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    SpyCast

    SpyCast, the official podcast of the International Spy Museum, is a journey into the shadows of international espionage. Each week, host Sasha Ingber brings you the latest insights and intriguing tales from spies, secret agents, and covert communicators, with a focus on how this secret world reaches us all in our everyday lives. Tune in to discover the critical role intelligence has played throughout history and today. Brought to you from Airwave, Goat Rodeo, and the International Spy Museum. 

    The Spy Museum does not endorse, approve, or support the opinions stated by guest speakers. Statements made by speakers do not represent the position or opinion of the International Spy Museum.

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    Latest Episodes:
    “An Imperial History of the CIA” – with Hugh Wilford Dec 10, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    Hugh Wilford joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his new book. Hugh is a professor, author, and leading CIA historian.


    What You’ll Learn

    Intelligence

    • Imperial influences on American intelligence
    • Key figures in CIA history
    • “Wild” Bill Donovan & British influence
    • Groton School’s impact on CIA leaders

    Reflections

    • Inherited history
    • Challenging established narratives

    And much, much more …


    Resources

    SURFACE SKIM

    *Spotlight Resource*

    • The CIA: An Imperial History, Hugh Wilford (Basic Books, 2024)

    *SpyCasts*

    • The British Monarchy and Secret Intelligence with Rory Cormac and Richard Aldrich (2024)
    • The Past 75 Years with Historian of the CIA Rhodri Jeffreys-Jones (2022)
    • The 75th Anniversary of the CIA with former Director Robert Gates (2022)

    DEEPER DIVE

    Books

    • A Question of Standing: The History of the CIA, R. Jeffreys-Jones (Oxford University Press, 2022)
    • Spymasters: CIA Directors, C. Whipple (S&S, 2020)
    • A Brief History of the CIA, R. Immerman (Wiley, 2014)

    Primary Sources

    • Sherman Kent Obituary (1986)
    • Maj. Gen. Edward G. Lansdale to go to South Vietnam (1965)
    • CIA Review of the World Situation (1947)
    • Lester to Truman re Centralized Intelligence (1947)
    • National Security Act (1947)
    • Intelligence Remarks of Major General William J. Donovan (1946)

    *Wildcard Resource*

    • Kim (1901) by Rudyard Kipling
    • As Hugh mentions in this interview, this book was the inspiration behind Kermit Roosevelt Jr.’s nickname, Kim. Harold Adrian Russell Philby, the infamous member of the Cambridge Spy Ring better known as Kim Philby, took inspiration from the same source.
    “The Battlefield Tour Guide” with Bob Shaw Dec 03, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    Robert Shaw joins Andrew to discuss his experience working as an accredited Battlefield tour guide. Bob’s career in the British Army spanned over 25 years.


    What You’ll Learn

    Intelligence

    • Becoming a battlefield tour guide
    • IEDD and Intelligence Work in Northern Ireland
    • Hypothetical WWIII scenarios
    • Special Forces, TECHINT, & the Bin Laden Raid

    Reflections

    • Learning from history
    • Interpretation and understanding

    And much, much more …


    Quotes of the Week

    “One of the things about being an IEDD operator, our intent of course is investigation. And part of that is asking questions, lots of them, and getting, in a sense, answers and then following off and chasing trails or rabbit holes … It's good to be able to question everything and work out why it's there and does it fit … So it does really help with battlefield touring.” – Bob Shaw.


    Resources

    SURFACE SKIM

    *SpyCasts*

    • Alan Turing: Codebreaker, Visionary, Enigma with Andrew Hodges (2024)
    • The Real Ian Fleming with Nicholas Shakespeare (2024)
    • ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL: The D-Day Deception with National WWII Museum Curator Corey Graff (2023)
    • St. Ermin’s Hotel, London – The History of a Legendary Spy Site with Stephen Duffy (2023)
    • The IRA, The Troubles & Intelligence with Eleanor Williams and Thomas Leahy (2022)

    DEEPER DIVE

    Explore the Sites and Battlefields Discussed

    • Thames House
    • Vauxhall Cross
    • Bletchley Park
    • Monument to SOE Agents
    • The Old War Office Building
    • The Admiralty Building
    • Beaumanor Hall
    • Battle of Arnhem / Operation Market Garden
    • The Khyber Pass
    • The Falklands Conflict
    • Abbottabad Raid / Operation Neptune Spear
    • Battle of Stalingrad

    *Wildcard Resource*

    • The Battle of Gettysburg is perhaps one of the most well-known and most visited battlefields in the United States.
    • Take a virtual tour of this historic American site here – Tour guidance by Bob not included.
    “Two Decades at the International Spy Museum” – with Anna Slafer Nov 26, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    Anna Slafer (LinkedIn, Website) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the history of the International Spy Museum. Anna was one of SPY’s first employees when the museum opened in 2002.


    What You’ll Learn

    Intelligence

    • Building the International Spy Museum
    • Milton Maltz: the visionary behind SPY
    • The role of historians and curators
    • Creating exhibits on espionage


    Reflections

    • Institutional memory and evolution
    • The challenges and joys of storytelling

    And much, much more …


    Quotes of the Week

    “We structured the museum so people could understand: How does [spying] work? Who does it? What is my role? And we wanted to look at the good, the bad, and the ugly.” – Anna Slafer.


    Resources

    SURFACE SKIM

    *SpyCasts*

    • The World’s Preeminent Collection of SPY Artifacts with Laura Hicken and Lauren VonBechmann (2024)
    • Secrets Revealed – Curators Alexis and Andrew on SPY’s Pop-Up Exhibit (2023)
    • Peter Earnest Memorial: Spook, CIA Spokesman, Spy Museum Director (2022)

    *Beginner Resources*

    • A look at the International Spy Museum in Washington D.C., FOX 5 Washington DC, YouTube (2023) [5 min. video]
    • About the Collection, International Spy Museum (n.d.) [Short article]
    • About Museums, American Alliance of Museums (n.d.) [Short Q&A]

    DEEPER DIVE

    Articles

    • Cracking the Spy Museum Code to Revitalize Stale Learning, J. A. Manning, Medium (2023)
    • A Reimagined Spy Museum in Washington Doesn’t Flinch From the Darker Side, S. Shane, The New York Times (2019)
    • From For-Profit to Nonprofit: Evolution of the International Spy Museum, E. Merritt, American Alliance of Museums (2019)
    • Spy Museum salutes '50 years of Bond Villains,' T. Wells, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (2012)
    • Role of museums in managing design education: a case study, H. Lee, International Journal of Education Through Art (2009)
    • Museum visitors hit the D.C. streets in spy game, B. Zongker, Seattle Times (2009)

    *Wildcard Resource*

    • Museums have been a critical element of community building and historical memory for centuries.
    • One of the world’s first curators was a woman named Ennigaldi-Nanna from modern day Iraq. Dating from 530 B.C., Ennigaldi-Nanna’s museum of Mesopotamian artifacts is thought to be the world’s oldest museum.
    Leadership & The United States Pacific Command with Ret. Lieutenant General Anthony Crutchfield Nov 19, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    Lieutenant General Anthony Crutchfield (Ret.) (LinkedIn, Wikipedia) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his time as the Deputy Commander of United States Indo-Pacific Command. PACOM covers 52% of the globe.


    What You’ll Learn

    Intelligence

    • The role of intelligence in military operations
    • Ethical dilemmas in command decisions
    • Reflections on the impact of mentorship and outreach
    • The importance of remaining aware in today's pervasive world

    Reflections

    • The challenges of leadership
    • Hard work, determination, and resilience

    And much, much more …


    Quotes of the Week

    “I worked hard at everything I did. If somebody asked me to do a job, I didn’t say, ‘That’s not my job,’ I didn’t complain. There were places that I was sent that I didn’t want to go, but I went – And I didn’t complain about it…I did the best that I could and it was recognized.” – Anthony Crutchfield.


    Resources

    SURFACE SKIM

    *SpyCasts*

    • Leading United States Central Command with General Frank McKenzie (2024)
    • CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta (2024)
    • David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence with the former CIA Director & 4* General (2023)
    • Intelligence, Special Operations, and Strategy with Michael Vickers (2023)

    DEEPER DIVE

    Books

    • The Melting Point: High Command and War in the 21st Century, K. F. McKenzie (Naval Institute Press, 2024)
    • Conflict: The Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine, D. Petraeus & A. Roberts (Harper, 2023)
    • Strategy in Crisis: The Pacific War, J. T. Kuehn (Naval Institute Press, 2023)
    • Fire on the Water: China, America, and the Future of the Pacific, R. J. Haddick (Naval Institute Press, 2014)

    Primary Sources

    • U.S. Defense Infrastructure in the IndoPacific: Background and Issues for Congress (2023)
    • Pacific Partnership Strategy (2022)
    • Indo-Pacific Strategy of the United States (2022)

    *Wildcard Resource*

    • PACOM is, by far, the largest geographical combatant command. The smallest, on the other hand, is the U.S. Central Command. Listen to our interview with General Frank McKenzie, 14th commander of CENTCOM, here!
    “Applying Intelligence to Business Strategy” with Jonathan B. Smith Nov 12, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    Jonathan B. Smith (X; LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the application of intelligence to entrepreneurship. Jonathan is an entrepreneur, author, and business strategist.


    What You’ll Learn

    Intelligence

    • Building high-performance teams
    • Case officers vs. entrepreneurs
    • Networking and overcoming operational challenges
    • Curiosity as a key trait for success

    Reflections

    • The will to succeed
    • The power of listening and empathy

    And much, much more …


    Quotes of the Week

    “I often switch languages …I'll speak from a medical CEO's perspective versus a financial services CEO perspective. And people, when you use their language, they tend to lean in. They're like, “Oh, you understand me.” It's fascinating – People don't want to know how much you know until they know how much you care.” – Jonathan B. Smith.


    Resources

    SURFACE SKIM

    *SpyCasts*

    • The Cyber Behavioral Profiler with Cameron Malin (2024)
    • The FBI Hostage Negotiator with Chris Voss (2024)
    • Spying and Start-Ups with former Assistant Director of the CIA John Mullen (2022)
    • From the CIA to Strategic Cyber with Hans Holmer (2022)

    *Beginner Resources*

    • What Do Entrepreneurs Actually Do? Foundation for Economic Education, YouTube (2019) [3 min. video]
    • What is EOS? Entrepreneurial Operating System (n.d.) [Fact sheet]
    • Case Officer, Central Intelligence Agency (n.d.) [Job description]

    DEEPER DIVE

    Books

    • Sell Like A Spy: The Art of Persuasion from the World of Espionage, J. Hurewitz (Diversion Books, 2024)
    • Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It, C. Voss & T. Raz (Harper Business, 2016)
    • Optimize for Growth: How to Scale Up Your Business, Your Network and You, J. B. Smith (Chief Optimizer, 2015)
    “The Skinny on Cuban Intelligence” – with Counterintelligence expert Ean Forsythe Nov 05, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    Ean Forsythe joins Andrew to discuss the history of Cuban intelligence. Ean is the Counterintelligence and Security Center Chair at the National Intelligence University.


    What You’ll Learn

    Intelligence

    • The history and evolution of Cuban intelligence
    • Case studies, including Ana Montes, Kendall Meyers, and the Cuban Five
    • Counterintelligence strategies and challenges
    • The role of Cuban intelligence during the Cold War

    Reflections

    • Ideology and the power of ideas
    • Offensive vs. defensive play

    And much, much more …


    Resources

    SURFACE SKIM

    *SpyCasts*

    • Code Name Blue Wren: Cuban Spy Ana Montes with Jim Popkin (2023)
    • The Counterintelligence Chief with FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler (2023)
    • Dealing with Russia – A Conversation with Counterintelligence Legend Jim Olson (2022)

    DEEPER DIVE

    Books

    • Code Name Blue Wren: The True Story of America's Most Dangerous Female Spy—and the Sister She Betrayed, J. Popkin (Hanover, 2023)
    • To Catch a Spy: The Art of Counterintelligence, J. M. Olson (Georgetown University Press, 2021)
    • United States-Cuban Relations: A Critical History, E. M. Dominguez (Lexington, 2008)

    Primary Sources

    • Report on the Convictions and Disproportionate Sentences Imposed on the Cuban Five (2014)
    • USA: The Case of the Cuban Five (2010)
    • Inspector General Review of Ana Montes Investigation (2005)
    • US vs. Marta Rita Velazquez (2004)
    • Ana Montes Statement During Trial (2001)
    • FBI Arrests DIA Employee (2001)
    • Selection and Training of Cuban Intelligence Agents Abroad (1964)
    • Cuban Intelligence Information Report (1964)

    *Wildcard Resource*

    • Watch Erin bake Ana Montes’ famous cheesecake recipe and dive deeper into Ana’s story in SPY's Declassified Desserts video!
    Bellingcat: An Intelligence Agency for the People with Eliot Higgins Oct 29, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    Eliot Higgins (X; Wikipedia) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the work of Bellingcat. Eliot founded the open-source investigative website in 2014.


    What You’ll Learn

    Intelligence

    • Bellingcat’s approach to “investigative journalism”
    • The rise of OSINT as a tool of journalism
    • Bellingcat’s relationship with intelligence agencies
    • Case studies from Bellingcat’s past, including the Skripal Case and the MH17 flight investigation

    Reflections

    • Leading by example
    • Accessibility and accountability

    And much, much more …


    Quotes of the Week

    “When I first started doing this work ... I would present geolocation and stuff on stage. The reaction was like I was doing magic tricks, but my point was that. This isn't magic – This is something that you can do and recreate and understand.” - Eliot Higgins.


    Resources

    SURFACE SKIM

    *SpyCasts*

    • Digital Innovation and the Next Frontier of Intelligence with Jennifer Ewbank (2024)
    • The Future of OSINT and the Intelligence Community with Jason Barrett (2024)
    • U.S. Army Open-Source Intelligence (OSINT) with Dennis Eger & Shawn Nilius (2024)
    • Ukraine & Intelligence: One Year On with Shane Harris (2023)

    DEEPER DIVE

    Books

    • OSINT Techniques: Resources for Uncovering Online Information, M. Bazzell (2023)
    • Deep Dive: Exploring the Real-world Value of Open Source Intelligence, R. L. Baker (Wiley, 2023)
    • We Are Bellingcat: The Online Sleuths Solving Global Crimes, E. Higgins (Bloomsbury, 2022)

    Primary Sources

    • Map of Civilian Harm in Ukraine (2024)
    • Death of Sinwar Report (2024)
    • The IC OSINT Strategy 2024-2026 (2024)
    • DoS Open Source Intelligence Strategy (2024)
    • MH17 Investigation (2019)
    • Skripal Report (2018)

    *Wildcard Resource*

    • The fable of Belling the Cat
    • The inspiration behind Bellingcat’s name, the moral of this story is simple – It’s one thing to suggest a solution or idea, but it’s a whole other beast to actually take action.
    The Cyber Behavioral Profiler with Cameron Malin Oct 22, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    Cameron Malin (LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss cyber and behavioral profiling. Cameron was the creator and founder of the FBI’s Cyber Behavioral Analysis Center.


    What You’ll Learn

    Intelligence

    • The historical origins of behavioral profiling
    • Applying behavioral profiling to counterintelligence and cyber threats
    • Nature vs. Nurture in criminal behavior
    • The future of deception and cyberwarfare

    Reflections

    • The complexity of the human mind
    • Threat evolution

    And much, much more …


    Quotes of the Week

    “We need to think about cybersecurity as not just hacking and malware and the obvious tangible or known weapons that are used, it includes mental malware … Deep fakes and disinformation, things that can cause erroneous decision making that are just as powerful.” – Cameron Malin


    Resources

    SURFACE SKIM

    *SpyCasts*

    • The FBI Hostage Negotiator with Chris Voss (2024)
    • A CIA Psychologist on the Minds of World Leaders, Pt. 1 with Dr. Ursula Wilder (2024)
    • A CIA Psychologist on the Minds of World Leaders, Pt. 2 with Dr. Ursula Wilder (2024)
    • “How Spies Think” – 10 Lessons in Intelligence with Sir David Omand (2020)

    DEEPER DIVE

    Books

    • Deception in the Digital Age: Exploiting and Defending Human Targets through Computer-Mediated Communications, C. Malin et. al. (Academic Press, 2017)
    • Incendiary: The Psychiatrist, the Mad Bomber, and the Invention of Criminal Profiling, M. Cannell (Minotaur Books, 2017)
    • Mindhunter: Inside the FBI's Elite Serial Crime Unit, J. Douglas & M. Olshaker (1995)

    Primary Sources

    • Lone Offender Terrorism Report (2019)
    • A Study of Pre-Attack Behaviors of Active Shooters in the United States Between 2000 and 2013 (2018)
    • FBI Jack the Ripper Profile (1988)
    • Criminal Investigation: A Practical Handbook (1907 translation)
    • UK Parliamentary Debates (1888)

    *Wildcard Resource*

    • Mindhunter (2017-2019)
    • While not perfectly accurate, this TV show (heavily inspired by the book of the same name, listed above) is a truly excellent watch.
    The FBI Hostage Negotiator - with Chris Voss Oct 15, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    Chris Voss (X; LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the art of negotiation. Chris formerly served as the FBI lead international hostage negotiator.


    What You’ll Learn

    Intelligence

    • The very basics of negotiation, including the phrase “Never split the difference”
    • The art of Tactical Empathy
    • Case studies from Chris’ career, including the Dos Palmas kidnappings
    • Techniques in ethical interrogation

    Reflections

    • Pressure makes diamonds
    • Human nature & understanding “the other side”

    And much, much more …


    Quotes of the Week

    “Never take advice from somebody that you wouldn’t trade places with. Never take directions from somebody who hasn’t been where you’re going … I’m coachable, but I know who to be coached by.” – Chris Voss.

    Resources

    SURFACE SKIM

    *SpyCasts*

    • James Foley: Journalist, ISIS Hostage, Son with His Mother Diane Foley (2024)
    • A CIA Psychologist on the Minds of World Leaders, Pt. 1 with Dr. Ursula Wilder (2024)
    • A CIA Psychologist on the Minds of World Leaders, Pt. 2 with Dr. Ursula Wilder (2024)
    • The Counterintelligence Chief with FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler (2023)
    • The FBI Way - Counterintelligence Spy Chief Frank Figliuzzi (2021)

    DEEPER DIVE

    Books

    • American Mother, C. McCann and D. Foley (Etruscan Press, 2024)
    • The Siege, B. Macintyre (Crown, 2024)
    • Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It, C. Voss & T. Raz (Harper Business, 2016)

    Primary Sources

    • A Proclamation on U.S. Hostage and Wrongful Detainee Day (2024)
    • Executive Order on Bolstering Efforts to Bring Hostages and Wrongfully Detained United States Nationals Home (2022)
    • FBI Hostage Rescue Team Policy Guide (2019)
    • DOS Foreign Affairs Manual: Hostage Taking and Kidnappings (2018)
    • 5 Leaders of the Abu Sayyaf Group Indicted (2002)
    • Hostage Negotiation: A Matter of Life and Death (1983)
    • Current Status of the Hostage Crisis and the Implications of US Policy Options (1980)

    *Wildcard Resource*

    • Want to learn even more? Check out Chris’ MasterClass on the Art of Negotiation.
    • And while you’re there, tune in to MasterClass’ other intelligence and espionage-related courses featuring insights from John Douglas, Michael Morrell & more, and Condoleezza Rice.
    The U.S. House Intelligence Committee - with Ranking Member Congressman Jim Himes Oct 08, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    Jim Himes (Website; X) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the U.S. House Intelligence Committee. Jim has served as the U.S. representative for Connecticut’s 4th congressional district since 2009.


    What You’ll Learn

    Intelligence

    • The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence: Its role and operations
    • The importance of bipartisan collaboration
    • Transparency and accountability in intelligence
    • Congressman Himes' personal experiences during 9/11, its impact on his career in intelligence, and 9/11’s impact on intelligence at large

    Reflections

    • Public trust and earning confidence
    • Partnership and cooperation

    And much, much more …


    Quotes of the Week

    “I get asked all the time, ‘Oh my gosh, you see all the threats. Do you sleep at night?’ … Yes, I do see with particularly exquisite detail the threats against us. I also get to see the detail of the assets and the people that we deploy against those threats. And because I get to see with great detail the assets and the tools that we have to address those threats, yes, I do sleep at night. Not because they will ever be perfect, but because these are incredibly dedicated people, the technology is amazing, and it is commensurate with the threats out there.” -Jim Himes


    Resources

    SURFACE SKIM

    *SpyCasts*

    • Digital Innovation and the Next Frontier of Intelligence with Jennifer Ewbank (2024)
    • The Future of OSINT and the Intelligence Community with Jason Barrett (2024)
    • The Future of NATO with Leon Panetta and Expert Panel (2024)
    • CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta (2024)

    DEEPER DIVE

    Books

    • Sies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence, A. B. Zegart (Princeton University Press, 2022)
    • The Secret World: A History of Intelligence, C. Andrew (Yale University Press, 2019)
    • The First Congress: How James Madison, George Washington, and a Group of Extraordinary Men Invented the Government, F. M. Bordewich (Simon & Schuster, 2016)

    Primary Sources

    • House Intelligence Committee COVID-19 Report (2022)
    • Unclassified Summary of the Second Interim Report on the Origins of the COVID-19 Pandemic (2022)
    • House Intelligence Committee Report on Russian Active Measures (2018)
    • Snowden Report (2016)
    • The 9/11 Commission Report (2004)

    H. Res. 658 (1977)

    *Wildcard Resource*

    • One of Connecticut’s very first representatives was a gentleman named Roger Sherman. Sherman is unique not only for being one of Jim’s congressional predecessors but also because he is the only person to have signed all four great state papers of the United States.
    • These include: The Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, the Articles of Association, and the Constitution. As a bonus, he also signed the 1774 Petition to the King.
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