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    Square Notes: The Sacred Music Podcast

    You’ve got questions about sacred music? Here’s your chance to learn what the Church teaches and envisions for music in the sacred liturgy.

    Welcome to Square Notes: The Sacred Music Podcast with your host Dr. Jennifer Donelson-Nowicka. We address topics of interest both to priests and liturgical musicians, as well as a general audience of Catholics interested in learning more about the Catholic Church’s teachings and treasury of sacred music. Our topics range from discussion of Church documents on sacred music, to the music of certain composers or eras, Gregorian chant, the role of music in Catholic education, and techniques for directing a better choir rehearsal. We’ll interview bishops, priests, music directors, composers, teachers, philosophers, and theologians. We’ll talk to people who found a home in the Catholic Church because they heard the call of Christ in the Church’s sacred music. We’ll ask questions about how really great music programs are doing their work. We’ll introduce you to Catholics who love their faith and, through sacred music, offer all their efforts for his glory and the sanctification of all who hear them.

    We aim for our podcast to be thoughtful, encouraging, and informative. We hope, too, that it will inspire and motivate you to work for the renewal of authentic beauty in sacred music—whether you’re a working church musician or an average Catholic in the pews wondering what’s going on. With the prayers of our patronesses, Our Lady, Seat of Wisdom and Saint Elisabeth of the Trinity, we hope to help draw souls to Christ through the beauty of the Church’s sacred music.

    Square Notes is the official podcast of the Catholic Institute of Sacred Music. http://catholicinstituteofsacredmusic.org/

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    Latest Episodes:
    SE05 EP11 - Lessons from Mary Berry on Persevering & Loving Gregorian Chant in the Midst of Trials - with Christopher Hodkinson Mar 16, 2023
    Show notes

    The remarkable life and work of Mary Berry is inspirational, especially for those experiencing trials or hardships as they work to promote the Church's own vision for Her sacred music. She offers lessons in persevering in one's vocation in the face of challenging circumstances, and the holiness that can and ought to flow from a life of scholarship, singing, and teaching of Gregorian chant. This interview with a former director of Mary's ensemble, the Schola Gregoriana of Cambridge, shares with us some of these lessons we can take away from her life's story and legacy.

    To learn more about the course History and Principles of Sacred Music offered this summer at the Catholic Institute of Sacred Music at St. Patrick's Seminary, please visit: https://catholicinstituteofsacredmusic.org/


    SE05 EP10 - Teaching Gregorian Chant to Young People: The Canticle Apostolate - with Mary Ann Carr Wilson Mar 12, 2023
    Show notes

    Maybe you've thought about hosting a Chant Camp at your parish, or you're looking for ways to keep your young singers engaged as they grow up in the children's choir. The work of Mary Ann Carr Wilson and her apostolate Canticle is inspiring in the way it models catechesis through teaching chant, musical development, and the cultivation of student leaders. Join Mrs. Wilson for an episode in which she shares the story of her own learning and her work in teaching the Church's music to young people in San Diego.

    Learn more about Canticle here: https://canticle.net/

    Check out the summer courses of the Catholic Institute of Sacred Music here: https://catholicinstituteofsacredmusic.org/

    Sign up for a spot in the free information session about the Ward method here: http://wardmethod.eventbrite.com


    SE05 EP09 - Organ Improvisation, Hymn Tune Introits, and Cathedral Choir Schools - with Dr. Christoph Tietze Mar 03, 2023
    Show notes

    The long and impressive career of Dr. Christoph Tietze, Director of Music at St. Mary's Cathedral in San Francisco, makes for an interview that covers a lot of ground, including helpful tips for improving one's improvisation skills, steps to take if you're thinking about building a choir school, and an overview of his project on creating a collection of introits for congregational singing.

    To learn more about Dr. Tietze and his work at the cathedral, visit: https://smcsf.org/

    Find out more about the St. Mary's Cathedral Choir School at St. Brigid School here: https://sfchoirschool.org

    If you're interested in Dr. Tietze's Organ Improvisation Seminar this summer with the Catholic Institute of Sacred Music, you can learn more here: https://catholicinstituteofsacredmusic.org/


    SE05 EP08 - Mocquereau's "Classical Solesmes" School of Singing Chant: Understanding the Arguments about the Rhythm of Gregorian Chant – with Prof. Charles Weaver Feb 27, 2023
    Show notes

    Questions about how to sing Gregorian chant can get a little thorny when people who love the chant and have a lot of experience singing it get together. For a newcomer to chant, these questions can seem irrelevant or overwhelming, especially when it's not clear what people are so passionately discussing.

    In this interview with Prof. Charles Weaver (Juilliard), we break down the basics of one of the main school of chant performance practice, the "classical Solesmes" school established by Dom André Mocquereau. We look at the big questions Mocquereau was trying to answer, the role of the text and accents in the "classical Solesmes" school, and understanding the 2's and 3's within the context of the overall structure of a piece of chant, what Mocquereau calls the "greater rhythm."

    To learn more about Prof. Weaver's work, please visit: https://www.juilliard.edu/music/faculty/weaver-charles

    To apply for Prof. Weaver's summer course at the Catholic Institute of Sacred Music, visit the Institute's website at: https://catholicinstituteofsacredmusic.org/


    SE05 EP07 - The Impact of the Council of Trent on Composers: The Case of Juan de Esquivel - with Dr. Michael O'Connor Feb 10, 2023
    Show notes

    What was it like for a Renaissance-era composer to navigate the liturgical changes of an ecumenical council, and to have a theological outlook on Our Lady's Immaculate Conception (later vindicated as the Church's own view) that was different from that of his episcopal employer? We look at these questions, and hear about the adventurous and interesting life of lesser-known composer Juan de Esquivel in this episode with Dr. Michael O'Connor.

    Learn more about Dr. O'Connor here: https://www.pba.edu/directory/o-connor-michael.html

    Read some of Dr. O'Connor's articles here: https://pba.academia.edu/MichaelOConnor

    Check out summer classes at the Catholic Institute of Sacred Music here: https://catholicinstituteofsacredmusic.org/


    SE05 EP06 - Do College Composition Departments Prepare Composers to Write Sacred Music? The Story of a Composer's Evolution - with Dr. Frank La Rocca Feb 06, 2023
    Show notes

    Starting from the impact of a post-war style of academic training on his compositional voice through his search for a greater capacity for expression in the use of tonality, Dr. Frank La Rocca narrates the journey he took from the influences of the severe style cultivated in universities to the freedom he experienced in the strictures of writing a cappella choral music. Accompanying this path was his reversion to the Catholic faith, and the possibilities opened up by writing sacred choral music, leading to what many listeners will recognize in the style of Dr. La Rocca's most recent Masses.

    Find out more about Dr. La Rocca's work here: https://www.franklarocca.com/

    Learn more about Dr. La Rocca's masses here: https://benedictinstitute.org/

    Buy the recent #1 release of Dr. La Rocca's Mass of the Americas here: https://listn.fm/laroccamass/?mc_cid=0cb9d5c000&mc_eid=7669693fa1

    Learn more about the composition seminar Dr. La Rocca will teach this summer, or the other classes of the Catholic Institute of Sacred Music here: https://catholicinstituteofsacredmusic.org/


    A Bishop's Guardianship of Beauty and the Liturgy: Reflections on the Liturgical Life of the Ordinariate - with Bishop Steven J. Lopes Feb 02, 2023
    Show notes

    His Excellency, Steven J. Lopes, Bishop of the Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter and Chairman of the USCCB's Committee on Divine Worship, offers reflections on the work of God in the sacred liturgy, the relationship of artistic beauty to the truths of the Catholic faith and a life of charity, as well as a bit about the formation of the Ordinariate's liturgical books.

    Learn more about the Ordinariate and Bishop Lopes here: https://ordinariate.net/bishop-lopes.

    Learn more about the Catholic Institute of Sacred Music here: https://catholicinstituteofsacredmusic.org/.


    A Musical Offering: Reflections on Improvisation, Inspiration, and Harmony – with Naji Hakim Dec 26, 2022
    Show notes

    Our Christmas gift to you is one of the most special interviews we've yet had the opportunity to present on this podcast. Naji Hakim joins us to discuss the impact of the sounds of his youth on his musical imagination, his training as a young musician, his study with Jean Langlais, succeeding to Olivier Messiaen's post at La Trinité, and his own work as an improviser and composer.

    Learn more about Mr. Hakim here: https://www.najihakim.com/

    And be sure to tune in to his excellent YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/user/uyiai

    Keep in touch with Dr. Donelson-Nowicka here: https://jenniferdonelson.com https://www.stpsu.edu/


    Understanding and Preventing Church Musician Burnout – with Dr. Kensley Behel Dec 10, 2022
    Show notes

    When listing the most stressful jobs one can think, church musician doesn't immediately come to mind. Even so, there are a huge number of stressors that lead to frequent burnout and high turnover rates, impacting parish communities, and even the spiritual lives of musicians. Join Dr. Kensley Behel, an expert in musicians' health, as we discuss the roots of these problems and what musicians and pastors can do to avoid burnout.

    Learn more about Dr. Behel here: https://www.kensleybehel.com/

    Keep in touch with Dr. Donelson-Nowicka here: https://jenniferdonelson.com https://www.stpsu.edu/


    The Story of Musical Notation – with Dr. Thomas Forrest Kelly Dec 04, 2022
    Show notes

    Have you ever wondered where and how Western musical notation originated and developed? How did it affect the learning and teaching of music? What are the limitations and contributions of notation to how the music sounds? Join Dr. Thomas Forrest Kelly, the Morton B. Knafel Research Professor of Music at Harvard University and author of Capturing Music: The Story of Notation, for a fascinating interview.

    Buy Dr. Kelly's book here: https://wwnorton.com/books/Capturing-Music/

    Learn more about Dr. Kelly here: https://medieval.fas.harvard.edu/people/thomas-forrest-kelly

    Keep in touch with Dr. Donelson-Nowicka here: https://jenniferdonelson.com https://www.stpsu.edu/


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