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From Intel Officer to White House Adviser: A Chat with The Museum’s Executive Director Jul 15, 2025

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This week we spoke with the International Spy Museum's Executive Director, Colonel Chris Costa. His decades-long career in the intelligence community spanned multiple continents, running sensitive operations in Panama, Bosnia, Iraq, and Afghanistan, where he earned two Bronze stars for his human intelligence contributions. Later, Costa advised Navy Seals as a civilian and eventually assumed the role of Executive Director here at the International Spy Museum. In this interview, we zeroed in on 2017 when he was detailed to the White House as the Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Counterterrorism.

Looking for more thoughtful analysis of contemporary intelligence issues? Check out our program Spy Chat – Each month, Chris sits down with a special guest for a live online discussion of the latest intelligence, national security, and terrorism issues in the news. Check our program calendar to register!

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Spy Chat with Chris Costa | Special Guest: Tal Sullivan

An Evening with H.R. McMaster

Operación Jaque - The Daring Rescue Mission That Freed 15 Hostages

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“America’s Gatekeeper”: A Conversation with DCSA’s Director David Cattler Jul 08, 2025

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Born out of a major Chinese cyberattack that stole personal information from millions of federal government employees, the Defense Counterintelligence and Security Agency calls itself ‘America’s Gatekeeper.’

Now five years into its existence, it’s responsible for overseeing most of the security clearances for government personnel and contractors. DCSA’s director David Cattler, formerly NATO’s Assistant Secretary General for Intelligence and Security, assesses the current threats.

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DOGE Layoffs and the Counterintelligence Threats They Pose | SpyCast

Dir. of National Intelligence Roundtable: 2025 Society for Intelligence History Panel

Spy Chat with Chris Costa | Guest: Carol Rollie Flynn

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Russia's Fake Identity Assembly Line in Brazil Jul 01, 2025

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When a Russian spy was arrested in Brazil in 2022, authorities were shocked to discover that he seemed to have a real birth certificate and authentic citizenship documents. The incident sparked a multi-year investigation that uncovered a network of Russian operatives living and working in Brazil – Their false identities supported by genuine documents. New York Times journalist Jane Bradley, who investigated the spy network, joined us to discuss the case as Brazilian law enforcement continues to piece together answers today.

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Ghost Stories: The Hunt for Russian Spies in the US | SpyCast

"The Minions": Putin's Expendable Spies | SpyCast

Curator's Corner: Kevin P. Riehle on Russian Intelligence

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Breaking the Silence: Coming Out in the CIA Jun 24, 2025

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Emerging alongside Joseph McCarthy’s Red Scare in the 1950s was the Lavender Scare: Widespread panic and paranoia over the inclusion of gay personnel in the federal government. Their perceived dangers led to the terminations and forced resignations of thousands. Fast forward to 1988 – Tracey Ballard, who worked at the CIA, headed in to take a polygraph exam. Not sure what would happen next, she did something no one else ever had – She told her polygrapher, ‘I’m a lesbian.’ Trace became the first openly gay CIA employee, and spent the next decade of her career fighting for inclusion, acceptance, and kindness within the agency.

Her story highlights the critical importance of diversity, and the beauty in recognizing the things that make us different as well as the shared values that bring us all together. From all of us at the International Spy Museum, we are proud to celebrate the LGBTQ+ community this Pride month and beyond.

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Hack to the Future with Emily Crose

Agents of Change: African American Professionals in the Intelligence Community Reflect

The Sisterhood with Liza Mundy

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A Conversation with House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman Jun 17, 2025

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What should the US Intelligence Community prioritize domestically and overseas, and how should the work be done? We sat down with Congressman Rick Crawford, Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, to learn his perspective on these questions. The conversation emphasized the growing threat of China’s influence in the West, the impact of the new Open Source Intelligence Subcommittee, and the importance of analytic integrity in intelligence.

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Spy Chat with Chris Costa | Special Guest: Beth Sanner

Dir. of National Intelligence Roundtable: 2025 Society for Intelligence History Panel

An Evening with H.R. McMaster

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Ghost Stories: The Hunt for Russian Spies in the US Jun 10, 2025

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In the early 2000s, the FBI uncovered a team of Russian operatives who had been living double lives in the United States. They were posing as professors, journalists, financial planners, real estate and travel agents, all while sending information back to Moscow. Now, 15 years after they were arrested, Alan Kohler, the former Assistant Director of the FBI's Counterintelligence Division, tells us what it was like to supervise the case which came to be known as Operation Ghost Stories.

In this episode, Alan mentions a number of different photos and videos from the Ghost Stories investigation. You can view them all here through the FBI’s digital vault.

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"The Minions": Putin's Expendable Spies

Spy Chat with Chris Costa | Guest: Alan E. Kohler, Jr.

Curator's Corner: Kevin P. Riehle on Russian Intelligence

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The Secret Navy and Their Hunt for a Nazi Sub Jun 03, 2025

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How do you catch an enemy’s submarine … and then make it vanish? That’s what the U.S. Navy’s elusive Tenth Fleet planned, as it tracked down Germany’s U-505 submarine. The mission came right before the Allies ran ashore on the beaches of Normandy in World War II. Historian Alexander Rose draws on long classified documents and intercepted transmissions to reveal the bold, salt-soaked heist.

Alex's new book, Phantom Fleet: The Hunt for Nazi Submarine U-505 and World War II’s Most Daring Heist is available now.

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Agent Zo: The Extraordinary Woman Who Parachuted Into Nazi-Occupied Poland

Enigma Traitors with Dermot Turing

The Heavy Water Sabotage Raid

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How Are Shifting Priorities Impacting National Security in America? May 27, 2025

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Most Americans would agree that the United States should be protected, but from whom … and how? Dr. Donell Harvin, the former Chief of Homeland Security and Intelligence for the District of Columbia, says the U.S. is taking its eye off the ball - focusing its large domestic intelligence apparatus in a direction that is politically expedient, but not in line with the most serious threats.

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DOGE Layoffs and the Counterintelligence Threats They Pose | SpyCast

Spy Chat with Chris Costa | Special Guest: Colin Clarke

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Sharing Intelligence: Challenges between US and Ukraine May 20, 2025

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After Russia’s full scale invasion of Ukraine, the U.S. rushed to create a secret center that set targets for the Ukrainians to destroy. But the counteroffensive of 2023 failed to achieve its goals. So, what went wrong? New York Times reporter Adam Entous spent more than a year reporting on this story. He joins SpyCast host Sasha Ingber to talk about what was going on behind the scenes, and the consequences that were felt acutely on the battlefield.

Read Adam’s full report here.

The International Spy Museum has launched its first ever digital exhibition: Open Source: Ukraine & The Intelligence Revolution. Give it a visit to learn more about the role of publicly accessible information in intelligence collection and analysis.

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SpyCast Live: Escalation: Tracking the US-Ukraine Relationship

An Evening with General David H. Petraeus

SpyCast - “Zelensky, Ukraine & Intelligence” – with Simon Shuster

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Stories From the President's Daily Brief May 13, 2025

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Conflict has been escalating between two nuclear powers–India and Pakistan. It started in April, after India blamed Pakistan for supporting militants who carried out a massacre in Kashmir. President Trump offered to help defuse the tensions.Throughout history, India and Pakistan’s hostility has been documented in the President's Daily Brief, a highly classified rundown of threats facing the United States. Former CIA officer David Priess, author of The President's Book of Secrets, tells us how the PDB mattered in relations between India and Pakistan.

To learn more, check out David’s book, the President's Book of Secrets, the Untold Story of Intelligence briefings to America's Presidents.

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Spy Chat with Chris Costa | Special Guest: Beth Sanner

The President's Book of Secrets - Understanding the President’s Daily Brief (PDB) with David Priess

Hot Topics: Intelligence Challenges in an Election Year

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