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    Sound Affects Podcast: Music & Mental Health, with Katy Georgiou

    Music and Mental Health podcast, with Katy Georgiou. As featured in NME’s Podcast of the People series and Therapy Today

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    Latest Episodes:
    Episode 12: Marriage and Music, with The Kondoors Feb 01, 2020
    Show notes

    When Jess Greenfield got a call to say she was joining Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds, she was obviously delighted. She was also pregnant in a long-term relationship (now husband) with Gav Condor. Faced with the choice of motherhood or a successful career, Jess was confronted with a painful dilemma that many women find themselves in in their 30s. In a male-heavy music industry climate, this dilemma is magnified where the support structures for women to have children and maintain careers as touring musicians are not adequately in place. Jess and Gav explore what choice they eventually made, and the impact of it on their marriage and individual self-esteem. They also speak candidly about their relationship as the musical duo The Kondoors – the ups and downs they’ve faced and how their romantic, marital journey gets mapped onto that.

    Disclaimer: I do not own any music used in this podcast. It is used for discussion purposes under fair use law.

    Support and advice provided below.

    Music – The Kondoors, 'Forgiveness'

    The Kondoors

    https://www.thekondoors.com/about

    https://twitter.com/thekondoors?lang=en

    Jess Greenfield on Twitter and Instagram

    https://twitter.com/greenfieldsings?lang=en

    https://www.instagram.com/greenfieldsings/?hl=en

    Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds: https://www.noelgallagher.com/

    For support and advice, see below:

    Help Musicians UK: https://www.helpmusicians.org.uk/

    The Music Industry Therapists and Coaches (Formerly the Music Industry Therapist Collective): http://musicindustrytherapists.com/

    Tavistock Relationship counselling: https://www.tavistockrelationships.org/

    Abortion support and advice for men and women:

    https://www.bpas.org/abortion-care/supporting-someone-having-an-abortion/

    https://www.bpas.org/abortion-care/supporting-someone-having-an-abortion/partners/


    Episode 11: Addiction, with Mark from Skunk Anansie Dec 29, 2019
    Show notes

    Drummer Mark Richardson joined Skunk Anansie in 1995, re-uniting with the band in 2009 after a long stint in Feeder 2001-2009. He talks about his addiction struggles that led him to co-found the charity Music Support for anyone in industry experiencing emotional difficulties. We also discuss his experiences in Little Angels, Feeder and joining Skunk Anansie; race and gender; the generational trauma that led to his drug addiction; male identity, suicide and colleagues who took their own lives.

    Disclaimer: I do not own any music used in this podcast. It is used for discussion purposes under fair use law.

    Music Support: https://www.musicsupport.org/what-we-do

    Skunk Anansie: https://skunkanansie.com/

    Follow Sound Affects on Twitter and Facebook:

    @soundaffectspod

    Follow Sound Affects on Instagram:

    sound_affects_podcast

    Subscribe to Sound Affects on Apple Podcasts and Spotify:

    https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/sound-affects-music-mental-health/id1331897982

    https://open.spotify.com/show/2mOGoi0QeHiwwRoJuetOkC

    As ever, please leave a review on Apple Podcast, comment here, join me over on social media, or email soundaffectspodcast@gmail.com


    Episode 10: Melon twisting with Bez from Happy Mondays Nov 14, 2019
    Show notes

    What is the definition of 'sane'? Bez would like to know.

    I interviewed Bez in Manchester this month amidst Happy Mondays' UK reunion tour.

    You can still get your tickets here:

    https://www.seetickets.com/tour/happy-mondays

    Please be aware, this is not an interview with an academic or professional so please don't expect that. It's an interview with Bez who has his own point of views about mental health. These are his views and you may or may not agree with them. I'm really fascinated by the way he thinks and this is an opportunity to understand how his mind works.

    In this episode, we talk about: fatherhood, his childhood, what it was like for him being homeless and in prison, his relationship to drugs, the time he nearly died of MRSA, his thoughts about what it means to be sane, as well as how he feels about what people think of him. It's an alternative point of view and I was really curious to understand where he gets his views from.

    Please excuse the sound quality, I was recording in a cafe, the sound isn't perfect as there's a lot of background noise. I hope you enjoy this episode.

    Brace yourselves...


    Episode 9: Life Through Music, with James of Oasis Podcast Oct 26, 2019
    Show notes

    James of Oasis Pod talks to me through his life story through music


    Episode 8: Grief and Depression, with Pilgrims Oct 25, 2019
    Show notes

    I speak to Kat and Rob from Fife band Pilgrims – after spending years feeling disillusioned with their music careers, the Scottish duo joined forces and found meaning in their work again by campaigning for their love of animals through song. In this candid interview, they share their histories with depression, loss and grief, and the power in music to heal and tell important stories.

    WARNING: This episode explores topics of grief and suicidal feelings – please use links below for support

    Follow Kat, Rob and Pilgrims on Facebook and Twitter:

    https://twitter.com/Pilgrims_UK

    https://www.facebook.com/pilgrimsUK/

    Find their albums on:

    Wilderness: https://pilgrimsuk.bandcamp.com/album/wilderness

    Tundra: https://pilgrimsuk.bandcamp.com/album/tundra

    Helplines, Counselling and Support

    For grief, bereavement and loss:
    Cruse: https://www.cruse.org.uk/get-help/local-services

    For depression or suicidal feelings:
    Samaritans: 116 123 or https://www.samaritans.org/

    Papyrus: https://papyrus-uk.org/

    Maytree: https://www.maytree.org.uk/

    CALM: https://www.thecalmzone.net/

    Other useful helplines and avenues of support:

    Time to Change: https://www.time-to-change.org.uk/

    Mind: https://www.mind.org.uk/

    Specific support for musicians:

    Help Musicians: https://www.helpmusicians.org.uk/

    Bapam: https://www.bapam.org.uk/

    Music Support https://www.musicsupport.org/what-we-do

    To find a therapist visit:

    BACP: https://www.bacp.co.uk/search/Therapists

    UKCP: https://www.psychotherapy.org.uk/find-a-therapist/

    NHS Counselling: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/stress-anxiety-depression/free-therapy-or-counselling/


    Episode 7: Trauma, with Adam Ficek of Babyshambles Aug 21, 2019
    Show notes

    In the early 2000s – post-Britpop – an influx of indie bands emerged, beginning with New York based The Strokes. This paved the way for the Hives, The Vines, The Soundtrack of our Lives, and then a host of British bands – the most popular of all of them, The Libertines, as fronted by Pete Doherty and Carl Barat.

    Around 2003/4, following Pete and Carl's falling out in relation to drug abuse, Pete formed side project Babyshambles, which took off in its own right. After a turbulent start with drummer Gemma leaving the band, Adam Ficek – previously a musician in the band The White Sport – was brought on board as Babyshambles' drummer.

    My overriding memory of these early 2000s years was the extent to which drug use and litigious activity by rock stars were getting equal prominence in the press (if not more) as the music itself. While Britpop spread a message of invincibility, togetherness and youth, there seemed to be darker, sinister undertones connected to the drug culture around the 2000s bands which, for me, started to become synonymous with that time and which led to a noticeable isolation, separation and exclusivity within the indie music scene, spilling out into the behaviour and attitudes of the public fan base. I observed this shift acutely while at university when I was working a part-time job in a ticket box office of an indie club in my late teens. I really wondered about this phenomenon and welcomed the opportunity to speak to Adam Ficek of Babyshambles who was in his musical ascendancy around this time.
    On speaking to Adam, I became fascinated by his trajectory into the psychotherapeutic world after experiences with Babyshambles. I was keen to hear about his own understanding of how his turbulent upbringing led to deep emotional wounds that got re-triggered within the rock music industry climate of the time. We talk about that upbringing, his lifestyle on the road within Babyshambles, his exit from the band and subsequent healing process that led him to a new music journey and academic career in music psychology and psychotherapeutic practice. We also explore Adam's interest in the way sound production affects us emotionally.

    Helplines and support listed below (hover over text for hyperlinks).

    Follow Sound Affects Podcast:
    Twitter: @soundaffectspod
    Facebook: @soundaffectspod
    Instagram: sound_affects_podcast

    Contact Sound Affects Podcast:
    soundaffectspodcast@gmail.com

    Subscribe to Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/sound-affects-music-mental-health/id1331897982

    Download on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2mOGoi0QeHiwwRoJuetOkC?si=2sXZzkl8R1yu86EG4yM5Yw

    Episode breakdown:

    Intro
    0.00–0.20 Babyshambles, 'Killamanjaro' Live at S.E.C.C.
    0.20–0.38 Adam Ficek, 'Sun'
    0.38–1.40 Intro to Adam
    1.40–1.02.25 Interview with Adam Ficek
    52.35 Adam Ficek, 'Interlude'
    1.02.24–1.03.43 Adam Ficek, 'Sun'
    1.03.43–1.06.58 Signposting, helpline support and guidance for getting therapy
    1.06.58 Listener feedback from David Walker and news
    1.07.38 Outro
    1.07.41 Babyshambles, Killamanjaro Live at S.E.C.C.
    Contact Adam:
    Adam Ficek: @adamficek, @musicandminduk, @amusiciansmind, www.musicandmind.co.uk

    Support, helplines and guidance mentioned in this episode:
    Helplines and charity support: Samaritans, CALM, Music Minds Matter, Help Musicians UK, Mind, Cruse

    Accessing therapy: IAPT, Mind, or visit GP

    Private therapy directories: Counselling Directory, BACP, UCKP, Welldoing

    Additional support:
    1 North East, Music Support, Help for drug addiction


    Episode 6: Managing rockstars, with Alan McGee Aug 04, 2019
    Show notes

    Music industry exec Alan McGee has witnessed the moving tide of the music industry over the last 30 years. Given that he's worked with some of the most notorious rock stars in history – including Bobby Gillespie, Liam Gallagher, Pete Doherty and Shaun Ryder – I was curious to know what cumulative mental health impact this has all had on him over time. His stories of drugs and excess are often passed with humour and anecdotal charm, but dig deeper, and I'm in touch with a haunting tale beneath – a world of self-harm, heroine, overdoses and childhood abuse.
    I wanted to pause with Alan for a moment to reflect on some of these specific moments in time, from his own unique perspective. There’s a clear sense of humour in his narration, and you’ll catch glimpses of Alan’s life and charm as people weave in and out of this interview to say hello to him at different moments. You get a sense of his warmth and amenability, wisdom and compassion.
    There are times when the interview really makes me laugh – it's a beautiful, sunny day, a wasp nearly stings my face, bands are rehearsing all around us, and Alan extols the virtues of his new healthy diet of fish and veg. It makes for a chaotic backdrop, which I love for its quirkiness and melancholy rolled into one. I’ve left in some of these glitches and blips to add to the sentiment behind this episode: that sometimes, the crossover between glam and grim is a really fine line.
    (0–2.47) Intro
    (0.01–0.56) Primal Scream, Higher Than The Sun
    (2.47) Biff Bang Pow, She Haunts
    (2.47–38.05) Interview with Alan McGee
    (38.05) Biff Bang Pow, She Haunts

    Support, helplines and therapy

    One North East London – specialist counselling, advice and workshops for friends and family of those affected by addiction, as well as for those suffering addiction of any kind themselves.

    Music Minds Matter – Helpline for musicians looking for support

    Samaritans – Anonymous, free, emotional support helpline for anybody feeling suicidal or struggling to cope

    CALM – Support and advice for men struggling with their mental health or suicidal feelings

    Adfam – A list of helpful organisations dealing with issues around family, drugs and alcohol

    Frank – For local drug treatment services

    To access free counselling via the NHS, follow these links

    Click here or here to find private therapy from insured, registered bonafide therapists

    For urgent help, visit https://www.mind.org.uk/


    Episode 5: Music and Blindness, with Paul Costello of Primitive Machine Jun 09, 2019
    Show notes

    In this episode, drummer Paul Costello of Primitive Machine explains what it's like to be a blind musician and we discuss the added dynamic of being in a relationship with a fellow band member (in Paul's case, with the band's lead singer/songwriter Tracy).
    Primitive Machine: http://www.primitivemachine.ie/
    Twitter: @PrimMachine

    Songs in order:
    Primitive Machine, 'BoogeyMan'
    Primitive Machine, 'Primitive Machine'
    Nine Inch Nails, 'Head Like a Hole'
    Primitive Machine, 'Primal'
    Primitive Machine, 'FreeFall'
    Interview with Paul Costello begins at 0.44 and ends at 54.50
    NB, my appearance on Alan McGee's Boogaloo Radio about mental health in the rock n roll industry as mentioned at the end of this episode can be found here (interview begins 58 mins):
    https://www.mixcloud.com/BoogalooRadio/riots-raves-and-running-a-label-katy-georgiou-special-guest-19112018/

    Follow Sound Affects:
    Twitter: @SoundAffectsPod
    Facebook: @SoundAffectsPod
    Instagram: sound_affects_podcast
    Or email soundaffectspodcast@gmail.com


    Episode 4: The Music Industry Therapist Collective, with therapist John Bassett May 09, 2019
    Show notes

    In this episode, I speak to psychotherapist John Bassett from MITC (Music Industry Therapist Collective). All therapists in MITC began with fruitful careers within the music industry before retraining in therapy. They worked for record labels, in artist and tour management, A&R, or, as in the case of John, as sales and marketing reps for labels and music companies. They have first-hand, lived experience of the environment, and are now using that knowledge to educate, offer support and guidance, and cross-refer anyone in need of help.

    John and I explore the endemic culture within the industry perpetuating conditions for poor mental health, what music industry life was like in the 90s when he was involved, how songs of the time still trigger John physically, the impact of the industry on men compared to women and much more.

    Important websites and contact details:

    MITC: http://musicindustrytherapists.com/what-we-do/

    @MITCollective

    CALM: https://www.thecalmzone.net/
    Samaritans:https://www.samaritans.org/
    Mind: https://www.mind.org.uk/
    Help Musicians UK: https://www.helpmusicians.org.uk/
    Music Minds Matter: https://www.musicmindsmatter.org.uk/

    Music Support: https://www.musicsupport.org/about-us
    BAPAM: https://www.bapam.org.uk/

    Follow Sound Affects:
    Twitter @soundaffectspod
    Facebook: @soundaffectspod
    Insta: soundaffectspodcast
    Email Sound Affects:
    soundaffectspodcast@gmail.com


    Episode 3: Music & Psychosis – the life of a music therapist inside an acute in-patient psychiatric ward Mar 13, 2018
    Show notes

    In this epsiode, I visit an acute adult in-patient psychiatric hospital in London to talk to a music therapist Phil Clarke about how music therapy works for people experiencing psychosis. We also discuss Phil's background as a drummer to former rock band The Lipstick Melodies/Tourniquet which disbanded under tragic circumstances following the death of the lead singer, leaving a profound impact on Phil and his bandmates. We talk through Phil Clarke's own personal journey from musician to therapist.


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