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Sound Plus Doctrine

Sound Plus Doctrine, hosted by Bob Kauflin and David Zimmer, is the podcast of Sovereign Grace Music, designed for those who plan, lead, or participate in their church’s Sunday gatherings. Bob has been a pastor for over three decades and leads Sovereign Grace Music. He’s well-known as a worship leader, songwriter, speaker, and author. David, his good friend, is an experienced drummer, vocalist, teacher, and songwriter. Both are now part of Sovereign Grace Church in Louisville, KY, and they’d love for you to join them each week for an engaging, Christ-centered conversation about music and the church.

Latest Episodes:

Should I Show My Emotions When I Lead? Mar 24, 2025

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Are you afraid you’ll be too emotional when you lead? What if you don’t feel anything? What is the place of emotions when leading congregational worship? A listener wrote in to ask about how much self-control leaders should exercise when it comes to expressing their emotions while leading. How do we avoid being manipulative? How do we make sure we’re affected by the right thigns? We attempt to answer these questions and more in this episode of Sound Plus Doctrine.

Have a question about this episode? Send us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com

Fearfully and Wonderfully Made: An Interview with McKenzie Fuller Mar 17, 2025

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Those who know Sovereign Grace Music, recognize the voice, if not the face, of McKenzie Fuller, Bob’s youngest daughter. In this episode, Bob & David talk with McKenzie about a dark season in her life characterized by depression, eating disorders, and self-destructive behavior, and how the Lord has redeemed it for her good and his glory.

If you or someone you know struggles with depression, eating disorders, or self-destructive behavior, we encourage you to talk to your parents, pastor, or a trusted friend. We’ve listed other helpful resources below.

Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy by Mark Vroegop
Depression: Looking Up from a Stubborn Darkness by Ed Welch
Resources on Eating Disorders
Resources on Self-Harm

Have a question about this episode? Send us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com

How Do You Handle Multiple Worship Leaders? Mar 10, 2025

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More than a few churches have different people leading the singing on different Sundays. If not handled wisely, that can make it difficult for a congregation to learn songs or grow in a unified voice. In this episode, Bob and David talk about specific ways those situations can be avoided and multiple leaders can be used to strengthen the church.

Have a question about this episode? Send us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com

How Do You Audition Members For Your Team? Mar 03, 2025

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One Sound Plus Doctrine listener wrote in to ask how we handle adding new members to the music team. In this episode, David and Bob talk about how we interview potential musicians at Sovereign Grace Church of Louisville and highlight principles you can put into practice in your church.

Have a question about this episode? Send us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com

Reflections on the Tenth Anniversary of Prepare Him Room Dec 16, 2024

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It’s been ten years since the release of our Christmas album, Prepare Him Room. In this episode, Bob and David take time to look at the history of the album and the story behind some of the songs, including He Who is Mighty and Who Would Have Dreamed. We also talk about why we changed the lyrics on some of the Christmas “classics.” But most of all, we recorded this episode hoping it would help you freshly appreciate the amazing good news we celebrate at Christmas, that the Son of God took on our flesh to redeem us from our sins and reconcile us to the Father.

Have a question about this episode? Send us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com

Unpacking the Excuses Musicians Give Dec 09, 2024

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Musicians are sometimes stereotyped as scattered, overly sensitive, lazy, emotionally driven, and more. Unfortunately, those stereotypes often have their roots in reality! Worse, we musicians can tend to use morally neutral words to justify our behavior, thinking that it just goes along with being an artist. In this episode, Bob and David pull the curtain back on what might lie behind some of our tendencies and excuses and offer biblically rooted hope for change. This one would be great to listen to with your whole band!

Have a question about this episode? Send us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com

Help! My Church’s Song Diet Needs to Change! Dec 02, 2024

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Through the years we’ve had quite a few people ask how you go about getting your church to sing songs that are more biblically faithful and theologically rich. Of course, a lot depends on what kind of role you play in your congregation. In this episode of Sound Plus Doctrine we explore some of the options.

Music Through the Eyes of Faith – Harold Best

Have a question about this episode? Send us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com

What’s the Connection Between Worship and Mission? Nov 25, 2024

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We tend to associate worship with our church singing together on Sunday mornings. But what if we viewed it from a bigger, more biblical perspective as seeking to live our lives in a way that drew attention to the worth, authority, and beauty of God’s glory in Christ? How might that affect the way we think about worship in our homes, workplaces, schools, and neighborhoods? That’s the topic David, Bob, and Devon Kauflin tackle on this episode of Sound Plus Doctrine.

Let the Nations Be Glad – John Piper

Unceasing Worship – Harold Best

Have a question about this episode? Send us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com

How Do I Know if I Should Be Writing Songs? Nov 18, 2024

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God seems to be blessing the church with an increasing number of songs for churches to sing. How do you know if you or your church should contribute to the thousands of songs already being written? What kinds of songs should you be writing? What processes can you put in place to insure you’re writing the best songs? Is there value in writing songs that no one ever hears? Bob, David, and Devon explore these questions and more in this episode of Sound Plus Doctrine.

Have a question about this episode? Send us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com

Where Do Sovereign Grace Songs Come From? Nov 11, 2024

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In God’s kindness, Sovereign Grace Music has been producing songs for the church for 40 years now. People have often asked us where those songs come from. In this episode, Bob, David, and Devon do a deep dive into the people, purpose, and processes behind the songs we write.

Resources: https://sovereigngracemusic.com/training/resources/how-we-write-sovereign-grace-songs-wg24/

Have a question about this episode? Send us an email at soundplusdoctrine@sovereigngrace.com

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