Devil.

    We talk about Satanism and D&D and the aftermath of Vietnam – all that stuff that made the 80s such a goddamn fun decade for so many. But we also look at how those tendrils reach into the present set of existential crises. Socio-political shi*tshows aside, Stephen discusses the difference between writing horror and writing comedy, he explains the inner workings of a TV writer’s room – and how penning a novel in isolation is a whole other thing.

    I even ask him for advice on screenwriting, because my ill-conceived ambition knows no bounds…

    Enjoy!

    Friend of the Devil was published on May 30th by G.P. Putnam

    Other books discussed in this episode include:

    • The Book of the New Sun (1980-83), by Gene Wolf
    • Screenplay: The Foundations of Screenwriting (1979), by Syd Field
    • Adventures in the Screen Trade (1983), by William Goldman

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