State Of The Game

SOG 131: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly of modern golf Sep 19, 2024

There's no shortage of division at the top of the men's game but even tawdry discussions about money can't sully the brilliance golf can offer up. Join Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri for a look at the Good, The Bad and The Ugly of golf in the mid 2020's.

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SOG 130: Frank Nobilo Jan 06, 2024

TV commentators get their fair share of criticism but few can take issue with New Zealand's Frank Nobilo who joins episode 130 of State of the Game. Nobilo is as thoughtful and articulate as any analyst in the business and he's also not afraid to speak his mind on everything from 'rollback' (he doesn't like the term) to his controversial belief that golfers are overpaid. There's also a bonus Mac O'Grady story in this episode for those who are into that sort of thing.

Links mentioned on this episode:
Geoff Shackelford's 'The Quadrilateral'

SOG 129: The Politics of Public Golf with Dan Andrews Oct 26, 2023

Public golf facilities around the world are under pressure as a recent announcement to shut down half of Moore Park in Sydney, one of the nation's busiest public courses, proves. So what are the politics of public golf in a world where cities face increasing housing pressure? Former Victorian Premier and avid golfer Dan Andrews joins the pod to discuss how golf can better make its case in the debate over how we use our public space.

SOG 128: Digging Deeper on Saudi Arabia with Dr Joshua Ralston Oct 15, 2023

LIV Golf has brought Saudi Arabia into sharp focus for golf and golfers but how much do we really know about the Kingdom and how it works? Dr Joshua Ralston from the Edinburgh University School of Divinity joins the pod to discuss some of the big, ethical questions facing golf.

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Dr Josh Ralston on The Bag Drop podcast

SOG 127: WTF Is Going On? Jun 08, 2023

Despite almost no detail of how it will play out the announcement by the PGA Tour and the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund that they have ceased legal hostilities and will instead join forces has rocked the golf world. What does it mean? Who knows but there is much to speculate on. It's also not the only thing happening in the golf world with a most intriguing US Open coming up at the Georgee Thomas designed LACC next week plus the release of co host Geoff Shackelford's latest book.

SOG 126: Grab A Drink Because This One Is All About The Ball Mar 18, 2023

It's taken 126 episodes and lord knows how much drinking by you, the loyal SOG listeners, but finally the USGA and R and A have listened and the ball is going to be rolled back. Sure it's not enough and of course it's too late but it's a step in the right direction and that's cause for celebration.

SOG 125: It's Been A While Feb 02, 2023

Even for State of the Game it's been a long break and even for us it's a long episode. But there was a lot to get through with Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton on Episode 125 including (but not limited to) The Australian Summer of Golf, LIV, the changing nature of digital media, how architecture has become more mainstream, a Seven Mile Beach update and plenty more as well. There's also some chat about Geoff's upcoming book Golf Architecture For Normal People which you can pre order at the links below.

Pre order the new Geoff Shackelford book in the US at Amazon and in Australia at Booktopia.

SOG 124: Seven Mile Beach Update Sep 08, 2022

Let's leave the parlous state of world golf behind for a while and get back to talking one of our favourite topics here on SOG: course architecture. On Ep 124 Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri welcome Mike Devries and Mat Goggin for an update on the highly anticipated Seven Mile Beach project in Hobart, Tasmania. For those playing the drinking game Ep 124 will be disappointing...you can leave the bottle opener in the drawer as there's not a single mention of distance (or even LIV Golf!)

SOG 123: The Open with Matt Griffin Aug 05, 2022

Theodore Roosevelt said it best in his 'Man in the Arena' speech more than 100 years ago and we took note in this episode of State of the Game. Matt Griffin, who teed up at the 150th Open, joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to talk all things St Andrews.

SOG 122: Enough LIV, Time To Talk the Old Course Jul 07, 2022

It won't go away but LIV Golf and all its implications can take a back seat for the next two weeks as golf hopefully celebrates everything good about the game with an Open Championship at the Old Course. Come along for the ride as Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton talk all things St Andrews.

SOG 121: Joe Ogilvie talks LIV Golf Jun 23, 2022

There's probably not a lot left to say on the LIV Golf situation but when you get the chance to pick the brains of someone as smart as Joe Ogilvie you grab it.

SOG 120: Distance Insights and more Mar 19, 2022

It's happening too slowly for many but it does look like it IS happening. Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton join host Rod Morri to discuss the 'under the radar' distance announcement, TPC Sawgrass, the Saudi League and more.

SOG 119: Well That Escalated Quickly Mar 03, 2022

The Mickelson mess, the Norman missive, the distance report, beer throwing at Phoenix, falling TV ratings...take your pick we discuss it all with Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton on Ep 119 of State of the Game.

118: Is The Sandbelt Invitational the Future of Golf? Dec 28, 2021

It was the most intriguing tournament of the year on multiple fronts but does the Sandbelt Invitational have a future? Tournament Director and State of the Game co-host Mike Clayton joins Geoff Shackelford and Rod Morri for an in depth and behind the scenes look at the event that had golf nerds the world over salivating.

SOG 117: Golf's Hot Mess: Greg Norman, Saudi Arabia, The PGL and the PGA Tour Nov 11, 2021

Having trouble keeping up with who's who and what's what in the tumultuous world of rival golf leagues? Join the club. Thankfully, State of the Game co-host Geoff Shackelford is across it all as he joins Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to explain the evolving world Golf Order, the green reading book ban and the intriguing Sandbelt Invitational.

SOG Ep 116: So Yeon Ryu Oct 18, 2021

In a world of all too often non-descript players, Korea's So Yeon Ryu stands out. Intelligent, thoughtful, eloquent and funny - all in a second language - what a treat it was to welcome the former World Number One to episode 116 alongside Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri.

SOG 115:Ryder Cup Preview With Andrew Coltart Sep 16, 2021

It's that time in the golf cycle again....the interminable wait for the Ryder Cup to get underway. With a week and a bit to go before the first ball is struck former European Tour player now Sky Sorts commentator Andrew Coltart joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to talk all things Whistling Straits and more.

SOG 114: Lawrence Donegan On McKellar, Matchplay and More Aug 31, 2021

McKellar Magazine co-founder Lawrence Donegan joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to talk about his recent trip to Scotland, the performance of his son Niall at the British Boys Championship, the success and future of McKellar magazine and more. And there's a special reward for those who stick around till the end, after you hear it click the link below and enjoy.

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SOG 113: Richard Gillis and Golf's New World Order Aug 13, 2021

For just the second time in its 12-year history, State of the Game bears an 'Explicit' badge this week. Why, you ask? You'll need to listen to find out but among the topics covered are: Is 'Strategic Alliance' really just code for a PGA Tour takeover of the European Tour? And if so, is that a bad thing? One of sports business' best analysts Richard Gillis joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri on Episode 113 to dissect what's happening at the top end of professional golf.
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SOG 112: PGL v PGA Tour Jun 12, 2021

Washington journalist and golf nut Arthur MacMillan joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to chat Premier Golf League, Jon Rahm and Covid, the US Open and plenty more.

SOG 111: Hideki and the PIP Apr 25, 2021

The impact of Hideki's win in his homeland and the PGA Tour's Player Impact Program. Plenty to talk about when eight time major winning caddy and Japan resident Tom Watson joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri for Episode 111 of State of the Game.

SOG 110: Distance Insights Feb 10, 2021

Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton have been two of the most consistent and credible voices in the distance debate for the past 20 years and with the governing bodies looking likely to finally act, they have their say on Episode 110.

SOG 109: Super Sized Golf With Phil Blackmar Jan 17, 2021

He writes too infrequently but when Phil Blackmar puts pen to paper it is always worth reading. The former PGA Tour player turned Golf Channel analyst joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri on Episode 109 to talk about his most recent blog post, Golf's Biggest Self.
You can read the post here and the rest of Blackmar's blog posts here.

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SG 108: The Masters With Lukas Michel Nov 19, 2020

A look at the 2020 Masters from both inside and outside the ropes when Lukas Michel joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri.

SOG 107: Brandel And The Claytonites Oct 30, 2020

On Episode 107 we welcome author Daniel Wexler to discuss his latest book A Timeless Game but quickly run off topic into the future of golf in urban centres, equipment technology and the distance debate and there is some pontificating early on about Brandel Chamblee's personal attack on co-host Mike Clayton and those who agree with his views on the game.

Find Daniel's book on Amazon here

Ep 106: Will Winged Foot Be The Turning Point In The Distance Debate? Sep 23, 2020

It's the topic everyone is talking about but not everyone is Mike Clayton and Geoff Shackelford. Two of the most respected voices in the game weigh in on Bryson, Winged Foot and the future of golf.

Ep 105: Geoff Ogilvy, The Bryson Debate and More Jul 04, 2020

Will Bryson DeChambeau change the game? What is the role of mentors in golf? How much time should a US Open champion spend on YouTube and Instagram looking at golf swings? All that and more on Episode 105 of State of the Game with Geoff Shackelford, Geoff Ogilvy and Mike Clayton.

Links menitoned on this episode:
Sandy Jamieson's brilliant 1Club concept

The TalkinGolf Network

The Thing About Golf podcast episode with Karrie Webb

Geoff Shackelford on Twitter and his new Podcast The Shack Show

Mike Clayton on Twitter

Rod Morri on Twitter

Ep 104: What Will Become Of The European Tour? Apr 15, 2020

With professional golf on hold for the foreseeable future only one thing is certain: the pay for play game will look very different on the other side of the Corona Virus pandemic. Can the European Tour survive the current crisis and if not will it be the PGA Tour or the Premier Golf League that becomes its saviour? Just one of the myriad questions pondered when Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri are joined by sports business expert Richard Gillis on Episode 104 of State of the Game.

Links mentioend on this episode:

Geoff Shackelford on Twitter and his new Podcast The Shack Show

Mike Clayton on Twitter

Rod Morri on Twitter

Richard Gillis on Twitter and the excellent Unofficial Partner Podcast

Ep 103: The Corona Virus Episode Mar 20, 2020

It's all anybody's talking about. Including us. The Corona Virus has touched every facet of life, golf included, and is going to do so for the foreseeable future. What does it mean for professional and recreational golf? Who knows? Certainly not Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri but we chat about it anyway.

Ep 102: The Show We Never Thought We'd Have Feb 07, 2020

Finally. That's been the predominant response to the Distance Insights Report released earlier this week, a document that may well change the shape of the game for decades to come. Among the most vocal agitators for action on this issue for the past two decades have been Mike Clayton and Geoff Shackelford and on Ep 102 they have their say on the report and what it means.

Ep 101: The Premier Golf League Bombshell Jan 28, 2020

Not for the first time a World Golf Tour has been proposed with the noble intention of having 'the best play against the best more often'. Premier League Golf has been in the planning for several years and many of the world's top players have admitted to being interested. But can the PGA Tour put a stop to it and if not what would that mean for the Tour and the rest of world golf? Join Geoff Shackelford - the journalist who broke the story - Mike Clayton and Rod Morri as they ponder the potential fallout.

SOG Ep100: And they said we'd never make it... Jan 22, 2020

It was exactly eight years ago today we released Episode One of 'The golf podcast that talks about stuff that matters' and 100 shows later has anything really changed in the game? The answer - as always - is both yes and no. There are dozens more golf podcasts to choose from, 'fan media' is apparently a thing and both the European and PGA Tours have different leaders. But the ball still goes too far, lots of players still don't 'get it' and Mike Clayton is still - despite what Miguel Angel Jimenez might say - the most interesting man in golf (as well as being among its greatest contributors). Episode 100 is not a look back show but if you're in the market for an interesting experiment head to the link below and have a listen to that first episode and you'll hear many of the same themes resonate in the game in 2020.

Links for this episode:
Network sponsor The Golf Society

The debut episode of State of the Game

SOG Ep 099: A Very Special Announcement Oct 16, 2019

State of the Game co-host Mike Clayton has some very special news to share on episode 99 of the show.
After almost 10 years alongside Geoff Ogilvy, Mike Cocking and Ashley Mead in the OCCM design firm the former European Tour player has departed the company in search of new opportunities. First up is an announcement that he will be a collaborative partner with two of the world's best known and most highly respected designers, Frank Pont and Mike DeVries, in a new venture called CDP Golf. The trio join Rod Morri on this special edition of the show to lay out how the partnership came to be and what they plan to do in the future.

Links mentioned on this episode:
Our Network Sponsor, The Golf Society

The new CDP Golf website

Mike Clayton's new website

Frank Pont's Infinite Variety Golf Design website

Mike DeVries' website

CDP Golf on Twitter

Infinite Variety on Twitter

Devries Designs on Twitter

Mike Clayton on Twitter

Special Guests: Frank Pont and Mike DeVries.

SOG Ep 098: Distance, Money and Brandel Chamblee Sep 03, 2019

Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and host Rod Morri delve into recent happenings in the world of golf and analyse what it means for the bigger picture. From the distance debate (of course) and changes in the PGA Tour schedule to whether a $15 million payday is off putting and is the LPGA playing courses that are too easy? All that comes under the microscope as well as Brandel Chamblee's surprise switch of position back to advocating for bifurcation of the professional and amateur game.

Links mentioned on this podcast:

Titleist VP of Marketing Michael Mahoney on the Golf Unfiltered podcast (the distance discussion starts around the 33 minute mark)

Mike Clayton on Bradley Hughes' podcast:

Part One

Part Two (highly recommended)

SOG Ep 097: The Open Washup And Is Something Happening With The Ball? Jul 27, 2019

The success of Royal Portrush, Xander Schauffele and the driver controversy, are the authorities planning to do something about the ball in the autumn and why you can't say anything bad about Memphis. All that and more in episode 97 of State of the Game.

Links mentioend on this episode:
Geoff's story on the Distance Report

Mark Giannotto's passionate defence of the Memphis tournament

Kyle Porter's Tweet that started the controversy

SOG Ep 096: McGinley Takes Irish Open Back To The Future Jun 28, 2019

There is much excitement among architecture types about next week's Irish Open at the famed Lahinch in County Clare. Tournament host Paul McGinley joins Episode 96 of the show to explain how he plans to take the event back to the future making the on-site experience one that far exceeds watching on TV. The 2014 Ryder Cup captain says tournament goers can expect a festival atmosphere in the tiny town of Lahinch as the entire week will be a celebration of the game.

Special Guest: Paul McGinley.

SOG Ep 095: Expect A Spiritual US Open At Pebble beach Jun 10, 2019

As the Old Course is to Scotland so Pebble Beach is to America and a US Open on the Monterey Peninsula is something a bit special. Join Pebble beach devotee Geoff Shackelford alongside Mike Clayton and Rod Morri for a breakdown of what role the course might play at this week's 119th US Open as well as some discussion on the Hank Haney controversy from last week's US Women's Open and what the fallout might mean in the bigger picture.

Links mentioned on this episode:

Geoff Shackelford's story from sectional qualifying

Geoff Sackelford's piece on the importance of the 1929 US Amateur at Pebble Beach

SOG Ep 094: Barnbougle Dunes Course Study Tour May 29, 2019

It always promised to be an interesting experiment and it was. The inaugural State of the Game Golf Course Study Tour to Barnbougle Dunes earlier this month had a bit of everything but, as expected, the highlight was the chance to sit down with Mike Clayton for an 'unplugged' podcast/Q&A session. Clayton touches on everything from how the Barnbougle project got off the ground to stories from the European Tour from the 80's and 90's. Its everything you'd expect it to be and more and if you missed out on this one hopefully this episode helps convince you what a mistake you made and to come along for the next one!

Links mentioend on this episode:
Barnbougle Dunes

The Fried Egg podcast with Allan Jamieson

The Golf Travel Agency who made the whole trip possibe and get the State of the Game tick of approval.

SOG Ep 093: Bob Denney on AW Tillinghast May 09, 2019

With the PGA Championship set to return to the Bethpage Black course in New York next week there will be plenty of discussion about course design AW Tillinghast. While known mostly as a course architect, Tillinghast had many more strings to his bow including a well known - though little understood - tour of the US during the depression years to advise courses on more financially sustainable management practises. What is less known is the extensive records he kept of that period and PGA Historian Bob Denney joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri on Episode 93 to delve into the life and times of one of the game's great contributors.

Links:

Geoff Shackelford on Twitter

Mike Clayton on Twitter

Rod Morri on Twitter

Special Guest: Bob Denney.

SOG Ep 092 Master Coach Denis Pugh May 03, 2019

Denis Pugh is a 40 year overnight success story. In his early years as a coach his theories were often scorned but having worked with more than 200 touring professionals - including Colin Montgomerie, our own Mike Clayton and of course the reigning Open Champion Francesco Molinari - his thirst for knowledge and communication skills have been proven. Denis talks everything from what it takes to succeed at the top level in the modern game to how he helped Molinari go from merely very good to truly elite.

Special Guest: Denis Pugh.

SOG Ep 091 The Masters Big Picture Apr 22, 2019

Tiger Woods winning his fifth green jacket was something special but The Masters is about so much more than just the 72 holes each year. Join Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri as they break down what the 2019 Masters means in the bigger picture, from changes to the course (in particular the fifth hole) to media, technology and the role of the Augusta National Women's Amateur. Oh, and there's a brief mention of the possibility that distance might be an issue as well.

SOG Ep 090: Old Course Rough and Rules, Rules, Rules Mar 02, 2019

Is golf going into meltdown or are we just having a rough patch because of the new rules? Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri delve into the seemingly weekly rules snafus in the professional game while also touching on the 'enhanced' rough we can expect at the 2021 Open at St Andrews and what might happen if the pro game made its own rules.

Links mentioned in this episode:

John Huggan talks to R&A Chief Martin Slumbers

Watson and Seve at St Andrews (19.03 is the start of the drama at the 17th):

Information and booking form for the Barnbougle Dunes Course Study Tour

SOG Ep 089: Saudi Arabia, Hao Tong Li and Augusta National Feb 01, 2019

The storm over the European Tour's visit to Saudi Arabia is only intensifying but it's not the only controversy bubbling in golf. There is still lots of disquiet over the penalising of Hao Tong Li in Dubai as well as discussion about Lucas Herbert's explanation of his actions in removing loose impediments with his club in wasteland at the same event. It's not all bad news though, with Geoff Shackelford believing changes to the 5th hole at Augusta National made public this week suggest the course may be moving back in the right direction. You can find Geoff's excellent 2010 piece, which is referenced on the episode, here. To get in on the Barnbougle Dunes Course Study Tour click here.

SOG Ep 088: Lucy Li and the Rules of Amateur Status Jan 11, 2019

Most were expecting a rules controversy early in 2019 but few could have predicted what has transpired with 16-year-old Lucy Li. The world's number nine ranked non-professional player looks all but certain to be stripped of her amateur status after appearing in an online video ad promoting the Apple watch in direct contravention of the rules.The USGA is yet to release a formal decision but SOG co-host Geoff Shackelford says in many ways the issue is one of the USGA's own making. Mike Clayton has some thoughts on Royal Melbourne where he is caddying in this week's Master of the Amateurs tournament, we ask if Adam Scott might be the saviour of the Presidents Cup and for those playing the drinking game at home the advice is to go easy in the early stages. Also, don't forget our course study tour to Barnbougle Dunes with Mike Clayton coming up in May. You not only get to play some holes with Mike but also have the oportunity to pick the brain of one of the the game's most interesting thinkers and forthright speakers on any and all things golf. It will be golf nerd heaven so for more details and to book your place download the brochure and booking form here.

SOG Ep 087: Ru Macdonald and the power of Instagram Dec 23, 2018

Interested in golf course architecture and wondering the best social media platform to indulge your passion? Golf Channel regular, popular blogger and SOG co-host Geoff Shackelford says Instagram is the best and makes his case - with the help of Scottich Golf Podcast host and European Tour Social media team member Ru Macdonald - on episode 87 of SOG. There are a bunch of Instagram accounts menitoned in this episode (find the list below) as well as plenty of good advice on how to use the platofrom fo those who are new to it. Also, keep an eye out for Mike Clayton's promised Instagram Story in coming weeks to promote the 2019 SOG Golf Course Study Tour to Barnbougle Dunes. Follow Mike here and check out details of the Tour, including a brochure and booking form, here. You can follow Geoff Shackelford here, Ru Macdonald here and Rod Morri here (though not much content there yet). And below is the suggested accounts to follow discussed on the show. Full marks to Geoff Shackelford for uncovering Walter Geoffrey the French bulldog, easily the pick of the non golf suggestons!
Gary Lisbon golf photography
Bob Menery
Jon Cavalier (Links Gems)
Cruden Bay Golf Club
Sweetens Cove Golf Club
AirSwingMedia
European Tour
Erik Anders Lang
Christian Hafer (Hafe Life)
Castles of Scotland

Special Guest: Ru Macdonald.

SOG Ep 086: Richard Gillis and Over The Top TV Dec 16, 2018

Golf on TV is big business and its in the midst of some dramatic change. Sports business writer and consultant Richard Gillis joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to explain the concept of 'Over the top TV' and why the game's two biggest Tours - and Tiger Woods - are rushing to be a part of it. Also, for the golf course architecture nuts, places are now open for our Golf Course Study Tour to Barnbougle Dunes with Mike Clayton in May 2019. Three days of golf including playing with Mike Clayton and lots of talk about GCA and the game more broadly for less than $1500. All you have to do is get yourself to Launceston airport and the rest is taken care of. Check out the information page, send us an email using the link at the bottom and we'll be in touch to finalise details.

Special Guest: Richard Gillis.

SOG Ep 085: Golf's New Rules Nov 22, 2018

Golf's new rules come into effect in less than two months but how many people are really ready? USGA Manager of Rules Outreach & Programming Joe Foley joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to discuss that plus lots more including backstopping and the potential for bifurcating the game's equipment rules. Also, we are excited to announce our inaugural Golf Course Architecture golf and live podcast Tour will take place May 3-5 2019 at one of the game's greatest public venues, Barnbougle Dunes in Tasmania. Three days of golf including playing holes with Mike Clayton and be part of recording an episode of the State of the Game podcast. Check out the GCA Tours tab at the top of the page for pricing and other details then click the link to register your interest via email.

SOG Ep 084: The Euro Tour and Saudi Arabia Nov 15, 2018

Should the European Tour be playing a tournament in Saudi Arabia? Simple question, complicated set of answers. Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri are joined by Middle East expert Arthur MacMillan to discuss the as yet unnamed Saudi event and what its future might be in the wake of the murder of journalist Jamal Khassoggi. There's also some thoughts on Rory McIlroy's commments on the European Tour, some Tiger observations and a heartwarming story about Mike Clayton from his playing days.

SOG Ep 083: Jason Day Architecture Critic Oct 14, 2018

Is the handicap system killing golf's adventurous spirit? Will we ever see George Thomas' 'course within a course' concept catch on? Does Jason Day have any credibility when he suggests architects are to blame in golf's distance debate? Is the Tiger/Phil match just the first in what could become a new golf franchise? All this plus some chat about the Ryder Cup course, Tiger Woods' unusual interview at Le Golf National and we ask if there is simply too much professional golf being played? We hope you enjoy Episode 83 of State of the Game.

Episode 82: SOG Ep 82 Ran Morrissett Sep 13, 2018

Last month Ran Morrissett published a list of 147 courses he nominated as 'Custodians of the Game'. The venues all promote the simplest and most joyful elements of the game, from width and playing angles to walking and simple green keeping practises. But the pre-amble to the list was at least as - if not more interesting than - the list itself and Ran joins Mike Clayton and host Rod Morri to discuss his thinking when putting together his list.

Episode 81: SOG Ep 81 - The Tiger/Phil Match (and more) Aug 30, 2018

Sometimes there is so much to talk about you don't need a guest and episode 81 of State of the Game comes at just such a time. From the Tiger/Phil big money match to reactions to Bellerive to Inbee Park's slap in the face from one of the game's biggest manufacturers and the possibility of a PGA and PGA Tour merger, its all happening in the world of golf. Join Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and host Rod Morri for an unfiltered take on important recent happenings in the world of professional golf.

Episode 80: SOG Episode 80 - Andrew Coltart and Scottish Golf Aug 01, 2018

Mike Clayton and Rod Morri are joined by former Ryder Cup player Andrew Coltart to discuss the state of Scottish, and world golf. Coltart won the 1997 Australian PGA at NSW Golf Club, a tournament made famous by another incident involving Clayton himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl_Nny8TwNM

Episode 79: SOG Ep 79 US Open fallout - the big picture Jun 29, 2018

It's been a couple of weeks but the controversy from the US Open continues to bubble with many believing the USGA has lost a significant amount of credibility after happenings at Shinnecock Hills. Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton join Rod Morri to discuss the long term fallout from the 118th US Open as well as some Ryder Cup chat and more memories of Peter Thomson. For the reprint of Thomson's book mentioned, https://www.slatterymedia.com

Episode 78: SOG Ep 78 - Clayton remembers Peter Thomson Jun 22, 2018

Peter Thomson was a giant of the game, not only in Australia but around the world. His five Open titles put him among the greats in history but his contributions to golf extend far beyond simply his brilliance with clubs in hand. His writings on the game and key role in establishing golf in parts of the world previously unknown sets him apart from his peers and he will forever be cherished. In Episode 78, Mike Clayton remembers the Peter Thomson he knew, sharing first hand stories of times spent with the great man as well as some of Thomson's most interesting thoughts from his book A Life In Golf. Anyone with an interest in golf would be well advised to read Thomson's musings (copies of the book can be purchased through Slattery Media), his thoughts on everything from the golf swing to the courses the game is played on and the impact of technology a worthy addition to any golf library.

Episode 77: SOG Ep 77 Trinity Forest May 17, 2018

2006 US Open winner Geoff Ogilvy joins Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to talk about the new and intriguing Byron Nelson host venue Trinity Forest. With the course dominating pre-tournament talk, Ogvily outlines some of the reasons Trinity Forest will be an entertaining and important test this week. We also get some thoughts on whether he will consider a career as a commentator once his playing days are over and there's a bonus 10 minutes of 'fly on the wall' chat as Ogilvy and Clayton shoot the breeze about the professional game.

Episode 76: SOG Ep 76 Mar 18, 2018

PGA Tour player and course architecture junkie Zac Blair joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri on Episode 76 to talk the distance debate, course architecture, The Buck Club project and more.

Episode 75: SOG Ep 75 - The Ball Debate Mar 07, 2018

Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton join host Rod Morri to break down the ball debate which has broken out in the recent weeks.

Episode 74: SOG Ep 74 Nov 07, 2017

Billy Dettlaff is a retired golf professional who has produced a stunning new book on the history of his craft. The extraordinary end result is a book of both stunning beauty and historical importance. Billy joined Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri on Episode 74 to discuss the book, Doctors of the Game, while there was also some banter about what impact, if any, Tiger Woods' comments on the ball may have.

Episode 73: SOG Episode 73 Oct 10, 2017

It's been a while but Episode 73 is worth the wait as Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri are joined by Geoff Ogilvy to talk Presidents Cup, players not marking on the green before opponents hit their shot, where the best crowds in the world are to be found (this one was a surprise) and plenty more.

Episode 72: SOG Ep 72 Mat Goggin Apr 28, 2017

20 year Tour veteran Mat Goggin joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to discuss the fallout from the Lexi Thompson rules controversy and more on episode 72 of State of the Game.

Episode 71: SOG Episode 71 - Geoff Ogilvy Masters preview Apr 01, 2017

Golf's best interview, 2006 US Open winner Geoff Ogilvy, joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to discuss next week's Masters - and a whole lot more - on episode 71 of State of the Game.

Episode 70: SOG Ep 70 Dottie Pepper Jan 19, 2017

Former player and CBS commentator Dottie Pepper joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri for an all encompassing chat about the state of the game, golf course architecture and lots more on episode 70.

Episode 69: SOG Ep 69 Nov 01, 2016

Does the Titleist float tell us anything about the state of the game, are more golfers 'getting' course architecture and can 72 hole stroke play continue to be the future of the game? Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton break down all that and more with host Rod Morri on episode 69 of State of the Game.

Episode 68: SOG Ep 68 Richard Gillis Sep 21, 2016

Richard Gillis' new book The Captain Myth is a fascinating study of the role of the Captains at the biennial Ryder Cup. On episode 68 he joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to discuss the book and so much more about the game and business of golf.

Episode 67: SOGEp 67 Roger Cleveland Jun 24, 2016

Legendary club designer and short game expert Roger Cleveland has been around the world's best players for the best part of 40 years and joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri on episode 67 of State of the Game.

Episode 66: SOG Ep 66 - Geoff Ogilvy at Oakmont Jun 15, 2016

2006 US Open winner Geoff Ogilvy joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to discuss the year's second major at Oakmont.

Episode 65: SOG Ep 6- The Masters (sort of) Apr 01, 2016

Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri chat about the upcoming US Masters plus get sidetracked by all things effecting the game both on and off the course.

Episode 64: SOG Ep 64 Christina Kim Mar 06, 2016

Christina Kim is one of the LPGA Tour's most popular and outspoken players and she joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayotn and Rod Morri for episode 64 of State of the Game.

Episode 63: SOG Ep 63 the BBC's Iain Carter Jan 06, 2016

After one of the most memorable years in major championship golf BBC golf correspondent Iain Carter has written a book simply title The Majors 2015. He joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to discuss that, and a range of other topics, on this episode of State of the Game.

Episode 62: SOG Episode 62 - Ru Macdonald Nov 13, 2015

Ru Macdonald is host of the brilliant Scottish Golf Podcast which publishes weekly and he joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri on this episode to discuss all things golf in Scotland.

Episode 61: SOG Episode 61 Oct 27, 2015

Co-host Mike Clayton has been travelling the globe and doubles as guest this week when he joins Geoff Shackelford and Rod Morri to talk Presidents Cup, why Korea's women are so good and an impending golf downturn in China.

Episode 60: SOG Ep 60 Grant Waite Sep 05, 2015

Former PGA Tour now Champions Tour player Grant Waite joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to chat all things Tiger Woods, Chris Como, Greg Norman and golf in general.

Episode 59: SOG Ep 59 - UK Golf Jul 29, 2015

Mike Clayton and Geoff Shackelford join Rod Morri to talk about golf in the UK with both having attended The Open at St Andrews and squeezed in a bunch of extra golf as well.

Episode 58: SOG Ep 58 Geoff Ogilvy Jun 27, 2015

Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri are joined by 2006 US Open champion Geoff Ogilvy to talk Chambers Bay and the upcoming Open Championship.

Episode 57: SOG Episode 57 Jun 12, 2015

Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri are joined by golf course architect Jay Blasi, the man largely responsible for the design of US Open host course Chambers Bay

Episode 56: SOG EP 56 The new Hogan company May 29, 2015

Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri talk to Terry Koehler, the man behind bringing Hogan golf clubs back to the game

Episode 55: SOG Ep 55 Gil Capps Apr 24, 2015

Geoff Shackelford, Mike CLayton and Rod Morri are joined by their first return SOG guest, NBC and Golf Channel stalwart Gil Capps.

Episode 54: SOG Ep 54 Michael Bamberger Mar 27, 2015

Award winning Sports Illustrated writer Michael Bamberger joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to talk about his new book Men In Green to be released in April.

Episode 53: SOG Episode 53 Mar 19, 2015

Mike Clayton and Geoff Shackelford join Rod Morri to talk US Masters, golf course design and set up and potential merger talks between European and Australian Tours...

Episode 52: SOG Ep 52 Royal Melbourne and Riviera Mar 03, 2015

Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton join host Rod Morri to discuss, among other things, the effect of course set up on Royal Melbourne and Riviera as they hosted professional tournaments in the same week.

Episode 51: SOG Ep 51 Tiger's yips Feb 05, 2015

Geof Shackelford and Mike Clayton join host Rod Morri to chat Tiger's yips, Rory's dominance, Olympic golf and more on episode 51 of State of the Game.

Episode 50: SOG EP 50 Hank Haney Dec 09, 2014

Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri are joined by Hank Haney, former coach to Tiger Woods and host of his own satellite radio show.

Episode 49: SOG Ep 49 Musician Lloyd Cole Nov 26, 2014

Musician Lloyd Cole is as passionate about golf as he is music and chats with Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri about his love for the game.

Episode 48: SOG Ep 48 Royal Melbourne Nov 01, 2014

Ted Bishop, Tom Watson and some general chit chat about the beauty of Royal Melbourne and watching golf from the fairways instread of behind ropes...

Episode 47: SOG Ep 47 Oct 28, 2014

Many in the golf industry are looking to China for the future growth in the game but things aren't quite so simple says Dan Washburn, author of The Forbidden Game: Golf and the Chinese Dream.

Episode 46: SOG-Ep-46 The Ryder Cup Sep 21, 2014

Brian Keogh of the Irish Golf Desk joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike CLayton and Rod Morri to talk all things Ryder CUp

Episode 45: SOG Ep 45 - Joe Ogilvie Sep 05, 2014

He's been touted as a future Commissioner of the PGA TOUR and is regarded as one of the game's most interesting professionals and Joe Ogilvie joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to talk all things golf on this episode of State of the Game

Episode 44: SOG Ep 44 - Frank Nobilo Aug 21, 2014

Former Touring Professional now Golf Channel analyst Frank Nobilo joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to talk all things golf.

Episode 43: SOG Ep 43 - How golf clubs become Royal Jul 30, 2014

Golf course architect Scott Macpherson from Scott Macpherson Golf Design chats about his fascinating new book on the world's 66 Royal golf clubs as well as discussing the controversial changes to the Old Course.

Episode 42: SOG Ep 42 Tom Watson (not THAT Tom Watson) Jul 12, 2014

Mike Clayton and Rod Morri catch up with Tom Watson, Australian caddie to 2011 US Women's Open champion So Yeon Ryu, just hours before the first round of the Women's British Open at Royal Birkdale

Episode 41: SOG Ep 41 Bill Fields Jul 04, 2014

Golf World senior writer Bill Fields joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to discuss his new book Arnie, Seve and a Fleck of golf history.

Episode 40: SOG EP 40 "Pinehurst back to its best" Jun 04, 2014

Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri chat with auhtor Chris Buie about his intirguing book "The Early Days of Pinehurst"

Episode 39: SOG Ep 39 Ran Morrissett May 22, 2014

Mike Clayton, Geoff Shackelford and Rod Morri are joined by co-founder of GolfClubAtlas, Ran Morrissett

Episode 38: SOG EP 38: Marketing with Richard Gillis May 15, 2014

Mike Clayton, Geoff Shackelford and Rod Morri chat with author, journalist and publisher of the unofficialpartner.co.uk blog Richard Gillis about all things advertising and marketing in the modern game of golf.

Episode 37: SOG-Ep-37: Is Bubba the future of golf? Apr 18, 2014

Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton join Rod Morri tobreak down the week at Augusta National as well as discuss some of the issues confronting the women's professinal game.

Episode 36: SOG Ep 36: "This Masters defined Nicklaus" Mar 29, 2014

Geoff Shackelford, Mike CLayton and Rod Morri are joined by auhtor Gil Capps to discuss his excellent new book on the 1975 US MAsters

Episode 35: SOG Ep 35: "Putting is overrated" Mar 13, 2014

Professor Marl Broadie joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to discuss his new book Every Shot Counts.

Episode 34: SOG Ep 34 - Author Curt Sampson Feb 12, 2014

Mike Clayton, Geoff Shackelford and Rod Morri chat with best selling author Curt Sampson.

Episode 33: SOG-Ep33 - "Top 100 PGA tour players - the numbers don't lie" Jan 31, 2014

Join host Rod Morri with Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton as they talk with Brett Avery about his controversial ranking of the top 100 players of the PGA Tour since 1980...

Episode 32: SOG EP 32:" RM was the star of the show…" Nov 28, 2013

Mike Clayton and Geoff Shackelford join host Rod Morri to break down two weeks of tournament golf at Royal Melbourne.

Episode 31: SOG Ep 31 "I tried to save Tiger…" Nov 15, 2013

David Eger joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to discuss the Tiger Woods Masters ruling, state of the Champions Tour, politics among the game's governing bodies and more on episode 31 of State of the Game

Episode 30: SOG-Ep 30 "Tiger's chase makes Jack's record better..." Oct 29, 2013

Mike CLayton, Geoff Shackelford and Rod Morri welcome Golf World Editor Jaime Diaz to the show this week to talk all things Tiger Woods, golf media and the State of the Game...

Episode 29: SOG Ep 29: "The Tour is not golf... Oct 09, 2013

Geoff Shacklford and Mike Clayton join host Rod Mori as they chat with GolfWeek architectiure editor brad Klein about hie new book Wide Open Fairways: A Journey Across the Landscapes of Modern Golf

Episode 28: SOG-EP 28 "The camera has changed the game.." Oct 01, 2013

Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton join host Rod Morri in a chat with TV analyst and former player Judy Rankin

Episode 27: SOG Ep 27 - "Do we need to simplify the rules?" Sep 16, 2013

On this epsidoe Mike Clayton, Geoff Shackelford and Rod Morri catch up with two former USGA staffers who have formulated two simplified sets of rules for the game.

Episode 26: SOG Ep 26 "We don't need more beer drinking cart driving golfers..." Aug 26, 2013

Mike Clayton and Geoff Shackelford join host Rod Morri to discuss all things golf from The Open Championship and US PGA to the new USGA TV deal with FOX in the US.

Episode 25: SOG Ep 25 - "UK golf reminds me why I play..." Jul 12, 2013

Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri are joined by special guest Geoff Ogilvy to talk all things Muirfield, Open Championhsip and golf in general...

Episode 24: SOG-Ep-24 "Talent is only the entry fee in professional golf..." Jun 28, 2013

Mike Clayton, Geoff Shackelford and host Rod Morri are joined by Australian Touring Professional and US Open participant Mathew Goggin to get his take on Merion and the state of the game more generally.

Episode 23: SOG Ep 23: "They said Merion would never host again.." Jun 06, 2013

Jeff Silverman, author of a soon to be released book on the great Championship moments at Merion Golf Club, joins Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to give some fascinating insights into the host course of next week's US Open venue.

Episode 22: SOG Episode 22: "Anchoring will be hard to police..." May 28, 2013

Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton join host Rod Morri to discuss the anchoring ban, racism in the game and how the Rio course is progressing as the clock ticks down to 2016....

Episode 21: SOG-Ep-21 - "The European Tour IS Seve..." May 05, 2013

On this episode of State of the Game we welcome special guest Tony Johnstone, six time European Tour winner and now TV commentator, as he joins Mike Clayton and Rod Morri to talk all things State of the Game plus tell a few stories form the glory days of the European Tour....

Episode 20: SOG Ep 20 - "Australia's last sporting mountain..." Apr 16, 2013

Adam Scott had a nation cheering with his Masters victory but it was only one intriguing storyline from a tournament that always seems to produce drama.Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton join Rod Morri to review one of golf's great weeks....

Episode 19: SOG Ep 19 - "The Masters is all about the course... Apr 05, 2013

More than just a golf tournament the year's first major brings together everybody who is anybody in golf. Join Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and host Rod Morri as they discuss what's likely to happen on and off the course at this year's US Masters

Episode 18: SOG EP 18: PGA of America President Ted Bishop Mar 29, 2013

PGA of America President Ted Bishop has ben vocal in his stance against the proposed anchoring ban. On this episdoe Bishop explains the thinking behind that stance as well as the possibility of bifurcation.

Episode 17: SOG Ep 17: "I hope the end game is the ball..." Mar 04, 2013

On today's episode Mike Clayton, Geoff Shackelford and John Huggan join host Rod Morri to discuss the surprise announement by Tim Finchem that the US PGA Tour would oppose the proposed ban on anchored putters. The team also discusses Rory McIlroy's poor play since switching to Nike and the Australian PGA's move to a golf course not in the country's top 100

Episode 16: SOG Ep 16 "They're only selling hope..." Feb 01, 2013

Bifurcation, slow play an the Vijay Singh banned substance debacle...all that and more on 2013's first episode of State of the Game with Geoff Shackelford and Mike Clayton....

Episode 15: SOG Ep-15: "What they're doing is unforgiveable..." Nov 30, 2012

Two monumental announcements were made this week: The Old Course at St Andrews is under the surgeon's knife and anchored putting will be outlawed in 2016. Host Rod Morri is joined by Geoff Shackelford, John Huggan and Mike Clayton to dicsuss two of golf's biggest announcements in recent memory (and be prepared for a healthy dose of outrage)...

Episode 14: SOG Ep 14: "My mum could captain the Ryder Cup..." Oct 05, 2012

Golf's most compelling event somehow seems to just keep getting better. Geoff Shackelford, John Huggan and Mike Clayton join host Rod Morri to break down events at Medinah, with Clayton even claiming his mum could captain the Ryder Cup....

Episode 13: SOG-Ep-13: "It's all too friendly at the moment..""" Sep 26, 2012

Join Rod Morri, Geoff Shackelford and John Huggan as they break down the most exciting week in golf, the Ryder Cup. The team also give their final verdict on the just concluded FedEx Cup and why the format still isn't quite right.

Episode 12: SOG-Ep-12-"The first clear Number one since Tiger..." Aug 15, 2012

The year's final major is run and won so now it's time to rank them. Hear from the State of the Game team Mike Clayton, John Huggan and Geoff Shackelford as they break down the Grand Slam events of season 2012, from Bubba's hooked wedge at Augusta to Rory's doinating peroformance at Kiawah Island.

Episode 11: SOG EP 11 - "Pro golf just doesn't engage me any more..." Jul 24, 2012

Lorne Rubenstein has been one of the game's great chroniclers for more than 30 years but after this week's Canadian Open will file his final weekly column for Toronto's Globe and Mail newspaper. Rod Morri caught up with Lorne to get his thoughts on the state of the game as he looks back on more than three decades of experience.

Episode 10: SOG-EP-10 "The Open won't be going to Portrush..." Jul 07, 2012

Geoff Shackelford and John Huggan join host Rod Morri to look back at the US Open, analyse the US Tour's new secondary tour sponsor, the new event in Turkey giving Tim Finchem and George O'Grady a headache and the chances of The Open returning to Royal Portrush. All that an moreon the latest episode of State of the Game.

Episode 9: SOG Ep 9 "One of sport's great upsets..." Jun 13, 2012

While the US Open unfolds at Olympic this week there will be plenty of talk about the 1955 event at this venue and the incredible upset victory of Iowa club profesional Jack Fleck over Ben Hogan. Neil Sagabiel of the Armchair Golf Blog has written a fabulous book about events leading up to, and during, that remarkable Open and joins Rod Morri and Mike Clayton to talk about the five year publishing journey that led to Golf's Longest Shot: Jack Fleck, Ben Hogan and Pro Golf's Greatest Upset at the 1955 US Open. Chock full of interesting tid-bits and details, and a hole by hole account of the play-off itself, The Longest Shot is a must read for anybody with an interest in the history of golf.

Episode 8: SOG Ep 8 - "What have they done to Merion?" Apr 18, 2012

In this special combined episode of TalkinGolf and State of the Game Geoff Shackelford, Mike Clayton and John Huggan join host Rod Morri to talk US Masters, Augusta National politics and Mike Clayton's amazing golf odyssey taking in some of America's very best golf courses.

Episode 7: SOG Ep 7 - "We'll forgive Augusta National anything if the golf's good" Apr 02, 2012

The most anticipated US Masters in years gets underway this week and, like everyone else with an interest in the game, we at State of the Game are keen to talk about it. Join Rod Morri, Geoff Shackelford and John Huggan as they break down the field, the course and the lingering controversy over Augusta's lack of female members which has reared its head again this year.

Episode 6: SOG Ep 6 - "There's a reason we were selected..." Mar 28, 2012

It's the biggest golf course design announcement in history and this week on State of the Game co-hosts Geoff Shackelford and Rod Morri catch up with Gil Hanse to discuss his winning design for the 2016 Olympic Games golf course.

Episode 5: State of the Game Episode 5 - "Slow play is an epidemic and it'a just bad manners.." Mar 08, 2012

Does your club have a problem with slow play? Well today's episode of State of the Game is a must listen. Host Rod Morri is joined by blogger Geoff Shackelford and Scotland on Sunday columnist John Huggan as they meet John Small, a tournament organiser and inventor fom Australia whose Solution 240 product is achieving remarkable results in eliminating slow play at two Sydney golf clubs.

Episode 4: SOG Ep 4 - "The professional game is just not very interesting the way it's played" - Greg Turner Feb 28, 2012

Former touring professional turned golf course designer, New Zealand's Greg Turner is one of the more articulate members of the golfing fraternity. This week he joins host Rod Morri and co-host Mike Clayton to discuss the joy of the short par-4, the impact of the professional game on golf more broadly and why the 1970s and 1980s will be viewed historically as a bleak time in golf course development.

Episode 3: SOG Ep 3 - "The game has been hijacked by money" Feb 13, 2012

The USGA - and Tiger Woods - are talking banning the belly and long putter. Join host Rod Morri, co-hosts John Huggan and Mike Clayton and long time broomstick putter user Craig Spence as they dissect just how dificult - or even desirable - that might be.

Episode 2: State of the Game Episode 2 Feb 08, 2012

Could the USGA be preparing to take on golf's major manufacturers over distance? New USGA President Glen Nager was talking tough on the issue at last week's USGA annual meeting and Geoff Shackelford was there. Join Shackelford and host Rod Morri as they dissect what looks to be a brave new era for the game's govrning body in the US. Also this week a John Huggan interview with player manager Andrew "Chubby" Chandler discussing the new US Tour Q School proposal and it's potential effects on world golf.

Episode 1: State of the Game Episode 1 Jan 22, 2012

Geoff Shackelford, John Huggan, Mike Clayton and Rod Morri today launch State of the Game, their new podcast exploring issues effecting the game of golf. Among topics discussed on this first episode are: why the distance obsession has hurt the game, why a roll back of the ball might not be as far off as we think and why professional golf really i important to the health of the game...

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