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    Starting Line 1928

    Starting Line 1928 is an oral history project documenting the lived experiences of female distance running pioneers

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    52 | Kathrine Switzer May 15, 2025
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    Say the name Kathrine Switzer and many people aren't sure who she is. Say, "the woman who was accosted during the 1967 Boston Marathon because she was running in an event for men only," and it's an image people recognize and remember. Kathrine had no idea what a historic run Boston would be; it became the spark for her life path. She went on to work at Avon and develop Avon Global Women's Running, then advocated to have the women's marathon included in the Olympics. She has also written books, commentated for major races, spoken to groups all over the world, and was the honorary starter for the women's marathon at the Paris Olympics in 2024. Her number in the 1967 Boston Marathon, 261, became an inspiration for women and then the namesake of 261 Fearless, a non-profit Kathrine co-founded in 2015. She continues to open doors for women, encouraging them through running and helping them feel empowered, no matter their circumstances.


    51 | Marge Hickman Apr 17, 2025
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    Marge Hickman can't sit still. If she's not running, she's hiking, driving around the country in her RV, or engaging in another form of movement. Since she was a kid, the ultra running phenom has always felt an insatiable drive to prove herself. And that drive has taken her places few in the running community have dared to go. In 1989, Hickman completed the grand slam of ultra running, meaning she finished four of the oldest 100-mile races in a span of 10 weeks. She is one of only 59 women who have accomplished the feat since it was established in 1986. She also completed the Leadville Trail 100 a total of 14 times (within the time limit), the most by any woman at the event. Now, at almost 75 years old, Hickman still competes regularly as an enduring pioneer in the sport.


    50 | Women's Running Stories: Jen Kanyugi Mar 13, 2025
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    This month, we're bringing you something a little bit different in this feed: an episode of Women's Running Stories, a podcast hosted by Cherie Louise Turner. This episode features Jen Kanyugi, who last year ran her 20th consecutive Boston Marathon. And yes, after this was recorded, she did indeed finish the race! Jen's journey to get to this point is about this one event, and so much more. In this time, Jen went from not running more than 20 minutes on the treadmill to being a steady presence at this, one of the most recognized and celebrated running events in the world. She's also learned the power of support, finding groups to train with and create community with, like Girls on the Run and Black Girls Run.


    49 | Henley Gabeau Feb 13, 2025
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    In the mid-1970s, Henley Gabeau didn't set out to become an accomplished distance runner. Instead, her athletic journey started as a simple desire to keep up with her 12-year-old daughter while training on the track. Henley quickly noticed there weren't many spaces dedicated to women, so she and a group of like-minded athletes formed RunHERS, one of the first women's running clubs in the United States. She went on to become the first female president of the Road Runners Club of America and then the organization's first-ever executive director; she also played a role in advocating for adding the women's marathon to the Olympics. Henley's contributions to the world of distance running go beyond her athletic achievements; her work as an advocate, race director, mother and leader helped shape women's running into what it is today. Henley passed away in 2018—this interview was conducted by Olympian Amy Begley in 2013.


    48 | Dr. Joan Ullyot Jan 16, 2025
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    Dr. Joan Ullyot, the "fastest physician marathon runner," paved the way for women runners across the world, proving by example that women should not be counted out when it comes to long distances. Ullyot raced in 80 marathons, winning ten of those along with the masters division in the Boston Marathon in 1984. Her book "Women's Running," published in 1976, and her in-depth studies as an exercise physiologist made the case that women deserve the equal opportunity to run competitively; her efforts were instrumental in lobbying the International Olympic Commission to add the women's marathon to the Olympics in 1984. Dr. Ullyot passed away in 2021, at age 80; this interview was conducted in 2013 by Amy Begley.


    47 | Sara Mae Berman Dec 12, 2024
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    In 1969, 32-year-old Sara Mae Berman was the first woman to cross the finish line in the Boston Marathon. She did it again in 1970 and 1971. But women weren't allowed to enter officially, so her times—3:22:46, 3:05:08, and 3:08:30, respectively—were unofficial. "All we ever wanted, us early women, was to be allowed to run the distance, and we weren't in any bloodthirsty competition with each other. We just wanted to be able to run the distance and improve our times," she says.


    46 | Jessica Louis, Amber Henderson, Angel Tadytin, and Birdie Wermy Nov 14, 2024
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    Native people, including women, have been running over these lands since long before anyone organized a major marathon. Yet all too often, with notable exceptions like past guest Patti Catalano Dillon, they aren't represented at modern races. Changing that is the key goal of Native Women Run, an organization that Verna Volker launched in 2018. At first, it was an Instagram page; now, it's a non-profit that creates space for and elevates the stories of Native women who run. This year, NWR brought four runners to the Bank of America Chicago Marathon: Jessica Louis, Amber Henderson, Angel Tadytin, and Birdie Wermy. All of them joined Verna, Starting Line 1928's Cindy Kuzma, and Cherie Louise Turner of Women's Running Stories for a special live podcast recording at the expo the day before the race.


    45 | Junko Kazukawa Oct 10, 2024
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    Junko Kazukawa is a Japanese-born women's ultra running pioneer best known for having finished the Leadville 100-mile race 10 times. Junko is a two-time breast cancer survivor with more than three decades of experience in health, fitness, and training. She currently works as an ultra endurance coach with Boundless. Junko lives and trains in Denver, Colorado, and has completed 24 100-mile trail races so far, including Leadville, UTMB, Mt. Fuji, Ultra Fiord in Patagonia. She's the first female to finish the Grand Slam of ultra running in 2015. She was Lead Woman three times, in 2014, 2015 and 2024. This means she completed all six events in the Leadville Race Series in the span of two months in the nation's highest city, including a trail marathon, a mountain-bike race, the Leadville Trail 100 Run, and more. She was the 2015 Sports Woman of Colorado and voted as the Colorado resident badass in 2017.


    44 | Doris Brown Heritage Sep 12, 2024
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    Doris Brown Heritage has always had a need to run. During a career that spanned roughly twenty years, Brown Heritage held every woman's national and world record from the 440 yards to the marathon. In 1966 she became the first woman to run an indoor sub-five-minute mile in 4:52. Ten years later, on a lark with little training, she won her first marathon, the 1976 Vancouver International Marathon in 2:47:35 at the age of 34.

    She is a two-time Olympian (1968, 800m, 1972 1500m) and is a living legend in her home state where she was named Seattle's 1971 Man of the Year in Sports. She found that hilarious. Her most acclaimed accomplishment was winning five consecutive International World Cross-Country Championships from 1967 through 1971. "She is a remarkable woman who should have the name recognition of Jim Ryan," claims Charlotte Lettis Richardson who included Brown Heritage in her documentary Run Like a Girl.


    43 | Laurel James Aug 08, 2024
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    "Life is a challenge. And if you can't enjoy that, you're in trouble." Laurel James, founder of the Seattle-based running retailer Super Jock 'n Jill and mastermind behind the 1984 U.S. Women's Olympic Marathon Trials race, does not mince words. James entered the nascent running-retail scene in 1975, and quickly cemented herself as a visionary female entrepreneur, race director, and community pillar in the running world and beyond.


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