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    Soundside

    Soundside leads the Puget Sound conversation with smart questions, lively debates, and direct access to the region’s most influential voices. Timely, insightful, and unmistakably local, it’s where the Pacific Northwest comes to dig into the news.

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    The TikTok ban is delayed... again. What can we learn from the whiplash? Jan 22, 2025
    Show notes

    At this hour, TikTok is once again available to its millions of U.S. users – brought back to life, for at least 75 days, by the President who once tried to kill it.

    It’s been a long and confusing road to get here.
    Congress passed a law last April to force TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, to sell the social media app or face a ban in the U.S.. On Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously upheld that ban, which was set to go into effect on Sunday.
    TikTok then went dark on Saturday, when users were greeted with a message that read: “Sorry, TikTok isn’t available right now.”
    Shortly afterwards, a hopeful update appeared in that popup message:
    “We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office.”

    The app was back in service Sunday, after about 14 hours offline for U.S. users.

    President Trump sealed a reprieve for TikTok with the stroke of his Sharpie on Monday, signing an executive order delaying the enforcement of the federal ban for 75 days.

    It’s just another stop on the long road toward a potential all-out ban of the Chinese-owned app for U.S. users -- and the President’s latest actions raise a host of political, legal and cultural questions.

    Soundside was joined by a panel of experts to break down what's next.

    Guests:

    • Ben Brody, a technology reporter for Punchbowl News based in D.C.
    • Jessica Maddox, associate professor of digital media at the University of Alabama.
    • Joseph Tomain, senior lecturer at Indiana University Bloomington.

    Related Links:

    • TikTok Starts Working Again After Trump Says He Will Stall a Ban - The New York Times
    • KUOW - As Congress pushes potential TikTok ban forward, users wonder what happens next
    • Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban, threatening app’s existence in the U.S. : NPR

    Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/soundsidenotes

    Soundside is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    WA justices look at "historical tradition" for high capacity magazines in Gator Guns case Jan 22, 2025
    Show notes

    The state supreme court is right now weighing the future of high-capacity gun magazine sales in Washington. Last week, the court heard arguments in Washington v. Gator’s Custom Guns. At issue is whether a 2022 law banning magazines with more than 10 rounds is constitutional. Complicating the matter is a recent U.S. Supreme Court cases that sets out a new originalist rule for restrictions on guns.

    Guest:

    Jake Goldstein Street, reporter at the Washington State Standard

    Relevant Links:

    Washington State Standard: State and gun shop clash at WA Supreme Court over high-capacity magazine ban

    Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/soundsidenotes

    Soundside is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Washington Attorney General sues Trump Administration Jan 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Twenty-four hours after returning to office, the Trump administration is already facing its first lawsuit from Washington state.

    State Attorney General Nick Brown says he has filed a challenge to President Trump’s executive order ending birthright citizenship for the children of unauthorized immigrants.
    It was one of dozens of orders President Trump signed during his first day back in the big chair, ranging from renaming a mountain, to pulling the U.S. out of the Paris climate agreement.

    Guest:

    • KUOW politics reporter and Sound Politics co-host Scott Greenstone

    Relevant Links:

    • Washington state AG sues Trump administration over order to end birthright citizenship - KUOW
    • Trump to make historic move towards revoking birthright citizenship - KUOW
    • WA Proud Boy Ethan Nordean has 18-year sentence commuted by Trump - KUOW

    Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/soundsidenotes

    Soundside is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    What can you learn from dead birds? With enough volunteers, a lot Jan 17, 2025
    Show notes

    The University of Washington'sCoastal Observation and Seabird Survey Team, or COASST, is a network of nearly a thousand volunteers who walk beaches in Alaska, Washington, Oregon, and California. Those citizen scientists are counting dead birds and their work has been critical to understanding the effects of warming ocean waters on the marine ecosystem.

    Guests:

    Julia Parrish, Associate Dean at the University of Washington's College for the Environment and founder of COASST

    Carl Haynie, COASST volunteer

    Relevant Links:

    COASST Website

    Science: ‘Blob’ heat wave killed millions of seabirds—and they haven’t bounced back

    New York Times: Ocean Heat Wiped Out Half These Seabirds Around Alaska

    Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/soundsidenotes

    Soundside is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    'Roll On, Kalakala' celebrates the beginning, and end, of a Seattle icon Jan 17, 2025
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    This month marks 10 years since the Kalakala was removed from the shores of Tacoma and demolished.

    The ferry, which looked a little like if the Titanic was mixed with a spaceship, was once the symbol of Seattle - a shiny, chrome vision of the future.

    While the Kalakala is gone, it’s far from forgotten.

    There’s even a song that follows the journey of the Kalakala: from its creation to its eventual demise.

    And the story of the song itself is filled with twists and turns.

    We sat down with the people behind this song to hear why they’ve spent years dedicated to remembering the Kalakala

    Guests:

    • Jack Broom, former Seattle Times reporter
    • Jon Pontrello, Seattle musician

    Relevant Links:

    • Roll On Kalakala and Other Seaworthy Tunes Album Release Show - The Rabbit Box
    • Jon Pontrello - Roll On Kalakala (Lyrics by Jack Broom)
    • Roll On, Kalakala, Roll On - The Seattle Times

    Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/soundsidenotes

    Soundside is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Soundside's "Weekend Warmup" - Jan 17th-20th Jan 16, 2025
    Show notes

    As we prepare for the holiday weekend, some folks are heading out of town, while others are looking locally for ways to celebrate the life & legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr…

    Producers Jason Megatron Burrows & Brooklyn Jamerson-Flowers are here with an early look at what's happening this weekend!

    LINKS:

    • Monster Jam - Tacoma Dome - Tacoma, Fri-Sun
    • Seattle Sister Cities Soup Sampling - Capitol Hill, Saturday

    • The Aluminum Show - Olympia, Sunday

    • NAAM | Annual Martin Luther King Day Celebration 2024

    • Seattle MLK, Jr. Coalition MLK Day 2025

    • Painting the Town Red: A MLK Day Tribute to Billie Holiday at The Royal Room

    Other events we couldn't get to:

    • MLK Celebration: With Liberty & Justice, For Whom? - Bainbridge Island Museum of Art - Bainbridge Island, Sunday

    • Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Celebration - Washington State Historical Society

    • Celebrating Dr. King’s Legacy | United Way of King County

    • An Evening Honoring Dr. King’s Legacy - Olympia, Friday

    Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/soundsidenotes

    Soundside is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Pacific Drive captures the creepy of the Olympic Peninsula Jan 16, 2025
    Show notes

    The game “Pacific Drive” came out last year from Seattle-based Ironwood Studios, and it made a BIG splash for the company.

    So much so that Hollywood is taking notice: “Saw” creator James Wan’s production company announced last month it has optioned Pacific Drive to develop it into a television series.

    The Pacific Northwest is home to some major power players in the videogame industry. But this is a big win for an indie game studio.

    The game pays homage to the our region, with a setting that feels familiar: the Olympic Peninsula, in 1998. Albeit an alternate timeline, extra creepy version of the peninsula.

    We wanted to learn more about the role of the Pacific Northwest in the game’s creation, and what success means for this local independent company.

    GUEST: Cassandra Dracott - CEO & Creative Director of Ironwood Studios, the team behind the game Pacific Drive.

    Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/soundsidenotes

    Soundside is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network.

    RELATED LINKS:

    • Pacific Drive

    • ‘Pacific Drive’ TV Series Based on Indie Survival Game in the Works From James Wan - Variety

    • ‘Pacific Drive’ takes players on supernatural adventure in the Pacific Northwest - OPB

    • The Pacific Northwest in video games: It’s always weird | Polygon

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    The California wildfire insurance crisis Jan 15, 2025
    Show notes

    For over a week now, Los Angeles has been devastated by aggressive wildfire that are expected to be the most costly in California’s history.

    While many have already seen their communities burned, we won’t know the full extent of the damage for weeks.

    Already, thousands of families are wondering how they are going to recover and rebuild.

    Central to that question is how much of the costs insurance will cover.

    And it comes as California is going through a home and renter’s insurance crisis.

    Guest Levi Sumagaysay has been covering California’s economy and its insurance market for CalMatters breaks down the crisis and some potential solutions.

    Guest:

    Levi Sumagaysay, CalMatter Economy Reporter

    Relevant Links:

    LA fires could worsen California’s stressed insurance market

    Can California fix its home insurance market? - CalMatters

    California fire insurance: FAIR Plan going through growing pains - CalMatters

    Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/soundsidenotes

    Soundside is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    New podcast explores why healthcare can cost "An Arm and a Leg" Jan 15, 2025
    Show notes

    It’s as American as Apple Pie:

    You come home from the hospital - maybe it was an accidental slice with your kitchen knife, or maybe something more serious. And as you recover… you wait. For thousands of dollars in medical bills.

    It’s a problem that radio reporter Dan Weissman had long been familiar with, due to a pre-existing condition.

    Learning how to navigate the arcane system behind those bills has become a full time gig for Weissman. He’s the host of An Arm and a Leg, a podcast exploring why healthcare costs so damn much.

    The show has been running since 2018, and starting this Thursday we’re very excited to welcome it to the KUOW family of podcasts.

    Guest:

    • Dan Weissman, host of An Arm and A Leg

    Relevant Links:

    • An Arm and a Leg website

    Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/soundsidenotes

    Soundside is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Can a river have rights? Everett is finding out Jan 15, 2025
    Show notes

    This past election, voters in Everett approved an initiative (24-03) that granted the Snohomish Riverwatershed legally enforceable "rights."

    24-03 is part of a broader legal trend called the “rights of nature" movement, an environmental legal theory gaining traction around the world in places like Ecuador, India, and Australia.

    Here in the United States, communities in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida have tried giving some bodies of water these extended legal designations -- like the right to exist, right to flow, and right to regenerate and flourish -- which proponents say add a layer of protections not covered by regulations. 24-03 passed with 57 percent of the vote.

    The success of these efforts, however, has been watered down and challenged by courts and legislatures over issues of jurisdiction and scope -- issues voiced by skeptics of the initiative this past election.

    Soundside visited Everett to talk with proponents and opponents about what these new rights could mean for the Snohomish River now that they've been approved by voters. Additionally, Soundside spoke with a global expert in river rights and policy about how this legal theory works, and where Everett's initiative fits within the broader global movement for environmental personhood.

    Guests:

    • Holly James and Abi Ludwig, Standing for Washington, a political action committee advocating for the legal rights of nature in Washington.
    • David Toyer, Toyer Strategic Advisors, a land use and economic development consulting firm in Everett.
    • Dr. Erin O'Donnell, a world-renowned expert in water policy and law. She’s a Senior Lecturer and ARC Research Fellow at the University of Melbourne Law School in Australia.

    Related links:

    • City in Washington Votes to Grant Local River Legally Enforceable Right to Exist
    • Initiative Text - Snohomish River Watershed Now Has Legal Rights

    Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/soundsidenotes

    Soundside is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


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